I gotta vent. I'll first say that I have no pride in the fact that I participate in this dangerous game of pay for play.  I don't feel very moral about it and if people in the small town in which I live found out that I fuck hookers, I would be crucified.  I also know that for hookers, we're nothing but Johns who are paying for pussy.  Hookers aren't our girlfriends and don't give a shit about us except for our money.  At one time, I was reluctant to believe this, but reality eventually won me over.  

It's pretty easy to get a girlfriend because all (ok most) single women want to be in a relationship.  Your girlfriend doesn't have to be smoking hot or PSE.  Just get a regular nice girl.  

You're a whoremonger.  Own it.  If anyone doesn't like it, fuck 'em.  I'm not proud of fucking hookers but I'm sure as shit not ashamed of it.  I'm only ashamed if I make a dumb-ass mistake and make sure not to make it twice.
I have no, zero, nunca interest in a civvie relationship.  Been there, done that, several times. I'm at a point in my life where I know who I am, what I want and am totally comfortable with myself about it.  Virtually everyone that matters to me knows, too, and is cool with it.
If you're not in that place, I'm sorry.  Try and get there.  Best of luck to you.

Well I guess you've answered your own question. :0)

Robbin, don't project your fantasies one me.  I know you have an exaggerated sense of self-importance, but I don't think too many of us are impressed with your act.  

especially when you have your own issues and demons.  However, if you are still relatively young, say under 40ish, id keep at it.  When you're young, now is the time to date and experience the BS.  You have your whole life ahead of you to see "hookers".  This business is not going anywhere.  Put yourself out there.  You'll meet great girls, get hurt sometimes (or hurt the girl), but learn more about yourself in the process.  Nothing ventured, nothing gained.  

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I'm younger than 40....and I'm done with dating.  It's just too much of a pain in the ass.

it's obvious you're trying to convince yourself.

I'm a big believer in the fake it till you make it philosophy. These civvies you want,  they like confidence. First time I had sex was 8 months back. Only a handful of people knew that. To the rest of the world I'm mister flirts with everyone. Fake confidence and real confidence will come. If you're not handsome,  I for instance don't consider myself to be,  develop a sense of humor. Get out in the world and develop some stories so that you have something to tell where a crowd will hang off your every word. I've trained shoulder to shoulder with men that don't exist. I've got a handful of people who would forever preach that they would be long since dead without me. Makes for a good entrance at parties when other people do the bragging for you.

There is no correct way to feel about the hobby, having a girlfriend, or your particular human condition.

I'm pushing 50 and realized 15 or so years ago it was never going to be.. Steady relationships and marriage were never going to be in my cards.. I'm living proof there is not someone for everyone.. So sadly, the hobby is all I have.. I will grow old and die alone. I accept it...

You are so used to being able to pick and choose the woman you want to fuck, provided that you have the funds, that that attitude has followed you when it comes to dating.  In the real world people usually hook up with someone that's in their league, so if you are a 4 or 5 don't expect to be able to pick up a chick who is a 6 or above.  Honestly I don't feel sorry for you, you sound really shallow.  When it comes to relationships its not about how good someone looks or how well they can give a bj.  Even a woman who is a 10 is going to get old and unattractive some day.  Quite honestly with your attitude you are probably scaring off women.  Hobbying has probably stunted you to the point where you don't even know how to talk to a woman anymore.

Don't feel very moral about it?
you're not like most of us.

That maybe it's called a "hobby" for a reason.  It should be what you do, not who you are.  If you are this torqued up about participating, it might be time to take a break and get some perspective.  I do that from time to time just to level set myself and make sure I'm not getting an unhealthy addiction to it.

but even if you had the "game" for the smoking hot civvie babes it is still All ABOUT THE MONEY!

I hope it is soon, but till then, here's a little song to let you know that you are not alone, and in fact have it better than others.

I hope it brings a smile to your face also.

sorry someone shit in your cereal this morning.

As for the OP, get more game, or make more money. There are over 7 Billion people on this planet and over half of them have vaginas, even the ugliest, poorest, nastiest people out there find some one to fuck, Are you really claiming to be the biggest loser of all of them.

I hate to break it to you, but you are still every bit as much of a mangina as you ever were. Today you just happen to be a mangina in a foul mood. My advice is to fuck a blond and a red head and call us in the morning. You'll feel much better, even if only for a while.

and while I really, really hate to defend the queen of threADs, her "projection" didn't seem that far fetched, most OP's like this are prompted by guys falling for providers and then finding out it was all about the money. I hate to break it to you though, the vast majority of hookers DO have someone in their life, it's just not you. Hookers are women first, with BF's, kids, friends etc. Once you get that fact and start treating them that way they might stop looking at you like an ATM.

and anyone who wants to call me a mangina for this last sentence can GFY!!!

