Now here is an interesting subject...LOL. There is a thread on the Vegas board of a gent looking for a BBW provider. I have felt so wonderful with all the responces from people recommending me.

One gentleman also responded. He said I was beautiful but I had a large stomache disproportionate to the rest of my body, that was well hidden by my photos, thus bringing up the question of truth in advertising. ****(This paragraph was edited to reflect the actual comment the gent made, my apologies to him)****

For the ladies, how do you handle a "flaw" that the gents find. Is there anything you hide in your pictures, because lord knows we want all of our pictures to be flattering.

And gents...does certain physical imperfections diminish your time with a lady? I can understand if a woman claims to be 110 lbs and she is actually 140...or if she says she is 25 and she is really in her late 30's.

I myself posted this and had a hard time doing it...LOL...I am a 38 year old BBW. Now a BBW can range from a size 18 and up. I wear a size 22/24 and I have a belly. I have stretch marks and a scar from surgery. I have always tried to be very honest about that but obvioulsy I wasn't because this gent said I was not proportioned very well. I am wondering if I should post more pics showing my whole body, even if I find them unflattering, or if I should just be honest with those who want to see me. This is the only time in 3 years this has come up on a board, although a couple have said in my reviews I look larger than my pics. Any gent who has seen my ad pics and called me, I have sent to my site. And a couple have come back and said no thank you. I am good with that.

I have been blessed with great hair and cheekbones and eyes, thanks to my grandmother, so I play up those aspects of my physical appearence. But I have never lied about being a large woman.

I am very interested in what you gents and ladies have to say.

Sorry for the ramble....


xoxoxo
Lass

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Lass,

I too get lumped into the BBW catagory.  I am 35 a size 18 and while I am struggling to loose it has a BEEN a struggle.  

My photos on my site are mostly clothed and shot to reflect my best features... Long red hair... blue eyes and PALE skin.

My reviews do speak of me as a BBW as does my profile.  I have a photo on Yahoo profiles page that shows my whole naked bod.  I also send that when asked for a nude.

When given references I tend to consider the girls a gent has seen and if I am out of his "norm" advise him that while I would be honored to join such esteemed ladies on his "have done" list I am not similiar in perportion.  Most of my lovely gents are quick to tell me that they like "all types" or are going for a little change up.  I got it off my chest and they know the score.

Hope that helps!!

Rebecca

I have seen gents who have never seen a BBW before according to their reviews and references, so I absolutley make sure they know what I look like physically. I have been a "first" BBW provider for alot of guys. I truly hope they came away with wonderful memories.

But I must say..you are gorgeous and I love your Celtic artwork...I also have a tattoo right below the back of my neck that I also make my gents aware of.

For some it is very much the physical that is the fantasy. Others it is the mindset and companionship. Either way, it is what definately makes the hobby great. Variety and spice.

Thanks sweety

xoxox
Lass

In a post a few days ago re BBW providers, I posted in the thread a remark that the middle "W" stands for "Beautiful".  I still stand by that.  I'm one of those men who like women of all shapes and sizes, caring more about other qualities a provider or friend may possess.  I have looked at your site, Lass, more than once, including just before responding to your post.  As far as I'm concerned, you are completely up front about who you are, what you are, and how you look.  Any man confusing you with a lesser proportioned woman is blind, crazy, drunk or drugged, or just plain stupid.  You have nothing to be ashamed of, and in fact have provided much more than a reasonable amount of information for a prospective client to make an informed decision as to whether or not he would spend time with you.  Between your site and your awesome set of reviews, the decision should be easy.  

And your eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  But that's another post.

You know babe so far I've found that there are two types of gents who visit us. There are the ones who really love women. I think for them we are like candy and cereal, (I am still waiting for my brandname lol). They can experience a different type anytime they like. People get bored with the same thing. When I have friends like these I really like them. I give my favorites little nicknames which they know and answer to like,"my rent boy" and "sir fucs-a lot". It's all fun.

Then there's the men who I try so very hard to not see. Some just love to make women feel bad. I was so angry because someone was complaining that a girl basically wasn't worth her donation. How dare they...
I know that some men have issues with women and they love that hurt look we can get in our eyes when they diss us. Think how great it must feel for a person to hide behind an alias and rip us apart?
Honey I saw the pictures you sent me and you are lovely. Some men can't believe that we are actually people and it's not us against them.

Very Good Point Lass...
the only problem I have especially with a local "Agency" here in victoria Bc..is they advertise girls not as they are...saying girls are 19 when they are between 19-30 and 33 when they are 50 and I have no problem with ladies of these ages but they should not be advertised as something they are not..as for physical imperfections in pics...like you are going to be able to avoid that ..being a former digital photographer myself...pics are not always going to be 100 percent accurate...just treat the Lady with loads of respect , be a gentleman and have a GOOD TIME!!!
thanks for the post Lass...Always be you and never change!!

