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Sorry, but.....
lopaw 29 Reviews 277 reads
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"....Totally heterosexual but also digs girls and has been with them before"

Makes her NOT "totally heterosexual", but in fact bisexual.
It's semantics, but that sentence didn't make sense.
Just sayin'.

Carry on.

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y question refers to a situation where a John requests a 3some with his provider and a "100% civie" friend of his.

Like let's assume that I have a lady "friend with benefits," and she wants to do a 3some real bad. Totally heterosexual but also digs girls and has been with them before. But she mostly fucks dudes. And wants real bad to check 3some off her list.

Now let's assume I contact the provider to get her availability.

Then I contact the "friend" again and I give her a date that we can play with my "other bisexual friend." She is totally game for it; totally stoked for it in fact. It's a match!! We have our 3some all set to go.

Finally the question: Does the civie friend need to know that the provider is a professional?  Is that something that just absolutely has to be disclosed? Right now, she's perfectly fine with whomever I want to join, so long as she's pretty and hot. She trusts my judgement and knows the kind of girls I like to fuck. :-) She never gave any sort of explicit directive that she can't be a pro.

Thoughts

The provider is most likely going to want to talk to your friend to validate she's OK with this.  Not saying that every provider is going to take this step, but you should be prepared for the request.

GaGambler316 reads

and if she has been with women before, she is not 100% hetero. Mainly hetero perhaps, 100%? Sorry, that ship has already sailed.

I take it the OP is reconsidering the wisdom of letting his SB know about his hooker and rightfully so. I was going to comment on the earlier thread, but I'll say it here instead. This is a VERY bad idea, your favorite hooker is not going to start giving you all-nighters for $500, what's a lot more likely to happen is that your SB is going to resent the fact that by these new standards she's been getting gipped this whole time.

This is a VERY VERY bad idea, so please go ahead and do it and please report back about how it blew up in your face, just remember not all of us have your best interests at heart when giving advice. Now go out there and create some drama to report back with.

and yes, most providers want to screen a woman they've never met, just as much as a guy. The last thing a hooker wants is having some unsuspecting woman having a threesome sprung on her and freaking out over it.

Like I said, she'll be pissed. Knowing how SBs feel about NOT being called escorts,  why in the world would anyone think it's a good idea to bring the two together it is just dumb.

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All parties involved should be aware of the arrangement. If your FWB had any qualms about seen a professional, then you may lose her if she finds out that you hid something from her, on the other hand she may feel flattered that you are willing to spend money to satisfy her desires, and the ultimate benefit would be if she is willing to split the cost. Who knows, you may end up with a long term hobbying partner,and that would be a sweet deal!

Wishful thinking at best. She'll be pissed.

Sex worker going to make hobbyist happy and get paid.

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JackDunphy225 reads

My sixth year art school type regular hooker would like a word with you. LOL

Why not let your friend with benefits pick a friend of hers? That's what I'm doing. If she is a sexual freak you can be sure she has friends who are game for this and that saves you money. Why pay a pro when you don't have to?

Worse possible outcome your friend finds out you pay for sex what's to stop her from charging you going forward? That minor detail might change the entire dynamic of the relationship with your fuck buddy.

The poster who mentioned your fuck buddy might pay for 1/2 the cost is a pipe dream which most likely will not be happening. I don't know any women who would go for this and I know a ton of women.  
 

Posted By: some-guy
 
 My question refers to a situation where a John requests a 3some with his provider and a "100% civie" friend of his.  
   
 Like let's assume that I have a lady "friend with benefits," and she wants to do a 3some real bad. Totally heterosexual but also digs girls and has been with them before. But she mostly fucks dudes. And wants real bad to check 3some off her list.  
   
 Now let's assume I contact the provider to get her availability.  
   
 Then I contact the "friend" again and I give her a date that we can play with my "other bisexual friend." She is totally game for it; totally stoked for it in fact. It's a match!! We have our 3some all set to go.  
   
 Finally the question: Does the civie friend need to know that the provider is a professional?  Is that something that just absolutely has to be disclosed? Right now, she's perfectly fine with whomever I want to join, so long as she's pretty and hot. She trusts my judgement and knows the kind of girls I like to fuck. :-) She never gave any sort of explicit directive that she can't be a pro.  
   
 Thoughts?  
 

for a 3some is that the women like each other and are really BI. Surprises can really be a disaster.

The last threesome I had, the woman didn't to uh each other at all and one hardly touched me... Disaster with a big D.  

Posted By: cooper80
for a 3some is that the women like each other and are really BI. Surprises can really be a disaster.

Your friend has a right to make her own decision as to whether she wants to accept the risks (real and/or perceived) in consorting with a provider. She also has a right to make her own moral judgments as to whether to play with a provider

"....Totally heterosexual but also digs girls and has been with them before"

Makes her NOT "totally heterosexual", but in fact bisexual.
It's semantics, but that sentence didn't make sense.
Just sayin'.

Carry on.

