What about the other end of the spectrum?

I'm a provider so I'll speak from my perspective. I also took a hiatus (to finish my degree in Interior Design) and when I cam back a noticed most women were charging almost double my old rate (450/hr). So I knew I had to increase and I think I'm worth it  

Well, based on ads and discussions on other boards, AMPs and Asian agencies appear to do a brisk business at price points of $260/hr or less. I imagine if you attempt to undercut their price, potential clients may hesitate without seeing reliable reviews.  

Anything below $300 gives me pause.  In higher priced markets like Chicago or Phoenix, $300 per hour sends warning bells.  I won't even consider if not reviewed.  In fact, I hardly even make a provider choice unless there is a review.

So are you saying that certain races are charging more or less “based” on race ? Interesting concept.

Agreed-- but I won't technically be back until April.  Having a photoshoot in March and working on my website so that everything is squared away and ready to go.  

I read it more as the fact that many of the spas and agencies tend to work on volume principles rather than quality being their first priority.  Also-- agency/AMP rates generally don't factor tips into the equation, either.. which I know is pretty much the common practice on the AMP side of things.

Or just the market is what it is. In any event, I find myself suspicious of any FS provider here in LA that is asking less than 500, and highly suspicious under 400. At 300 and below  i won't even read the review.  

a more consistently good experience with Asian agency girls at $300 than I do with indies charging $400-$500.  That's why on my home turf I see agency girls, but when I'm traveling to other cites on business, I mostly see Indies and pay more (usually $500, plus or minus a little).  The reason is that many cities around the US that I frequent for business don't have any Asian agencies.  

Just figured you were "tied" to the agency world. Never one for indies....interesting.

a year, but they are all when I'm traveling on business.  There is no NEED for me to see an Indie in SoCal anymore now that I'm approved with all of the agencies, but I do anyway once in a while when a touring girl comes to LA/OC/SD that interests me.  

Thanks to everyone for participating-- it has been quite eye opening and very much appreciated for someone getting ready to dip her toes back into the waters.

I HAVE to ask, as a girl that's been a booker, an agency girl, and indy...
What type of experience are you "NO INDYS" going for?  Especially those of you talking about these Asian Agency girls that cost less than my hour VIDEO CHAT session.  You're in to pump (or in these cases probably be pumped) and dump? I can't see anyone for that little doing more than the minimum or just over it.

,,,the market place will let you know about pricing...i get nervous when i see anything under $300-$400...i always hope that providers understand that they are building their business...and im hoping that i would leave thinking that i got an amazing experience regardless of donation and i want to tell my friends before the provider realizes that $600 or $800 or $1200  etc is still a bargain-changes pricing and then i can only book 2hrs instead of 4 next time around....charge what u think your time is worth....remember TIME is one of the few things you cant get back.......

I live in an urban area. I was stuck in an area fir almost a week..where I saw a lot.lower rates. I found a girl at $300 for an hour. A huge mistake.. huge ... she was far from her pictures. the apartment a mess.. talked endlessly.. had all kinds of reasons for no FS. Finally had her do a BBBJ & I got out of there. She said she had to cleanse her apartment of my karma after I left. She had the incense & crystals all ready. Never again.. live & learn..

It’s well known among providers that their race, or how they portray it, impacts how much they earn.

Many indies, including a few Ms. TER's, have put up posts showing they are clueless about how the Asian Agency business model operates, so they assume, hypothesize, speculate and denigrate, just as you have done.  I'm not into pump and dump, but there are many who are, so I only book a one-hour session when I'm seeing a new girl for the first time.  Repeats are always two hours or more, and if I'm seeing someone regularly, it's not uncommon for me to book two two-hour sessions in the same week.  

I have to laugh.  I just skimmed your reviews and it appears that MOST of the ladies that you have reviewed are $80 or $90/hh?  It looks like the most expensive lady that you have seen is $300-350/hr.  It also appears that you have taken your lumps given your rip off reports while trying to play Nat the less than $100 price point.

it's literally one of the first topics that comes up anytime someone is considering entering the industry as a provider...

So I am guessing that you are "mixed" based on your profile.

I'm in the DC area.

By the way, if you visit DC on tour I, for one, would see you.

in her TER profile.  Did you find another ad somewhere, or are you in the mood for a TOFTT?  

My mom is Indigenous, French and Italian and my father was Black and Middle Eastern.