That is a very good point about the age. If a lady says she is one age and she is obviously not she deserves what she gets.

On another note..I only see men over 30 because most of them realize that our bodies are not perfect.

No matter what you do or how you advertise, you can't make everybody happy.  Some guys would complain if they got hung with a new rope.  His poor review was probably due to feeling guilty after the fact.  Some guys always feel remorse afterwards and figure that  they have to feel bad about the experience.  It's easier for him to find fault with you than with himself.  No matter what the reason for his comments, I personally wish you were closer to Pennsylvania.  Sex is 90% in the mind and attitude.  After reading some of your posts, I feel certain that you are definitely not lacking in those areas and would probably send this old geezer to an early grave with a smile on his face and in a coffin that cannot be closed.

Lass,

I'm sure this is somewhat a quandry for many gals, not just those in the BBW category.  The question of truth vs advertising has to be one difficult, if not impossible, to find an answer to fit all circumstances.  

While the issue of showing only the most flattering photos should be a given, I think personally that the more important issue one of not being misleading in any way. If I see pix that are a reasonable representation of what a gal looks like & if she isn't too misleading in her ad (I realize many reduce their wight & age a bit) then I'll be probably be completely OK with her appearance in person.  But if the pix are 15yrs & 40 lbs outdated, I'm not only gonna but upset...I'm also gonna walk.

The concept of two people getting together with sufficient connection to make a good time possible has to begin with an element of truth involved....on BOTH sides of the fence. Anyone who is deceptive only sets themselves up for disappointment.  

I realize this isn't an answer...just a comment because so many encounter something of this general nature so often.

But Taylor you are PERFECT in every Way my dear....Stay happy and Stay Safe

Let me know who was mean to you and I will get all Boudicca on his ass!!




Rebecca

Hi I looked at you site and noticed that you list birdwatching as a offerered service. What's that? Your hair and eyes are beautiful.

Hiya, Lass--

When I email somebody, I often feel compelled to let them know that my pictures are really flattering; my weight tends to fluctuate a good bit, and even at my thinnest, I'm "voluptuous."  So, I tell people that.  I also feel compelled to let people know stuff like "I have a big zit on my chin" if we've not yet met.  I think that my attitude is in response to the agency I worked for that did indeed fib about me.  For example, the owner would tell people that I'm 23-27, when in fact I'm 37.  He would also tell people that I weigh 110, when I tend to weigh anything from 130-140.  I also wear glasses, which you can't tell from my site, because I've blurred out my face.

I find that people tend to appreciate my forthrightness, yet I just can't seem to get myself to post unflattering pictures of myself on my site!

BTW... I was interested in the definition of a BBW somebody posted in this thread (anything over a size 18).  I'm a size 8(ish) and have been told that I should bill myself as a BBW. Whatever!

Anyway, Lass, I think you are beautiful, and if some guy didn't like the way you look, well, then let him look elsewhere!

Love,
Anne

...of what's "beautiful" and what's "big."  And thus, if we don't fit one person's definition, we ought not sweat it!

Anyway, how've you been, MLAM?  Life good?  I miss you!
Love,
Anne

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Hi Celtic Lass

It is so nice to read about how you handle things! I wear an US size 12 and I always point out that I am curvy compared to most other ladies in Europe. An american friend showed me your site not so long ago to point out that size doesnt matter! you have great reviews, look pretty and you are honest and open.
The site where most of my reviews are, points out that looks should be compared to models..nice to see that in the Usa things are looked at differently! Take care! Kim xxx

Ok I just looked at your site and spent some time looking at your pictures....ok so I spent ALOT of time looking at your picture...LOL.

You have an incredible body. I do not see you as a BBW by any stretch of the imagination.

You know I guess BBW is becoming as varied a term as "GFE" or "YMMV". I have always thought of a BBW as a woman who has a large to heavy body. I spent a weekend with a bunch of BBWs here in Vegas for a Bash. There were women there who ranged from maybe 200 to 400+. What amazed me is how comfortable they are in their own skin.

Some believe if you are not slender, fit or toned you must qualify as a BBW. For me personally that is not the case. I have no misconceptions about my body nor am I ashamed of how I look. I struggled for years with my weight. I even taught aerobics and weight training years ago....and at a size 14 I had a minor stroke. Now at a size 24 I have perfect blood pressure and my heart is very strong according to my doctor.