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FatVern225 reads

Have you never had a sexual experience involving a penis?  

If you answer yes, I guess you aren't a lesbian and are in fact bisexual.

... and if you've never been fucked by a dick, what made you become a lesbian?  

Posted By: lopaw
"....Totally heterosexual but also digs girls and has been with them before"  
   
 Makes her NOT "totally heterosexual", but in fact bisexual.  
 It's semantics, but that sentence didn't make sense.  
 Just sayin'.  
   
 Carry on.

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Yes I've fucked dicks before, decided it was something that I didn't care for. Unlike the OP's situation, I don't "dig guys" and continue to fuck them, so I am indeed a lesbian, NOT bisexual. Plenty of people try things that they decide that they don't like and never do again. It doesn't make them a member of that team

FatVern211 reads

... so were you a lesbian when you fucked those dicks?

You must of been on team hetero, if you was. Since you "decided" to try men.  

 

Posted By: lopaw
Yes I've fucked dicks before, decided it was something that I didn't care for. Unlike the OP's situation, I don't "dig guys" and continue to fuck them, so I am indeed a lesbian, NOT bisexual. Plenty of people try things that they decide that they don't like and never do again. It doesn't make them a member of that team.  
 

I have a different definition of these kinds of things.

I only consider a girl bisexual if she has dated other girls or has been in a relationship with one.

Otherwise, I just consider her "curious." I realize that might be an odd criteria or way of defining things. But it's how I've grown to look at it over the years, considering the sheer number of women I know who are what I would call curious.

Yeah we definitely disagree about that.

A person's sexuality is defined by what they are physically (and emotionally) attracted to - not necessarily who they choose to date. So if a girl (or guy) is a sexually attracted to both sexes, they are basically bisexual, regardless if they choose to date or marry someone of the same or opposite sex.

We're talking purely sexual attraction- not who they want to settle down with.

Of course everybody has their own interpretation of these types of things, though I must admit that yours is very odd indeed.

GaGambler212 reads

If she has "tried it, liked it and wants to do it again" she is most definitely bi sexual, every bit as much as I am "buy sexual" lol

Now if she tried it, didn't like it and has no intentions of ever doing it again, that would be like you in reverse and I would say she was heterosexual, just like someone like you who is not the least bit attracted to men are most definitely a lesbian, notwithstanding any comments from our village idiot and SPOTY frontrunner

FatVern229 reads

... or would they be bi sexual?  

Posted By: GaGambler
If she has "tried it, liked it and wants to do it again" she is most definitely bi sexual, every bit as much as I am "buy sexual" lol  
   
 Now if she tried it, didn't like it and has no intentions of ever doing it again, that would be like you in reverse and I would say she was heterosexual, just like someone like you who is not the least bit attracted to men are most definitely a lesbian, notwithstanding any comments from our village idiot and SPOTY frontrunner

here are about 20 million shades of gay.

There needs to be a different classification for a girl who is mostly straight, dates only guys, but occasionally dabbles with the ladies when she's feeling particularly daring or adventurous ... or perhaps a girl who only plays within the context of a three-some.

Because that girl is clearly different than a bisexual who dates (perhaps even marries) bull dykes one minute and then dumps them for Johnny Depp the next minute. :-)  

One is clearly BI, while the other is clearly a hetero 99% of the time, and thus doesn't have nearly enough gay in her to be in the same class as the other. What that classification is, I don't know. But my observation has been that there is a clear distinction between the BI who is only BI in her spare time for fun ... and the girl who is BI in her regular, daily life; i.e. in her choice of romantic relationships

GaGambler248 reads

and that's where I took issue with you. Yes there should be another term, but until someone coins one, a woman who "also digs girls and has been with them before" is bisexual, and is most definitely NOT "totally heterosexual" Don't blame me for your own poor use of the English language.

BTW, when I referred to the village idiot and SPOTY frontrunner, it was FatVern I was talking about, not you. I just wanted to clear that up if there was any misunderstanding about what I meant. You are guilty of using poor word choices, but nothing rising to SPOTY levels.

Now what would you call a guy who occasionally sucked dick? In my book, he would be gay. IF he also saw women and even if he saw 99 women to every one man, he'd still be gay or at least bi in most people's book, wouldn't he?

mean ... the fate of mankind most certainly hangs in the balance until we get this all hashed out, right?

Millions of ambiguously part-time moonlighting gays have no idea what terminology should be used to describe them

JackDunphy270 reads

Def NOT cool. If she's that close of a friend, just tell her.  

And +1 to what LoJack said.

She is 100% accurate with her comments and nothing to add.

DO NOT tell your friend that you're involving a provider...the fact that you're willing to pay for it (and know exactly where and how to look for it) may not sit well with her at all and her whole perception of you may change drastically.....you may never hear from her again and I hope that you don't have any mutual friends that she may tell....

 
Best advice I've seen so far:  LET HER PICK THE OTHER PERSON....that guarantees that she'll be comfortable..from a girl's point of view, threesomes work best when the girls are already friends....

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