I have been on this site for years and, while I have only submitted about 20 or so reviews, I think they have all been denied the first time around. The thing is, they are always denied on some kind of technicality. For example, in my last review, it was denied because I tried to give her a 10 for performance, but I had not clicked enough "extras" for her to earn a 10. I realize (and appreciate) the moderators maintaining quality in the reviews (although, I have to admit, sometimes I read reviews and think "this review made it through, but mine was denied?), but I think, sometimes, it is just tiring. There has to be an easier way to do this than submit, resubmit, resubmit, etc.  

For example, if the mods have a rule that says the provider can only get a certain score based on the number of extras ticked off, that rule should be applied before you submit - simple rule/condition checking on the review input page would vastly increase the number of first time accepts and save everyone's time. This is a pretty simple tech request - I am a web developer and would not create a form page without basic constraint checking.  

Anyway, hope the re-submit makes it through!

The rules are not complicated. They are all spelled out on the "submit a review" page before you actually click on to the next page to fill out the form.

I see this complaint often, yet every review I have submitted was accepted the first time, and I know that's true for tons of other reviewers. I think it is just laziness. People complain becausr they have to fill out the profile (which is actually pretty simple to do). They complain because their reviews got rejected for not following the rules, when it would have been so much easier to follow the rules in the first place.


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I mean, he's a mountain man from Alaska... He's used to wrestling bears, not writing reviews... plus it looks like he struggles with math as well... He says he has only submitted 20 reviews when it shows over 44 by his handle.

...are already checked off on her profile when you submit the review. Her first reviewer sets her profile. It stays as he set it until someone files a Problem Report to change it or correct it. The provider can file a problem report or any TER member (you for instance) with evidence can file a report.  

If you can find evidence in her other reviews of extras she provides that are not checked off on her profile file a Problem Report to get the profile changed then submit your review with the appropriate score and it should be approved.  

I like perfectstorm have never had a review rejected.

If the OP always has his rejected at first it's because he is doing something wrong.  Over and over again.  And TER usually gives you a reason, and always does if you follow up and ask them why.
Like the man said, "Doing the same thing over and over, while expecting a different result is the definition of insanity."

...due to a mod's incorrect assumption that girls could not submit reviews. Ever since then its been smooth sailing.

Good luck, MtnManAK.....dont worry - you'll get there

These guys come from Europe.. They can't speak real English.
Hehehehehehee.

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The problem is your own reading comprehension.  The review guidelines specifically state re the General Details, "At this point, do not mention specific sexual acts or price; just give the members a tease." When you said "head game" you mentioned a specific act.  They knew what you meant.  You just can't read.

Has happened to me a couple of times, but here are some rules I like to stick by. Only mention the bare necessities in the general details box, how you made contact, general description of her looks, whether it was easy or hard to set an appointment, and whether or not you recommend her.  At no time should you mention another competitive website if you saw her ad there.  Rules are specific on TER when it comes to performance, even if she's the hottest looking woman in the world but only does covered head then you can't give above a 7 or so.  Also review can't be over 3 months old.  As long as you stick to their criteria you shouldn't have a problem, hopefully.  

No, I don't think so. And, as the OP says, there is no automated checking. I've seen non-GFE AMP accepted and published reviews with 9s and 10s for performance and that's not possible for the non-GFE AMP girls. It's a Mod that screwed up and let it through.

It would be EASY to automate auto-population of most of the basic review fields by selecting a Provider's TER ID.  

It could be possible to automate a maximum value for performance, as long as there could be some agreement on the meaning of some terms (YMMV?).  

It should be possible to have more than one entry for Fee of the same type (or maybe they just need a new category?). In NYC, you can get "Escort Incall 200" for non-GFE FS and "Escort Incall 300" for GFE FS from the same provider.  TER Admin told me that you can't have two values for the same service.  

Let's start with auto-populate and and hope that the Mods get more consistent.

the review. Some get denied for trivial shit that I've seen in other "approved" reviews and some sail thru ... who knows?

Agree with you. This is not rocket science. I have over a 100 reviews and I have only had 2 rejected (approved after resubmitting) and they were initially rejected because  I had too much detail in the first teaser section and I accidently mentioned the type of car a provider drove when she took me out after we finished our session. I omitted those details and my reviews were approved. It didn't even effect the score.  

