Ever have a lady ask you why you’re paying for sex?
I’ve been asked this same question by a few providers I’ve seen. It’s always been, “Why is a guy like you paying for sex”? “You can get laid for free, why are you hobbying”?
I’m the first guy to admit, I’m no George Clooney, but I know I’m not repulsive or ugly. Also if it matters to you, I'm not over weight. I consider myself an average looking guy. I’m very clean and practice excellent hygiene.
I remember one particular provider told me, “It’s so nice to actually fuck a good looking guy” I took it as a compliment obviously, but didn’t read too much into it. Anyways……
These are my reasons for hobbying: 1) It’s fun 2) The variety 3) The simplicity 4) The fantasy 5) For the most part, you get to “Cherry pick” who you want to have sex with 6) There’s no emotional attachment 7) I don’t feel like putting in the time to meet civie girls 8) It’s easy and most of the time, you get what you want
Yes…I’m using an alias because I feel like a douche posting this LOL
Once you see who you are being compared to, you will just accept the compliment and go about your business. I will put it this way, the bar has been set very, very low. lmao
As for your reasons for hobbying, I couldn't agree with you more, as for feeling like a douche, this is so far down on the list of "douche posting" it doesnt' even make the top ten thousand. lol
As a person that assists in hosting the M&G's, you have to remember, it is an extremely small percentage of hobbyists that attend these functions. Like an EXTREMELY small percentage. Almost none of my regular clients are there. The M&G's are not a fair representation of what the average hobbyist is like, at least in my circle. The parties are there so people can socialize openly.
I don't know "douche posting" from what my buddy good gambler here says about M&G. but here's the thing. i'm handsome and walk around with puke on my shirt and my chest puffed out. but it's 'caus of the smirnoff, get it? so everybody can stfu. 'cause now you know. lmfao. fuck. i get laid lying next to the toilet in any bar in this fucking country. problem is, i can't get off the couch. so i'm a couch pimp. mean and low, but cool with a purple hat only i can see. hookers ain't providers, see. wtf? i get told all the time to get laid somewhere else. eo-fuckin-m. don't take me on.
pretty a- fucking-noying isn't it, especially when you don't know the guy and he just randomly attacks shit. and when you actually want to hear what other people have to say. i'll stop now, i promise.
Retarding posting is unfortunately allowed. Threats are not and DD was dangerously close to crossing that line, but he only bent the rules and didn't actually break any, unlike retard number one. lol
And in all actuality, I'm surprised the esteemed Miss FFP, doesn't let me give a tutourial to show how NOT to post and interact with the more timid of the poor souls that inhabit this fine establishment...!
Let me use this as an example....lol!!!!
Got a new account last week. It's a place where reformed alcoholics and drug abusers meet to talk each other down. My brain-doaner managers send me in there to do what we do.
Now, I'm in there for business, right?
Dozens of people. Trying to get away from their demons. And here I come....!
I scanned the room. A few ladies that look cute. From the midriff up cuz they were sitting at tables and didn't have the chance to give them Mikey's butt-meter.
I'm happy you guys found each other, and hope you continue the mutual admiration, cyber bully thing you got going. It clearly gives you your sense of purpose. But you can quit stalking me on pm now. Ok? It's too weird.
Believe me, I know, and l have read and heard of some of the stories of the guys. I think most ladies would agree, just show up clean and smelling good, and she'll meet your expectations if not more.
My head isn't swelling, don't worry, I'm a humble guy LOL.
I'm aware of the bar being set low, so when a provider compliments me, I don't really consider it that big of a compliment LOL. That being said, it still is appreciated and is nice to hear.
As for me feeling like a douche, I only feel that way because I don't want people to think I'm making myself out as a prize.
FWIW I occasionally get the same type of compliment, I used to think it was just part of the "illusion" that some providers create, but then I met a few dozen of my "peer group" and realized that in comparison I was a "catch" lol Full disclosure here, I am a rather ordinary looking guy, and over fifty, but like you, I still like to hear it. lol
and I find that very unprofessional, a true pro would never ask. She should know why you are paying to fuck her. She should have confidence in her skills and abilities to please her clients to know why she is getting paid. Yes you should feel that from her.
You wouldn't ask a hooker: Why are you fucking me for money, when I could fuck you for free? It's the same amount of fun to me.
I'm using an alias because your are a douche bag. You are what you feel LOFL. fucking>
Why do you care? I show up clean, smell good, I'm on time and I have the donation you asked for.
