I had been a regular client of this very pretty provider in the Baltimore area. I was actually her first client. She was 20 at the time. She went away to vegas thinking that she was going to make some serious money as a provider in sin city.

I saw her today. She is 23 now and looks worse for the wear. Browning teeth, belly, wrinkles, silly tasteless tattoos everywhere, piercings everywhere (nipples, clit, nose, chest), thinning face and pale skin that she was trying to cover up with excess makeup. It was a sad site to see what once was a beautiful woman deteriorate. I am saddened for her because what value she did have as a provider is gone now. Oh and BTW the sex was nothing like it was before. She went from a true GFE to a truckstop GFE.

The saddest thing is that she returned to the DC area because she was struggling in Vegas. I tried to explain to her that she needed to clean up her image if she was to establish a clientel. She got pissed because she thought I was busting on her. Dispite our mini argument, as I was leaving she begged me for an a loan. Even after I had just given her $300. I said sorry and left.

My favorite ... which I just ditched ... couldn't keep up a schedule with me - no cancellation no show. Sometimes she would text and say "Get me my cash now .. couldn't get any calls" or "I'm starvin.. groceries will do". But she's always late or does not response. And lately she told me she went to court for weed. I don't know why these girls don't wise up.

I know of a young lady who GOT OUT at the FIRST sign of 'problems'.

A backhand was ALL that was required,from a client,to open her eyes.

She hasn't looked back.

Hope your friend wises up for MANY reasons.

you have to feel bad when a lovely young lady has been ruined by her rash decisions in life.i personally hate to see a young lady who is vibrant, energenic,and full of life and hope go down this road of wrong choices.its ok if one can deal with all the dos and donts but you know there are ladies that cant.we rarely hear about the lovely sweet young ladies that go astray.
i wish her the best and ihope she gets back on track.

Wow, that is too bad.

often think they have a handle on all this.  That they know everything about the "hobby", can dish out advice (very well intentioned usually), but take none in return.  Many figure that since we guys think with our cocks in this that we have little to offer but the envelope.  

It is a shame, but it is why I have (for the most part) begun to avoid those in it over a couple of years.  Little spontaneity is left in the sex, they get a routine going.  It's just another appointment.

Not saying this is the case with all, but I think a larger majority than they will ever admit or recognize.  I can see why many experienced guys don't bother interacting with them as people...what's the point in the long run?  They have it all down pat and we are the fools if we question or make suggestions in any aspect.  A shame, because so many start out as positive caring women who like to make others happy.  There is a handful that I REALLY care about as people and think of often.  But we all know what happens when the envelopes stop.

BTW, a downward spiral and jadedness happens on BOTH sides.  Not trying to bash one side over the other or comment on anyone in particular.  But it is there...the price to be paid when you make a beautiful human interaction into a commodity.  The mind has to adjust to make it less human, less personal.  

It is what it is, right?

I've been an escort for 7 yrs now and I'm not jaded, I enjoy it and find beauty and fun in every new person I meet and the same in my regulars.  

What is being described by the OP and the second poster is drug abuse/addiction.  Totally different scenario.  Those women aren't jaded by the hobby, they are hooked on drugs and the envelope is now just their next hit.  That explains the physical decline, demanding texts, and sporadic scheduling.

Yes I agree with you. I also do agree with a previous poster that stated you have to be mentally strong.

This business can sap your energy. Sometimes after 2 days I am very tired and take a break. We are human, and so the other problem I must add to my first sentence is--- a break from this life is a must.

We must all have a break (vacation) from our work, whether we enjoy it or not. Although I enjoy meeting new people and get pleausre out of those I decide to see (it is a two way street of happiness), a mini to full vacation is a must. To re-energize my body and mind.

I'm sorry that some people deteriorate.
But it isn't due to being an escort.

