question for all of you guys,

I am going on a trip next month and i decided to reach out to a few providers in the city that i was going to to see if thy were available.  one of the providers i reach out to was quick to respond and said she would be available.  she is not from that area, but tours often.  
for verification she required a photo of me holding my license.  i sent it.  
she was pretty pushy about a deposit.  Like most of us here I do not like them but understand the necessity of them.  i sent half to the venmo handle she gave me.  I figured this would show her that i was serious and i could send the rest a week prior to the meeting.  it is over a month away.  
she was persistent to receive the rest and also for a larger booking( that would require a larger deposit. ). I declined and said i would keep the 1hr booking and if chemistry was right i would extend if she was open to the extra time.  i asked her to send a photo of her with a hand written date on a paper.  She did this and i sent the rest of the deposit.  I did run the photo though an AI detector app and it did not detect any ai imagery. (im shure this is NOT fool proof. )

I sent the rest of the deposit but she asked me to send it to a different account.

what got me spooked is that then randomly she sent me this message.

"Hey darling, just a quick reminder that I want to suck your cock until I make you cum all over my chest, can’t wait to see you honeycomb. 💋
Xoxo 💕"

I thought this was weird.  We are told time and time again NOT to send anything explicit in communication.  

Am i being paranoid?  I dont care if i loose the deposit, such is life.  but i dont want LE or any other trouble.

Any advice is appreciated.

I don't have VIP so i cant DM

A year of VIP costs less than a one-hour session with an average provider.  If you get fucked over ONE TIME by a provider because you could not read her full reviews and complete profile, you will feel like a complete idiot.  Don't hold the pennies so close to your eyes that you can't see the dollars.  Geesh.

Reviewed and established ?On p411?  Did you block out your address?

Unless you're going someplace known to be highly anti-sex worker and highly targeting the clients I would not even think about it being some LE game (and since she's bringing up the specific acts doing a bit of entrapment).

 
At this point you can either write it off, learn from it and try approaching your selection a better way, or go through with it and find out if you just got scammed out of the deposit.

 
All in all, seems like a pretty bad rookie mistake episode.

You just got scammed out of your deposit.  

Honestly, the deposit and pushy part worry me. The final message not so much. I had a somewhat aggressive provider who is reviewed on here and didn’t require a deposit send me some pretty explicit messages and pictures to encourage me to both book and to be excited to see her once I booked.  

 
Deposits are not unheard of. I tend to avoid them. However, if it’s a well reviewed provider and something reasonable, I occasionally consider it. I have never lost a deposit being this careful.  

 
The part that worries me is she seemed to keep wanting more. And, you seemed caught off guard. Is my assumption this wasn’t in her ad, and therefore not something you expected? In my experience, a legit provider who requires deposits spells it out in her ads and on her websites.

 
If I had to guess, you got scammed. Sorry.

Or he can submit a couple of problem reports and wait a day or two to get VIP.. That's literally free. Maybe cost him 30 min of his time.. LOL

LE sting tactics are to get you to show up that same day and I have never heard of them asking for deposits. The extent of "screening" I have heard them ask for is a selfie so they know who to arrest when you show up. They are not going to ask for your ID because they will snag it when they have you in the bracelets. To ensnare you they are going to ask if you want a BBBJ and full service for $XXX (or something similar). It is illegal to exchange money for sex acts, it is NOT illegal to pay someone for their time. Most guys that are caught in these stings don't want to go through the embarrassment of a trial so they just pay the fine and move on. If you feel the need to ask the "provider" to hold up a piece of paper with the date to confirm they are real you already know this is beyond shady and you know it in your gut. She is going to try to keep milking you for more money and very unlikely you will ever see her. If you EVER feel unsure you can post a link to the provider ad and we can look at it and give you our thoughts before you send your ID or a deposit. You are not being paranoid and I think you should cut your losses and move on. Stay sane and stay safe out there.....Scarlet  

Thank you all for the responses.  I do get vip from time to time but do t do this but once a year or so.  I checked here first for someone who would be in the area that I would want to see but didn't find anyone.  

She did state her deposit policy.  40% of booking.  She wanted me to book longer hence larger amount.  I booked for shortest amount and opted for more time if chemistry is right.  

It's going to be in Tampa btw.

I prob got scammed but we will see.  Just don't want it to be l.e.  did blur my address.  