Would you rather have me not pay you? Or take my business else where? If I was a provider, I would be flattered that my pussy is generating income for me. You couldn't pay me enough to fuck some pussies out there.
No provider said this to you and if one actually did? She was gassing your ass up.
You guys have no idea how how some of the guys we see are. I am floored (and sometimes intimidated!) by at least several times a month when I go through cycles of meeting lots of new clients.
Fit, personable, nice-dressers, good-smelling, hypersexed, fresh, happy, capable with women...you name it we see it on the regular.
Just because M&Gs are full of old heads and fatboys who don't care who sees them or knows their habits doesn't mean those scenes are representative of every client out there. I would go so far as to say that M&Gs and boards are not representative of the real face of the hobby at all.
Sometimes girls just talk in session...just to talk. Take the things that they say, especially in regards to other clients, with a grain of salt.
Like I said, I don't value compliments from providers. If you think about it, I'm basically paying them to say those kind words.
But here's where I know she was sincere in saying that......
She let me stay past the hour with her to hang out. She told me her real name and showed me her name on a social networking website (I think we know which one I'm talking about). And she invited me to go out with her friends later that night. We made it clear, that any activities wouldn't require a donation if I agreed to hang out with her.
I politely turned them down, because I have plenty of friends and people I know in the civie world. She was a cool girl and we had a lot in common, but I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to bang hot pussy!
No hard feelings (Quiet Storm) but don't question my post please. Thanks
Some of the much older, tired ladies jaded by years of disappointment and a I've seen it all attitudes think they have earned the right to speak for the whole. They unfortunately see and treat the business very differently from their younger competition.
You don't know me or how I treat my business. I guarantee if you did you wouldn't have tried to slight me because your feelings get hurt by providers who are real. We do speak in generalities on message boards and no I don't expect that my thoughts speak for anyone else.
But even ugly fat guys can get laid for free if they hang around enough bars and lower their standards enough...
We pay for the reasons you mentioned and others. Providers feed you BS lines like "you can get laid for free" because they think you will be flattered and keep booking with them. Until one of them actually fucks you for free it's just a line of...
I'm well aware of all the BS lines providers say and use.
I'm not like some of these guys in the hobby, I WON'T and I WOULD never fall for a provider. Nor would I spend any emotional feelings towards them. That being said, I am a true gentleman and I always treat them like ladies and with the upmost respect. After all, I really do appreciate providers and what they do.
Plain and simple, I just want to get my dick sucked, fuck them and then leave them. That's all I'm here to do.
Providers feed you BS lines like "you can get laid for free" because they think you will be flattered and keep booking with them. Until one of them actually fucks you for free it's just a line of...
I second that. When it was said to me(and it's only been said once)I took it with a grain of salt. The only reason I might possibly believe it was true, is because I know I can bag hot chicks for free.
to having become an old, run down codger curmudgeon.
My SOs and dates have tended to be beautiful, intelligent, accomplished, intellectual, artistic and somewhat edgy.
I find that with rare exceptions my opportunities for civy relationships tend to be as out of shape and physically unappealing as I have become and not so intelligent, intellectual, etc. As for edge.... the ladies who are attracted to me these days aren't. Their edge would be blunted by warm butter.
So sexually it is a turn off.
Yet I discover that as grotesque and decrepit as I am, I can resist having to adjust to reality, and for the mere exchange of an envelope can enjoy the companionship of women that I might have enjoyed before I began my inevitable downward spiral into decay, disease, and inevitably DEATH!
Claudius speaks for me as well, if more dramatically than I would.
Posted By: Claudius42310
to having become an old, run down codger curmudgeon.
My SOs and dates have tended to be beautiful, intelligent, accomplished, intellectual, artistic and somewhat edgy.
I find that with rare exceptions my opportunities for civy relationships tend to be as out of shape and physically unappealing as I have become and not so intelligent, intellectual, etc. As for edge.... the ladies who are attracted to me these days aren't. Their edge would be blunted by warm butter.
So sexually it is a turn off.
