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Re:What would you do?
Anonimity 11623 reads
posted
1 / 11

I am curious actually how many men would stop upon realizing that the provider is either under aged or under the influence.  If the answer is no, why?  I read a news article about a 17 year old working as a provider.  Even though she told many men that she was only 17, none stopped having sex with this girl.  It's kind of sad to think that none of the men had the ethics to stop.  But I can only say this, cause I am not actually in the situation.  

It would be awefully difficult to stop, once I paid and got myself ready.  If you can stop, how would you stop yourself?  And what would be your next move?  Would you report it to the police or some volunteer group?  Or would you try to talk her out of it?

MartinLuther 7508 reads
posted
2 / 11

The legal question depends upon what state or country you
are in at the time.  Refer to the link below...
As for the question of personal taste,  don't think I would
find sex with a girl that young enjoyable, though she may
be quite talented, who knows?  I prefer not to put myself
in jeopardy of breaking any more laws than I already do! LOL
LM

MichaelCA 7144 reads
posted
3 / 11

If you are already in the act, you might as well finish and enjoy yourself. Not knowing her age is really not much of a defense in court, unless she went to extremes to hide it.

If we were only in to foreplay, I would be out of there in a second, clothes or no clothes. there are few things worse to be labeled in this society than as a pedophile.

As for talking her out of it, no. Society sets the level at 18 and it varies greatly by country and used to by state. I would however put out a review warning everyone!

Anonimity 8945 reads
posted
4 / 11

I am perplexed with your reply.  It sounds to me like "I would put her out of business."  Wouldn't it make sense to tell her to find an alternative solution?  There are many volunteer groups that can help girls in such situation.  And when she is old enough to make her own decision to be in this business, she can go to "Nevada." (I am not going to argue about the legality of such occupation.)

I just had to be the devil's or angel's advocate.  I am curious.  I used to be in a situation that I see many ladies in this business (I used to work in a clinic in LA.)  Many of them sounded like they have no choice but to be in this business to legitimately support their family and themselves.  I respected and admired these ladies.  I often wondered if there is any future for these ladies.  Well, I am sure many providers are happy with this profession.  I hope they can save enough nest egg to be able to retire when it's time.

MichaelCA 10269 reads
posted
6 / 11

I didn't say or mean to imply that I would do anything to try to put her out of business. You must have taken that from my comment  about immediately posting a review. The warning in a review is to let everyone know they are playing with fire. I think everyone should KNOW that she is a legal minor. If they want to play after that, then they had a chance.

I am not judging anyone male or female that is voluntarily in the business or enjoying it. It is just another job to me. We all take a certain level of risk in this hobby. Prostitution and Soliciting for Prostitution are misdemeanors. Statutory Rape is a felony and a sex crime. The law in the California is 18. Anyone playing with someone under 18 should know the situation they are walking into.

A review stating she is under 18 will probably get her as many clients as she would lose from it. Some people like the challenge. Personally, getting caught scares the shit out of me!

Anonimity 8439 reads
posted
7 / 11

Mike, I don't care about the legality at all what so ever.  My question was from the ethical stand point.  Are we ethical enough to do the right thing?  I wish so.  If posting about a provider being an under age gets more business, I would be a bit disappointed with ourselves.  I would feel compelled to tell the under-aged provider to get the help.  I wouldn't be sitting on my thumb and just let my sexual urge take over.

I know hiring a prostitute is illegal in most places.  And prostitution maybe not be a victimless crime.  I am probably in no position to tell the under-aged provider to get a help.  Cause I am breaking another law to see her in the first place.

I just can't break law beyond hiring a provider.  It would stick to my conscience too much.

MichaelCA 7259 reads
posted
8 / 11

You can of course "get help" for this under-age provider. A simple call to Social Services with any contact information at all will definitely change her life. Whether taking an independent person and making them a victim of our oh so helpful government agencies is helpful is the question.

Live bu the Golden Rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. She didn't call Social Services about your obvious sexual addiction. Why should you butt into her life?

You want to help? Ask her if she wants it first! Nothing more irritating than someone who is willing to "fix" your life for you.

Anonimity 6173 reads
posted
9 / 11

My question was "what would you do if you found out that a provider was under the age."  Calling a volunteer group was one of many choices that we have.  Some men enjoy under aged providers without a conscience.  I hope most men are ethical enough.  

You said don't stick my nose in some one else's business.  OK, but wouldn't you at least like to find out if she needs help?  I'd appreciate a help, if I am on a verge of hurting myself.  But you wouldn't help anyone unless asked?  That's your opinion.  And that's how it is.

While I doubt that visiting this site qualifies me as a sexual addict or visiting a provider makes me a sexual addict.  Please go back and read my past posts to clarify this point.  I have specifically said if you found out that she is under the age.  And I mentioned a case where a girl told her age to her client.  If a girl is telling her age to a client, that seems to me like she is looking for a help.  I would at least tell her to call a social service.  I used to see many prostitutes (I used work in a clinic in Los Angeles.)  Many of them were under the age.  

It hurt me to see them being forced into a situation.  Now, do you see where I am coming from?  While I love having sex, I am not sure if this makes me a sexual addict.  In any case, posting about her being under the age seems a little unethical.  Please don't construe my interpretaton as "wanting to steer you into making a moral decision."

MichaelCA 7837 reads
posted
10 / 11

As I stated above, merely ask her if she wants assistance before offerring it. I would not offer assistance unless asked. Glad to help if she asked.

I meant to put the sexual adddiction comment in quotes. It seems the PC way of referring to everyone in this hobby.

Having a little trouble with your ethics. You are willing to help this provider but would not inform your fellow hobbyist? You would allow one of us to be arrested for Sexually Molesting a Minor when you could have easily stopped it without harm to anyone??

Anonimity 9149 reads
posted
11 / 11

My assumption is that she is telling the clients her age.  I can see you're having a little bit of problem with my ethics.  Cause you don't see it is ethical to ask an under-aged provider if she needs help.  My questions is merely a hypothetical one.  What you would actually do is different from people to people.  I am obliged by my profession to call social workers, afterall statutory rape is a rape regardless of what is agreed with a price.  

I have a little or no sympathy for the hobbyist being arrested for having sex with minor.  By posting such information on this site would only make the situation worse per your past comments.  And I believe you on that one.  I saw a few under-aged providers.  They all said no men stopped even after they told them their age.  

So what if your information put her out of her business?  What solutions would it provide?  I would at least tell her there is a way out, if she seeks one.  It's up to the individual to take it or not.  But I am having a little problem of attitude "I won't help unless asked, therefore I play dead in the face of our ethics."  

And going back to your comment about warning other men.  I don't see how I can post such information and stop without harm to anyone.  It seems very narrow minded.  Can you see my point?

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