What I see happen many times is women let men treat them like trash and they start to see that in themselves.  
So much negative energy out there. Clients who think they can be Mr. Anonymous and get that GFE (so disrespectful),  Call in the middle of the night *high or drunk or just stupid I guess* thinking a girl should run to see them,
Men who say there should be no emotional exchange.. this is all business. (?!)  *buy a real doll - mr. angry*  

At 20 sometimes it is difficult to empower yourself.  Young people are often still letting others define them.
Your story is sad and I wish that girl luck and some love in her life.  

For those that feel they won't see a lady if she has been working a few years......
Maybe you should examine the types of ladies you seek out and also your own behavior toward them.. Maybe you're part of the problem.

another problem is unreal expectations on a lady's part.  
I have met many ladies who think they will put up an ad and the money will flow. Men will pamper them.
Have unreal expectations of the emotional aspect and physical requirements.  It takes a certain type of person and some people are really not meant to do this work.

Untimately
This is a business and it is not an easy path.

I guess I can say that I've been in this industry
long enough to hear from all walks of life and
the sad part is knowing that there are guys out
there who manage to lure in young girls to play
the way they play. C'mon baby you party don't you?
It's just a kick to give you a boost here try some .... and before you know it not only is he partying with her but next he's throwing up in her face that he is spent on party goods to enjoy with her. By then she's hooked.Going back to see him because he has her fix. Soon she is his crack whore or whatever other drug it is he has her looped on.
 
Soon you guys wind up getting your call to send
more money because the guy who got her all lit on drugs has moved on. It's a game that the scummy guys play.They get more sex for a fraction of
the hourly rate. It is so sad to see young girls
wind up vulnerable.Obviously they came in the
industry for the income but were blind to what lurks in the night.

this is not an intrinsic characteristic of providing per se but rather of self image expressed as business model

this business model, the "pincushion" model as I think of it, can be expressed thusly:

"My body and soul are worth x amount of dollars per hour. Use me and pay me. Then I'll spend the money on whatever I need to assuage my physical needs and my self image. I don't care about myself and I don't care about you. I show that I don't care about myself in the way that I do not take care of myself, and I show that I don't care about you in the way that I am unbusinesslike, and unreliable."

women come into the profession with that attitude already learned and ingrained in some cases; in others, they "learn" this attitude because of the way they approach the busienss, the kind of clientele they attract.

OTOH some ladies build their business around a professional companion model. They care about themselves and market themselves accordingly. They don't put up with abuse, misuse, disrespect. They value themselves. They attract and "keep" clients who treat them well and show appreciation. And they show appreciation in return. Providing for them is self-actualizing. If anything they become better, stronger women for it.

Consider these the end points on a distribution scale of probability densities with respect to provider "personality" expressed as business model. Consider that this distribution scale is likely not a classic bell curve.

This is a self run business...  one must be good not only in the service but also in the management.  One can not be a "Part Girl" and blow it all on booze, drugs or clothes...  Some people in or out of the business can not keep a checkbook!  
It's not just providers.  I know a (former) local resturant owner...  found a nitch & had a gold mine...  blew it on booze and (allegedly) drugs, ran it into the ground.  His mentor bought it, fixed all the broke equipment, the leaky roof & turned it around in 2 years.  
To be in any business, one must have a viable plan...  including health insurance and savings...

"Consider these the end points on a distribution scale of probability densities with respect to provider "personality" expressed as business model. Consider that this distribution scale is likely not a classic bell curve."

I was keeping up with you for the most part until you inserted this dogs breakfast of BS.

Color me stupid please.

and is often described as a "bell curve" because of its shape when graphed.

in my experience, provider personality and business model does not follow the bell curve or normal distribution.

Rather, there seem to be far more providers in both the "pincusion" class, and many in the "professional companion" class than would have been predicted..

You seem like the kind of person who would stop at a fatal car crash to have a good belly laugh.

This business has ruined a lot of women.  Not always, but too often, the men who see them are a major reason for the chemical problems they pick up, and then those same men throw them to the curb when it happens, sanctimoniously preach about how "she should have known better", and laugh at them for good measure.