 TER is more than fair if you follow their guidelines for submitting a review

 Hey Lopaw when you joining the reviewers only board?

..exactly correct.

You are correct there is no automated checking. TER bases everything (mistakes and inconsistencies by TER admin not withstanding) on the profile as it existed before the reviewer (in this case the OP) clicked anything to fill out the form.

I agree it would be easy to auto populate the fields. It's been suggested possibly more than anything else on this site.

Yes regarding the below statement it seems TER does need some adjustment and while it's interesting it isn't specific to the OP.
"It should be possible to have more than one entry for Fee of the same type (or maybe they just need a new category?). In NYC, you can get "Escort Incall 200" for non-GFE FS and "Escort Incall 300" for GFE FS from the same provider.  TER Admin told me that you can't have two values for the same service."  

The OP said he had to change the rating because "I tried to give her a 10 for performance, but I had not clicked enough "extras" for her to earn a 10." My point was it wasn't what he had clicked that mattered. It was what had already been clicked by the first reviewer (and/or any problems reports subsequently filed) before he began the review process.  

What I said: "It isn't how many extras you checked off it's how many extras ... are already checked off on her profile when you submit the review. Her first reviewer sets her profile." may not have been clear that whatever the profile said before he filled out the form is what mattered.  

I'll try to be more precise by saying the extras he clicked had no bearing on what rating she qualified for. The ratings she qualifies for are based on what her profile said before he ever clicked anything.  

Regarding TER inconsistencies those are well known.

...the covered blowjob is performance. She could still get a 10 in performance according to TER if she did anal, kissed with tongue and was either really bi or into two guys at the same time.

I won't get into a discussion of whether she deserves a 10 in performance if she does a covered blow job I'm just saying by TER guidelines it's possible.

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I think we both (we ALL) agree that the manual checking is inconsistent and the checkers make mistakes.  But here's an example of what I mean.  

- non-GFE FS Profile with all the limits: BJ - covered; Kiss - no tongue; Anal - no; and other limits; performance max should be a 7.

- New review by a very happy reviewer: CBJ, regular kissing; no FIV; nothing extra, ... but he gives a 9 or 10 out of overexuberance.  And it gets approved; clearly a mistake; but it happens. (I've Problem Reported some of those.)

Another example:

The Profile has a theoretical Max of 7, but the reviewer got lots of new offerings (BBBJ, DFK, whatever it takes), he can give a 9 or 10.  If it gets rejected, he can resubmit arguing with the reviewer, insist or "report" that he did indeed get those services and maybe even change the Profile (either Yes or maybe YMMV).  THe thing is, I've seen Profiles with a 7-Max and Performance Reviews with 9s and 10s.  If the juicy details merit a 9-10, I leave it alone

I had one review rejected because the admin said I did not provide enough details on the physical aspect of our time together. Fair enough, I re-wrote it and it got accepted the second time around. What pissed me off is that I see other reviews where people offer even less details and it gets accepted and goes live!

I hear so many complaints about this I would say 8 out of 10 have a issue with this and end up posting on another site somewhere: (

Things slip through the cracks sometimes, and also there's different staff with different interpretations.

The complaints from the idiots who can't figure out how to follow simple rules, not the thousands of guys who have no problems.

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I had my first one rejected because they said ishould tell what made her BJ different or special. It took the two days to get that far. Added two lines to the first part and three to the main narrative without doing anything I out the BJand it went up in ten min.
Other review that got rejected I gave a higher performance score than she as had before and they said she did not qualify due to the point system.  
Went to contact us and point out the two items in profile that allowed he 9 and where they were in my narrative and was approved. Get out of their guarded domain and you will need to substantiate
I do wish I communication not just rules they would say what guideline you have not followed rather than needs to follow guidelines/  
Over all though since joining P-411 - and TER and using them to help me decide on the posting I that other site have not had any bad experiences in the hobby.

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I wasn't trying to say that she couldn't get a 10 in performance per say, I was more insinuating that some guys are so stricken by looks that they give 10s in the performance department without actually grading performance.  Of course a providers can only allow CBJ but still do Greek and get 10  etc. my mistake in wording.

I'd never written one before but the lovely lady I saw last specifically requested it, so I said I'd give it a try.   After reading so many comments like the OP I expected the process to be more tricky.
Well, it wasn't at all...it was accepted the very next day!  