Thank you all

"Guessing" is what you do best.  Lol

40% deposit is extremely high my dude…it is almost certainly a scam because they plan to just con a bunch a guys out of their deposits because it is easier than actially providing the service to collect the full amount, and mich more profotable!

i just booked someone who asked for a 50 dollar uber card for a 600/hr session. that was acceptable to me and if it is scam, i am only out 50. she is very well reviewed and i messaged a guy who saw her who vouched for her. he has a ton of revoews and whitelist

i am going to set a personal rule to only do gift cards and only pay when it is 10% or less of total rate

Yeah well, not everyone can be as arrogant and cocky as you. Ever hear of an educated guess? Well, it’s something smart people do. They take the knowledge that they do have and apply it to situations where they might not factually know the answer. And, since they have some level of knowledge they apply, they’re pretty good at guessing. But the humble ones also recognize that it is still a guess and that they could be wrong. But you wouldn’t know anything about this because you’re just a moron who thinks he knows everything.

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No. It's too good not to be shared. Don't be selfish.

Should only take 5 minutes, 10 at the most, for just 2 PRs.

40% is very high and a number I wouldn’t associate with most legit providers who request them.  
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I am willing to do in the 20-25% range and some just ask for a flat $100 as they prefer the cash. I am with you on the GC too. That is the only method I feel comfortable with when I send a deposit.

He can bank up a hundred VIP days writing PR’s if he wants to. But they’ll just be sitting there in the bank waiting for him to “activate” the VIP. The only ways to do that is to pay for it or get two reviews published.

IF this isn’t a deposit scam:
She got explicit AFTER you screened and deposited, to be flirty and keep you interested in HER, because there’s a lot of time for you to continue shopping around. You told her you would extend the date if chemistry is right. She’s trying to build chemistry sight unseen, and she doesn’t want you to book someone else for the next day.  

 
If you’d said something to her in your first email about jizzing on her tits, it would’ve been crickets, but after screening and deposits it’s not uncommon for women to get a lil dirty to fire you up. It may not be super smart because it’s a record laying around should one of you get busted later, but it’s not super uncommon.  

 
I agree with Scarlet that LE isn’t going to ask for a deposit. It would also be very shocking if LE was to send a deposit and an out of state ID to set something up a month in advance. So whoever you’re talking to is comfortable you are not LE.  

 
It could be a scam but not necessarily. The fact she hasn’t ghosted you after sending the deposit is a good indication it’s not a scam. If she continues to push for more deposit money, the likelihood of it being a scam go WAY up IMO.  

 
40% is an exorbitant deposit IMO but the fact she’s to be touring there is relevant. Providers plan tours but if they don’t have solid bookings, they’ll cancel. They don’t want to pay for travel on speculation that someone will book after their arrival. A few have told me that if they can’t pay for the travel and hotel with just the deposits they’ve received, they’ll cancel that city and send the deposits back.  

 
40% is still too high for me personally, but all that is worth considering.  

 
All this worry and discussion was avoidable.  

 
I think you’re too picky and/or lazy in your research. You know about this place. You’ve had VIP here in the past. And you’re sending deposits to women who aren’t reviewed? You couldn’t find a reviewed woman in Tampa, really?

 
There’s not a fuckton of reviewed women in Tampa like some other cities, and Tampa doesn’t have it’s own ad board; so all that was working against you. But there seems to be a pretty good number of reviewed women there. You should’ve been able to find something safer with a little more work.  

 
People are bagging on you for not having VIP but you didn’t even NEED it to do better than what you’re in now. VIP is great for PMing reviewers, and “juicy details” gives a good idea of what she does and doesn’t do. I do recommend having it. But the general details are enough to discern if she’s legit, as a minimum. Honestly, how many times can you read “I decided to text her and glad I did” or “blah blah blah would repeat” before deciding she’s not a cop or a deposit scam? Just have to put some time in.  

 
I understand you only do this once a year. But you talk like money is not that big a deal to you. You can buy VIP with an anonymous gift card. The minimum is $40. “Such is life” if you got scammed for 40%, but you can’t drop 40 bucks for a month of VIP? That doesn’t make sense.  

 
Seems like you were in a hurry to get booked. Next time you’re about to contact someone for an appointment a month away, go rub one out first and then see if you still think it’s a good idea.

