I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself.  I am the administrator of TER.  My name is David but most of you know me by “Staff.”  Over the past few years I have heard many rumors about my promiscuous behavior.  I generally try to ignore them realizing it is par for the course.  Recently, rumors generated by certain providers have forced me in to a position of defending myself.

The provider known by the alias “Amy Taylor” posted a message, on the general board of a competing review site, stating that I “removed all positive posts that men made about me, and refused to let me even join discussions”  because she would not have sex with me.  

I feel that it is important people know the real story of how this provider, and many before her, have lied in an effort to hurt the reputation of this site.  I have included the message and all related emails.  Hopefully, after carefully reading this, the truth will be self evident.  Please take special note of the dates and times these messages and emails were posted.

SUBJECT: That site's owner is frightening


Posted by Amy Taylor , Fri, Jul 25, 2003, 14:39:52
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I have had my own issues there, falling out of favor because I would not agree to be picked up and brought to his home to "date" him (sans pay, of course). When I finally told him I would be happy to go out as business associates, but that I would not be coerced into sleeping with him, he removed all positive posts that men made about me, and refused to let me even join discussions (even though I have been a paid VIP member for two years). When I asked him what his problem was, he did not reply...my membership was simply cancelled.
In my humble opinion, he has lost control of himself. That does NOT bode well for his site...organizing crime while pissing off people, and attempting to control the success of ladies by attacking those who will not sleep with you and removing so-so reviews of the ones that do (yes, there are a couple who do "see" him, and their mediocre reviews get removed very rapidly...many members know this) doesn't constitute good business practices.

While his site is totally unneeded for me, I worry for his future. His emotional instability has caused him problems in the past, and will likely cause him problems with this business venture.

Ladies, don't worry about this--escorts were around WAY before TER, and will be arond WAY after. His site doesn't drive the industry, your services do. In short, he needs the escort business to have a review site; you do not need TER (or any review site) to be an escort.

From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 1:19 PM
To: TER Admin
Subject: Please delete incriminating comment about me

Dear Dave, et al:

Please take my name out of the following comment, posted on your public board:

http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/ViewMsgBody.asp?BoardID=1&Page=1&Messageid=71468

Because this calls me a prostitute, I would like my name removed.  I enjoy compliments from any and all posters, and will of course have to deal with any insults (!), but given my life situation, I cannot have a comment on your board that insinuates that I am a criminal.

Thanks in advance, and sorry for having to bother you about this.  I have told this poster, through TER Private Mail, to refrain from making comments like that (while they are obviously unfounded) in the future.

Thanks,

AT

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From: TER Admin
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 1:40 PM
To: 'Amy Taylor'
Subject: RE: Please delete incriminating comment about me

[REAL NAME EDITED], if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck... there is a good chance it is a duck.  

I will be happy to remove your name from that post, but you will not be allowed to be mentioned from that point on and any posts including your name will be deleted.  

See, the thing is, almost every other provider who has asked not to be listed here is also not allowed to post or be mentioned on TER.  IMHO, if I respect a providers right to privacy (which technically they do not have because they advertise their services to the public) then I do not want to take the chance that they might be noticed (and their privacy trampled upon) on my message boards.

You have been an exception.  I have always allowed you to "do your thing" on TER even without reviews.  

It is your call..

-- Staff


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From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 5:07 PM
To: TER Admin
Subject: RE: Please delete incriminating comment about me

Dear Dave:

Hi there.  Fine...have it your way, Dave.  I will deal with [REAL NAME EDITED] myself, and he will learn the hard way what it means to disrespect my request not to be incriminated.

I trust you will moderate this moron [REAL NAME EDITED]?  His violation of a specific person's request for privacy deserves moderation...it is analogous to me posting his wife, daughters, and home address on the Net (tempting, but I will refrain unless he does anything like this again).

I'm so sorry you have protected him...but I understand, as his 10,000 reviews probably earn your site a lot of business.  Shameful...but I understand, as I have a mortgage too.

Good luck, and thanks for the tactful response.


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From: TER Admin
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 7:34 PM
To: 'Amy Taylor'
Subject: RE: Please delete incriminating comment about me

Let's see.  

148,837 Total TER reviews - 32 submitted by Rocky123 = 148,805 reviews left.

Your assumption of the economic value we place on his reviews is highly overrated.  

What really concerns me is a couple of threats embedded into your email. I have always respected you for being an intelligent, beautiful and dangerous human being.  I had really hoped that this mutual respect would keep your more negative traits in check here on TER.  

Apparently, you see posting a compliment about an escort (that advertises her name and services publicly) on an escort review site the same as posting his wife, daughters, and home address on the Net?  I am sorry, I do not agree.   What is even more frightening, is your statement "I will refrain unless he does anything like this again" which implies that you would carry this threat out.  

Your email brings up great concern for the safety and privacy of the TER members who enjoy your services.  In light of this, I believe it is best that TER disassociates itself with you at this time. I have completely deleted the thread in question.

-- Staff


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From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 12:05 AM
To: TER Admin
Subject: RE: Please delete incriminating comment about me

Dear Dave:

I understand your opinion...my threats were, in fact, to refuse to see him again!  LOL...I'm way too busy (and smart) to harm anyone...even those men who definitely have deserved it in the past.  But you're welcome to think and do whatever you like.  I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors, and harbor no ill will toward you whatsoever.

Cheers,

[REAL NAME EDITED]

When Amy relized that I had deleted a thread promoting the "Amy Taylor Fan Club"  I recieved this:

From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:34 AM
To: TER Admin
Subject: Fwd: Some positive posts on you deleted on TER

Dear Dave:

Thanks a lot!  That's pretty darn immature, now isn't it?  

xoxo anyway,

Amy


Original message:
Hi, Sedagive had posted a very nice comment about you on the TER general board.  I replied with agreement suggesting we should start an Amy Taylor appreciation fan club.  My reply was never posted and Sedagive's original was deleted.  Possibly you did it, and if I had inadvertantly said something you didn't like, I apologize.  Otherwise, Dave must have decided to not
allow it.  Anyway, have a great weekend, no baby yet, I'll let you know when it happens. xoxoxo [REAL NAME EDITED]


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From: TER Admin
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:39 AM
To: 'Amy Taylor'
Subject: RE: Some positive posts on you deleted on TER

Because I stand behind what I say, I am childish? Remember it was you who asked post to be deleted that might infer you "did anything illegal." I think those posts qualified for that.

