I just finished a session with a provider where something kind of unfortunate (for me) occurred.  I would be interested in anyone’s opinion on what, if anything, to do about it.

This girl was a visiting provider, who works for an agency.  Several providers from this agency have been reviewed by local members of TER, and the reviews have been, without exception, very positive, including for the provider in question.   As predicted, the session progressed excellently.  She was a true GFE: a beautiful girl, who was active and willing.  In fact, I had such a good time that the session seemed to end all too quickly, even though I ran over about 10 minutes.

Returning to my car, I took a casual look at my cell phone, and found out that it was only 50 minutes past the hour!   Apparently, this provider had moved her hotel clock forward at least 25 minutes, meaning that my one hour session had only lasted ~45 minutes! Surprisingly, I didn’t think of running back up to her room, and taking 1/4 of my donation back.  

So, I’m thinking about what I might do in response:

1) I could do nothing, and chalk it up to experience.  One thing’s for sure, I’ll definitely wear my watch next time.

2) I could contact the agency and let them know what happened.  I might threaten to write up a review detailing their shoddy service, unless I get some kind of satisfaction.  One question, could this possibly work?  Has anyone tried to do this, and been accommodated?  Also, what could be demanded?  Presumably, a discounted, or extended session?   A couple of drawbacks to this:  1) the fine people reading TER would not be apprised of the potential pitfalls of working with this agency/provider (assuming I got what I asked for), and 2) I might not be able to make appointments with any of the other providers (all highly rated) that this agency has.

3) I could simply write a review in TER, and have done with it.


I’m kind of leaning towards option two.  First of all, maybe it’s only the provider to blame, not the agency.  Why publicly besmirch the reputation of the agency based on one girl’s behavior?  As for not being able to book any of the other ladies at the agency, there are plenty of fish in the sea – no big loss.  Although I did have my eye on the really fine looking one with green eyes…she’s due in next week, I think…..

Threatening an agency will only get you black-listed.  Write a truthful and non-emotional review and let it go.

Agencies are not indies, and many of them make their girls watch the clock very closely.  If you dont like that deal, there are a lot of really hot indies out there and some barely watch the clock.

Setting the clock ahead prob wasnt even her idea.  I'm actually almost shocked you are inclined to blame her and let the agency off the hook.  In my experience that is NOT the way this deal works.  

I would chalk this one up to experience; live and learn.

Pls dont write a negative review; it will hurt her more than the agency and it sounds like you had a good time.

You can call the agency, but simply ask if this is policy and make it clear you are just calling to clear up any misunderstanding on your part.

Don't expect anything, just be nice and ask for clarification.  If it is an agency problem, they will blow you off, if it is a girl problem, they may accommodate you, but don't EXPECT anything.

Also, do not hold the review over their head.  If they are accommodating, state so in your review, if not, also state that in your review.

Don't threaten to write a bad review or promise a good review for accommodation!  That will lead to nothing but trouble.

In my experience, a lot of girls set their clocks ahead, although not as much as yours evidently did.   I rely on my own watch--in part because my eyes are not good enough to see the clock on the table and I like to look at the time discreetly.

I would chalk it up to experience, keep a watch on, and let it go.

I would chalk this up to experience and make sure you have on a watch next time if that is important to you.  My view is that there is a logical end to the session.  I often leave a few minutes early if the session is effectively over.  Just as I don't like the provider to watch the clock, I don't either just to get a "full session" in.
Also how do you know that she set the clock ahead.  Hotel clocks are used by guests who don't know how to set the alarm and probably mess up the clock's time.

If you had an excellent time, and the worst that's ever happened to you in the hobby is losing 15 minutes, consider yourself the LUCKIEST S.O.B. on the planet.

I got robbed by a provider once, had a provider's Husband threaten to shoot me with a shotgun, and had one that called herself Full Service, but would only jerk me off with an industrial grade glove.  I had one that puked all over too...  

Move on Bro!

I have to admit I never check the clock at the hotel when I check in. I had an issue recently where we thought we had run over by an hour bevause of the clock. A quick check of watches made us realize it wasnt true. So please don't think we do this to get you out early, I personal dont check the hotel clock.
Kisss

...unless you saw her move it ahead AFTER you got there! An hour is an hour on the SAME CLOCK. And besides, I have yet to see an accurate hotel clock anywhere. And if she was that active and willing, why are you so quick to assume the worst about her?