Waiting at the door to let me in and not having me waiting in the hallway.
Pleasant welcome and introductions (assume that is true pretty much everywhere)
Lead back to the room by the and or with arms locked (like a sensual GF)
Generally assisted with disrobing and at the end dressing.
Clothes put away neatly. (Okay, sometimes that not true if the chemistry is more "overcome by passion and clothes "ripped off" to get body-to-body)
Shower together (pre and post)
Dried off
Nearly all will have bottles water to offer after the sex or for when leaving -- some will offer tea or other drink.
Well decorated rooms with good mood lighting.
Well dressed -- regardless of what the outfit might be, lingerie to nice evening gown.
Clean apartment, room and bathroom areas.
Never seen any that were under the influence of anything during the session.
Seldom (as in maybe 2%) able to tell if they were smokers even if the profile indicated they were but not during the session.
Never seen any with rushed hair or makeup.  
Never late.
Never rushed. (Great time management)

As mentioned upthread-- I'm coming back from an extended hiatus in April.  I have a smattering of reviews here-- but a slew of reviews elsewhere-- as I was Dallas based for more than a decade.   My website with updated pics will be available in April and I am currently active on Twitter as well as a couple of hobby related message boards.  

No ad that I've found. I can't really articulate why, but in this case I'd be inclined to TOFTT.

....i havent reviewed anyone in yrs...and i really dont plan too anymore...most reviews that you see here are from locals because i was trying to help them out,so they would stay in business....

ANY provider who is not showing reviews on TER is a potential TOFTT session.  It just means the guy is going in blind and has not had the benefit of reading your reviews.  It doesn't mean anything disrespectful or negative about you.  If you have a TER profile with reviews, you should link it to your posts on the discussion boards.  I have seen some indies in the past who first came to my attention by joining discussions and posting here.  When a new provider like you starts posting here, I will automatically click the link your profile and then go to your website.  I think most guys here do the same when a new provider starts posting on this board, but you don't have a link to your profile and reviews, so you are not getting the attention that normally comes to providers who post here.  

I've never been scared off by a low minimum because I never see anything low.  Of course I use P411 mostly, not something like backpage or whatever the equilent is now.  
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Frankly aside from rates correlating with looks/age, I've never really seen a correlation with service.  So I don't mind low rates if I can find them.

I do not know why my reviews aren't linked to this profile-- because when I'm in my profile I can see my reviews just fine.  Most recent one was 2015 here, though-- because this board just isn't super popular in Texas.  

Yes, you have those here -- attached to your TER handle. But with the most recent, whatever the reason, being from 2015 I don't think many will put much value on the review. So that means you're a bit of an unknown currently to those using TER, hence a TOFTT setting.

Just in case others need an explanation: TOFTT = Take One For The Team.
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It's a sports saying. I first learned about in baseball. You send a man to the plate and they try to challenge a pitcher and to get hit by a pitch in order to get a man on base and keep the inning alive, thus helping the team. The downside is, getting hit on the shin guard isn't so bad but getting bean balled in the face can send you to the emergency room. But that batter was willing to risk it to "TOFTT" ("one" bean ball). There are comparable heroic gestures in other sports.
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In ice hockey, you send out a player to pick a fight with the other team's best player. Your guy might goad the other guy into a penalty and get him off the ice OR your guy might get a 5 minute major AND get the shit kicked out of him in the fight. But he was willing to take the risk to "TOFTT" ("one" penalty or "one" ass whupping) to win the game.  
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On TER, a player - teammate steps up to the plate to see if she's throwing hittable pitches or bean balls and risks it to TOFTT. If he doesn't end up in the ER or jail, he reports back to the team about his experience.

Its not unusual to see a $400 hour girl and have the best time of your life while also finding a great regular.  Also a $ 700- $1000 hour girl can be just as good or better but the risk is higher. Nothing like spending over $ 500 and getting a rubber thrown on for a bj along with worse service that you got last week for $ 300 !  
 Large hourly cost is no guarantee of great service.  

Hey Grace,

Seems the ones that are jacking up their rates are looking for more of a low volume sugar daddy model.  In the end, the market will determine your success, just like the rest of us.  

to your profile, but there is no link to a web ad.  That's what members want to see.  It will presumably have your photo gallery, rates and CURRENT contact info.  

would be a good idea at this point.  

to do it coming from a fellow provider.  You should post more.  There are many new ladies who could use some of your experience and wisdom about the biz.  

Grace and I are now following each other on Twitter. IMO, she'll be back strong soon!

I have nothing to add about the current economy. My real interest is when the downturn happens. People should get while they can get!

WHOOOAAAA.  Please NEVER put an insult towards women in this industry in my mouth.  I was, well, technically insulting YOU, the guys.

