There's a young lady who has fantastic reviews here on TER. I'll be seeing her in two weeks.

Personally, I really don't understand the reason for a gift or tipping.  The women set their own fee based on what they believe their time to be worth balanced against the risk of driving off customers.  If they feel as if they should get more for their services, then they would simply charge more.  This isn't the case of a typical service industry job, where the pay is far below what the service is worth and the server has no ability to adjust that.

No, wine and chocolates go hand in hand, and being you did not actually go out and buy the chocolates, it's not overkill. I would assume you will share them.

and you could always tell her, the wine is for the two of you to share, and the chocalates are simply a gift for her.

I am not really much for bringing hookers gifts, but I do bring a bottle of wine to some that I know will appreciate it.

I would think that an envelope stuffed with cash would be enough. You are fucking her, not romancing her. Safe the gift for someone who cares, or that you care about unless you have no one.

The chocolates aren't going to make her fat on the spot, that will be someone else's problem way on down the road. lmao

There is of course a fine line between getting a woman tipsy and flat out drunk. I remember a chica that I've seen a dozen times or more in both Panama and Costa Rica. We've gotten shitfaced drunk four times together, twice it led to her virtually raping me with some of the most passionate sex I have ever had in or out of the hobby. The other two times it led to no sex at all, with her passed out and/or puking her guts out.

Re: You can keep the wine. Send me the chocolates... [e]

In almost every review of this provider, it was mentioned that the provider and client shared a glass of chardonnay, chatted, and then the fun started. It was mentioned frequently that she liked a particular type of wine. Nobody said drunk (I had that with my ex-wife, so no thanks).

Bringing hookers gifts is something I just won't subscribe to....but others want to make believe that this is some sort of dating site.

it sounds lovely. She's a lucky lady whomever she is. Not so much for the 'gifts' themselves, but how you clearly went out of your way in your thought process and in considering her in addition to your time together. Going the extra mile for anything doesn't typically happen in this world or the real world, so anytime one does anymore is indeed a special thing.  

And if you find one, try looking a little closer if you spot any adam's apple

I love you babe but we will disagree on that one whole-heartedly. Muah

But sincere on that.

Posted By: viptaylorsteele

I love you babe but we will disagree on that one whole-heartedly. Muah

LOL...well of course babe no reason to bring anything, but the fact that he is, you have to admit is a sweet gesture, even you have to admit that. Yes I know you're thought process all too well sir and yes most of us understand 'etiquette'. As mine is typically not OTC, but more or less I don't 'stare' at the clock when I'm with someone. Take it how you will. It all meshes together in one or another.  

Not overkill, imo.
A gift in the 100s range for a first date is more of overkill than something under 100.

Too many hookers complain about mangina johnnie showing up with balloons, flowers and assorted other shit that is quite conspicuous when leaving a hotel.  And many of those bottles of wine end up being left for housekeeping as well.

Posted By: viptaylorsteele

LOL...well of course babe no reason to bring anything, but the fact that he is, you have to admit is a sweet gesture, even you have to admit that. Yes I know you're thought process all too well sir and yes most of us understand 'etiquette'. As mine is typically not OTC, but more or less I don't 'stare' at the clock when I'm with someone. Take it how you will. It all meshes together in one or another.  
   
 Are you paying me to spread my legs..NOOOOOO, you're paying me for my amazing banter and cute smile as we spend 'quality time' together Who are you kidding mister LOL

We are paying for sex.

I can get the same banter and cute smile from any bartender or waitress for free if that is all I was interested in.

If you disagree try telling your next "date" that for his thousand bucks all he is going to get is a "cute smile and some amazing banter" and see how that works out for you.

There's one closer to me...but I was at one in an upscale burb that has absolutely the most adorable little hotties running around serving food and drink.

And you will most certainly stand out in her mind for having paid attention. That's priceless!  

Saw my friend last week stopped by the mall on the way to buy a gift, It was hour before it opened so I waited. guess that lets you know what I think about gift's, I like giving them.

See, that's where the contradictions come out for some people. You can find a gal to show up, fk you, and leave for 100 bucks, or you can pay 1500 for one who does that exact same thing but tosses you a bottle of water lol.  

And even then some never really do.  The number of posts from experienced johns happy to pay for idle chit chat is staggering to me...and reeks of incredible loneliness.  I guess I can understand that...but plenty of people out there to simply befriend and chat with for nothing.

is the fact that the "Johnnie boys" that see them are too ashamed to admit that they got fucked out of their money, and not in the good way.

and not to kiss London's ass, (her head is big enough as it is) but what she offers and her price point are certainly in line, no matter how artfully she disguises her OTC time, and this is coming from someone who almost always books for only a single hour.