-- Staff


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From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:54 AM
To: TER Admin
Subject: RE: Some positive posts on you deleted on TER

Dear Staff:

We must have a case of "he said, she said," as I was told the posts were NOT graphic.  I did not read them, so I cannot be sure (and to be honest, I don't care that much).  But since you responded, let me waste a few more seconds of your time (ha ha).

If they were indiscreet, then great...all the better.  If they were NOT, as I was told by Sedagive and Ballsofpower, then I thought it was kind of shallow that they were removed.  That's all.

I never said you were childish for standing behind what you say.  If you deleted discreet and kind posts about me for no reason other than to avoid mention of me as a quality person, then you ARE immature.  I have attempted to be clear...do not reword my comments.

xoxo anyway,

Amy

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From: TER Admin
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:14 AM
To: 'Amy Taylor'
Subject: RE: Some positive posts on you deleted on TER


I have never once posted anything negative about you.  Even though you had requested to be delisted, I allowed you to post and be promoted on TER (against the rules) because I believed that you were an asset to the community. After our last set of emails (the ones where you were making threats against a member's family and employment) I became VERY uncomfortable exposing the membership of TER to what could be a potentially dangerous situation.

At this point I informed the GND to not allow posts, positive or negative, about you on TER.  I did not read the recent posts.  They were deleted per my previous instructions.

-- Staff


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From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:41 PM
To: TER Admin
Subject: RE: Some positive posts on you deleted on TER

Dear Staff:

I understand your opinion, and I realize that you think you are making a judicious decision.


Best of luck,

Amy

When Amy relized that we had not posted a message she had written she sent me this:

From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:06 AM
To: TER Admin
Subject: Moderated post not printed on site?

Dear Dave:

I posted a message in response to a thread started by Rocky123, a member of your board who knows me quite well; the post was not put on the site.  This is not the first incidence of failure to print things that I write...is there a problem?  I have paid for VIP membership for many months now, with the assumption that this money allows me to post on your boards (with moderation, I understand).  I am concerned that if my posts are not permitted, then perhaps I am wasting funds being a paid VIP member.

Thanks for your attention to this, and I hope you are well as usual.

xoxo,

Amy


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From: TER Admin
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:37 AM
To: 'Amy Taylor'
Subject: RE: Moderated post not printed on site?

[REAL NAME EDITED],

As I stated in the earlier email, de-listed providers are not normally allowed to post on the message boards.  I made an exception in your case because I believe that you added value to the boards. (And you were a cool chick)

A few months ago you asked for someone's post to be removed that mentioned your name in association with this hobby.  When I did not, you emailed informing me that you would out him to his family and employment.  At this point you became a danger to the community.

You are a very well respected and intelligent young lady.  After reading you email, I removed the entire thread and I told you that I it would be best you and TER went our separate ways.  I did not ban your account, but I also informed the moderators not to approve your posts (as I stated via email).  

I just cancelled your VIP membership.


David


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From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:46 AM
To: TER Admin
Subject: RE: Moderated post not printed on site?

Dear Dave:

You are mistaken.

I told you not to allow posts that say I am a criminal...is that understandable?  Seems like part of the English lexicon, but perhaps we have communication difficulties.  I realize some people fail to understand polysyllabics.

I never said that I would definitively out Rocky to his family and employment.  By the way, we see each other all the time, and are good friends...there is no threat to anyone, as he has understood what I ask for in return for continued meetings with me.  He has complied, and therefore everything goes smoothly between us.  Relax, Dave.

You also said a few weeks back that you would remove all posts ABOUT me, Dave.  You have upped the bar, now saying that you are interested in removing all communication from me also?  This is not what you said before.

You might try being honest with yourself, Dave...this is about my refusal to sleep with you.  We both know that, and I'm sorry that you are so stubborn when ONE escort will not do what you wish.  Many people know about the ladies currying favor with you by seeing you (they tell people themselves)...it's truly a shame that you feel so retaliatory after my refusal to give you sex for consideration on your site.  That's NOT the way
I work.

Best of luck, and do be careful.


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From: TER Admin
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:03 PM
To: 'Amy Taylor'
Subject: RE: Moderated post not printed on site?

It is so funny how you turn that around. Every provider who does not get their way on TER pulls the "because I would not sleep with staff" card.  

I had allowed you to post for years on TER as a de-listed provider even though it was against policy.  Only AFTER you sent an email threatening a member, did this change.

It is very disappointing to me to see this course of action.  I have read your posts over the years and had a very high respect for you.  I have always tried to help you out when I could (remember the plagiarism deletion?) Is this what it has all come down to?

-- Staff

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From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:05 PM
To: TER Admin
Subject: RE: Moderated post not printed on site?

Dear Dave:

Look--the escorts who you DO sleep with TELL people that this is going on...these are not unfounded rumors based on nothing.  You DID ask me to come over and sleep with you--we both know that.

And leave Rocky and I alone, will you?  Why are you so obsessed with him and/or me?

Dave, you have tried desperately to affect the careers of escorts, and you have really pulled out the stops with me.  I will continue be successful without you...so let's call this game over.

Look around, Dave--you are pissing of people right and left (male and female).  Are they ALL wrong about you???  Try to examine your own behavior, before pointing the finger at everyone else.  You have some fundamental character flaws that will not serve you well, and everyone in this community
knows it (except you, apparently).

I have to go--going out for a wonderful evening with someone who behaves well.  Whew.


*****************

From: TER Admin
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:57 PM
To: 'Amy Taylor'
Subject: RE: Moderated post not printed on site?

[REAL NAME EDITED],

Maybe you are right and I overreacted concerning the threats you made against Rocky.  You have done the same exact thing in the past with the reviewer "Bigfoot" (not sure of the name) when he posted about you on TER and the provider you believe leaked from the TBD provider board.  I see a trend.