The provider accused me of being late for our appointment and pointed at the hotel clock on the nightstand.  That clock was fast IMO.  I never believed, however, that she had set it forward.  I think she believed that was the correct time.  What was more messed up was that she literally told me she's in a rush because her agency had hard-scheduled her next appointment up against the end of my appointment.  Therefore I didn't get my hour, regardless of what time was on the clock.

I later emailed the agency which blamed only the girl and not itself but offered me a discount with the head of the agency on a next visit.  I replied that it was just as much the fault of the agency.  I then put it all in my review.

Just to clarify:  I generally have a habit of looking at the clock sometime late into the session, just to know how much time I have left to do whatever it is that I would like us to do.  (OMG, I guess I'm a clockwatcher!).  I didn't even look at the clock when I first came in, or until fairly late in the session, so it wouldn't require altering the clock while I was there.  You're right, I guess I was stupid relying on a hotel clock.  I don't really assume the worst about her, overall she seemed like a nice person.  I wrote my e-mail right after the session, and its tenor reflects my disappointment that it didn't last longer, since I was having a good time.  But, you have to admit that it seems a little fishy.  You would think someone who is in a hotel room for significant hours of the day, has access to her cell phone, and has clients that usually arrive at least on the half hour, would have noticed this.  I don't know, maybe she's puzzled by the fact that Americans are habitually late.  In any case, I am not really that mad.  In fact, I would probably see her again - but with a watch.

Part of my disappointment was that the appointment didn't reach its logical end(from my point of view).  I remember being amazed how quickly the time had passed, and that being my only disappointment with our time together.  You're right, I don't know that she actually moved the clock, but it still does seem likely, in retrospect.  I definitely learned something for future reference, though, about managing time.

Assuming that it wasn't just a poorly set hotel clock, I guess I would blame her since I don't see what advantage the agency would get out it.  They can't rely on most people being as stupid as I was, so they couldn't base any scheduling on an event that maybe happens only rarely. On the other hand, if the girl is not really into what she's doing, this tactic would work occasionally to get the inattentive client out the door a little more quickly.

We hear this stuff time and time again. Whats the big deal with checking the clock on arrival, Are we afraid we might hurt her feelings? This is after all a business transaction. I don't mean to be rude or accusing but as tsated the hotel clocks are always wrong. What would happen if a hobbyist turned a clock back on an outcall?
Write a true review,

an hour is an hour on any clock, it doesn't matter whether or not the time is accurate. thanks for saying what i was thinking!

if he didn't take a quick glance at the clock when he came in, then that is not her fault, and she certainly shouldn't be penalized or badmouthed because of a hotel clock's inaccurate time.

Hi Lilli,

I don't want to badmouth or penalize anyone over what may be a simple misunderstanding.  I think what I'll do is go see her again, and then post my review on the second session.  That sounds like a solution that may please everybody! Alright!

Your only complaint is about the 15mins. Could you have not only gotten it up and running again in 15mins. but actually finished? If not, would you have paid her extra for the 'overtime' it took to get you off again? Guys complain about clockwatchers but few complain about (or PAY) for the extra 5,10,15+ minutes providers spend on that extra pop or 2. Not to be mean, but if I were this provider, I wouldn't see YOU again after making such a big deal out of it on the board. If I wanted to hear complaints, I would have stayed married (:

-- Modified on 4/30/2007 8:18:46 PM

1.  Did you make an appointment for a specific time?
2.  Do you know what time it was by your cellphone when you got there?
3.  Did she signal you that your time was up?

If not, because you just said "can I come over now?" and never looked at your cellphone time till afterward, and since you didn't look at the hotel phone when you came in, but only to tell whether your time was up, you can't tell how long the appointment actually lasted, and you could have shorted yourself, or gotten full time and not known it.

But if you made an appointment for an hour starting at time X, and you checked it on your cell when you got there, and by your cell it was x + 45 when you left, and she was the one who sent you away, you've got a right to complain!