Thanks for the feedback to everyone who responded. Even the posts with harsh criticism had truths that I needed to hear.  With the exception of Robbin (her post seemed to be a projection of her fantasy on me), I don't have issue with the harshness of some of the posts in response.  After all, this is the GD board.  I knew what I was getting into and my skin has thickened somewhat.  I'm still a mangina, but I'm just not as much of one that I used to be.

You have taken the title as this board's biggest loser away from Rod in a single thread.

Enjoy what the ladies have to offer, treat them with some respect here and in person and all is good. I agree 99% are in it for the money primarily but I am sure some have a way that can make you feel amazing and sometimes forget that it is a service.

First of all. You shouldn't be asking for advice from here for that.

He is just pissed he can't get the random girl to fuck him.
Like Gambler said. That takes game.
It isn't that hard to figure out either.
It just takes shitloads of work..
Our great uncle Ben makes life a lot easier

You'd be the pigeons

And you wouldn't leave yourself open to retorts this.  But you did

While that statement on the surface is quite true, if you pick "10's" thirty plus years younger than you, by the time they get old and withered, you'll be worm food anyhow and beyond caring.

I'd say you nailed it.

Get your nut and enjoy the company of some lovely ladies you would never have met otherwise. If you're open to it, the brief moments of connection here can provide the same sustenance as a casual civvie relationship (don't get carried away). Regarding hot chicks, I'm not the first to discover that there is often an inverse relationship between appearance and performance, so try to look past the first glance and you may enjoy yourself more.

I do it because its fun to fuck a hot stranger not because I really want to get the release. I was little emotional in the beginning but now I am enjoying it. You need to let go off your guilty feeling about hobbying dude.  

Wonder if she'd like to take us up on cocktails in Jaco?

an everlasting fountain of recycled diarrhea ... yawn

I just might be the biggest loser on this board, but one thing I've never done is fall for hookers.....as much of a loser as I am.  I never have and I don't think I ever will.....and therefore falling for a hooker sure as hell did not inspire this post.  That's why I have to wonder if Robbin has a fantasy of a john falling for her that she was projecting on me.  Witnessing her behavior on this board doesn't make such a scenario implausible.  

And even Minnie's got more game than you. So, let me be blunt..

There are highly attractive as well as wealthy persons that have to participate in this for similar reasons as well. We all have our very own set of hang ups which led us here so you are not alone and should not feel badly. Personally, I would rather throw myself into oncoming traffic than to have a relationship and so I choose to do this to have my fun while simultaneously maintaining the peace, focus, and serenity in my personal life. I give you kudos for staying true to who YOU are and not settling for less than you want or deserve or striving to be something you are not simply for attention. When the time is right, this will all change in a flash and you will never look back. I see no issue in waiting around for that time/person in the company of fellow hobbyists and a little porn. The world is a scary place and there is little wrong with this form of controlled and honest dating for you will not find it elsewhere. In the end, this is a more economical choice than FWBS/SO's as well. Lol. So quit worrying about what people think, relationships, or free pussy and focus on what it is about yourself or your life that makes you feel insecure, frustrated, and/or as if you need such in the first place and focus on that.  
If it were simply to get off, it would not bother you on an emotional or personal level. Period.  
So my recommendation is a little self-reflection and self-improvement.  
It's just an orgasm and hardly worth any negative energy.

