I would like to refer you to a response to a popular yet incorrect myth of TER:

http://theeroticreview.com/MsgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=36409&boardID=12&page=1

Just a request for clarification.  Your comments gave the rules for "An escort provider".  Do the same rules apply for "sensual massage" (FBSM)?  Maybe it would work to have a different list for FBSM's to get extra points, for example DATY, kisses with tongue, CBJ.  Another idea is to let us give higher marks above 7 for FBSM without restriction, and let the reader check the juicy details to find out why.  

It's kind of frustrating if for the most incredible sensual massage you ever had you still can't give higher than 7 for performance.

You're saying that if two different providers gave me the same exact mind-blowing service (including DFK and BBBJ) and Provider A has been labeled Really Bi in her profile and Provider B has not (neither do multiple guys or anal), I can give Provider A a 10 for her perfomance but Provider B can't get more than a 9. The same perfomance can't get the same rating. That's crazy! Perfomance ratings should be based on what happened in THAT session.

No, FBSM is not altered.  It is not fair to downgrade the score when the nature of FBSM does not include all the extras

-- Staff

Well, I don't think there is a perfect answer to this.  By the same token, we have had guys give a girl a 10 for what most of us would consider a pretty poor session.  No BJ, No Kissing, Just a straight F*ck.  

Please remember - A 10 is supposed to be "One in a lifetime"  

-- Staff

Hmmm, maybe the profiles should be adjusted accordingly to meet the reviews.  I've noticed that in some cases the profile will say CBJ but many of the reviews will say BBBJ. Also there are instances where the cum in mouth says no but in the reviews there are everything from facials to cum in mouth.

I'm presuming that the reviews are valid because they are still there after a few weeks.  I don't know, it seems like you open up a whole new can of worms (and a lot of man-hours) by back-revving profiles to meet the consensus of the reviews. I don't know if it's even feasable with your already busy staff.

Hey, do like us busy executives do. Form a committee and have several lunch meetings, publish a report, and have a company retreat to assign task responsibilities. Then scrap the project citing budget overrun in administrative overhead charges and lay-off a couple of consultants!

Just look out for the French judges... they are notorius for inflating scores.

Oh wait... that's ice skating... never mind.

although I accept the perspective as on of many possible "right ways to do things". As one of my old teachers would say, you can't be all things to all people.

Any system that takes an amorphous, highly personal interaction and sets out to clarify it with numbers must lose some valid information in the process.

I've experienced numerous 9-like getting togethers that didn't meet all the technical criteria. The felt 9 in a non-quantifiable way. Is it possible to relate Martin Buber's "I-Thou" encounter to raging horniness at the same moment ?

Let me propose the most absurd sounding score to add to your system... rate the experience for poetry... there are times that aren't true love cause there's no future to them, its a now thing and it can only be a now thing, but a now thing can have poetic beauty.

Appearance 8, Performance 7, Poetics 9... I think I've had a few of those

uses TER’s functions.

If a hobbyist has no preference with regard to DFK, DATY, BBBJ, etc, the common GFE definition compared to No DATY and CBJ, but chose to filter out 7 rated ladies, then he does’t understand the TER rating system and would really miss out on a lot of ladies.

JMHO, the important thing about reading reviews is to look for internal consistency of the reviewer.  Reviews are subjective. There are plenty of occasions of YMMV.  Performance ratings of a lady can fluctuate quite a bit.

For me, the juicy details are the most important part of a review.  It often reveals the passion between the lady and the hobbyist and subtle insights of the personalities of the lady and the reviewer.  Those are true marks of the performance given by a lady.


-- Modified on 1/19/2003 4:01:01 AM

I think I understand what you're saying, but what about this scenario?  Anal is available, she's willing to do more than one guy at a time, & happens to be bi as well & bring another gal along for a 3-some.  I happen to care less about any of that stuff..just want some DFK, a great BBBJ, & a good screw---all of which she provides very well with gusto & pleasure.  The next guy has basically the same experience with her, but avails himself of another item or two on her menu.  Unless I'm misunderstanding you, then I couldn't rate her a 10 but the other guy could.  If it were to be based on what actually happened in THAT session it would have to play out that way.  

If that's the case she gets a lower score because of MY preferences, not really due to her performance or willingness to offer more.  Wouldn't that be 'penalizing' her for MY preferances??  I fail to see the virtue in that.  As long as the system is in place for 'requirements' beyond a score of 7, it shouldn't matter if someone orders the complete meal or not..just that it was on the menu.

Doesn't anybody actually READ the reviews?  Is everybody sooooo busy that they only have time to compare the numbers?  Personally, I read the entire review and click on to the website to view some pictures for just about anyone I can.  Especially anyone I don't recognize by name.  This way I try not to let anyone new to me slip by.  

In my experience, after FULLY checking out what I can find about a provider, I use all the info to decide to contact or not.  Does anyone think any of these girls is offended if she ONLY receives a 9 and not a 10? Unless I see a few scores under a 5 for performance in her reviews, I generally check out a few reviews and her website for myself.  