I have to wonder why cops wouldn't accept a deposit, especially if it's coming from out of state.  In my ignorance of exactly how the laws work, I do know that sending $$ across state lines can result in a federal criminal charge which would look really tasty in the headlines and all the better if they could throw in some HT for a kicker.

Even if it's just within a state, people would still be using telecommunication to deliver the deposit which would have implications in itself.

The obvious, they would end up with confiscated revenue which may likely end up in their own general fund when surrendered during the negotiation of the plea deal.  

him to come up with something witty or clever on his own, did you?  Lol

your "guesses" sound "educated" to anybody but you.  Most guys here are much more experienced than you.  Maybe you should look back at your own posts and see how many times you double-down on something you said that was wrong.  Most the time, you just pick BOTH sides, so you can't be called out, but that's the tell on your lack of experience.  

You’re in no position to judge me. At some point, you decided to put a target on my back. It really doesn’t matter what I say or what proof I offer. You will just continue to twist it, poke holes in it, and make up whatever bullshit keeps you thinking you’re winning. So, at this point, any opinion coming from you that is about me is jaded.

 
And why is this so? It’s because I have triggered you. I’m exposing your bullshit more and more. And the more you keep coming at me, the more I will expose. You can walk away anytime. I honestly don’t care about you enough to keep seeking you out if you get the fuck off my back. You’re unimportant. You’re a little man who lives for trying to be king of a fuck board. You realize how pathetic that is?

You'll never win an argument against a narcissist.  Well, you will, he just won't know or accept it.  lol

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Uhh is it possible you misread part of it?

 
Scarlet said, and I mentioned that I agreed, that LE doesn’t ASK for deposits. As in, when they’re running a sting posing as a provider to bust a bunch of would-be johns. They want to cast a wide net and get as many violations as possible. So, they don’t want to eliminate a large portion of the candidates by having the “fake hooker” require a deposit.  

 
The only thing I said about out of state was that LE, posing as the john, would not SEND a deposit along with a picture of an ID from another state. Which the OP said he did. My point was that doing so convinced the provider (scammer?) that they were not dealing with a LEO.  

 
I’m not sure what you mean by “wouldn't accept a deposit.”

 
BTW WTF is HT? LoL

I'll type slowly for you Lt, but check again where I began with "I wonder" as in, why wouldn't they ask and then receive a deposit?  They could also allow themselves to be talked out of it and still catch the Johns if they were afraid a few would fall thru the cracks but It would enable them to add more charges to the offense like adding a drug or weapons charge.   It was pure speculation,

HT is human trafficking.  Try to follow along.

What do deposits have to do with drugs or weapons?

 
A local PD wouldn't necessarily be interested in Federal charges that they could not themselves prosecute. The local USAO would have to get involved and that would complicate a relatively simple case and mean they'd have to share the "glory" with the feds.

I know, I read his response like 3 times scratching my head. Why and how would sending/asking for a deposit to see a sex worker have anything to do with drugs or weapons?? What?!?

If you're curious about that I'm sure you could dig into to the police reports and hearings related to arrest to see how often the operation setup included asking for deposits and then you'll know.  

 
As for the additional charges, I'm pretty sure that whatever charges sending a deposit via some bank or payment app might exists is going to fall under Federal jurisdiction and whatever State or Local governments might be able to charge would probably be significantly more trouble than it was worth (and much more costly than any potential benefit to police or politicians). Cash or deposit is still going to be a charge related to buying sex -- pretty much a sufficient aspect for the charge. No need to try to document two paths.

Ya know, you don’t have to try to be a condescending asshole every time there’s an opportunity for it.  

 
A deposit is either required or not required. How are you going to just accept a deposit without asking for them? You’re the one who started talking about LEOs “accepting” deposits. Nobody brought that up but you. Now you want to tell us that the word “accept” means a bunch of shenanigans about requiring  them in the decoy ad just to drop it if someone asks. Yeah. Sure. Okay. 🙄  

 
Thanks for at least admitting that all you’re doing is here BS speculation. We agree on that so I don’t know why you have to act like a prick.  

 
You watch too many movies. The rest of us in the real world know vice cops get funding by getting headlines about vice busts. They’re not going to begin the operation fucking around with a BS stunt trying to finagle some finance charge. They read boards too and they know a huge number of guys are going to see “deposit” and keep scrolling.  

