Just a question for the providors out there ? What are some of the things you ladies like done to and for you during sessions with your clients?

Sweetie, to be honest we just want you to enjoy yourself (quickly) and be on your way. It's just a business and we are not here for you to service us. We have lovers for that. Any provider that claims to love being eaten out while some strange guy slobers all over your pussy is a liar. We don't find your sweaty balls, fat belly or stinky ass and breath a turn on. It's all about the money. You are paying to get laid, not us. If you want to turn someone on please go to a bar not a hooker.

The best thing you can do is just simply ask the woman your with. Pay attention to her body. Watch her response to your touch. If she ‘seems” to like what your doing, don’t stop. If she doesn’t, stop. You don’t have to be a Rocket Scientist to learn to be attentive.

Some guys try to be too sensual. My thing is get to the point. Many girls do the whole GFE thing because that's what clients want but if I could get away without kissing things would be a lot easier. Pretty much I like a guy that can get it up, perform, and leave.

...turning you on IS what we enjoy (quickly)?

Sweaty balls, fat belly and stinky ass and breath? I take it we've met before.

Act like the guy is doing one helluva then!

Are you really a provider or just pissed off at all us hobbyist?

Yes, I agree with Kathy of 48th St, that you are in a business and you see us as just dumb a$$ smoes looking for a good time. But we are human beings just as you are.  I always try to give respect to the lady I'm with (I hope for the same).  For me, the act is 2 people working towards a common goal.

But, as I often take posts too personally, so:
For the personality and level of compasion you describe here, I'd prefer an inflatable doll or a tree stump.  So I'll take my sweaty balls, fat belly, stinkin' ass, and my money with my bad breathe to a LADY and not some NO CLAS...well, you get the picture.

I book multiple hours. Fun to be able to go slow and take your time. I have had a few tell me "What are we going to do for 3 hours". Afterwords they can't wait to see me again.

You must be picking up the wrong type of guys.

Gee, you sound like so much fun. Do you think it's possible, that some providers actually enjoy what they're doing?

I too am a professional in the service business. Some of my folks I tolerate for the money, however most of my clients are friends as well. Life is a lot easier if you enjoy the people you do business with. If at all possible develop a client list that gives you pleasure as well. Life is too short to be miserable.

Kathy, perhaps you should consider doing something else? I know there are a lot of providers out there in need of a scheduler, and I think you would be fabulous with your knowledge of the business! It would be a lot easier for you, and you wouldnt have to deal with the guys so up close and personal.

Good for you!  Looks like she modified her original post which said what she wanted was for us to "get up, get off, and get out."  I prefer the tree stump. Gotta be a New York kinda gal.

No, I didn't modify my original post. I can be as compassionate as the next provider. I'm just honest. Like I said, it's a business. It's rare (unless you look like Brad Pitt) that we will really be turned on by you. You are PAYING for sex so more than likely you are not overly attractive. Yes, we have a good time with some of you but it's only because you are paying. If we liked you that much than the session would be free.

They can't wait to see your MONEY again. Please stop kidding yourself. Tell the provider you forgot your wallet and see how much she will want to see you again.

Hi Victoria, I'm very good at what I do and very popular. I'm just being honest here. All my clients leave thinking they are the world's best lover because that's my job. I wouldn't have sex with these men for free. Would you???

Kathy,
Some of us hobbyist are attractive, and we see providers for other reasons. Most of the time, it's the providers that have put on the pounds since the last pictures.
Civi sex has strings and when you're married, that comes at a price/risk. I'd rather pay my money and know there's not a unwelcome phone call or visit to my house.
I will also tell you that my ATF makes me feel like we're in love and even says that to me. But I know the white envelope is on the counter.
I'll also say that if the girl I'm with does not show some enjoyment during our session (even it she's acting) then it'd be our last date.

I think you would starve in Phoenix, or even a Nevada brothel with your attitude and assumptions.

"Mr X is attractive, a real gentleman, and fabulous at DATY."
Posted by ChrissyStone  , 6/26/2005 11:43:04 AM  

Kathy, I appreciate your honesty here. Some clients don't want to hear it, and some providers don't want to say it.

My guess is that most providers give the illusion of pleasure to their clients while in fact the money is a BIG reason they do what they do.

But the client pays, you provide an experience in which you pretend to enjoy yourself with your clients. Nothing wrong with what you said.

Glad someone finnally stepped up and told the truth. The guys don't like hearing your brand of honesty, but I say thanks. A few weeks ago I got rode hard because I said that I preferred not to get involved and just a good screw would do; you think I called someone's mother a fool... Stay honest Kathy.

The women who call me back have soaking wet pussyies after I finish with them.

