That if you change your profile to "yes-really bi" or "yes-not really into it" under the category of "two girl action" as many other girls have you will qualify for those tens that you are looking for.

CIM is currently Don't Know.  Any of those being yes will help Jessica qualify for a 10, which she is (only because they don't allow 11's).

All but ONE of my clients that have summit a review, has first given me a 10 for performance and gotten it rejected by TER because the session didn't involve anal.  (At least on me, one of the guys I pegged).  So, they all had to resubmit it and give me a 9.  One even wrote, it should have been a 10 on his second attempt, but TER rejected it again and he had to leave that out.  

My last client said to me, "Since when is fucking someone up the ass a 'Once in a Lifetime' experience?"  

This post is not meant to brag or to point out my situation, it is to ask the men and women of the board if they agree with TER's policies.  I'm sure I'm not the only provider giving 'Once in a Lifetime' experiences and not getting proper credit because either they don't do anal or the client didn't want or ask for it.

Help me out here, what do you all think?

So TER changed it from 10 to 9. Big fucking deal..

Some of you gals need to stop obsessing over these scores....

This is one of the reasons I will not see hags from 10/10 list.. That is my DNS list right there....  

So here is a warning... Don't become one of those gals...

How do I change it?  I've done a double with other girls before.

It is because your profile does not say you "offer" certain things, not because you did not do it with the guy in question. If you are "Really Bi, kiss with tongue, and offer bbbj," you can in fact get 10s. You do NOT have to do those things with EVERY guy you see either, but your profile must say they are available.  Their site, their rules.



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field based on the doubles you've done. If you have reviews of those doubles, link to those too.
That should work.

I think it shows a problem with a rating system based on WHAT one is willing to do versus how WELL the person does what they do.

Anal is not my thing.  I have trouble with no kissing, no (or not satisfying) DATY.  One of my favorites is performing DATO particularly with someone who loves receiving, but I have had a number of one in a lifetime experinces without that.

and cim do not lol. Licking the holiest of holies should be up there IMO.

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Hi Jessica,

..who don't score perfect 10's!! 7's in looks works for me!!

"In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex, or More than One Guy. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum.

This does not mean she earns extra points for offering the service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score."

I typically don't go by the scores. 8-9-10 mean the same for me.  Who has written the review (the guys overall review history) and what is written in the review matters more to me more than the scores.

Some people don't understand how to score....

Each one told me that they posted my review.  After a few days they told me the review was rejected because they tried to give me a 10 for performance and TER said I couldn't have a 10.  This has happened to all but one of my reviewers.  They each re-posted with a 9.  I'm sure if you wanted to verify, you could PM any of my reviewers.

Some ladies are obsessed with getting 10/10s for ratings. I don't know you so you'll have to answer that. Most of us guys don't really care. I expect to see a range of scores simply bcos not everyone has the same tastes or the same experiences. If a provider has all 10/10s it makes me a little wary since she might be overly fixated on it and pressures her clients for those scores, like you did. Most of the scores are overinflated anyway.

Some guys take way too much weight in the scores without looking at the review and the reviewers history. For example, a 9/8 might be a fantastic review from some guys who are hard reviewers and generally score in the 7/7 range. Some guys reserve 10s for their true "one of a lifetime experience."

Ladies, we understand your desire to have good scores but stop complaining that you didn't get a 10.

didn't offer certain popular or score raising services prior to her début. When she realized the lack of these particular services would ultimately cost her appointments and money she cogently upped her game.  The rest is lengthily documented TER history!

 Much to this provider's credit she also realized early on that 9-10's and 10-10's can cut both ways by creating daily "once in a lifetime" pressures and expectations.

 If your first review is a 10-10; where can the scores go from there?

Never understood why it would be a requirement for a 10. Seems like the performance score should reflect the whole experience.  And the fact is I've found that in most cases a lady that provides greek tends to have inflated scores.  Let a guy stick it there and a 7 in appearrance becomes a 9.  The lady might not kiss but if greek is involved by God she is a 10 in performance.

The experience between two consenting adults is always subjective. Alway a YMMV deal that is impacted by chemistry.

It is a very flawed system.