Some topics are comical.  Others are not.  You seem to have a problem telling the difference.

... that I hobby on the far right end of that curve!

Women who love and care about themselves.

If she loves herself; I can find something to love in her too.

it often attracts the weak and those lacking in self confidence.  Those in turn are easily manipulated by pimps, men who tell them they love them, and guys who pump them with alchohol and drugs to do what they want with them.  Very sad.

I wish this was required reading for all porential providers.

Plan your work and work your plan. If your'e self employed this probably works for all industries, including hobbying.

If you are going to bushwack me get your shit together before you do so.

The OP stated the girl went off the Vegas and in a sense came back fucked up. There is an old says that "what happens in.... Fuck it, never mind a Mangina like yourself would not understand the content anyway.

Let's just say that everything does not need to be so freakin serious around here. If you choose to sob over the stories on this board have at it. I choose to try and be happy although not at other expense. Unknown imaginary, hypothetical others are not not the ones. Now at your expense, I could really care as well, since you are the one to reach out to say hello. lmfao

Plan the dive and dive the plan


problem is, if the plan sucks the results aren't going to be much better

and if the plan is great but you dont' stick with it you're equally fucked.

So many people, including providers, do not have the discipline.....

-- Modified on 5/8/2010 10:45:59 AM

Full of self justification and red herrings.

I did not bushwhack you.  I didn't hide behind any alias.  Didn't sucker you into making a statement and then jumping on you.  If you consider any statement that you were out of line to be "bushwhacking" so be it.  I am not surprised.

Your second defense is the overused "you must be too stupid to understand the deep significance of what I said".  No, I completely understood your blatantly obvious Vegas reference.  I thought it callous and insensitive, that's why I replied.  Quit the condescending "you wouldn't understand" drivel.

"Everything does not need to be so freakin serious around here."  YGBSM!  Most the posts on here are of the fluffy nonserious kind.  The reality is "Everything does not need to be trivialized around here."  Some parts of this business are very funny in odd ways.  Some are not particularly humorous.  Maybe someday you might be able to tell the difference.

You don't see any issue with your laughing at someone else's car crash.  Good for you.  Glad you find that an appropriate way to be happy.

How foolish of me to have my finger strike the R key instead of the T key as I was typing.  It is good the state legislature recently downgraded that crime in my state from a 1st degree felony to a 3rd degree felony.  Now I am only facing a 40 year sentence if convicted.  I suspect they will be calling you as an expert witness against me so I am surely doomed.

I humbly grovel at your feet and beg forgiveness for the typo that made it impossible for you to comprehend the substance of my post.  What a wicked, evil man I must be to misguide an easily distracted soul such as yourself.

The only mitigating circumstance I can put forth in my own defense is that you would likely have glossed right over any substance in my post anyway.  You have elevated your fixation on the mundane and trivial to the point that one so insignificant as I could never distract you with statements of substance.  How foolish of me to try.

I affirm I will diligently study your collected posts of wisdom so I may one day be able to point out the mundane and obvious to the world while ignoring the substantive.  You are my idol.

make it even possible to read some of this.   Some of these threads would have been trainwrecks and unintelligible, and its noticed.  I think someone is pms'ing or didnt get his provider of choice. Some of this would be downright painful without you.

needing to have a continuous diatribe about drivel of no meaning other than to puff your way through an argument that you started by your friendly reach out to me?

I am lost in your quotations as others probably are.

I'll give you the last word, as most pompous ass people prefer it that way.

I'm done with ya!! Have a nice day.

I see you have met smarty. Be kind to him. He gave you a free mangina card, and he is not always so generous with those cards. Congrats!

I know this is a tiring job. So, do you have any limit to how many you see each day or each week?
Just curious, but you don't need to answer.  Some provider though will say they are low-volume and say they don't do more than 2 or 3 a day.

how could you possibly miss the "What's" in my post? lmfao

I was sure that a worldly gent like yourself would have caught that. It was a test, so no you get no extra points.

