the rest just went through the motions. These two TRULY make it all about me.

and they live with me

For me, if we can make it through three dates and she's not sick of me and I'm still interested, she's a keeper (unless she dumps my ass like SkinnyMinnie).  IMHO, up to three dates, you are still feeling you way, but after the third date I usually know whether I ever want to see her again.

So I have 2 ATFs and 22 keepers out of 39 total woman this year.  Is that a good ratio?  Who knows, but it does give me at least one in every major city I visit, so it works for me. The ATFs like to travel, so they can pinch hit in a new city or if a regular is traveling or out of commission.

These days, I tap one ass, and move on to the next, even if the provider exceeded my expectations. I don't do ATF's no more, its just no use. I posted a thread a while ago. It stated that the service seems to lack after the 4th or 5th visits for ATF, and I ask, why that may be. I use to see a single provider multiple times, but have change. I just get board these days real quick, even if she exceeded my expectations.

However, If I will repeat, she has to be truly nasty, filthy in the mind and performance, some1 that I can fuck once and be satisfied for a month. I just don't want to make love no more these days. I just want to fuck, and fuck real good with nasty and filthy providers that are filled with lustful desires.

Another thing, if I do repeat, it will only take the second time to determine if I will go back. The first time, they will be on their best performance, but the second time is when they get too comfortable. If I am still intrigued and like the performance, I hit that a third time. But, for me to have a second or third time, she has to have many tricks up her sleeves to show me, and wow me. Guess, I have become a freak in the sheets.

if you are able to get a real sense of how "truly nasty, filthy in mind and performance" a girl can be in the first visit.  Unless you're much more assertive than most (generally respectful) clients are willing to risk being on a first visit, "truly nasty filth" can sometimes take more than one date to come out.  

I can get nasty with the best of them, and I have submissive side that really loves some "nasty, filthy" play.  I am turned on by activities that I know other providers will not tolerate.  But I'm a dichotomy - my appearance and demeanor are VERY girl next door, and I attract professional men who are attracted to my GND side, not my trashy side.  So that's how I market myself, and I do really enjoy the connections I've established with my GFE clients.  

So, especially on a first visit, I follow the lead of the client - if I sense that he is looking for vanilla GFE, then I am more than happy to provide that, and I will enjoy it.  But if that client has a secret "dark" side that he wants to explore more, I'm definitely game.  But lots of guys are afraid to go there at first because they're afraid of the girl's reaction.  So sometimes - not always, but often - it can take 2 or 3 dates before a comfort level is established that allows the extent of the nastiness to be discovered.  

Or do you just go for it, and see how she'll react?  Or do you see girls who just put it out there initially? Or are there things you look for on a girl's website?....

This was the first lady I ever met in this game, and it's been a fun ride with her, overall, for the past seven years.  And there are always new chapters in this ongoing saga...

There have been a couple of others that occupied an almost equal position, but both have dropped out of the game, so it's questionable at beat whether I will ever see them again.  There is a third that I haven't seen in person for awhile, though we keep in touch.  As for other friends in my outer circle, when our orbits intersect...   And, last but not least, there is another lady I have seen a couple of times recently whom I will see whenever I can, but we live thousands of miles apart, so that may not happen as often as I would like.  

As for my to-do list, there is one at the top of that list, and many others that I would see in a NY minute.

8 plus inches and extra thick lol  (Just Kidding)

You are right: you as a provider have to make a determination as to what the hobbyist are looking for, you have to sense what he likes. For me, I do usually play the "vanilla GFE" role, but I am looking for a response from the provider. She has to "show me, and wow me", meaning: she has to take the initiative to move beyond the vanilla GFE. I can get the vanilla GFE from most providers. But, what makes a provider stand out, what is it that she does that I will remember. I want to leave the experience thinking, damn, that was filthy as hell, I gonna come back and fuck that some more.

Sure, it can take 2 or 3 dates for this side to come out: a comfort level had to be establish. Again, as a provider, it should be out on the first date. No hobbyist will mind if it comes out on the first date. Honesty, it will not scare hobbyist away, it will only boost their confidence with you knowing that this is the type of service you provide.

When I "just go for it", I too also try to sense what the provider may be feeling, and her level of expectations. Sometimes, when she doesn't allow, then I play the vanilla role. If she does allow, then its game on. With some providers, before I even see them, I can have a sense of how filthy they can be. When I get their, their level of filthiness exceeded my expectations, and I am just drench in level of nastiness. I don't usually make determinations of the looks alone, but, I try to judge the providers physical appearances, most radiate filthy desires. Another factor, of course I check the reviews, and look at the type of services she provide. Hope I was helpful to clarifying myself.

a more complete and total moron on these boards.  Though it seems some1 must be moreso than you, no1 is....they're just not.

"I just don't want to make love no more these days."  That's penned so beautifully....

You are wrong some guy just want vanilla and anything more will cause them to move on. For example I rarely will book a provider that offers rimming or anal as I am totally not into that scene. The trust is not there for me to be willing to do more then the basics. If she tries to go beyond the basics, I will move on. If she is pushes me at at all about anything I am not comfortable with I will leave mid session.

If her clients are into vanilla and she pushes extra kink it will scare some. She is very right she could scare away some guys by being too nasty. I am one of them. She provides what her most client wants. Not every guy wants what you want. Please don't speak for us all.

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