 
Yeah of course once the vice busts are made, financial and other charges are often added like laundering and tax evasion and etc etc. This is after they have all the evidence and witnesses in their control and they see what all they can make of the big picture. That’s so fucking obvious it shouldn’t need to be said.  

 
But in a decoy hooker operation they’re casting a wide net.  

 
Now, there might be some part of your brain that wants to stay twisted up about this. I’m done with this conversation though.

posting with an alias, you would have substantially more posts in the post 30 days on this board than I do.  Who's the little man who wants to be king of the fuck board now?  Do you realize how ironic that is?  When you tee it up like this, which you do often, I'm always going to take a swing.  

It doesn't have a single thing to do with it, i was simply stating it MAY give LE the ability to stack more charges.  Maybe I should have written it differently but if a john gets arrested and allows LE access to his vehicle, they may find other things that they would stack on and likewise a popup brothel with guns and/or narcotics on property.  

If you're next going to try and tell me LE wouldn't be interested in the opportunity to stack on any extra charges following an arrest, you don't know the methodology of law enforcement as well as you preach.  

You can probably find HT used for human trafficking 1000 times in threads on these boards.  

 
You mock, I act like a dick.  Fuck off

Not even close. 75% of my posts are responses to your troll posts. And when was the last time you weren’t in the top 10? Please tell me troll who started posting in October of 2015 and hasn’t stopped. I’m coming for you.

is not showing atop the top ten is because you are posting from an alias.  It takes one minute to isolate and count them.   As of right now, you have 102 in the past 30 days, which is more than me.  Another case of you posting something that shows you are either a liar or just can't count.  That's two "can't do math" posts in three days.  Keep it up, you're on a roll.  Lol

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Look Sherlock, I know it doesn't show because I am posting from an alias. I never said this wasn't the case. And, congrats for counting the last 30 days and trying to win at... Fuck, I don't really know. But isn't it ironic that you of all people is trying to judge me for how much I posted in the last 30 days? Now, I know this is hard for your simple brain, but it takes more than your basic counting to really explain how this works.

 
So, first, let me repeat, you f'ing troll you have posted on this board since October of 2015. You have posted 30,225 (technically more now because this is dated now) times. That's ~4200 a year. That's ~80 per week. That's ~12 per day. And from day to day, week to week, month to month, these are all variable estimates. So, we can be shit sure you have at times gone more ape or less. But you just critisized me for 102 in 30 days? When your average over 10 years is ~340 for every 30 days. Holly fuck you just hand out easy material.

 
Okay, okay. Now let's break down these last 30 days to really understand it better.

 
- Going back to May 5 (30 days), you have 123 posts. I have 147. So, in a vacuum, this is 24 more. Clearly you can't count because you had me at 102. Anyway, let's dig further.
- 8 times you have commented on something I said. This has resulted in 33 posts I would not have made if you weren't so obsessed with me. I didn't count, but once you started, it was back and forth for awhile. You can argue if I didn't respond to you trolling me you would have less posts, but you don't get a pass when you're the one starting shit.
- Only twice did I post first with a comment on something you wrote. And, TBH, this was mainly retaliation because you keep trolling me. But you have 7 posts you can argue you wouldn't have made had I not commented on your post first.
- It's very clear who is obsessed here. You even asked where I was when I didn't respond to your stupidity for a couple of days. If there was no you, I would be at 114 posts. And holly fuck, guess what, you would be at 114 posts too. And you know what else, it doesn't mean shit. 114, 124, or 147 what the fuck ever. We both posted a lot in the past 30 days. You really think there is anything to win here?  

 
But maaaaaaaaan have you done even more than this on average for 10 years you loser. Get. A. Life. Or...

 
Keep the dream alive! CDL, the King of Bullshit on the TER Fuckboard. Hip hip horray!

I put him on ignore ~ 2 years ago.  He has no other life than to pick fights here.  God help his therapist.

after I called you out for saying you had been a TER member for 25 years, but at the time you said that, TER had only been in business for 22 years.  You're just another bullshitter who hides when caught.  Helixir, meet Heshits.  He's just like you.  You two should get along very well trying to out-bullshit each other.   Lol

"Allows access to his vehicle"? If it's an arrest the car would probably be impounded in which case an inventory search would be performed. That is one  of the exceptions to the search warrant requirement and no consent is necessary.  

 
Any guy who shows up to an appointment for an illegal activity with guns and/or drugs in his vehicle gets what he deserves.