If I understand you correctly, -nqbs-, you are suggesting that the distribution is more bi-modal, with two large groups forming.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimodal_distribution

And, it is telling that the resulting graph strikingly resembles a pair of titties:

Item #1:  5/8/2010 12:10:52 PM by Smarty1101
“I'll give you the last word, as most pompous ass people prefer it that way.
I'm done with ya!! Have a nice day.”
= = = = = = = = =

I read this post of yours and decided not to reply.  Really no need to.  There wasn’t anything in your post worth replying to.  And I was getting tired of this.  I’d point out something specific (granted, with some theatrics thrown in) and you’d reply with snide comment and name calling, no specific reply to what I had said most cases.  A debate isn’t much fun when one side has no ammunition other than name calling.

But then you must have gotten forgetful because there, at 5/8/2010 3:17:08 PM we get Item #2, you feel obliged to post again even though I had not.  No big deal really, but I hate to tell you it didn’t add much.  Wait, on second thought it did.

(1)  It shows that while you purport to be an advocate of humor it is really only an advocacy of your own brand of humor.  Obviously my variety of humor (sarcasm clearly directed at you) you do not find as acceptable.  Goose.  Gander.  I’m sure you get it.

(2)  It also shows you are not adverse to borrowing names from others.  Did you send a royalty check to Allergic?  I would guess not, but I do not know.

(3)  It shows you are easily lost in quotes even when some of them are yours.

Hope folks have enjoyed their popcorn.  I guess it’s up to you if they can have more on this thread.  I would personally rather ponder the secrets of the universe.  You know, questions like the real meaning of calling someone Alfalfa.  I don’t suppose it was an intended play on words with my handle?  Oh, maybe it was!  Now THAT is almost humorous.  Just not original on your part.  No extra credit for that!  (Before you get bent out of shape please note that was a joke referring back to your use of the same phase.)

PS.  If I do manage to earn some extra credit points I wonder what they are good for?

that a bimodal distribution curve is a more sucessful approximation of the probability density distribution of the provider personaity / business model matrix than that of the Gaussian distribution.

With respect to the psychodynamics of the population, there is a certain self selection for behavioral characteristics that explain the non-mean-distributed results.

We should discuss slip stream theory one day, but in the meantime I linked a video for your enjoyment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOsB4psC9E

You do seem to have a propensity to show up to the "aid" of others.

Please explain, your pal makes a dumb comment, gets upset when I call him out on it, and then you pop up.

Coincidence?

Inquiring minds want to know.  Maybe.

If you're looking to pick a fight, go elsewhere.  You are entitled to an opinion, but that gives you no right to trample those of others.

I don't expect a reply.

This is my first time posting in the discussion area but I have to say that I agree with you.  There are many, many ways to end up in bad situations when providing and if you don't have a strong sense of self and know your own morals then you can end up down a road of drugs and other bad things.  The access to "easy money" can lead you down bad roads if you aren't careful.

Just glad I got all of my craziness out of me before I started, haha.

I read she went to court for weed.......... How did you go from weed to hooked on drugs? Did I miss something in another post?

SG06

This job pay a toll to these girls heads it is not as easy as We "men" think..

I forgot to mention that while we were talking during the session. I learned that it has been over two years since she spoke to her parents. As a father of two girls myself, I would just die if I went a fraction of that amount of time without talking to my baby girls (twins 25).

One of the biggest lessons that I have learned in life so far is that some people just cant be helped. This is compounded when one also realizes that most of the time these people just cant help themselves also.

I did not mention that as I was getting dressed early, about 45 minutes of a 90 minute session. She never ceased talking dirty. I like some dirty talk but this was utter filth. After I apologized for not being able to lend her some money. She said the following "You can fuck me bareback in whatever hole you want for $50." I just said no thanks and left. She sent me several e-mails expecting me to see her again that have been ignored.

I guess some girls do flourish in this industry but  this is a prime example of the opposite. Although temporary, this makes me not want to hobby.