I will allow you to come back to the message boards under the following conditions individually:

1. You admit that you did threaten Rocky's family/employment via email (whether or not you intended to go through with it.)

2. You agree not to threaten ANYONE else on TER and acknowledge that if you do threaten ANYONE on TER again, you will be banished. No complaints from you.

3. Just play nice, this is supposed to be fun.  If it is not, you're doing it wrong.

I think this is fair.

-- David

Amy posted this on a another review sites general board:

SUBJECT: That site's owner is frightening


Posted by Amy Taylor , Fri, Jul 25, 2003, 14:39:52  
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I have had my own issues there, falling out of favor because I would not agree to be picked up and brought to his home to "date" him (sans pay, of course). When I finally told him I would be happy to go out as business associates, but that I would not be coerced into sleeping with him, he removed all positive posts that men made about me, and refused to let me even join discussions (even though I have been a paid VIP member for two years). When I asked him what his problem was, he did not reply...my membership was simply cancelled.
In my humble opinion, he has lost control of himself. That does NOT bode well for his site...organizing crime while pissing off people, and attempting to control the success of ladies by attacking those who will not sleep with you and removing so-so reviews of the ones that do (yes, there are a couple who do "see" him, and their mediocre reviews get removed very rapidly...many members know this) doesn't constitute good business practices.

While his site is totally unneeded for me, I worry for his future. His emotional instability has caused him problems in the past, and will likely cause him problems with this business venture.

Ladies, don't worry about this--escorts were around WAY before TER, and will be arond WAY after. His site doesn't drive the industry, your services do. In short, he needs the escort business to have a review site; you do not need TER (or any review site) to be an escort.


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At about 1AM I recieved a response to my email
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From: Amy Taylor [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:04 AM
To: TER Admin
Subject: RE: Moderated post not printed on site?

Dear David:

His name was "Bigjake;" good memory on your part, very close.

I have no idea what you're talking about with "the provider I [sic] believe leaked from the TBD provider board."  There was someone I thought leaked, but I have never been sure whether or not that was a man.  Frankly, I don't care...karma always gets people in the end, so whoever it is will suffer for their lack of ethics.  I don't need to do anything to him/her for he/she to suffer at some point.

I'm pleased that you have decided to consider allowing me back, but I will not admit that I was threatening Rocky's family and employment.  He and I are VERY good friends, have gotten together many times, and talk or email daily.  We know each other well, and our relationship is based on trust.  
When I said I would "deal with him myself," I meant that I would communicate to him my desire to be discreet.  He and I have no problem now, as he has learned what I ask of gentlemen if they wish to see me.  He didn't initially know, and I don't blame him for thinking I might be as indiscreet as some of
the ladies I see in his reviews.  He was wrong about me, and understands that...we have moved on, and I suggest you do the same.  As I told you before, I don't need or want to harm anyone...I have not harmed the few men who have ripped me off, and I have not even harmed the two who have threatened my life.  Do you really think I have the time or energy to harm
someone for being a little brash in their bragging?  David, you must think I have a lot of free time.

When I said that I doubted Rocky would enjoy being outed to his
family/employment, I was drawing an analogy to my breaking his expectation of privacy...I meant that he would not enjoy me being indiscreet any more than I enjoyed him doing so when he inferred that I was a criminal (you and I have discussed why it's not okay for "Amy Taylor" to be called a working
prostitute, and I continue to be appreciative of your keeping my traumatic past private).  That's ALL I meant, and there was never an intent to harm.  

Again, David, I understand your desire to protect your members, but you are worrying about NOTHING.  Rocky and I could both ruin each other's lives easily, but that will not happen.  We have an enjoyable professional relationship, and I am certain that will continue for some time.

I will think about your offer...the fact that you have repeatedly deleted positive commentary about me that was discreet and only meant to guide members to a lady who would treat them well (thereby silencing your own supposedly-valued members), and then deleted my commentary simply meant to
chat, not even including any marketing or my link, has made me angry.  I'd like to cool off before I respond about being a part of TER...I'm sure you can understand.  It's nothing personal, but I'd really like to think about it before I respond in any rash manner.

I will be in touch.

Best,

Amy

I would like to recap the story:

In May:  
Amy Taylor asked for her name to be removed from a post complimenting her on the message boards.  I informed her that if she wanted this removed, her name would no longer be allowed on TER.  She wrote a response hinting threats against a member’s family. I asked her to leave TER.

In June:
Amy wrote in complaining that a thread had been deleted that was promoting her.  I once again reminded her that I had instructed the moderators to delete any reference to her. I stand behind what I said.

On July 25, 2003:
Amy wrote in complaining that her post in reply to a message was not posted.  I once again remind her of why she is not to be mentioned on TER.  She now claims that it is because she would not sleep with me.  

At 12:57pm on July 25, 2003:
In order to keep peace in the community, I backed down from my position.  I was willing to allow her to post and be mentioned on the message boards under three conditions:

1. Admit that she did threaten Rocky's family/employment via email (whether or not you intended to go through with it.)

2. Agree not to threaten ANYONE else on TER and acknowledge that if she did threaten ANYONE on TER again, she would be banished.

3. Just play nice, this is supposed to be fun.  If it is not, you're doing it wrong.

At 2:39pm on July 25, 2003
Amy posted on a competing board stating that I “removed all positive posts that men made about me, and refused to let me even join discussions” because she would not sleep with me.  She failed to mention any of the facts in the issue and fabricated her own self serving information.  I will leave the judgment up to you.

-- Staff

I would hope you would be smart enough to not use your position to ask for freebies, unlike a website owner/discussion board moderator we are both familiar with (and is a pal of Amy's, too). The rest should be discussed privately. You do get the props for coming out with this, but read on...

As for Amy, it is unfortunate someone who has obtained the success she has in this business is so emotionally troubled. Now you know why I almost always refuse to be screened. Trust me on this, for every problem client, there's a problem provider. Amy has reviewed a good friend of mine on TBD, and lied about it, she has reviewed high profile people on TBD, a famous name in Hollywood (Oscar winner, I believe), and lied about it when confronted. And Amy, if you're tuning in at home, there's at least a half dozen women I can get copies of those reviews from, too. Better call Charlie quick!