To answer your question Jessica I think the scores just depend on which review censor is behind the desk for that shift.
I've seen and received reviews that were so non-descript I asked myself how did they pass.
I've also had clients say that they submitted a score (usually a "10") and it was altered.
So again, I really think it just depends on who is sitting at the computer for that particular shift or what mood they're in because there is no real consistency in terms of what is acceptable scoring or writing.
I've had clients reviews be rejected for not being "juicy enough" despite being novellas  and I've had reviews that were basically "I met her and she was really nice.  The end"

Personally, I don't care.  I think there is a really unnatural preoccupation with these numbers as if they really mean something significant- and they don't.  
I think you shouldn't fret.
Seeking acknowledgement by a flawed and heavily manipulated process is a waste of time.
The proper credit is in your appointment book and bank account IMO.

Every provider that provides anal or is "really bi" doesn't necessarily provide top experiences and every provider who does provide top experiences doesn't necessarily provide anal or whatever other freakery is required for a "10" score.  Everything that is exceptionally good isn't a damn 10 either.

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I didn't ask for anyone of these guys to even write a review, let alone, demand a 10.  I was contacted after the date letting me know that they wrote a review and tried to give me a 10 but couldn't.  I don't care if the guy wants to give me a 10 or 9 or whatever, but if the guy thinks it was a 'Once in a Lifetime' experience and then has to go to the trouble of rewriting the review so that it can be accepted with a lower score, that's not fair to the man that took the time to submit the review in the first place.

If the johnnie boys had a problem with a score THEY were wishing to put in the review...that's THEIR problem.  NOT yours!

But I agree with others here that are suggesting that YOU are obsessed with 10/10 reviews.  And you aren't the first hooker to babble this mantra.  And won't be the last one either.

Consider that the Top hookers in ChiTown have been at this for a while...some started with agencies..some straight to indy land...but the common denominator is the really good ones don't get on the boards and whine about scores (frankly...they don't post at all other than ads).

The real gals know how to play the behind the scenes games...and do it well.  It's the hookers that are "loud" and make the type of noise that you're making, that many johns will avoid and back channel with others to know the "real story".

And if you learn to keep your business private...then that will be your story.  And most will gravitate to the discretion of a hooker who knows how to have a bit of humility (no matter how "hot" she may think she is).

Your call sweetie...just take care of business quietly and build a solid rep in hooker land...or post this shit and draw unwanted attention to your narcissism.

It would be one thing if guys were choosing to give her a 9 instead of a 10. In that case, I would agree Aragorn, that Jessica should stop bitching about her scores. But that is not the case she is describing. It is guys that WANT to give her a 10 but are BARRED from doing so simply because of how her profile was set up. That doesnt make any sense. And if you dont think scores affect a ladies pricing, i dont know what planet you live on. Of course it does. Oh, some of the guys on this particular board can say it doesnt matter but consciously or unconsciously, everyone wants to be with a "10". I  am not one to trash the whole scoring system but Jessica's guys should be able to give her a 10 if they think she deserves a 10.

That whenever a hooker jumps on this with this issue...it usually results in a flamefest.

And my comment to her was to NOT use this board as a bitching forum on the scoring system.  But indeed she can and should be in communication with TER Admin and those johns who want to give her a 10.  Otherwise it's nothing more than a bitchfest for her.

I've only given a couple of 10's on here over the years. And only ONE of them offered anal.  And one is NOT bi either.  Why they allowed those 10's....I don't know nor did I care.  

But I sure as shooting didn't tell my hooker gal pal(s) about the review(s)...as I wasn't looking for some benefit from them either.  And you know that shit happens everyday as well.

But TER bounced it back saying that my ATF who provided the absolute best GFE experience I've ever had didn't rate a 10.  I do compare reviewers ratings of others and then check the ladies websites to see if their photos match the reviews AND my personal preferences.  There are some ladies who get 10s but their services are not what interest me.  And there are ladies who have only received 7s and 8s and I had a very enjoyable time with.  

Jessica is a lady that is best to see over an extended period.  I've Traveled with her over several days and loved our time.  She's beautiful, smart, funny and really knows how to connect with me.  That and the incredible sex we have rates a 10.  She's only 1 of 2 ladies I've seen more than once.  IMHO the rating system could using a revision.

And as she's apparently new to the game (at least under the current stage name) I would hope that after seeing how this is a topic that creates a shit storm...she'll use discretion moving forward.