Kathy,

Sorry you feel that way. Sounds like you are in the wrong business.... at least compared to many of the ladies I have been lucky enough to know. It is much more than just the money for them:

M... who would make me dinner afterwards
G... who would spend the night for no charge
D... who left the envelope on the table one night, deliberately
K... who spent the night and charged for one hour
A... who would join me for dinner
G... who also enjoyed theater as well as dinner

All real people, who could enjoy a relationship that started with dollars rather than a drink in a bar, and either way ended up with a very human connection.

Maybe it helped that I showered...

MH50

Why not post a link to your website and then we will see how many hobbyist want to PAY to spend time with you!(lol)

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you must be a $20 girl from La Cienega blvd at LAX
just stay there with your attitude and take your pimp with you

VerySeldom, your POV is fine as long as you don't advertise yourself as a GFE. I find it a little low if in fact you do advertise GFE but in fact prefer no kissing and just get to the point dates. False advertising gets you no points VS so you better watch yourself with how you present yourself to your clients..

I make my clients feel special, too. That's what I'm getting payed for. I devote my full attention to them and give a great session. Never would I tell them I love them, that's just playing games & creepy. If she loves you then you would not need to leave the white envelope. It's funny how many clients think a provider truly wants them and when they leave the provider will bitch about them!! It's all about being an actress and putting on a show. We have real lives and real lovers.

Thank you!! More providers need to be honest in here instead of posting how they just love their clients and not the money. I'm just keeping it real.

is the session free? Sweetie, the money is making them wet and they will only call you back when they want more dough.

Good for you. They don't sound like very good business women. I don't know why guys in here actually think we really want them. We are PAID to make you feel good.

I have clients lined up and 90% are regulars. I'm being honest here. During my session, I make the guy feel special and I'm very accomadating. I do very well and I wouldn't starve anywhere. When you are beautiful, you get away with a lot more. I can speak my mind. So, you would do this for free???

You think when you leave the provider talks about what a great body or how good you were?? LOL. I work for an Upscale agency and when a client leaves the provider will tell the other's how good or bad a tipper he is, how big or small or about odors, etc. ALL PROVIDERS do this.

Thank you! A lot of guys are getting riled up. It's sad they are that dumb to think otherwise. We provide a service that they can't get elsewhere and they expect us to fall head over heels!

If it was $20, i'd want $19.50 back and then...  You know, I think I would just as soon give that $20 to a wino first....  This Kathy "person" has strangely appeared and stirred trouble (do a search and you'll see).  We need to get to the bottom of the 48th Street Scandal.  Where's Dan Rather when you need him ???

So put up or shut you vile witch! I have seen on these message boards that everyone can tick the other members off once or twice, but you seem to be going out of your way to make as many enemies as you can.  The only ones that support you hide behind an alias.  I think that you are either a junvenile little boy or someone's wife that found their way in here.  So if you are this great actress with millions of dumb horny fans, then Post your website like someone suggested earlier.  If guys are lining up to see you, the human race is doomed.  While I dont pretend to think that I am the greatest, but the cold heartedness you seem to pride yourself on is not the norm.  At least not for the Ladies I know.  

With contempt and condescention you display, you really should be in a polyester uniform and working for the DMV.  No, I take that back.  They aren't as bad as you.

Just because someone posted that really doesn't mean anything of importance, she's probably trying to stroke your ego so you'll book with her again. I tell clients they're great all the time so they can spend more money.

Some women will spend additional time or give some extras if they want to be considered your ATF. Think about it, if I spent a night with you for free it would be in my best interests financially because you'd think that I really liked you and therefore be more inclined to give more money in the long run. Typically there's always a motive.

Well I advertise GFE therefore I provide GFE. I don't like it but that's where the dough is and of course I present myself accordingly. It's a act.

Even if you have a relationship there is some type of cost taking care of the SO or paying for date. By the time you go through all the BS of dating you would have paid the same amount or even more for a real date. We actually pay so you can go away with no strings attached. We pay for the convience of a good fuck. We pay so you can pay for your incall. We pay to help with your costs of a website, cell phone, and other expenses.

If the dough makes you wet that is a turnon. Because when you are turned we are turned on.

No way. LOL if I don't like a guy, if his hygiene could use a little work, or if his personality is just annoying as hell.....no WAY am I going to spend one more minute in his company than I absolutely have to. No sticking around for an extra hour, no spending the night just because I might get a bigger tip. I don't care HOW well a man tips, I'm not into torturing myself just to squeeze a few more bucks out.

You bet your a$$ I've declined to see a man a second time because while I left him smiling, I was ready to chew my arm off to get away. The money simply is NOT a sufficient encouragement to continue seeing someone.