 
 

Okay, so for all of you review ninjas out there (and clearly my lack of math skills), I still can't figure out how you determine the top limit a provider can get when you are actually writing the review? Where am I supposed to find that information? In the current review I am writing (which got disapproved again , even though I changed it to exactly what they told me to - have written the TER team to ask why they disapproved this time, but, as of right now, they have not responded with any clarification), I tried to give her a 10 for performance (she literally ticked off every box you could check on the list of extras), but they said she topped out at a 9. How would I know that when I am writing the review? I genuinely would like to know - it would definitely help if I knew what scores I was limited to. Do you all just never give out high scores in order to ensure the reviews get approved?  

If this isn't rocket science, it must be some kind of quantum mechanics, because I can't figure out which reality the scores belong to...

We are not obligated to post any review.

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...7 unless the provider offers one of the 5 extra services that qualify her for a higher rating. She can be given one point per extra service. The highest possible score is 10. Since there are 5 extra services that qualify her for a rating higher than 7 all she has to offer is 3 of them and a 10 rating becomes possible.

The provider doesn't have to actually perform any of those extras with you during the session but because she offers them you could rate her higher than 7.

Ex: Provider X's profile says she will kiss with tongue and do a bbbj. It says she won't do anal, she isn't really Bi, and she won't do more than one guy. She can get one point for the kissing with tongue and one for the bbbj. Those two items added to her performance rating of 7 qualify her for a 9. She can't get a 10 in performance no matter how awesome she is.  

(Whether that's a good thing or not is another discussion for another time.)
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Here is the section from the FAQ's on this subject:
"An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum.

This does not mean she earns extra points for offering these service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score.

If your review rates a provider higher than her maximum score, the score will be adjusted down to her maximum."

(Yes, I know the quote above only lists 4 extra services. The fifth one is more than one guy at a time. It's stated in the FAQ paragraph above this one. It's also stated in the last section of the Review FAQ's titled "What are the guidelines for submitting a review". You can find it if you go read the Review FAQ's.  

(I've gone around and around with TER about this inconsistency.)

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TER will use the provider's profile to determine whether she qualifies for the score you assigned her in your review. They look at what the profile says before you wrote and submitted you review. They don't look at the services you checked off when you filled out the review form. They look at what was checked off before you.

The above is in regard to a provider that has a profile and reviews.  

If the provider performed something for you that was not checked off on her profile you need to use the report a problem (the button is on her profile) and have her profile changed/corrected to show she does offer it. You will need to show evidence that she also performed it with others by finding it in her other reviews and pointing it out to TER. If you can't support it with evidence they probably won't make the change and you won't be able to use it in rating her.

Now we come to writing a review for a provider with no TER reviews. TER has nothing to go by but the profile you fill out and the details you write. If you check that she will perform anal intercourse but in the juicy details you don't state she did it for you during the session TER may not allow that to be shown on her profile. If you gave her a score that reflected the anal intercourse TER will likely reduce the rating you gave her (or reject it and have you correct it) because your details don't match the profile you filled out on her. If the review you wrote that TER keeps requiring you to change the rating on is for a new provider without any TER reviews or a profile this could explain the problem you're having.

I was the first reviewer of an agency provider. I stated on her profile that she would do more than one guy at a time. However that didn't happen in my session with her as I was the only male present. (I knew she would do two guys because I asked her about those kinds of things.) TER would not allow that to remain on her profile.

I think we could help you more if you told us what her profile says (does she or doesn't she) about the 5 extra services she offers and which of them she did with you. We could then easily determine what rating she qualifies for. You could link to her profile but it's not necessary.

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Awesome explanation, thanks!  

In the case of the review I was trying to get approved, I finally got the numbers to match the guidelines and the mods approved it.

In this case, she was only listed as doing BBBJ and Kiss with Tongue, but had "no" listed for greek, Bi and multiple guys. In her case, she clearly does greek and it is an option on her site (and I enjoyed that service as well), so I did submit a problem report once I read your explanation. Hopefully her profile can get updated because she is one of those rare providers that really does have a full menu and looks like a super model.

Now that I understand how they calculate the top score, it will be easier for me to get it right on the first try, although I still think they could easily implement a tech solution to fix the issue when writing the review. Even if they didn't constrain the pull down, there could be a note next to the performance box that says something like "the maximum performance score this provider can receive is X"

Thanks for taking the time to spell it out, that was helpful and I am sure other people will have the same question.