it is very apparent that you lack self confidence. I do not believe it for a minute that you are only able to get a 6.by society's terms of what is good looking, there are plenty of good looking people that date rather unattractive people. there are a lot of wall meet women in the world. why do you feel you need another person? why are you so codependent? face a you cannot have someone love you until you truly learn to love yourself. for now on it looks like you need to look inward and find a way to make yourself be happy with sitting with self. when you know the nature of your own mind, depression is spontaneously dispelled. whatever pain pleasure or other feeling you experience it is all an expression of your mind. when you discover that true satisfaction comes only from the mind, you realize you can extend this experience without limits. if we cling if we grasp there is suffering.you are in no mental condition to be in a partnership with another human being take really good care of yourself for a long time and wait and see and people will be drawn to you like a magnet. women especially can sense desperation on a Man. whatever it is you need to do to make yourself whole even being alone you need to make it so that you are good company and you do not mind being alone because you enjoy your own company. try taking up going to the gym join a martial arts class. find yourself some fun activities to make you more sound in body. I am not judging but my guess would be you do not exercise you do not eat well and you lack spirituality of any kind. once you find yourself and you are healthy and happy enough in body and mind.  
then it will be time for a partnership.  
you clearly do not love yourself making it impossible for anyone else to love you. there is clearly a serious problem if you have an issue with being alone. for some people true love only comes along once in a lifetime. start taking better care of yourself so that you will be attractive to other people. people who do not have hobbies do not eat well do not exercise are down on themselves. they radiate a very negative vibe which people will sense and they will not want to be in your company. I deal with people on a regular basis and a lot of people at that. when a customer has a bad vibe about them usually it's bad hygiene or a bad attitude. or things like inexpensive poorly done tattoos. little things like that show that a person has no respect for their body or how they present themselves. when I see a person with an old faded really poorly done tattoo. if a person can't put thought into something that's going to be on there body forever. and its not willing to put the effort in to pay a little extra for a good quality tattoo. it can say a lot about a person. I can definitely sense when a client comes and it is going to be rather unpleasant. for whatever reason some people are suffering in mind and body and spirit. and they radiate negative energy. and if you don't know how to ground out your energy it can be very harmful to your own self to be in the presence of these type of people that will drain your energy. for example that appointment the other day where he only gave me 120. where I usually get 250 for that type of an appointment. it affected my whole week. I had been counting on that money to do a spray tan and otherwise get things done I needed so that I can present myself confidently. with a muscle strain I am totally not able to do two massages today at this time. to put a lot of energy out towards a person and try to treat them with respect and kindness. only to find the person is selfish, and what I would call these people is an energy vampire. That man  wanted to come here and I gave him in over our long massage
I texted him my feelings because I am NOT one to stuff feelings. which is something else which will only leave to suffering. there's nothing wrong with communicating when you are upset at someone or upset at something. I sent him rapid fire texts about my feelings. and now I am able to wake up happy and go about my life and I'm looking forward to my visit from Mr Fisher tomorrow. my back is feeling back to its full potential I just did in aerobics TV day and I'm looking out at the ocean and the waves crash over my samurai sword in my window. I just took my dog fresh rice in my rice cooker with steamed vegetables in salmon and shrimp. my response to that man was keep the $30 you obviously need it more than me. when something gets me upset I transform the negative energy into positive energy and I end up working harder and making more money because of it working out harder and they end up in a much better mood from something that was negative. you clearly have some serious soul searching to do it is time to look inward and work on yourself sweetie pie.  
begin disciplining yourself so that you feel better about yourself and you present a better looking person to the world
there is a quote a man cannot love well unless he has dined well. if you are lonely try getting yourself a pet for now you're clearly not going to be a good companion to anyone with the kind of attitude you have. if you feel this desperation and need to have a relationship that is a sign of codependency you should be happy enough with yourself to not feel lonely ever. if you are busy having so much fun you will not realize that you are alone and you will realize you don't need anyone in this world but yourself. for me I am extremely independent and I am always busy doing this or that and having a lot of fun with life I wake up every morning on side of bed and I'm really excited for that day. I don't have time to feel sorry for myself or try and think that women who are six is don't want to be with me. and if no one wants to be with you you obviously are not attractive and it doesn't take a lot of effort to make yourself attractive. being attractive involves also your attitude. I have dated plenty of guys who were way below me as far as appearances. but they were nice to me and that goes a long way with me. when I was about 19 I dated this older older man who has bad skin on his face he was really short and he was definitely would be considered unattractive. she was a talented musician. he always works pensive suits smells great. he showed me around the town and wined and dined me. he took me to Cleo once. and then he took me to Mistral. we also went to some really fun not as fancy pizza places like one in Cambridge. he taught me about wines. we would always get a judge to Ravenswood estate expensive bottles. he was also very spiritual I believe you may have been Jewish, excuse me I believe he was Jewish, I remember him saying a word or two in Arabic. nevertheless he would talk about things like auras from time to time. I actually met him at an apothecary I was working at the time. I was immediately drawn to him and I approached him right away and we exchange numbers. whatever you were born with and are working with. it doesn't matter if you have a good vibe take good care of yourself and treat people right you shouldn't have any problems landing a very beautiful woman.take care of yourself and stop being down on yourself first off and foremost.

I used to have self esteem issues but no more.  If $3 million in the bank doesn't give you confidence nothing will. I am 47 and been in the hobby a long time.  As a professional self employed businessman , I have sat on both sides of the table.  While I have enjoyed many wonderful experiences with many of the fine ladies on the board, I have always approached this without unrealistic expectations.  Business and Pleasure never mix!  It works both ways!  Just as you visit a provider for 1 reason, remember she is there for another reason! We all have fantasies that the hot young provider who is 20 years younger will enter into civve relatipnshs with us, in reality it never works out.