So Anne, let extend an invitation to Vegas. If you ever make it here allow me to show you the sights of our fair city. We can discuss the good, bad and ugly of the biz and just enjoy this life as we know it.

And you are right, everyones idea of what is big, beautiful, classy, elegant and so on is different. Thank you for your insight.

xoxox
Lass

Guys are highly visual. We are turned on by what we see, not what we feel. It's very important that the description, photos, whatever is used, reflect a real image. Let's face it, most of us are not super rich and can not afford to see as many providers as we'd like. So when it does happen you want something there that you're into. Nothing is worse than getting everything right for the encounter only to open the door and go "Yuck!" instead of "Wow!".

Well I think all of us larger women tend to struggle with the different views of the clients we see.  I advertise as voluptuous, and a few reviews I have been said to be a BBW.

One guy said that on my profile it says baby fat, and that that was not a correct discription of me that I was a BBW and not necesarily the second B!!!  Then he goes on to say that even though he seen my pics that he was relying on the profile on TER.  I think he was so rude that I had the review pulled.  If he looked at my pics like he said he did, than he wouldn't have came to see me if he didn't like what I had to offer!

Another guy stated that he wanted to do DATY but was afraid of a possibility of a stench since most fat girls have a stench.  OK.....My question is this why even comment if you didnt smell or taste me than its not my fault that he didnt have the courage or want to go down there, I have been told by many that I taste good and smell good too, hygiene is very important to me on both parts.

I just don't understand why there are those men that come to see us heavier gals if that is not their taste?  Then we have to suffer with a not so flattering review.  Not because of poor service but because of our weight!  Its ridiculous.

There is a lid to every pot, or in other words different strokes for different folks.

I find that in most cases the men that I see are in every way gentleman, and I feel that maybe since they arent so concerned with some extra weight, maybe that is why they are all so nice.  Maybe in their experience and being older they have come to appreciate all women, and are more mature.  What do you think?

Sorry for the lengthy response I just had to comment since I am a plus size gal.  I vary from a size 15/16 to a 17/18 and I get all types of descriptions on my weight.  I am big bodied period, and even though I am going to the gym on a regular basis, once I lose the pounds I will still be a voluptuous escort, I will never be petite, just my body structure I guess.



Kisses,

Sammy

Boy these TER boards are like the child's game "telephone" where you have a line of kids; the first one whispers into the second one's ear and by the time it gets to the end of the line, the message is indecipherable.

FACT: Lass is the most orgasmic woman I have ever met, civilian or pro.

FACT: Lass, I did not say you were larger than your pictures show; I know how large you are and I enjoyed every inch and pound. I said you had a large belly, disproportionate to the rest of you.

FACT: Fortitude, I did not confuse Lass with a lesser proportioned woman.

FACT: Wooferdog, I did not complain in my prior post; I have not written a review of Lass (poor or otherwise) and feel no remorse for having seen her. She is wonderful and I can't recommend her any more highly.

FACT: Gravity is good for hiding fat. When I am with a woman, I try to lay down as soon as I can to hide my ample gut and man-boobs. Notice the photo of Lass showing her belly - she is supine.

I tried very hard not to be negative but just to point out that some BBW's are better proportioned than others. I'm proud to say that I prefer BBW's and their society-perceived imperfections to insecure waifs (waives?).

Heywood...

Honey, I guess this thread did start partially because of the comment you made on the Vegas Board...but you were not the only reason.

Your comment coupled with some of my reviews that state I am larger than my pictures show really made me think. This wasn't supposed to turn into a BBW thread but one based on whether or not certain physical attributes not shown in pictures constitute false advertising. And I am sorry, I did misquote you by saying you commented I was larger than my pics. I am sorry about that. It was train of thought beteewn your comment and the reviews I was thinking about.

I am sorry if you took these comments as a slam against you. They were not meant to be. I have in fact had e-mail exchanges with a couple of these people and told them that my questions and comments were based upon reviews and comments made about me in the last few months.


Although your comment about me being disproportionate stung, I realized that maybe I do need to be more forthcomming in my pictures about the size of my body. I guess I figured after 3 years that stating I was a BBW and my pictures were enough to give gents an idea of what I look like.

I never disputed anything you said. But my query was not based on you alone.


xoxo
Lass




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I think that you are stunningly beautiful... whew.  And if you ever get out to the mountains of Western North Carolina, I would love to play hostess to you!

Love and kisses,
Anne

It is an interesting thing...what we as humans find attractive in other humans, and perhaps more to the point...what we find sexy, what speaks to US, as individuals.