Felicia Foxx noted quite some time back that some clients felt part of the rates she quoted, because she was higher end, implied there was a license to write a review afterwards. For the longest time I saw it her way and was chary of reviews. When the review sites came out and providers started manipulating the market on the boards, I started writing because the free exchange of information from a trusted source was the only defense against the blatant cyberpandering going on TBD, Blue Pond, etc. I have always tried to balance a representative portraying of the experience while at the same time maintaining the dignity of the provider. It's not always easy.

While I could understand FF's discomfort, what is patently clear is that part of the contract with the provider is that she doesn't kiss and tell, which is what Amy did close to three dozen times on TBD. I'm quite surprised that a site which purports to be responsible as TER does would give her any room whatsoever.

Common sense would indicate when you play ball with the wrong people, others might be chary of letting you play in their yard.

Now my question for Staff, and it's a tough one, why does this happen to you and not the guys on Redbook? Amy ain't the only one tossing stones at you. Perhaps it's a Hollywood thing?

Dave

I am not sure if this puts you in a better light or not. I may have to read it again.  But in any event, her points are valid and she puts up one hell of an intelligent rebuttal each time.

And another thing, do you post about every provider that bad mouths you on other boards? Or was it just because she is well known and respected. If so, this board would have a lot more of this type of mean spirited information all over it.

Please, allow my comments, good or bad to be posted. I think at this point, pros and cons on this need to be heard so to  evaluated this post.

Sounds like a disgruntal provider with a maturity problem and a need to whine.

As for whether you asked her to sleep with you, seems to me it would be cheaper to avoid her all together and see a more cooperative provider.

Her comments and threats (implied and otherwise) sound like sour-grapes to me.

As for me, in the future, I would just assume you keep this on the moderator-only board and allow the rest of us to enjoy the discussion boards in peace.

Thanks. Just my opinion and I could be wrong, but in this case I seriously doubt it.  For those of you that think I am coming up short/wrong on this one, please feel free to speak to the hand or take your comments to Helen Wait.

i'm still waiting for helen to get back to me about an appoitnment. i think she has retired.

i'm glad staff has brought this up tho. anyone that threatens to disclose personal infor should be avoided at all costs.i feel sorry for those that have gotten mixed up with this little girl. hopefully they can break ties without any bad consequences

discussion.

Since we, as members, reviewers, posters of TER, contribute directly to the welfare of TER, when rumors and accusations surface about this site, I believe they merit some discussions.

Obviously this is a touchy subject, not something most members want to involve in.  As this is a moderated board, there are always some skeptism about whether all the relevant info are presented here.  Regard to that, one can only try.

-- Modified on 7/26/2003 10:12:07 AM

ladies when they were caught behind the scene self-posting reviews.

As far as Amy Taylor is concerned, please excuse me for posting links to your previous exchanges with her in LA board.

is that soap-opera even around anymore?  rumour [sic] had it that Laura turned to trickin' to support Luke's coke habit, no?  LOL

perhaps it's best if i didn't take sides in this, but i can't help but prosletyse a favourite [sic] golden rule of mine, one that Amy should perhaps heed: "Don't sh*t where you eat!"  

i think one (perhaps the only) cogent point Amy made was the proposition that escorts have been around long before TER and that they'll continue to be around long after. while immediately true up to the first clause, i'm not so sure this will necessarily be true in the second. the escorting world (at least the high-caliber end of it) HAS "gone digital" and things will most likely NEVER be the same for this niche of the market (incidentally the one that Amy is evidently frustrated in not being able to mold to her liking)


as for "he said, she said"  and the veiled threats at exposing a client ("the cardinal sin") ... well, i'm not in possession of ALL the facts ... and frankly the only fact i care most deeply about is the one casually disclosed in the above email exchange:

  "148,837 Total TER reviews" -- TER Admin


now i can finally publish my tractus on score distributions with unparalleled levels of statistical certainty!  LOL

1. Staff has always posted all my posts, unmoderated, within seconds. Even now that I am an inactive provider, my posts still are posted immediately.

2. Staff has always removed all bogus reviews I thought were suspect within 24 hrs. Even though he didn't know me, he gave me the benefit of the doubt. I appreciate that.

3. Staff has never asked me to sleep with him (which is good since I not a f/s provider anyway) Nor have we met, spoken, or had any contact other than e-mail. I did not even know his name.

4. When I wrote to tell him of a looming custody battle, he removed my reviews within hours and offered his sympathy and told me I could return if/when I was ready

5. What if he DID ask Amy to sleep with him. No harm in asking, right? The point is, did he try to blackmail or censure afterward because she said no? I don't think so.

From the information presented here, my feeling is that Staff is a decent guy. I look forward to Amy's response if she is allowed to post here.

from my 13 months observation in TER boards.

I have never met Amy Taylor in person and have only a limit exchange with her in LA chatroom couple of times.  I had posted a somewhat rude comment about her in my early days of being a poster in LA board.  After being enlightened by other members about the proper etiquette, I apologize for my rude comment both in the board and when I met her in LA chat room.

Based on her reputation and other members' comment, I have posted a few messages about her in response to some ISOs: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/ViewMsgBody.asp?BoardID=34&Messageid=1021 .

Early this year, I noticed an exchange of responses between Number 6 and Amy Taylor in LA board -

Number 6: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=60673&boardID=1&page=

I was a bit surprise to find that she had openly admitted to what Number 6 claimed in his post -

Amy Taylor: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/ViewMsgBody.asp?BoardID=1&Messageid=60922

Ever since then, I refrain from giving any recommendation in my responses about her.

As for the deleted message Staff mentioned in his post, even though the message has been deleted from LA board, if one check the message immediately before and after the deleted message, one can easily tell exactly what it is about.

Message posted right before the deleted one: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/ViewMsgBody.asp?BoardID=1&Page=1&Messageid=71467

Deleted message: (Message id 71468)

Message posted right after the deleted one:
http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/ViewMsgBody.asp?BoardID=1&Page=1&Messageid=71469

Since the deleted message was posted by Rocky123, you can draw your own conclusion of what that was all about.

