In this hobby, the motto is usually "the customer is always wrong."  However, Alexa Albert's book, "Brothel: Mustang Ranch and Its Women," points out that the brothels' motto is "the customer is always right."  Ms. Albert reports that the brothels do refund part or all of a session, if the customer submits a legitimate complaint.  I have never requested or received a refund, but several hobbyists claim to have received a partial refund.

when client should expect some or all of their money back once a session is over?
If so, how should ir be handled?


HalfHour

in which case it should be shoved up your ass.

But seriously, I have encounter two situations where money was refunded:

Once when I was too ill to carry off the deed (Bad shellfish at a seedy LV casino.), and once when the gal herself got ill from some salad she just ate.

I demured to the former and took a rain check on the latter.

Um no, and usually that's because if you had any issues you probably should'ved stated them before anything got started or WAY before the session is over. But if it's OVER well you stilll took up her time (the time with her you agreed to be there) and therefore she for that reason should keep it....all. If it was that serious you feel you should get all or some by the time it's over I don't think you should be going back.  

Posted By: HalfHour

when client should expect some or all of their money back once a session is over?
If so, how should ir be handled?


HalfHour

Assuming you consummated the deal there is no way that a refund of any amount should be expected or asked for.

I can think a few reasons to walk obviously before the exchange of money and the session has yet to start.

A sudden appearance by Aunt Flow would be one good example.

but if the question is presented in the "real world" alas getting a refund, partial or otherwise is rarely in the cards.

It's one reason that I will walk in a heartbeat without leaving a penny if I get the impression the session is going to suck, and not in the good way. lol

and for the white knights that are going to claim that we are paying "for their time" please go fuck yourselves, that's bullshit and everyone knows it. If you want to pay three hundred buck to hold hands and talk, be my guess, but I am paying to get fucked, (in the good way of course) lol

I can think of dozens of reasons where a provider should make at least a partial refund, unfortunately it rarely happens, that still doesn't mean that it shouldn't

where the policy is that if you tell management the gal did not perform up to snuff (and, from what I've read, you'd also have to be a regular) they will give you a freebie or reduced rate as a "makeup."  I don't see how this would work with an indie unless she suggested it  first.

Maybe it should not be that way, but it is.  Way too many low quality providers try to rush, one & done, instead of giving the full time.   But they keep the full donation.,,  
If a lady discovered she could not complete the agreement for any reason, it would be nice if the lady would offer a refund as appropriate.   It's rare.  
Sometimes a lady refuses service for some reason, either they don't hit it off or a cleanliness issue...  often the lady will suggest a refund to get him to leave quietly.  

In general though a client should not EXPECT a refund.  One can not DEMAND a refund.  That is why we do reviews!  To avoid a disappointing experience.  
skb

Re: Try some midol

or hair of the dog. Drunk is bad enough, but hung-over-bitch mode is a bit rough, even for you!



Talk about projection and psychotic inference! LMAO!

It was a PURE question from curiousity. No implication. No slant. No baiting. Nothing but interest in anyone's opinions or comments on the topic.

Hell, If you find a lucid moment, I'd actually like to read what YOU have to say, sans bile.


HalfHour

P.S. I don't think I could come close to Hiro, even if I wanted to.

do you think that most issues actually CAN be brought up during a session?


I'm curious because, for me, so far, I've had a high rate of satisfaction. I can remember only two sessions where something went very badly. Both were definately NOT a YMMV type of thing.

Like you mentioned, I didn't go back. But I didn't say anything either.

Are some things too sensitive to bring up, do you think?


HH

After the first pop it became obvious that there would be no seconds.  She quicky vouluntered to give me back the hour rate and charge the half hour rate.

I would be surprised if anyone disagreed with that, especially with the clear qualifiers you've stated, which define the question as relating to a specific scenario.

Looking at the posed question as being open to broader interpretation or additional scenario:

Do you think there's ANYTHING that might transpire during a session that would warrant a refund when the session stops?


HH

she falls sound asleep 20 minutes into the session and won't wake up?  

I'm being serious on this one.

Last week I drove out to meet my ATF for our scheduled appointment.  We had booked that morning and I rented a room through Price line-as she is very low volume and only sees a few guys a month she doesn't do in calls.  Well, she arrived with bad news. Her period had started a few hours before our appointment.  She offered me the option of limited activity at a reduced rate (aka, the best bbbj I've ever had) or we could skip it entirely and I would deduct the price off the hotel room off of our next visit. I decided to skip it and we just chatted for a while and went to dinner-all off the clock.

I can't think of any situation where I would ever ASK for money back after an appointment. No matter what a gal's reviews say it's always YMMV when you see a new lady.  If you don't think you got your money's worth just don't rebook and write a review that reflects your experiences.

I once had an experience with a highly reviewed provider, in which I apparently bore a very strong resemblance to her ex-husband.  She went through the motions, but ruined the experience with put downs and verbal jabs.  A couple of days later, she e-mailed me to apologize, and made arrangements for me to see another highly reviewed lady at no cost.  

Note: I was polite during the session, and did not ask for anything.  The lady in question, took pride in her work, and had a lot of class.

You follow thru with an appointment, aren't happy because of the results, and want your money back?

Write a review, fuck! Goddam!

I'm gonna stop right here cuz I want this to be posted and the mods won't let it thru if I continue with my thoughts....

Exactly. Though, Aunt Flo doesn't bother me if it doesn't them

But what wise-ass here was stating was going through with the appointment, then wanting his money back.