This has been my "biggest issue".  I have people that saw me regularly before or used to users ago when I was with an agency and thus at much too low rate.  I made bank though.  But not I'm a LOT more if you aren't doing something longer and there are a lot of people that would have scheduled but I won't compromise rates.  A whole different set of people and genres of people found me.
But it is hard when a girl goes through a rate hike, I get that hurting the people used to someone at a set rate.  I try to find silly little compromises that don't compromise my morals or business model but helps give them something more.

I think that a lot of men and women cut back on contacts and especially new contacts since the pandemic began. I certainly did. Screening has also changed; did you ever ask to see a vaccine card before? This led to more selectivity, and higher rates and less travel, just to keep body and soul together for some gals.  

Cost of living has skyrocketed all over might be one of many reasons rates are going up.

So coming from the Twin Cities areas I can tell you that the prices have really gotten astronomical since the Super Bowl a couple years ago and covid.  Ladies that were charging 200-300 an hour suddenly doubled their prices to that 5 to 600 range.  
 I know it's even worse and higher in markets like Chicago LA in New York with so ladies charging 1000 per hour.   Now I'm not a cheap skate but I'm not inclined to pay 5 to $600 on a regular basis for one hour of fun. I look at things relatively.  For me paying a lady $600 an hour is equivalent to almost half of half of my mortgage payment. That's just not something I'm willing to do, although I might make a exception or two.
 I prefer mid end girls.  I actually have a regular who, although she's older, grandfather me at her rate 4 years ago and I pay 200 an hour for a great time.

Wish that were the case in LA. A girl I saw before the pandemic for 600 is now demanding 900 and apparently getting it. Just came across another lady charging 1500 for an introductory session.  God bless them if they can get that but it won't be from me; my salary has not gone up to match.

Looking at ads in the entire NY area (NY, NJ and CT) some rates HAVE indeed stayed the same. Others have gone up.

Yes Grace !!  Stay strong pretty lady..  

I wish I lived in Canada. No shortage of beautiful women and a lot of them are charging 300 to 400 in Canadian dollars, which i wouldn't mind paying.

Sure pal.. That's  genius.   Let me know pal when you can pump your own gas in NJ.. Garden state... Lick my brown ass.  

In reality,  you could lower your prices, but if you don't show that passion as a provider should. Then your prices, services and location won't mean shit.  As a Provider: Your focus should be on the Hobbyist/Customer. So, that you can make the money that you need. Now don't twist what I'm saying.  Providers should set some "RULES"/"Dos & Don'ts". Because we are not the so called "DRUG USER".   Therefore,  Hobbyists need to realize 2 things. The first is that we (The Providers) are here in this field of work because the Hobbyists would either be jerking off in their own homes or having sex with a blow up doll. Secondly we (The Providers) are as human as anyone else( Including the hobbyists).

and the K Girls actually undress you, join you in the shower, and for the most part seem to be much less jaded than many of the indy's.

Have dropped seeing some regulars as they have raised their rates and not grandfathered me or have cut service
you get.  Pay more for less service, sounds good to me  lol

through your NHL pension already?  Shame on you.  Lol

How many drinks does it take to get you to sit on my face? LOL

Out of curiosity, at an AMP how much of that approximately 300 goes to the provider and how much goes to the agency?

He played in the 60' and 70's.  His highest salary was only $500K.  Even in terms of 2020 dollars, he got paid similar to what a journeyman defensemen makes these days.

What pension? Alan Eagleson was his agent:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Eagleson#Russ_Conway_investigates
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"Conway's writings alleged that Eagleson had embezzled player pension funds for many years.[20] For example, after Orr's contract with Boston ran out, Eagleson said that the Blackhawks had a deal on the table that Orr could not refuse. It later emerged that the Bruins had offered Orr one of the most lucrative contracts in sports history, including an 18 per cent stake in the team; however, Eagleson claimed the Blackhawks had a better offer. Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz was never charged with wrongdoing, largely because the Bruins' offer was widely known in league circles, and even reported in the Toronto Star. No other NHL owner was ever charged in the affair. Orr was once one of Eagleson's strongest supporters, but broke with him after suspecting that he was being cheated. Orr, whose career ended in 1978 because of serious knee injuries, learned from an independent accountant that he was almost insolvent from tax liabilities, despite having supposedly earned high salaries while being represented by Eagleson. It took Orr several years to recover his fortune."
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"... Eagleson "didn't even have the common decency to go visit the family. He wouldn't aid them in the insurance process. He was gone. Crush up the cigarette pack, throw it out. Next!" Conway vowed never to forget Kea's story and later turned his series into the basis of a book, "Game Misconduct: Alan Eagleson and the Corruption of Hockey." ..."