Given that was what is involved in the deleted message, I found it troublesome about Amy Taylor's email reaction to it at all.

I am not trying to have her besmudged here, just to present what I have observed in the past.

As far as the part regarding Staff and other delisted ladies, especially regarding Candy Kemp, Dman and Claris, unfortunately I have to drop off my friend to the airport right now, that part of my observation has to wait till later today.

To be continued...

GC

A public fight!!  With sex, violence, blackmail, Hollywood stars, expensive call girls.  You gotta start charging for the forum if you're gonna branch into the entertainment biz.

I've got to say, I have found you to be fair in your dealings most of the time. And in this case, letting Amy continue to post and advertise after she asked to be treated differently from all the other escorts,(oh, but she doesn't do that does she, lol) was more than fair.

I commend you for the way you deal with us, after all, this is your domain, and you determine the way we interact with each other. I have found that you are very busy watching over our sometimes childish antics, but with a little patience our concerns get ironed out and generally, all involved are satisfied in the end. There are very few places or circumstances in our lives that we find everyone involved is completely happy.

Very good points. Normally I don't get carried away and prefer to keep some anonymity; however (this is my chat room alias and it is not hard to find me there) here is the point/question I have

staff has a hard job and I am not just sure many people realize it or care (try reading every review posted for one day for all locations, checking all websites etc and reading all posts and replies on all sites). I don't always agree with them but I respect their judgement (if I figure out a better way, I'll suggest it to them).

If staff decided to make an exception for AT in the interests of the board, the public, the members, good for them. It shows they are trying to maintain the community in the interests of all.

Here is where I take a small departure. If a provider requests that they don't want their reviews listed then staff should honor that request so long as that is the stand the provider takes on all boards which would include (IMO) her not giving reviews of any kind on any board.

This is a forum to review the fantasys of providers with privacy for all of those reviewing. If a provider delists here and allows reviews elsewhere, then she is singling out this forum. I also feel that a provider should not review clients. I would never consider going to a provider that did that. I am not against screening and exchange of information in several ways to alert providers and to assist in any manner that would prevent harm to them or to help keep tham safe. Because of a forum like this, knowing who is well reviewed etc helps us keep safe, there should be means to keep a provider safe.

None of this is directed directly at AT (who has always been a lady in the chat room) as I am not sure that all of this directly applies. It is offered to staff as a few thoughts and ideas that may or may not help keep this forum as a lively and safe place for the exchange of banter and ideas.

OK - now you can flame me.

Pig - I think you would have said it better!

I can not believe how this has gotten out of hand!
Maybe she did threaten me to Staff but I doubt she would ever have gone thru with it!
She did PM me regarding the post and it will never happen again. I do respect her private life and hope she and all other respect mine too!
I believe that it would have never happened and I know too much more about her now and we both could incriminate each other heavily!
So lets just drop this whole thing or drop my name out of it!
PERIOD!
Rock

"Fascinating", said Spock.

This is the most interesting thread I've read on any MB in a long, long time.

David did the right thing in posting this.  Once anyone tries to run a smear campaign, it's time to call it quits.  If I were you I would not let her back at all.  Allowing her to come back, even with the terms you lay out is merely playing a game that can only go wrong.  

As far as threats of outing, that's straight up serious business and has long been anathema in this industry.  Even a indirect veiled threat.  As serious as providers take their safety, we take our anonymity equally serious.

Rocky, you say things as "Maybe she did", "hope she", and "I believe".  Your decisions are your own, but I'll say this much.  If my mindset regarding a potential disaster situation was filled with words such as "Maybe", "Hope" and "Believe" I'd expect one of my friends to lay the business end of a ball pean hammer right between my eyes.

It seems to me that the former Iraqi Information Minister may have a new job . . . . .

Peace out.

--Colin

Anyone willing to play in this game of a hobby better be willing to also suffer whatever consequences may come there way. BTW it sure is getting interesting looking at all of the points of view on both of the boards.

Well ... I was wondering what Staff's first name was!

This is indeed an interesting thread .. mainly because you can see how a simple difference of opinion got out of hand.

Amy .. hon .... bad news, babe.    You ask to get delisted ... you become non existent - simple as that.  You don't get to be deleted in reviews, bad or otherwise, yet continue to promote yourself anywhere on the site.   Worse ... you wanted to come back .. on your own terms ... and even THEN Staff was willing to consider it !!!!   Then ... you post a derogatory on another site????   WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING??????

Stop drinking the idiot juice, sweetie!!  TER is a business.  A pretty big one from what I understand (although I'm sure the name came from way back in the day when TER did actually mean THE (one) Erotic Review .... wonder who that first one was) ... um ... where was I ?

Oh yeah.   Amy ... with ALL this going one .. .and Staff even takes the TIME to correspond with you over this issue?  Consider yourself lucky, sweetie .. because unless flaming monkeys fly out of your ass during a session ... you ain't special enough to deserve the treatment you've already been getting, let alone what you seem to expect?

Does this really come down to you being unwilling to sleep with Staff?   I doubt that.  There are undoubtedly a TON of providers that would be willing to sleep with Staff, Staff Assistant, Staff Friend or even Staff Infection if they thought it would help their careers ... and I have to believe that Staff has a whole separate mail bag for the offers he gets!!   Moreover ... *IF* Staff were to avail himself of even a fracton of the offers he must get ... Staff would be known as "The hollow shell of the man formerly known as 'Staff' that is FAR too spent, far too unmotivated and far too satisfied to give a rats ASS what goes on around here."  The hobbyists around here know the danger of leaving work and getting a 'nooner.'  You come back to work with a pretty laze fare attitude, right?   Imagine getting a morning, early break, nooner, afternooner, dinner break and nightcap"   Would you have the time to put up with Amy?

Amy .. in my opinion (also known as the "right" or "correct" opinion) you have to accept the fact that Staff was ALREADY crossing the "B/s" line by even continuing to converse with you .. and that your posting on another board was SO FAR ACCROSS THE LINE .... that you have no right to expect to come back here ... EVER .... on ANY terms.