Just kind of shake your head when a hooker that claims to be so discrete and well educated would publicly put this out there.  And she ain't cheap...at least based on her site  

Oh well...this one's close to me so I can watch and see how this evolves.  Hopefully Jess is as smart as she claims and quickly moves on.

This was first brought to my attention back in July when 1313miaminative tried to give me a 10 for service and couldn't.  I was told it was because I didn't offer Greek.  OK, I didn't worry about it.  Then it happened a couple more time, I told those guys, it's cause I don't do Greek.  Then this last time, my client complained to me and said "since when is fucking someone up the ass a 'Once in a Lifetime' you my dear deserve a 10..."  This got me wondering if OTHERS were experiencing the same issue.

I don't care if the men think I deserve a 7 and give me a 7.  It's not about the score.  I was just wondering if not doing Greek limited scores and if OTHERS felt this was not a good way of determining score.

Had I not posted this, I would have never found out that because I am not PROPERLY listed in other services (threesomes with extra girls and guys) which I am willing to do, then if I fixed this the guys could give me what ever score they wish.  I don't care what they give as long as it reflects what the feel the date deserves.

So, I wouldn't have "aired dirty laundry and gone to admin" because I didn't know that other services besides Greek made it possible for me and OTHERS to get 10s.  This board is not just to bitch, it CAN BE INFORMATIVE.  Which it was very informative to me.

Thank you to all those that explained to me why my reviewers were LIMITED in their reviews.  I have request for my profile to be correct and then the men I see can score me at WHATEVER they see fit.

I put my heart and soul into each encounter and if I fail to make someone happy, I will try my best to improve if at all possible.

All she had to do was read the rules for reviews, and she would have seen that she is, in fact, eligible for a 10 (assuming she's really bi as stated above), and the drama of her post could have been avoided.

OR she could have done some research on either the Suggestion or the Newbie boards, and she still would have learned that she is eligible for a 10, and the drama of this post could have been avoided.

Instead she posts with a somewhat dramatic title, on the GD board.  Don't get me wrong:  I HATE agreeing with ChiCPA.  But in this case, I do.  

Having said all that, I do agree with her the other posters that the rules are ridiculous:  there is no reason that specific acts should dictate the score.    

But there is also no reason to focus on the score the way she obviously is.  Or, in the alternate, if she is going to focus on her score so acutely, she should learn about the rules that dictate the score before she starts complaining on the GD board.



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She never said she was obsessed with having ALL 10s...she has NONE, and is new, so she likely did not know why guys giving her 10s were being rejected. I have never known TER to reject a review just for a score though...thought they just dropped it to the max allowed vs. it bouncing back?

Back in the day, I had the same problem and I DO in fact offer 4 of the 5 things listed to get 10s. For some reason, certain guys' reviews were only granted a 9 even though they said they gave a 10.

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I was one of Jessica's clients who reviewed her and had my 10 rejected.  She's an absolutely amazing GFE and my ATF.  I am very unhappy that TER rejected my review until I adjusted her performance to a 9.  Requiring the services of anal, bi or more than 1 guy does not, IMHO, equal a fair rating system.  I sent TER my thoughts and was ignored.  And she's rightly concerned as this is her business.

your points make her thread even weirder.
First of all I have never heard of TER rejecting a review and making someone rewrite for a lower score, as she said. No, they just change the score to the max allowed.

Secondly, why are the guys telling her that they wrote a review and gave her a ten but TER rejected it and made them rewrite it. Shouldnt they just have dealt with TER and leave her out of it? Shouldnt they just have read the damn review posting guidelines, which you have to get through before you can even submit the review. Are they trying to score extra points with her for discounted future sessions...or did she actually ask them for tens (like that doesnt happen all the time with some ladies) and then they let her know that they tried.

Third, once she found out about it, shouldnt she have just taken it up with TER, or just read the guidelines herself, rather than starting a thead on the GD?