I think this is really more of the issue. I mean, we can all name about two dozen different celebraties of both genders that we could all agree were atractive. I mean, really, unless you are gay, you can't dent that Pamela Anderson (the example I personally use most often) is attractive, in the sense that, yeah, I'd do her, I can't lie.

But...she doesn't speak to my soul, not even one bit. I wouldn't PAY for her company...and unless she said something AMAZING when we met, I probably wouldn't even want to be in her presence long enough to get her in bed (assuming we didn't meet with her already naked and waiting). I just don't find her look at all engaging...to the big head...while acknowledging the little head would still be willing to do the job.

For me, I know I just MUCH perfer an all natural look. Anne, above, is a very good example, though if she were ABSOLUTLEY willing to do my bidding (versus me being willing to do hers) she would forgo the piercings. But, I'm a fuddy - duddy like that.

But yes...give me an all natural woman every time.

Still...I find it interesting that at least for myself, the "type" (re: body type) of woman I am attracted to seems to vary depending on other factors, like ethnic background.

Brunettes, and in general Italian / Greek / Latina women...I am most attracted to as size 8 - 10 - 12. I suppose a curvy size 6 with a SOFT body (versus the body of a female body builder) would be ok too. But blondes and redheads...for some reason...give me a size 12 - 14 - 16. You, for example, I look forward to each one of your posts, just so I can have that link to your site, and then enjoy that delicious rear end shot of yours. African American women...size 8 - 10 - 12, but for WHATEVER reason, I prefer them to look like they've spent a little time in the gym. A few muscles under that layer of female flesh (all fat isn't bad, you know) turns me on with my "sistas"...I guess much like my GF. Then their are Asian girls...stereotypically thin, and usually too thin for me. However, there are few things sexier than an Asian girl with real curves...say a size 6? But, for me...if she goes too much past that, it doesn't work at all. As sexy as I think you are, if you were Asian, it wouldn't work for me.

All to say, yes, there is a "lid for every pot", and sometimes the correct lid depends on what cooking inside that pot!!

BTW...some of those comments in your reviews you quoted were just plain rude, cruse and stupid. I am embarassed as a man, and apologize for my gender....perhaps there is something to be said, as you suggest, for a man who is willing to see past a few extra pounds (or even finds them to be appealing, like me) in that he can appreciate the woman within. Or maybe he's just a freak like me and enjoys a big bootie white girl!!

Now..let's talk about those "different strokes for different folks" why don't we?  :^)

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I have a simular problem like that.  I am a size 14 so I am not considered a BBW nor am I a waif.  I have all kinds of reviews from shes fat to looks thinner than I thought, etc.  I just quit reading the reviews.  I just realized I cannot please everybody as hard as I try.  I just do the best that I can.  At least that way, I can live with that!

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Would you please email me?  I'll email you right back.

Love,
Anne
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Re: How do you handle a "flaw" that the gents find. Is there anything you hide in your pictures, because lord knows we want all of our pictures to be flattering.

I guarantee the accuracy of all my picture and I do not post fake picture that is why I do not post glamor shots. My picture are amuture picture's and there are no misrepresentation on mysite regarding me and if you read my review they all say that my picture do not do me justice.

It is a known fact that there is more to be seen in the picture we select to sell ourselves, You can't please everyone although  Pictuture's are worth a thousand but words & FRAUDULENT PICS can hurt you.  You mention that you give a complete description of yourself on your site and then you should not have to worry about what other preception of you is.  Honesty is the best policy and if you post your real pic and change them on a regular basic then then you are just as good as the size 3,5-6-8 lady.  

Big Beautiful Woman do have the most magnificent Big Beautiful BUTT!!  So why shouldn't man not love every inch of their big beautiful body. The Bigger the Better--The Rounder the Readier--The Softer the Sexier. Most guys will want you "as you are"." at any size because beauty isn't just a size 4 it comes in "All sizes" and if the person advertise she is honest confident, submissive adventurous, affectionate and have a calming personality then that put her at the top level of an exceptional person and should make her are just as good as the next lady.

I agree with Wytchcat Rebecca " Most of the lovely gents will tell you that they like "all types" or are going for a little change up if you are honest about what you advertise.

I also agree with fortitude " you are completely up front about who you are, what you are, and how you look. Any man confusing you with a lesser proportioned woman is blind, crazy, drunk or drugged, or just plain stupid.  You have nothing to be ashamed of, and in fact have provided much more than a reasonable amount of information for a prospective client to make an informed decision as to whether or not he would spend time with you.  Between your site and your awesome set of reviews, the decision should be easy.  


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All I meant was that the photos and language on Lass' site are about as up front and honest as any site on the net, and that if anyone complained in a review about her looks, they only have themselves to blame.  Obviously, this does not pertain at all to you.