One last thing Amy .. as far as Providers being around long after TER ....   Amy ... by the time TER is gone .. you'll be WAY to old to be a provider.

Amy Taylor doesn't know what she wants anymore. She gets on every advertising site available then calls them up and threatens lawsuits from her and her lawyer. Trust me I know this through dealing with her directly. She really needs to get off her crack pipe.

And to be quite honest....her pictures are way out dated and she looks way older than 20 something in her photos (more like 40 something).

Well, I suppose I am happy that Staff responded appropriately to a potential threat to a hobbyist by a provider.  Although in reality she could "out" any of her clients anytime she wanted to without being a member of the board.

If Rocky123 knew all of this was going on, then it would have been nice if he would have mentioned to Staff that he knew this was going on and would deal with it himself.  I would imagine it would be hard for staff to know what Rocky's and Amy's relationship was since Rocky may have reviewed a lot of people but never Amy and he was never heard from.

TER is not very strong where I am at, there is no Dallas discussion group, few reviews of OK providers so I do look at the other sites on occassion but TER is strong where I travel and hobby.  So no ther board would mean I would have to fly blind where I live and that is ot the way to go.  I  am not sure I care what Amy says on the another board.  This is really starting to sound like a domestice dispute where the neighbors call the cops and then both the husband and the wife turn on the cop who shows up at the door.

Amy and Rocky should fight in private.  Staff did the right thing to restore the peace.  If Amy wants to pay and act like a responsible citizen like all the other citizen, she can come back to the board as soon as she tells us how she can get clients at $12k/day.LOL grin

Went over to the other board, did you know they recommend this board by the way for reviews?  Anyway they are supporting their Amy 100% in her fight so why oh why she would ever want to come back here is completely beyond me,

"Trust me on this, for every problem client, there's a problem provider." I'd suggest that the ratio is much higher -- being a client is a "normal" activity that doesn't really run the fringe of emotional balance; being a provider is much more stressful, obviously.

In my experience, nearly every review of mine that's ever been discussed on the 'net has, eventually, led to a catfight of some sort in which, basically, the provider started inventing remarkably unsupportable lies. Sometimes she was caught out by her own creativity, sometimes I just had to bite the bullet and look bad, sometimes she got banned. I'm not banned yet. These ladies are loopy, most of them. I, too, refuse to be screened 99% of the time. It's simple common sense, not to give personal information to someone who doesn't give hers back to you.

What happened here ... correct me if I'm wrong ... is that she wanted OUT, then back IN, then made up fake reasons for why she was out. The forward-backward is already condemning (as long as "Staff's" story is true, which I think is the case, personally).

she just takes your cash to make sure you don't spend it unwisely on prostitutes which might get you in trouble with the law or your SO.  She's just doing it to protect you.

Best,

Comical Ali

PS: Don't believe what you see and hear on CNN we are just taking down the statues for cleaning.

1. This is Staff's board, so Staff's rules go. You don't like it, play in someone else's sandbox. If you've left, and want to come back, again you play by Staff's rules.

Simple enough, we all should have learned this back in kindergarten.

2. Don't dignify this dispute with any more posts. Y'all want to lie down with dogs, expect to rise up with fleas.

3. Providers who threaten to out their clients violate one of the most basic rules of business: Don't piss off your customers. They'll just run to your competitors, of which in this particular business there are no end. Furthermore, each'll tell 10 of their friends and family, and you'll never be able to stop the tidal wave of bad feeling. Thus, you'll not only have alienated your existing customers, but lost at least 10 times that number in future customers and repeat business.

I will get off my soapbox now.

But if you have to pay to FU*K the duck...  Wouldnt it be a prostitute?  And it really seems that Ms. Amy doesnt like that word associated with her.
Reality Check!!!!  Time to step up to the podium and first admit your true profession, that is the first step to getting the help that you seem to so need.
Any provider that would even "threaten" to out one of her clients should be black balled from the community.  Amy sounds to me like a bomb that is way overdue to explode.  I for one will not put myself in the position of triggering her.  I cant believe that any other man , knowing this, would do so either.  By her own admission, this is something she was ready, willing, and able to do.  Lets see a show of hands, who would like Ms. Amy calling your wife?  I for one would like to live the rest of my life without that happening, I guess I will not be calling Ms. Amy!

Not 12k as you said above.. She never charged that high a rate a day. Just to clarify. Not sure how the hell she gets even 5k a day with how she has behaved and what not, but she never charged 12k... you're thinking of someone else.

You people have problems.  Why a site owner would air his dirty laundry like this stumps me, and frankly, turns me off.  Why wasn't the post just taken down instead of you Staff, making fun of her and calling her names as well. The duck comment, IMO, isn't professional and sounds like a high school boy comment. You don't hear us going around calling you guys "Tricks", but in reality, you are! (If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, right?) You prefer being called hobbiests, and we prefer being called escorts or providers. I don't know Amy, but I know that right now if I were her, I'd be feeling pretty hurt by all your comments and posting private emails for all to read.  

Oh, and the guys saying for her to go run to Charlie, maybe you are in a hole too much because there are new owners over there now and have been for some months.  Get with the program.

Say to me what you will, but this site seems to always leave a sour taste in my mouth. For some reason, people over here seem SO overly rude and nasty, and the site allows them to.  Does that give you all an orgasm when you act that way?


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With "ph" and not "ff"  ... Let's hope "Staff" is NOT infected.

I can present detail observations about previous posts and reviews of delisted and reactivated ladies.  I have been a keen observer in couple of those cases and I can convince myself that the accusations by those ladies are problematic at best.

However, since I really don't know the persons involved and my main source of information are what I can observe in TER which couldn't show the complete picture, it would be hard pressed to convince the skeptics.