Fourth: her subject line: (it SHOULD have been a TEN!) does sure make it seem like someone is obsessed with scores

Whether people agree with the rules or not, it is still TERs rules and you have to live with them. If they dont like it they can post on the S&P board (not that it hasnt already been posted there a thousand times)

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I've actually had this happen to me before as a reviewer.  I wrote a review and it was denied as a 10 because the lady didn't provide some of the services that dictated a 10.  I asked about it and was told that the rules didn't allow it.  I accepted that and moved on.  I didn't tell the provider and I didn't post about it.  It's the reviewer's score and it's their issue to have a problem with it.  Seeing how it effects you I understand your interest in it though.

Now I happen to agree that what is an amazing time to one guy might be normal to another.  But while we all have our own definitions of "Once in a Lifetime" we need a set of standards, some consistency.  Otherwise, the scores will all be 10's based on random things likes someone who gets a great BJ or because they had that "deep emotional connection."

Big deal.  You got a 9.  That's a great score btw.

10's for service has a lot more to do with attitude than whether or not anal is on the card. DFK, hot sex and fun and good acting is WAY more fun and important IMO.

I don't see how a 9.1 would affect a client's decision to not see you.
That's a good average.

thousands of other women have faced this same issue and handled it "below the surface." The general board, as you are finding out, isnt really an informative board. Its a mesh of high testosterone and male ego, coupled with supreme ball busting and verbal savagery. But thats what the guys want, its their board, on a guy dominated site. It aint "The View" here, no doubt about that. As I have already stated, you do have valid points. Problem is, these posts are all searchable and a lot of guys dont like drama, especially when asked to plunk down a minimum of $1500 to see you. I know for a fact, and London I am sure could back me on this, many women complain bitterly about the shit that goes on in this forum, but they do so by pm or email, outside of the eyes on here. My advice to you, and any high end girl or any girl who aspires to be a high end girl, is to stay away from all the drama you can. Guys want the fantasy, not the petty bullshit. They can get the drama at home and pay a lot less than $1500/3 to get it.

It happened to Matthew123 and others I won't name unless they come forward.

You and her have made your points. REPEATEDLY. Just my 2 cents, but its time to move on.

Just don't make a habit of this...

Or some might think we like each other  

Hey...it's early in the year..and now I got my one "like" from you  

Where this topic has been discussed ad nauseum.

Now get off the stallion and just let it go already.  You're NOT building a case FOR her...rather it comes off as a pimp situation.

If she's decent and earns a rep...time will tell if she is all that and then some.  Until then, she's got a lot of work to do to build a Top 10 rep in ChiTown.  Pushing for this the way you two are smells rotten.  Plenty of other hookers have tried the "fast track" approach to the Top rankings...some got there with fake reviews galore...over inflated scores that were nonsense..and bullying of johns to WK for them.  Don't get involved in that garbage...as word travels quite fast...and NOT on the public airways  

Just saying!

Good catch! I did not quote Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction, but yes...the "holiest of holies" phrase did in fact come from that movie!!!  

but for lack of details. I have been here for 5 YEARS, and never had a guy's review be rejected for a certain scoring, nor has any other lady that I know. So, it may be both in these cases. The detail part was lax, and the score was not warranted, hence the rejection. TER normally just puts the appropriate score when ONLY the score part is wrong. Something as simple as not including the "http://" for a provider's website url can cause a review to be rejected.

Here is my advice...don't make waves over small shit. If you need TER to succeed in this business for your area, I would not make too much of a fuss about such things in public. Take it up with them via email.

It's their system. If you want to play here you play by their rules. If you want to complain, go to the S&P board. Add your voice to the hundreds of others who have complained. If you read their rules before submitting the review, then you would have known she didn't qualify for a 10. The rules are right there in black and white. 7 is the maximum score. Additional points for additional services. There are 5 additional services or extras. So any 3 of the 5 qualifies for a ten. You don't like it, get her profile changed so she qualifies, suggest on the s&p board to change the rules, but don't bitch about it here. This does not bode well for her. It does not help her case. As has been suggested here, move on.

I don't care if it was Mathew or Barack Obama. And I hope none if the other guys do come forward. This doesn't help your case. Heed the advice of CPA and others. This kind of stuff should be dealt with behind the scenes, between you and TER ir the reviewers and TER. You can change your profile to add "bi" and then you will qualify. You don't have to offer anal. You can make a suggestion on the S&P board fir TER to change the system. Many have. In the meantime, live with the rules. But complaining on the General board is the worst thing to do. Even if it wasn't your intent, it appears thst you are obsessed with scores. That puts a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. Having white knights come out in the thread to back you only makes things worse, not better. If you are good you will build your reputation, but starting threads like this, only hurts a reputation.

