It seems to me and to virtually everyone on this board, provider and monger alike that the past couple of years have resulted in significant price increases that providers are charging across the board.  While some providers are grandfathering in people at previous rates, many others are raising prices across the board.  Hotel prices have gone up, transportation and food costs have gone up.  It doesn’t surprise me that hobby costs have risen too.

Everything costs more money these days. I can’t get a decent 4 star hotel for less, than $300 it’s ridiculous. Yesterday, I told my twin that it was odd seeing a very reasonable provider rates & she pointed out why it’s legal in her country. I agree if it’s legal the rates would drop. Unfortunately, it’s not & the risks are higher. I noticed another provider in NYC who’s rates had increased 200% in the last 6 months. I see why it’s the level of service she’s providing. Not all providers are the same. Some go above & beyond by offering a level of services that are elite. To me it’s the entire package of a dream date we’re creating to customize each individuals desires. Unique.

I think the point is moot, as I don't see legalization happening any time soon. Of course, you never know, but it just isn't in the interest of too many politicians, aside from a possible tax benefit to government. Hasn't worked out very well at all for Cannabis companies though.

Most women don’t have a stomach for it.  It’s simply gross for majority of women.  Plus, social norm will still stay the same.  
Regardless if it’s legal or not, it’s not easy yo tolerate let’s say 70 year old going down on you. Gross 😂

All SF Bay K-Orgs raised their prices 30% in the past 2 years with zero pushback. If it wasn't for the strong USD/KRW rate, it would be even more .. my monger buds tell me K-Girls outside the SFBA get $$$$$.

But demand - definitely.  

Think about the taxes NOW they would have to pay if they don't have taxes already.  

Yes, I am aware  how industry was build.  Was trying to make as clear as possible why there will not be more providers due to legalization.  

I've heard that said about the stock market, bitcoin, real estate, etc....guess it all depends on your time frame.

But I believe that LE tends to go more after the low hanging fruit, like the sleazier motels.

Have heard that the legal places out in Nevada are quite high priced. But sooner or later the PTB will need to realize that this activity’s prohibition hasn’t really been any more successful than it was with liquor a century ago.

But it would free up LE to go after all the really violent folks. But it makes sense to at least decriminalize the activity so long as it is between a consensual act between those of legal age. And why do you feel the trend has been toward being more punitive?  Backpage went down because they got careless. We have a precedent as many were still able to obtain booze during Prohibition.

There are plenty of  YouTube tarot readers we all can put the question to. It would take much of the sleazy and dangerous element out of it, just as Al Capone and similar cronies were wiped out once liquor prohibition was repealed.

There you go. Not sure how I missed this. Looks like LGBT community pushed for this to stop TGirls from getting hassled  

Look at the bunny ranch.  

Ah, re-reading this, it's just to stop the cops from hassling walkers with "the look", it doesn't actually legalize anything.

Yes, they have layers of red tape that made the rates to go higher. Bureaucracy at work.  

munchinmuffin,
 You hit the nail on the head.  Providers Prices have gone up. due to other things going up. We have to support ourselves. But do not forget that it's also because now we have to also worry about the Law. So, there's no way that the cost will go down. If a providers low their rates, then she will not be able to keep a roof over her head.

I have worked at a legal brothel (the Kit Kat Ranch, also was owned by Dennis Hof) so I have a little background in this. With the advent of the internet it is very easy to find independent providers all over the world so the legal form of prostitution, the brothels, just does not have the draw that it used to. They do pay a shit ton in licensing, permits, and taxes, so yes, this is the reason for the higher price tag. The legal brothels in NV also do not want legalization in other areas for this reason. If there were more legal brothels as competition price would go down.  
So...with that being said, the vast majority of sex workers around the world want decriminalization which would remove laws/federal/state regulations that would make it illegal. If it were "legal" which as we can see with prostitution in most European countries it creates increases in black market activity including trafficking. So yes, if sex work was decriminalized it more than likely would mean that more providers would take on the profession, which would cause more competition, which would mean it "may" mean a reduction in overall price.