As far as the episode involving Candy Kemp, Dman and Charis (Sorry to misstated her name in the previous message), one can check the following links and determine for themselves what is the truth (BTW, Charis initially had a review of her in the midwest.  Later on, when she was represented by Candy Kemp, new reviews of her were posted which were the core of the problem.) -

Charis's initial announcement in SD board: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=11026&boardID=7&page=

(She was reviewed under Kitten in Nashville then.  When I posted a link to Kitten's TER profile, that thread was deleted the next day.  Please noted that the link she posted was a link to a webpage in Candy Kemp's website.  It is obvious Candy Kemp was representing her.)

11 days later, here is Dman's initial promotion of Charis in LA board: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/ViewMsgBody.asp?BoardID=1&Messageid=64944

Candy Kemp's message about helping Charis with her website: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=65006&boardID=1&page=

Staff's discovery after a LA member's alert: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=67163&boardID=1&page=

AmyTaylor's take on that at the time: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=67172&boardID=1&page=

Staff debunked the Kinko theory: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=67199&boardID=1&page=

Dman's defense of Candy Kemp and Charis: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=67312&boardID=1&page=

Staff's response to Dman: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=67367&boardID=1&page=

Dman's subsequent thread in General board about this matter: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=42380&boardID=12&page=

Staff's respone to Dman in General board: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=42404&boardID=12&page=
(Please note this quote from Staff: In my last private mail to you I stated, “I am not saying she (Charis) will not be reinstated.  But, currently, without some more information, I cannot.” I am still researching this issue and will keep the class updated on what I find.)

Staff's decision to ban Dman from TER: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=42432&boardID=12&page=
Dman's last letter to Staff: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=42435&boardID=12&page=

BTW, since Staff had publicly delisted Charis's original profile and reinstated later, there are charges from Dman that a deal had been struck between Charis and Staff.  Dman claimed that Charis showed him Staff's email to her during a trip in a laptop he gave her.  Strange indeed.

Charis's announcement in LA board a month or so after these episodes: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=71538&boardID=1&page=

A LA member HiProGlo's response to her return: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=71587&boardID=1&page=

My response to the past events involving Charis, Dman and Candy Kemp: http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=71593&boardID=1&page=

Charis's TER profile and reviews: http://theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=23509&page=1#Review .  One will notice that Dman's review was there but the other suspected reviews were deleted.  In 6/2003, there are a couple of less than stellar reviews.  If there were deals struck between Staff and Charis involving exchange of favors, she could easily have Staff pulled or disapprove those reviews.  After all, if reviews are the main focus and exchanges had been done before to protect the reviews and profile, why not do that again to eliminate bad press?  I believe those are strong proofs that nothing untoward had happened.

I might be naive and wrong on this matter.  I do understand that power can corrupt.  If I was in Staff's position, with the power he had, I can't say for sure I will act absolutely above board.  

However, since there is no concrete proof of evidence to support the charge made by others while there are some, though only a few, other facts that counter it, one has to give Staff the benefit of the doubt.

As I stated above, there are a few other observations I had related to some deactivated-reactivated LA ladies.  Not sure there is a need to present those here as other members seem to want to move on to other issues.

GC

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next to Gloria Allred and/or Johnny Cochrane, if i ever get charged with a crime i would want YOU to defend me!

are you a private eye in real life?   or just a private dick?

LOL

My first draft of this involved 6 ladies (4 deactivated - reactivated ones and 2 delisted ones) and over 1200 words.  But I thought better about it.  That is why it took me over 24 hrs to post the 2nd part.

I don't think I would place this much time and take that many risks if I couldn't believe in the integrity of this site.

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(Cause of modification: Wrong word counts and bad grammer)


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I am surprised that no one, I mean no one speaks out for Ms. Taylor.  I guess that tells you who's right and who's wrong.  I believe Staff did the right thing.  AT is just another provider who has lots of issues.  No wonder all of a sudden she has ads every where, even on craiglist for christ sake.  She must be very desperate.

-- Modified on 7/28/2003 6:23:22 PM

I will speak out for Amy Taylor. She is not a sorry ass on crack at all and has more Brains than you! Why don't you use your real name and not hide behind an alias like most of the little boys on this damn post!

Sounds like a remake of a Morgan Ashley post! Everyone hiding behind aliases and blasting the ladies who they can never see.

Funny how most of these posts against her are from people who do not know her and have never met her or most of the top ladies in LA! And yet in hiding behind your little ass, alias name you degrade her and probably many ladies too.

Maybe she has had problems with staff but I, Rocky, can tell you she is one of the nicest, sweet and real ladies I have met indirectly thru TER! And the whole threat was alleged to be against ME!

I have no problem with her at all and see her often!

She wants discretion and should get it even if it means being banned from TER. And trust me this will not hurt her reputation at all! Amy will do just fine.

If staff does not post this then I know that I am wasting my time here, after being a distinguished ter member for quite some time now, but I am tired of a bunch of Aliases putting her down. Grow up boys!

I know there are other men out there that are on this board but afraid to speak up. Because they are afraid to be banned! Come on, this site and forum should be free to voice any opinions.

In these days of "he said/she said" posts, reading the original emails does give one helpful information to make our own judgements.

Occasionally I look at the "TER Mail Bag" discussion board, where Staff publishes letters and TER's response to such letters. So far I have been impressed with Staff's reasonable approach, even to threatening letters. He always seemed fair in his dealings with both hobbyists and providers alike. (Disclaimer--I've never met him or had any correspondence with him.)

I would like to make a comment about providers not wanting any reviews published: when I started about six months ago, I was considering asking TER and other boards not to post any reviews of me for privacy reasons.

Then I looked around and realized review boards were popping up all over the place as this business becomes more mainstream. I just can't be the Review Police 24/7/365, constantly seeking out boards to hunt down and destroy my reviews.

It seemed much more efficient to be part of the system, to post comments, and to allow reviews (and check their accuracy of course).

Not only do I have some control in the process, I do reap the financial benefits of the favorable reviews on my TER profile. Perhaps a well-established provider doesn't need any message boards for business, but for a newbie like myself, TER has been great.

If a provider wants to be low-key and fly below the radar for privacy reasons or LE concerns, then by all means, I respect her decision and she should have her reviews pulled and become inactive. But then neither should hobbyists write about her, nor should she herself post (because that will draw attention to her name). I find it hard to believe a provider concerned about LE and criminal activity would want a thread about a fan club in her name to stand. That's not exactly flying below the radar, LOL.

claimed that Amy Taylor was high on drug, especially crack.