Yet I discover that as grotesque and decrepit as I am, I can resist having to adjust to reality, and for the mere exchange of an envelope can enjoy the companionship of women that I might have enjoyed before I began my inevitable downward spiral into decay, disease, and inevitably DEATH!
whenever i feel like shooting myself, i have a little ritual... i do not now and never have owned a gun, so shooting myself is not an option even should i ever feel like it, which, BTW i never do.
anyway the ritual: i put some music on... take a nice long hot bath with the Verdi Requiem or maybe Mozart's Don Giovanni if i have more time. but somehow by the time i get to the Tuba Mirum of the Requiem or the next to last scene of Don Giovanni (the one where he is dragged off to hell, LOL!) i am always in good enough mood to call one of the lovely ladies who are intelligent and discerning enough to know that my "drama" doesn't mean so much, except as wicked black humor.
then i am able to enjoy a delightful time.
if you feel like shooting yourself, please go get some
I for one hardly even ask what you do for a living ...much less a coldhearted question of why you pay for pussy ...im sorry in my eyes she is just a fucking bitch and if i was a you I would never return....when ur with me i try to take you in to another world not YOUR normal realm .... to take the stress of your everyday life away !!!!! ...this is just fucked up to me......
Dear Lisa: As a provider you would not ask the question but as a woman for some hobbyist that would come to see you as you got to know them I am wondering would you subconsciously think about the why? Also for those that come to see you more frequently than they should I am also wondering how many times would you begin to wonder quietly? Also would that be a tell tale sign in addition to the frequency of visits that would really begin to make you wonder as well? Not that you are going to admit it but if I was at a provider only function, I would really like to be a fly on the wall if and when that subject comes up.
OK, first post on boards. Reading this thread I got to the comment about "unless you've been given it for free..." and decided I wanted to chime in. I too have had the smoke blown up my butt when providers have made the "why are you paying for it?" comment. But, I have also had the rare pleasure of having a highly rated provider actually invite me back for non-call sex. At first I thought she was basically making a second appointment on her own, but after the evening was finished she really didn't want $. To be honest it freaked me out because now I was wondering if she was looking for some kind of emotional relationship I wasn't truly up for. So, I guess I'm agreeing with the others who stated most of us are in the hobby to have incredible sex with beautiful women who make you feel like you're more special than you really are. But, it really shouldn't ever go beyond that on either side of the provider/client line.
i have had similar experiences - i actually posted my own first post on this board a few months ago about something quite similar to this but not so much the "why are you doing this" thought that was implicit in the fact that i'm single and in nutshell don't have to.
but i agree with the subject - the statement really only has merit if in fact outside of just being objectively better looking than average and/or better mannered/nicer, the person who says would truly consider you as a potential date or partner outside of the circumstance.
its probably too hard to judge for the most part because most providers are conditioned and restrain from crossing the line. but we're all human, and lines do get crossed. it still doesnt necessarily mean youre objectively better than all the other guys who are doing this for their variety of reasons, simply that to someone you are subjectively appealing. connecting with someone is the same regardless of circumstance. the circumstance messes with expectations, as the poster above pointed out, but i hinder to say you're gonna know when someone, provider or otherwise, thinks you're all that and a bag of chips.
its happened to me more than once, and i dont do this all that much, and though i'm super comfortable with myself, i'm by no means [insert conventional pop-culture attractive male figure]. and after one such mutual connection, ensuing friendship, and somewhat sustained casual relationship i can tell you i'm not cut out to deal with "not having to pay for it" with someone who "gets paid for it" - because as fun, and almost strangely special it will make you feel, it will come back to bite because neither your or the other persons emotions ask permission to get involved, it just happens.
wow i didnt mean to write all that much but that felt good even if nobody reads it!
Met up with an escort a few years ago, who as soon as I walked in was like, "Oh come on, what are you doing here?" in a really disappointed voice. Talk about feeling like a douche, LOL! I was totally honest with her, and told her I must have every hot chick I see. She was hot too. I know in all statistical probability my chances of running into these women(escorts) at a bar/club are virtually zero to none, so I might as well pay for them, as that'll be my only shot with them.
It's happened to my buddy too a few times where he's been asked why he's paying. I know of 2 guys, including my buddy I just mentioned, who score a good amount of hot women, but still see escorts. And as I've said before, this is something more escorts and strippers out there need to realize; that there are good amount of us who CAN pull hot women.
This is NOT about havin a bog head...Or cocky. I have seen about 11 or 13 providers and ALL of them have asked me that question. I recently saw a VERY hot provdier in LA (some say she is the hottest in LA) and she said "I should be paying you" I have a GREAT body....train everyday, very lean (abs) the whole nine yards. I love the fact that I can fuck and LEAVE. No drama...no phone calls...no bullshit. No attachment! That's why I hobby. Plus pussy feels good :
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