My advice is to stop replying on this thread and let it go. You might even report your own post and ask them to remove it.

You never see the truly high end ladies posting drama on the boards when they encounter BS.
You offer good advice.

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The scores are the scores.  This is why I find it so irritating to write reviews.  Girls get obsessed about scores, instead of what is written in the verbiage.

I gave a glowing review to a girl and scored her 8/8.  I got a PM telling me that "I sucked" as a result.

She loved the verbiage and hated the score.  Why?  Because it fucked with her average and her rankings.

While I'm not saying that you are the same way, it left enough of a bad taste in my mouth that I will NEVER see her again.  And this is someone I used to see regularly.  No thank you...don't need the fucking drama.

And you wonder why guys don't let girls know that they are on TER to begin with.

This thread has been taken WAY out of contents!  SERIOUSLY, I don't feel I deserve 9's in looks, I'm a 7 or 8 at best.  Nor do I think my service is any better than a 7 or 8.  But, that's my opinion.

This post was because I was under the mistaken idea that a provider had to do anal every session to get a 10 for that session.  I brought it to the board to discuss because I wanted OTHERS opinion and an understanding why anal was so important.  

As it turns out, I was WRONG and there are other service a girl can do to get a 10...

It would be the same thing if I had been told that only blonds could get a 10 in looks and if you have brown hair then you couldn't get a 10 because TER doesn't think brunettes are attractive.  

I may have questioned that scenario, whether I was a blonde with all 10s or a brunette with 9s.  It's not the score and I wasn't complaining about MY numbers.  I am MORE THAN HAPPY WITH 9s, I WOULD BE THRILLED WITH ALL 8s.

I just didn't understand and wanted to find out what everyone else thought.  As it turns out, I learned a lot (one of which is anal is not required) and I ask for this thread to be taken down.  Not because I want to hide anything I've written, because if you read what I wrote NO WHERE DID I COMPLAIN ABOUT MY SCORE, but because it go so out of hand with misunderstandings.  The mods won't remove this thread because they feel it will be helpful to others that don't understand policy.

Sorry for not being clear in my original post and for my misunderstanding the policies on scoring.  For years I had a NO REVIEW POLICY because I am not very comfortable with people sharing details of our private time together.  This is why, to this day, I NEVER ASK ANYONE TO WRITE A REVIEW.

Purpose of posting = Create drama to bring attention to oneself.

seeing a provider is to comply with TER scoring. WTF is wrong with that picture?

This is beyond ridiculous and in the land of absurd. Makes one not to want to write reviews.

Recently 8, 9 and 10’s have become worthless ratings and one safely deduct 3 from 10, 2 from 9 and 1 from 8.

My goodness honey, let this go! Dont you have more important things in your life than to drone on and on and on and on about a possible scoring flaw here??? We all think the scoring system is flawed in some way. It as created by human beings! Get over it! Get over yourself! Do you think its just the guys who post on this board see your posts? You have tens of thousands of potential clients reading post after post by you on this subject. You have beat the proverbial horse to death! How is this helping you market/advertise yourself??? How does this help your reputation??? But keep going. Its a freak show and entertainment value at this point. You're hot, you have great reviews and ordinarily I'd want to bang the shit out of you but I have lost any desire by all the incessant nagging, bitching, complaining and whining. And if you check my earlier posts on this I AGREED with you at the beginning! But now you forced me into a 90 degree turn and you even turned off a woman here! Congrats!

The whole score thing is a hot topic on this board, because unfortunately there are so many providers who ARE obsessed with the score thing.  You clearly aren't after this post, but it didn't come off that way.

You shouldn't need to justify or say what you think you are.  You are who you are who, and that's fine.  Obviously your clients like you, so that's all that matters, and you say pretty much that.

Yes, there are other things a girl can do to get a 10, but let's be honest...the score guidelines are not consistent or followed.  TER itself does a fairly loose job of keeping reviews consistent, IMHO.

Yes, reviews can be great, or they can suck.

Thanks for your clarification.

It certainly clarified her point of view, and I would have no issues in seeing her.  She isn't close to being a nutcase.