She might have too high an opinion on herself.  She might have a dark side to her character.  She might receive too many praises to see that she is just one in the crowd.  She might be under a lot of stress lately as I knew she had at one time last year when we chatted in LA chatroom.  She might have set her goal too high to increase her clientele right now.

On this matter, I sided with Staff as I don't see any proof to support the allegation.  However, to call an educated, beautiful woman who had accompanied many fine gentleman, though misguided as she is right now, a "sorry ass provider on crack" is, in my humble opinion, beyond the pale.

Let's not get emotions run wild.  JMHO, a civil and rational discourse is the best way to counter such charges.

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Guys, this is not a "Bash Amy" thread.  This is just my rebuttal to AMY's post on another board.  

It is unfortunate that this thread needed to be started but I really wanted the opportunity to show our side of the story.  Amy Taylor is a good provider and has earned a certain level of respect in the community. I do not agree with her post, but have brought all emails related to it into the light for the community to make their own judgments.

I have always been impressed by the professionalism of TER members.  It is times like this that we need to remember, no matter what your personal opinions of a provider are, a certain level of class is expected here.

Thank you for all your support on this issue.  Please no more "Bashing"  

-- Staff

to speak their own minds even though this is a moderated forum.

Maybe my circumstances are different from many others since I am single; have no concern about my job situation; most of my family and friends know I see escorts often.  I value my own independence status above anything else.

As in other public relation's matter, it is better to let things air out in the open rather than cloaked in secret and created unwarranted conspiracies.  There are normal procedures setted up in TER for the sake of precaution and moderation which might not work well in this case.

Unfortunately, as in real life, it is very hard for third parties to know the exact truth.  However, it shouldn't contraint a thoughtful person to comment on this matter even though the information is quite limited.  I know I could be wrong in this matter but I have to trust my own judgment.  There are just simply too many problems in AT's account.

Rocky, I feel for you.  I hope you do keep faith, not get caught up in the whirlwind and become jaded.

Allowing dissent is a tough thing for one to do.  However, it often yields handsome dividends.

Enough said.

Sometimes communication done via email just doesn't work.  I've seen people interpret things totally different if there was a direct conversation rather than emails.  I believe this is one of those cases.  A tone of voice or how something is said has much more meaning than the actual words.

A graduate student, which Amy claims to be, knows that copying another person's words or ideas and not giving that person credit is plagiarism, which, in an academic setting, is considered academic misconduct.  It's always dishonest.

Compare http://www.myredbook.net/cgi-bin/dcforum2/dcboard.pl?az=show_thread&om=27567&forum=general#9 with http://www.bayswan.org/stats.html

An essay she posted about Veronica Franco was taken word-for-word from a thesis on a university professor's webpages.  It was here: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~engl891/revoltingren3.htm , but the prof has moved: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~engl891  http://www.clas.ufl.edu/~rburt/everafterlives/howard.html


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Staff, would you please clear up on Rocky’s comment?

I am not an active poster on any board and probably never will be.  However, I enjoy reading the discussions on the TER boards to glean some information about this hobby.  Today, Rocky’s comment surprised me.

What makes Rocky, who is a supposedly distinguished TER member, to say such thing:  “I know there are other men out there that are on this board but afraid to speak up. Because they are afraid to be banned! Come on, this site and forum should be free to voice any opinions.”

I do not think that even an owner of TER should have this much discretionary power on this board.  Are we living under the dictator?  Am I wrong? Thanks.

Very thoughtful and well done.

The fact that his post was approved should answer your question.....

Sorry GentleAman,

I am just telling it like it is. The truth, and it is nice that Staff does allow my opinion posted. Most of the time.

And yes, many men hide behind Aliases, then bash others. I, for one, never hide behind an Alias.

Rocky

and do things differently than what other people expected.

Since I spent a lot of times reading TER boards and reviews, there were things I observed that other more busy members probably didn’t notice.  When an issue was raised about the integrity of the administrator of TER (Staff) and by extension this site, since I am a contributor to the content of TER (1000+ posts, 50+ reviews), I felt obliged to make a judgment about this matter and shared my thoughts with fellow members.

I have my own doubts about this serious charge.  I tried to verify part of the charge by contacting a delisted-relisted and subsequently delisted lady.  Unfortunately, what she told me was different from what I remembered, so I can't trust her accounts.  I understand that she might not feel comfortable telling me everything since I was still a stranger.  In any case, right now I can only attribute that as a disgruntle complaint from someone who could no longer get her ways here.

As for the charge of me placing Charis's name in the middle of this matter, since claims were made about Staff's dealings with Candy Kemp and Charis, there is simply no way not to mention her name while presenting what was posted in TER forum.

I don't know what happened behind the scene.  I believe eventually the truth will come out and Karma will pay a factor in most events.  In the end, I could be shown as a naive fool or someone not yet jaded and cynical to believe the most negative rumors.

GC

Rocky123 wrote, "And yes, many men hide behind Aliases, then bash others. I, for one, never hide behind an Alias."

LOL... Then please post your real name on your driver license along with your SSN please.  Or is that an alias on your driver license also?  LMAO...ROFL

brand new, only used since 6/29/2003 in LA board.  Since you asked for the whereabout of lustman and DataAMan, I assume that you're an old time TER member, just recently comes back to the fold.

Why don't you simply admit that you used inappropriate language in your previous post?

It is time to move on.

I HAD to respond after reading things like she's a crackhead, etc.....That was just an uncalled for cheap shot...She's no crackhead, nor is she some sorry ass....

Amy is beautiful, passionate & the smartest provider I've known....She's well-educated & can hold a conversation on any topic....This is not hyperbole, just the truth...I've only met her once, & am hoping to see her again in August....She is an amazing person.....

people like number 6 who only see 'K' girls @ $50 range, make it their business to voice their opinions about something that is not even in their league.  We all know you can't afford girls like AT, so instead of wasting BW here, just go make an appointment at your favorite MP and call it a night.