Wonder if he went to a restaurant last night, ate his entire dinner even though it repulsed him, then when the check came said his meal sucked and didn't want to pay. Saying this over a clean plate. And walked. Most places I know would've stopped me at the door, called the cops, whatever.

And I'm with you. If I know the session is going to suck ass, or it wasn't the intended in the firstplace, I'd bail and they'd be lucky if I didn't have some choice words for their sorry ass on the way out.

That like you are saying, the basic FS for one hour was running about 200 to the gal. That would be about 400 to client.

That didn't count the guys that came in with a bankroll and did hobby otherwise.

ButI can't verify that info.


HH

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then the fee is halved as well?

Is that a scenario that justifies it, perhaps?


HH

NO. Once your session is over and you've done anything physical your money is now the provider's. If you don't do your homework on a lady then don't be mad at the results. Likewise all provider's are YMMV.
However if you walk in,see it's a bait and switch and then leave without paying that is perfectly fine.

None, once you ate the meal you gotta pay...unless you become violently ill...LOL

Do I think most issues can? YES.  Are things to sensitive to bring up? NO. You came there for you and her to do some VERY adult things and can't get much more personal that.  

Posted By: HalfHour

do you think that most issues actually CAN be brought up during a session?


I'm curious because, for me, so far, I've had a high rate of satisfaction. I can remember only two sessions where something went very badly. Both were definately NOT a YMMV type of thing.

Like you mentioned, I didn't go back. But I didn't say anything either.

Are some things too sensitive to bring up, do you think?


HH

My experience is that the Nevada brothels are less expensive than alternative provider resources if you negotiate.  Of course, if you are foolish enough to accept the initial asking price, you will get clipped.

That one reason is if she broke a stated boundary of the client. I have some restrictions on things I will do with providers. I expect the lady to respect those restrictions just as I would respect any she may have for me.

I have a hard boundary in the bedroom that no one is allowed violate, ever, not even my wife. That rule is no one is allowed to play in or with my anus. I do not find it at all fun. In fact it will instantly take me out of the mood for sex. I will lose my wood and likely it will not be coming back anytime soon.

I tell every lady I play with before the fun starts that is a big no no. So far I have not had an issue, but if a lady broke that rule after I clearly stated it to her, the session would end then and there and I would never return. As she violated my boundaries, I feel I would be entitled to my money back as she has more then ruined the session for me.

Just like if I violate one of her rules the session would likely instantly end and I would lose my money. If she choose to take me well out of my comfort zone and disrespect my rules for play with my body, she has no right to profit for that ever.

She also would likely get an ear full as well, as I would not be very happy at all. I mean how happy would she be if I played with her anus after she told me no. I think I would be lucky to leave with my family jewels still attached.

Other then that, I really don't see a situation where I would ask for my money back, well maybe if she throw up on me. Maybe then as well.

were because after they got to me, they paid for extra time - and then cut their own time short. I didn't feel right keeping it, and since it was my incall and I was going to be there anyway, I gave back the extra. I saw both men again later and they paid for 90 min.

Its not just about "time" otherwise an hour of playing checkers would be the same donation as a 1 hour 4-way PSE with a trip to the greek islands. A certain level of professional PERFORMANCE is expected and rightfully so.

You ask if and when it's cool to get your money back. You're fucking serious?

At least Gambler came up with a scenario as far as her getting her period. What? You want a refund if she didn't lick your labia to your satisfaction?

Call me a drunk all you want. Might actually hurt my feelings if I gave a fuck about what you said about me and my 'projections'.

Hungover or not, well, you know....

Why, Thank you Mr. Pot! (hickup) Yours Truly, Mr. Kettle

blather, blather, (hick!) drool, blather

PEACE, LOVE, DOPE


HH

Oh I agree totally!

That's why I didn't! LOL!

Best job in the whole world: Being paid $200 to sleep for 40 minutes.


HalfHour

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Again I just set it's for time if you DID NOT get what you expect don't see them again and right a review but even if you literally didn't get the ass you fucked them either way and the money they get to keep is theirs. Doesn't make it right but you still used up their time also if we're being real. Now if they choose to give it back GREAT but demanding it ALL or some back and IF they comply then good for you. It's up to you to know you're getting everything you expect before you put your penis in anyone's orifice.

Same here. Never asked. Never would!

I had one lady who I had seen previously told me she would "make it up to me next time" when the problem was solely on her end. (I didn't even mention the issue during the seesion.)

The circumstances lead me to determine that we were probably BOTH better off if I just let it pass and didn't go back.


HH

yes, but be very very careful.....

how do you accomplish that if she's asleep and won't wake up? does one give yourself a five finger discount? i wouldn't. the most important thing is that everyone must agree to the deal......

on one occasion someone i saw was unable to deal with the full time... there was a sudden medical issue. she immediately discounted the time, apologized and sent me on my way. of course i went back and saw her again.

ladies with beauty, talent, intelligence and business ethics too..... they're a treasure.

Always for a longer date, usually overnight, where either she started to feel ill, or she had to leave to attend to an emergency with her kids.

I have never accepted a refund and it was typically more than made up for on a later date.

but some of the guyz who post here.... i wonder.

that was a good job.... i don't get paid nearly that much for when i sleep..... LOL!

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I've never been asked for a refund nor have I offered one.  I sell time and I am with my client the entire time we agree on.  If I had to cut our time short due to something like a family emergency or illness, I would certainly refund the gentleman.  At this point, its only fair as I would be unable to give him what he paid for.