Now I hardly ever do, though ironically I did just yesterday because it was my first time with her and I'd learned what she likes.  But I've been in girls' room enough times to see how many bottles of wine are stashed there.  More than they can possibly use, and most of it is shit.  My guess is it ends up being left for the maid.  Why bother, unless she's made it clear what she likes?
I think a full envelope, and a clean, respectful client is all most girls want.

You don't want to be seen in public with. It can be just that simple.

Right, and try telling it to LE, too, and see how far it gets you.  "Why officer, he was only paying to spend time with me because of my delightful banter.  The sex part was free, because I simply found him so incredibly sexy!"  LMAO!

Amazing how that shitstorm goes...and it's all so predictable.  The HDH's that never cry about anything....don't publicly create drama...don't shit on the boys back channel....those are ones that I would have no problem seeing.  But alas...many are fucking drama queens and will and have gone to great lengths to protect their TER rankings.

I see the value in what London et al offers. Three or four hours together, with a couple of BCD hours is worth the seven or eight hundred bucks that she charges. It must be, because even though she is a blabbermouth with a tiny vag, she still manage to get some pretty high scores for a self described bitch. lol

No offense to Taylor, (well ok, maybe a bit) but I would never dream of paying her $1,000 2 hour rate, I would immediately skip right past her ad, even if I suddenly became attracted to women in their forties, she seems to think that the two hours should be spent fawning over her, and that's just not what I am looking for. London OTOH with all the little extras that she throws into her dates would make me feel like I got value for my money and that what it's all about. A guy should be happy with the experience, not feeling like he just got taken advantage or.

My last GF and I used to drink all the booze that her clients would bring, she never mentioned that that's where they came from, but there was always wine at her place, and most of the time if there were six bottles, every one of them were different, so I know she wasn't buying them and I wasn't buying them, so it was pretty obvious where they came from.

What you or I may consider a real deal...others would rather see a hooker that charges double or triple what we would consider "normal"...and be thrilled with that.

about herself, and one half hour of sex. The other half hour would be spent with me bolting early. I think I could get along with London though. She seems more down to earth.

to be seen with the likes of Ridgetucky, or Udon't on your arm? lmao

I think even a favorable review by the likes of Udon't or SDIQ could be a kiss of death to a lady's business.

Two to three hours can help with your "performance anxiety" and I don't think a bottle of wine and a box of chocolates is really going "over the top" gift wise.

I dont' know if sharing the wine will help or hurt in the anxiety department, only you can be the judge of that. One other thing you might want to consider if you are still having performance problems with a young hottie. Some guys are intimidated by a hottie, thirty years younger than them. You might want to try an older, little more ordinary looking woman if that's the case. I hear it works for some guys, truth be told, it has the opposite effect on me. I like em young and tight, but this isn't about me.

Good Luck.

Just like the multiple "O's" we all have with every client.

Where the fuck do you live, you poor bastard?  (No, don't tell me).  No wonder you play so infrequently.  Look, I'm spoiled because I live in the NYC area and there is primo pussy all over the place.  I never have to drive more than an hour and usually half that.
Perhaps you need to consider moving.  To me, being closer to pussy is a worthwhile reason.
PS: I am six months past my second divorce, too!  Congratulations!  And best of luck to you.  You seem like a good guy.

I don't need it.  Can you put me on the London Rayne Economy Plan?  I'll find my way to your door. Spare me the booze, bottled water, cheese plate and "cold meats."  Don't act like a GF, just act like a ho.  Give me your primo BBBJ and let me put the first six inches of my Anaconda into your Teeny Twat.  Charge me one third of your regular rate, and we're good.  Normally, I'd require cramming my entire love shaft into you....but I like you and will settle for only partially fucking the Infamous London Rayne.  Plus I fucking love Nawlins.  I'll even take you to Clancy's for dinner.  One of my favorite Uptown eateries. And since I will have been gentle, you'll be able to sit down while you eat!

save yourself a ton of money and go to Latin America. Delta has 2 non stops a day from Atlanta to San Jose, Costa Rica, and daily non stops to Panama City, Panama, Liberia Costa Rica, Bogota Colombia, and a dozen different Islands in the Carribean.

For a fraction of the cost of going to Vegas, and about the same ease of travel, fuck Vegas, Head south my friend. Your dick will thank you.

In the meantime, Atlanta is a great hobby city. I think you will find just as many choices at barely half the price point of Las Vegas.

And very good. And the weirdest thing for me is, there does not have to any attraction whatsoever. A good imagination and the right type of friction and kapow!.

...read and hear about other places I'm so glad I'm in Atlanta.

You got it, Inicky. A Bj and dinner, no sex lol.

Ah.....the Udo approach! (minus the dinner, of course!).

Can I ask what you mean by BCD? Googling brings up the acronym definition "behind closed doors" but I don't understand what that entails.

I brought a couple I saw a box of chocolates from a great local shop to break the ice.