Sorry I ended my previous post inadverdently.  My wealthy friends who are also self made tell me all the time;  "in the end we all pay for it one way or another". This is a very easy way to justify what Ido in my spare time.   The Governor may be alone, but never lonely!

/RANT ON/

the second thing I see you are doing wrong which is probably why you're not having much success with the ladies. let me just mention that guy that was not aesthetically pleasing I dated. not once did he invite me back to his place or pressure me to kiss him or be romantic with him. and he was spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on fancy dinners with me and taking me all over town! in the end after a long relationship the sex should come naturally and that should not be your goal in trying to find a woman' learn how to please yourself and learn how to have a good time without needing another person' in the meantime if you're enjoying going out to sea escorts then continue to do that but do not expect a girl you meet to sleep with you right away' in fact it is my opinion you should never pressure woman you're taking out on dates to sleep with you- there is nothing wrong with making friends and going out to dinners and lunches let her be the one to approach you' let her be the one to invite you to her house when she finally comfortable with you
you will have a lot more success if you do not expect sex from a woman
and the last thing you're making a mistake is you are seeking relationships are based on sex which they are not
if all your thinking about is sex and you are not interested in taking the time to get to know a woman in respect her and wait till she is comfortable
then continue seeing escorts because that seems to be what best. and that is not the only man that took me out all over Boston had a lot of fun with me and that never once asked me to go hang out with him after or sleep with him.  
that's just a bad attitude to have and it's a very bad way to treat people.  
try getting a woman to hang out with you as a friend and do not look at them as a slave that is going to be pleasing you in the bedroom. I would start by having female companions that you go out and do fun activities with rock concerts dinners
you need to start from the bottom sweetheart.
start by meeting some women and taking them out on nice States and treating them well and do not look at it as sex just start learning how to date and have friends.
both male and female friends that is
if you not have female company right now it shows you are socially inept.
you need to get out there and make some female friends
once you show you are a nice guy I'm sure you will start having women throwing themselves at you
right off the bat you said you can't even get a girl who is a6 to be with you
so you are forced to have sex with escorts
no woman is going to want to be with you so they can be your blow up doll
you have an apparent disrespect for women.
I am telling you right now meet some women as just friends and be good to them trust me you're going to start having better luck if you take this advice for what it's worth

Friendship is much more valuable than sex, yet the former is free and the latter costs money.

Crazy, ain't it?

And it's not about weight loss..I won't say more because I'm hung over. Vday does bring out this kind of crazy thinking.  

After all, most women think a guy who can dance is a guy who's good in bed

I'm kind of enjoying crapping on your head

How do you explain the fact that so many smoking hot women have dead beat boyfriends that sponge off of them?

Don't you hate how your natural instincts drive you to the 10s even though there's a shit load of other guys doing the same thing? And when you try not to be shallow and fight the instinct, it makes you feel like shit? Banging a 10 and 1 feels the same but for whatever reason your mind tries to say otherwise.  

LMAO! You are not allowed to go to my school. I suck!

Practice makes perfect though!
I'll keep trying.

the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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Hi Breanna! xoxo

Appreciate the kind words Rod.. I still like to have a glimmer of hope but repeated history of bad experiences with women I have come to accept a sad reality.. I'll never know the experience of ever being married or being a parent or having anyone or any family once my elderly mother passes on.. Outside of a mother, I've never been told by anyone, " I love you" and I'll never experience the meaning of those 3 words by a potential mate.. I will truly face my senior years on my own with no one and no one will give a rat's ass.. Many have said here that the hobby fulfills the need to avoid the dating hassles of today and for some that is true.. For me the hobby can fulfill a need for a few hours but once it's over the emptiness returns and the few hours were just fake anyway...

You don't want a relationship, you don't want to put some effort into changing parts of your life and/or style, you refuse to change anything just to get laid, and your under 40 but fed up with dating... it's too much of a pain in the ass.  SO wtf do want anyone here to do? You clearly don't want to hear what anyone has to say, so here's the simplest answer to your problem... buy a lot of lube, watch a lot of porn, and jack yourself comatose, but stop whining about how hard dating is or how shitty your love life is.  How do you think women feel when a guy like you tells women they should line up for you when you don't feel they're worth the effort of sprucing yourself up a bit?  Maybe I'm not getting the message your trying to send, but what I got from your original message, is that you're a miserable, self-loathing, disrespectful twat.