Look at countries where it is legal.  The prices have are quiet affordable.  German FKK clubs are a great example.  It's a modern western  economy yet a person can go into an adult wonderland and have fun all day at a cost much less than what we'd see here in the states.  

Kitty - I think if you go any lower, you would have to pay the guy to fuck you..  You are definitely not keeping roof over your head at that point..  I would never advise  YOU to lower your rates.

Not saying I will always pay more for the same I can get elsewhere , but you have to consider the quality  and reputation  of the ladies  too.
And ,also, some ladies  market to a  particular  clientele, so  her rates may not be for you.

I started the hobby in 1998. Back then you could get a really nice fresh healthy college girl for 150 and she was actually fun. Just checked EROS and a decent looking girl (not great, just OK) is like 1100. Thats insane considering how many women are out of work. I dont think its the general economy, though that contributes.  
I think the real problem is stuff like Only Fans all the cam sites in general. Women can make good money legally. And not expose themselves to disease or violence. Remember that story in the news? A housewife was allegedly making like 50 grand a MONTH! just on videos. The only reason she even got attention is her school kicked out her little boy when somebody discovered her. Frankly for that kind of money she can probably buy land, build a guest house, and fly in private tutors from all over the world.  
So yeah, that escorts are now fewer and more expensive is no surprise to me. Losers are spending more on short videos than I spent on touching a woman 25 years ago. It stinks but its life.  
And also thanks to the economy regular women are getting way more gold-diggy if you know what I mean. You better have an excellent job and a nice house and a bunch of other stuff before a girl will even agree to date you.
Dating pool gets WORSE as you age, not better. Any woman who is available is either seriously messed up in some way, or just REALLY self-serving and picky. Or she's both.
Nope, I'm probably gonna be single until I die, and will never be able to afford an escort either. Haven't had one since 2010 when prices were lower. That was near DC, I think Fairfax or Arlington.

Yes , I agree with pretty much all you said. The funny part  that had me cracking up was the "looser  who spend so much money on videos "  .  Yes, that's  the age we live in - the who social media craze . People are walking in traffic  and falling in sink  holes with their eyes glue to their cell phones ,cant even wait till they get home.

Rate can be high just because  of that alone - not mentioning  services and other factors.

As a near 70 year old, I have not experienced the feeling that my providing oral pleasure to the lady is at all gross....... or the provider acts out their part better than i can see thru......... and to be invited back is always on my mind.
 Maybe here in the midwest, the experience is less fake and can sincerely be shared by both, no matter what the age AND paying more than 400.00 for FS is ridiculous since generally speaking, after hobbying for over 20 years, the session can only get so good  and that does not matter how attractive you think  you are or what the economy is forcing cuz both are in that same economical conundrum.  If you enter the exchange knowing that it will be magical and be willing  to give as well as receive then the price will be fair and for sure duplicated with both in agreement.
Us old guys that have been around for awhile usually know how to do it and how to read what is enjoyed by the lady when we take our time with their desires in mind........this also seems to get one invited back at a fair price cuz maybe sometimes they want to see us too...........

After reading this thread, I feel like i want to go out and shoot myself. WOW what a bunch of low energy posts. Sure there are areas where the hobby has gotten out of control but that does not mean that there are not good times able to be had and still be able to pay your rent.  maybe the complaint should be about the 2 to 3000.00 dollars being forced to pay for rent and the outrageous prices of gas and food but no use complaining about that cuz it is not changing anytime soon.  
Hobbying though is still within reason in many areas......I just spent 3 days in Vegas and saw 3 stellar ladies for 300.00 FS one hour sessions that were upwards of the greatest of my 20 year hobby.  
In Minnesota, there are many gorgeous ladies that one can see for that same price and every service that you can dream about. maybe the discussion is where you are trying to participate in this hobby cuz as i read this thread I just cannot relate. Feel free to PM if you need a shoulder to cry on ot just for advise. Stay safe and hobby on.....

I'm from Mn. Agree with your post.
By the way,  have you ever met with Kimberlie? A truly great milf.