I guess maybe I'm just weird, but I don't think so.

Have any of you guys considered that a provider that you see feels just like Kathy does? It's an act why is it so hard for you guys to believe. They have to be nice and like they they're into it. It's not rocket science folks.

Just a note - for me it is not acting.  It is not all about your money.  Of course it's about money, isn't that why any of us works anywhere?  It's not the money that ensures that I enjoy myself, and if I'm not enjoying myself I should consider finding another line of work.   .02

Things I like?
The basics - come in clean and respectful and friendly.  I enjoy seeing a person visibly relax in my presence.  I like a good sense of humor, a smile and a twinkle in your eye.  Big expressive sighs and moans, heat rising and cooling...  I "get off" on your enjoyment.  I adore a man who can allow himself to be completely adored.

As to things I like "done to and for" me, I'll let you know as it happens.  Maybe.  It's easier to slightly adjust the angle of my pelvic floor or increase the angle my knees are resting or use my arms to elevate or lower... (etc.) to get what I want than to explain it to you.  Anyone or anything can be my toy so from a sexual enjoyment factor, I prefer if my friends don't worry much about it.  I can take care of myself, I'm a big girl.  Simply put:  Always start gentle, listen to my feedback, give me some yourself.

Above the basics and on the non-sexual side of things, I enjoy when my friends share general life banter.  I'm endlessly fascinated by people and love what others may consider mundane.  I drool over a good foot rub.  I enjoy exploring places and enjoying food and being introduced to new music.  

I like to be treated as a person and a friend.  Not the kind of friend you can call at 3am "just because", or the friend you can count on to call with condolences over any losses in your life, or the one who will loan you a bit of cash to get you through a rough period in your life.  Not the kind of friend you know will always be there for you.  I'm not that kind of friend.

I'm the kind of friend you call on friday night when your libido is high (even in high school I had those friends, surely I'm not alone).  The kind of friend you might call when you'd like some connection, nurturing and reassurance.  The kind of friend you can share those fantasies with who will not judge or laugh or hold them against you in the future.  

I'm rambling now.  There's a point here somewhere though.  I'm that friend who will NOT be around for the rest of your life and who does NOT know your family and friends and co-workers.  As valuable as deep and enduring friendships are, it can be quite liberating to have a friend like me.  Someone to explore new things with.  To spend time in the potential and possiblity of who we are, outside the roles we must be in otherwise.  Someone who will believe in magic with you and who will be your partner in attempting to create it.  Someone who can take your mind to another place so that it rests back home gently.  Someone who will allow you to be fully in your time and your experience without so much consideration, care or concern for all the others.  A friend who asks very little of you... and who will give you as much as you may want and need... within reason.
; )

Yes, there is inherently a limited scope to our friendship and boundaries to be maintained.  This is it's own category and creature of "relationship".  However, I do believe mutually beneficial and enjoyable relationships (and even enriching and healing ones) can be built and I love to meet those who are looking for something more than a simple good time - even if that is all we find when we meet.  I never begrudge one a simple good time, I enjoy that myself as well!


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Kathy let me add, while I appreciate the honesty, the outlook you have on some people isn't that great. I would never clump people into the ugly or fat category which is very superficial. Yes there are people that are less attractive than others and less fit than others, that doesn’t make them freaks or monsters though. Some of my best friends are a little overweight and in some peoples view less attractive. That does not make them less of an individual. How you stated it sends off a really bad vibe to others. You can simply say you are not attracted to your clients and wouldn’t date them in real life, which is less demeaning than your posted words.

Also not all 'clients' are as you described. I am a little different than the regular hobbyist, I am 28, fit, single (and love it), casually date, and have many activities that I do in my life. I think your outlook on people is a little skewed by maybe tv and movies. Not everyone has movie star looks and believe me some of those movie stars are uglier than the people you are putting down with your comments. Maybe not on the outside but definitely on the inside.

Well not everyone likes their job, and of course it is an act. I am glad to see that you don't falsify what you provide.

Your honesty is refreshing.  Your attitude is disgusting.

Yes, money is involved.  As it is with ANY job.  Does that mean you can't enjoy it?  That you enjoy it only because you're getting paid?  No.  Some professional athletes, photographers, even some escorts actually LIKE what they do... while doing it for money.  Believe it or not.

-- Modified on 6/29/2006 10:40:04 PM

you must have had some bad clients/experiences...

Not all my clients have sweaty balls, fat belly or stinky ass and stinky breath nor  are  even that old...   with some of them I  really  have a connection and  with  some of them  there is  even a  great atracttion.
I wish  you  have better  experiences in the future..
Good Luck !
Laura