I have often found girls whose numbers may be inferior to another's, but who for some reason (gut feeling, something special to me in a review or her website, or a certain look she has)is more appealing to me.  9 or 10, 6 or 8, you have to allow for the eye (and taste) of the beholder.  

Any ladies out there feel slighted by an errant review ot two?  I would think that if you have more than 4 or 5 reviews, most viewers can get a pretty good idea of what you are all about.

I agree!  But I think many guys are under the impression that 7 is the limit, even for massage.  They often write "I would give her more than 7 but the rules won't let me."  Perhaps you should make the policy more clear in this area.

But I didn't think of ratings just based on the number given. In your scenario, if you gave the provider a 9 and the other guy gave her a 10, it would've been the same in my eyes. That's because after reading the details, I'd have seen your rating as a 9 out of 9 and his a 10 out of 10. Both of you would've given the maximum rating possible for your session. Yes, your number is lower, but your score isn't. I realize not everybody looks at them that way, but that's how I did. As Staff says, there's no perfect system.

Without a doubt, there is a science to reading (and for that matter writing) a review. But the science is straight arithmetic, not quantum theory. The escort business has become compartmentalized over the last several years and boards like TER and TBD have contributed to this compartmentalization. Where we not too long ago had a choice of "straight" or half-and-half", we now have escort sessions, MP sessions, GFEs and PSEs and combinations of all of the above. Even the different types of sessions can't be properly defined-one provider's definition of GFE might not be sufficient to another provider.

The reality of all this is simple: how much does one need to know to make an informed decision? I realize many get off on the infoporn (literally!) aspect of the review, and others get off on the anal retentiveness, needing to know every last detail (was her nail polish Britney Pink or Puta Red? How does she defoliate her bikini line, if at all?), etc. ad nauseum.

My plan has always been quite simple: look at the numbers, who is providing them, and if I like what I see, I contact the escort directly and feel them out. If we can get along, then we do business. The reviews should tell you what's on the menu and how well it's prepared. The rest is up to you.

Finally, for those who haven't worked it out by now, it ain't that big a stretch for most women to be doing this. That fact should greatly figure into your calculus.

I use the same methods as you in reading the reviews without paying undue attention to the numbers, & I couldn't agree more that the numbers can play too important a part in the minds of some.  We are on the same page in that regard.  

But, rightly or wrongly, the numbers do have a definite impact & are thus important as long as that's the case.  I'm sure there are many guys, whether due to lack of experience with the system or because they're traveling, who either don't have or don't take the time to do a as thorough research...& maybe aren't familiar enough with the reviewers to determine how credible they might be.  So they search by rankings & naturally tend to focus first on the gals with the highest score, thus these gals are the most likely to receive his business.  

And while I personally wouldn't think it's a case of being "offended" I think there are many gals who recognize the potential financial impact (however much it might be) on their business, thus it's important to them.  I've seen quite a few posts in the past that would seem to bear this out.  

This isn't a perfect system & there's no way it could ever be, but I think it's a worthwhile topic for discussion so that we all might hear the views of others.  And if anyone walks away with food for thought some good has been accomplished.        

From the way you would analize the two hypothetical reviews, we'd be in agreement.  However, there would likely be many (perhaps most) who wouldn't reach the same conclusion.  And there's still the effect on the numberical rankings to be considered.  See my reply below to jr9em if you're interested in my thoughts in that respect.

That's a good idea!  

I make it a point to read everything available on the provider in the review areas because I'm a firm believer in due diligence. I also read the reviews of other providers by the same hobbyist.

Based on my experience, gleaning a performance profile (i.e. reasonable idea of what the session experience will be) is made easier when there are several reviews of the provider one is considering. Careful reading of all the reviews allows the hobbyist to consider ratings that deviate sharply above or below the mean for that provider.

I also believe that reading the same hobbyist's other reviews about different providers assists in gauging similarities in personalities and session preferences.

For me, it all boils down to research and analysis of the detailed session descriptions, and making an informed decision based on your conclusions from the research.  Radical deviations from the mean don’t really trouble me because of the YMMV factor, or the “bad-day” situation for either the reviewer or provider. However, if the deviations constitute a striking percentage of the reviews, I consider it to be a trend rather than a bad day.  Of course, maybe I should run a regression analysis just to be sure…but that would be overanalyzing =B-}

HiProGlo

So we should be able to give a 9 or a 10 to a FBSM provider if she does an outstanding job?

This thread has helped shed significant light upon the review process.  I for one now have a better understanding of both the reason for the criterion to acheive a perfect rating and how Staff works diligently to be ever responsive in meeting the expecatations of all.  It is now clear that a hobbyist who chooses not to engage in certain acts can still declare a perfect rating of 10 so long as the provider generally meets the criterion.  And Staff is to be commended for laying this out in simple terms, including the method for redress, and for taking action where action is due as was done in my case.  We should all thank staff from time to time for what they do for us.  Kudos!!

What does she's really bi refer to?

Good point with a down to earth example--just proff that there is not such thing as a perfect system--in this case, our review system!

Joey