But we have a precedent for this as well. For a long time NV was also the only place within the US where gambling was legal, sans some state run lotteries. Now it is nearly everywhere.

no roch man I cannot say i know that lady but you may PM me the data and i would love to explre ....thanks and Minnesota stay warm while you play

Dear Ms Scarlet the high class harlot,
That would be true considering what your expenses are.   However, I would also consider the area of the country and the median income of some southern states which tend to be lower.  I would also look at the tier of the demimonde that the provider is working. That will always dictate what you can charge but more often what your hobbyist will pay.  Although you have that prices have gone up 30 percent I would also assume that the number of men that inquire and actually book has diminished as well.  That means the core customer base is smaller which means that your guys have got to show in order for you to get dough.  With that said you might want to give small incentives to keep them returning.  You might be in the middle of a paradigm shift business wise as you start to see fewer men and tour fewer places since your eliminating customers with the higher price point.

I agree with the people on here saying it will increase the number of johns more than the number of providers. It seems a lot of guys are really paranoid about being busted by LE, even though the providers are most often the ones charged. I see so many reviews where the guy calls it off because she said too much, or he saw a police car in the parking lot or something… I don’t really think LE action is nearly as prevalent as these guys assume (note we’re talking about escorts for outcall or incall in hotel rooms, not street walkers or heavily trafficked houses), but I get it, they have A LOT to lose if they get caught, and certainly the practice of publishing johns’ names and pictures is a scary thought. So you take that off the table and there will be a lot more guys entering the market. But even if the providers don’t have to worry about being arrested, I don’t think the social stigma will go away, which is probably the biggest reason it’s pretty rare for a woman to do this kind of work. And the money itself is what makes that social stigma an acceptable trade off, so if the high class escorts aren’t able to make the nice income that they’re making now, you’ll see more of the very attractive, young, and educated ladies (the ones who don’t NEED to do this) drop out.    

I have worked where it is legal to to be a sex worker, back in my 20's in NV @ The Bunny Ranch. I can tell you 1st hand legalization does not affect pricing. I charged 1500 hh 3000hr and there was porn stars that where charging 10,000+hr & yes men pay it. The brothels and "The Circuit '" was where you expect to pay those type of rates.  

Agreed pretty much. In Cali, it's minimum 700, or 1k for any decent looking woman in shape without the cultural pressure put for 'bubble-buts' and all the fake job down instead of plain and disciplined exercise that used to be in vogue (not anymore) to tone routines (no more supermodels anymore in media and what a farce has 'modeling' become today), and can be very iffy in performance as a lot of reviews on ter today are so biased or shilled or in general reviewing clients are afraid to put out the truth in the review rating numbers. Because there's so few actual quality providers left no matter the 'top ter' listings or ratings. And the women aren't even the same anymore as they were in the mid 00's. It's societal, generational, cultural shift to rotting of the imploding world going downhill, and the general devastated and strained middle-classes of the world, that's continuing to get worse (until the next ww) that has infected hobbying in general and also stressed the provider ladies too with cost of living expenses.

This thing is not just about market economics and legalization. There is an omnipresent and overweening cultural aspect to what we do here that manifests itself in opprobrium and disdain if not outright contempt for the women who engage in sex work. From the fulminating preacher (who’s probably fucking young boys in the vestry) to the haranguing public official (who’s no doubt engaged in various forms of bribery) to the hypocritical women who claim universal sisterhood but who look down on sex workers as succubuses or worse, you’d have to change a whole lot of minds for this thing to attract more than a sliver of womanhood. That sounds to me like a cultural shift that would take generations. IMHO.

It’s not entirely accurate to say that prices are going up “across the board”. Here in SoCal, the K-girl agencies seem to be holding the line around 250-300. And judging by the number of reviews—some days 7 out of 10 new reviews are of K-girls—they’re a not insignificant part of the market here.

I think the current state of play in P4P has more to do with classic supply and demand than OnlyFans or gold-diggy women.

These are not low energy post,it's  someone's reality. Don't  be insensitive to another person's plight. Just because  you are doing  good  doesn't mean that everyone else is.