donations? Is this a new trend in the "GFE" menu? I know I am going to sound "prude" or "old fashioned" but I am amazed by this menu being offered. Hoping to understand it a little better. Thank you for your time,Devin

I too am amazed by this trend.

But ... it had to happen.   The Internet is just about the world's best method of information distribution (especially if you don't care about accuracy).   TER addresses that accuracy issue in an elegant way while encouraging the stream of information.

The Professional Sex Industry is becoming more of a buyer's market every day ... so ladies are slowly having to compete by offering more ... for less that they had to do years ago - and the trend will continue in our favor.

A perfect example of a free market unfettered by government regulation.

Ahh...this is a topic that boils under my skin! I had this discussion earlier this year and vehemently disagreed. Bottom line is I will NOT compromise my principles, nor the safety of my clients and myself to 'compete' or to follow a 'trend'. If that means I lose business, so be it. I'm looking for certain types of men, and they will be there; the others won't. And that's fine with me.
This girl is no lemming..

Forgive me....I've only been seeing providers since 1965 so am a bit new to this, but even w/ the translation of NQNS, I'm at a loss to understand what this discussion is about except for the veiled lesson on economics, which is that the Internet provides for almost perfect distribution of information, which results in a free and almost perfect market.  But I don't think that was the point -- so could someone please translate the above messages for us newbies?

I take it that you see "NQNS" providers. Do they charge more than providers that do not perform this service? Do you consider it part of an GFE experience? Thank you,Devin

Wow! I am way over my head! I cant imagine that being a requirement for it being a good time for me. Don't get me wrong if she wants to thats fine with me, but only because she wants to. lol. (Like she might actually WANT to?) See there I go again, understimating this. I guess there might be people that love it as much as it seems guys love getting it. lol

I'll say it again, Im over my head. Back to the many dates... the wineing and dining and then blah blah blah. Can't it just be a simple exchange of companionship. Wait there i go again. it seems to boil down to sex and money! I'm so stupid!

To me, GFE is being able to make me believe that we mutually love what is going on. pretty simple?

The quick answers, but of course we should chat about it.

I realized that I really don't know if the providers who do NQNS charge more than those who do not.  I shop for the service and then decide whether or not to book.  I have never been asked for more $ for that nor have I ever seen any one who listed Anal as available for extra.  To me the price is what it is and the service, I assume, will be similar to the cumulative reviews.  I can't say from my shopping habits that I noticed if they were just more $, in general, than those who don't or not.

I like NQNS just fine, thanks.  It isn't so much for the issue of swallow is kinky or a turn on, it's just that for me, I really don't like suckus intreuptis.  When things are gettin close and feelin great the last thing I want is for the wonderful feelings to suddenly be replaced with a HJ.  Or worse, a sudden pull off and I'm on my own.  

After I've popped then, in a sense, I could care less what you do with it.  But I will admit that it does seem sort of tacky to jump up and run to the toitie.

I have had some providers who actually had a "spitoon" by their beds (incall obviously) which was...well OK.  I have also had providers who I knew from reviews and chat were not swallowers, but I honestly don't know what the hell they did with it if they didn't swallow...I'll admiit that I didn't go looking for the evidence afterward either.  Those are just as good as NQNS, can't tell the difference.

I can't say I've noticed any trends toward it becoming an issue of finance in the hobby.

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FWIW, i wouldn't worry too much about adopting this service if it's not your cup of milk [cough] sheerly to match the "competition" ... frankly, i know a sizeable # of gents who couldn't care less about the NS part

ergo:  NQ goes a long way towards "completing" the "oral contract" that binds the provider and the hobbyist together!  

I must painfully disagree with Megapig on his post. I can remember the good old days when a provider (of course they were not called that then) charged considerably less than today's provider and always offered an "around the world experience" as part of the evening's events. My experience with today's provider is that very few will even consider a Greek adventure as part of the "standard" package or they expect a "bonus" donation if it is to be offered. Today, a GFE experience is to be viewed as something "special" and which commands higher contributions from the gentleman. Again, this used to be standard fare with an upscale provider of the past. Now, don't get me wrong here.... I am not talking about your typical street fare type of lady offering those services and ladies, don't jump on me over this as I love you all and the work that you do. Inflation does occur in our fair country so why should this business be any different from any other. Guess the bottom line for the hobbyist is to be very clear in your discussions before hand with a provider as to what is being offered for the $$$$$$$$.

the answer is no.  I believe that there are providers that are comfortable with NQ, and some of them are also NS.  And some of them don't go to completion.  But $$ has little or nothing to do with it. Simply comfort level, and perhaps some YMMV thrown into the mix.

I will also say that all other things being equal, I would opt for the provider that is NQ over on that does not go to completion(NS is always optional in my book).

Trips to Greece, on the other hand, usually cost more.  Some gals factor that service into their base rate, while for others it's an "up charge".  Since I was never enamored with this service my preference would be that it were an ala carte option.

I've never been charged more. While "NS" is not a big deal to me one way or the other, "NQ" is, IMHO.  Greek is another story. I expect to pay more for the "premium" service.  You have not preferaced your question by inquiring about "covered" vs "BB".

P.S. You look great in the Score layouts

As Dennis Hopper said in "Blue Velvet"..."Suave!  You are so suave!"  Forti, you are one classy guy.

As Von Ryan says, "Cheers!"

If you were seeing an Asian provider ...


would you simply choose one from column A and one from column B?

Personally ... I'd rather have the bj go to the finish ... covered or uncovered, spit/no spit doesn't matter to me.

Jimbo

milk.  Or something else opaque.  I admit I'm also new to this, but am semi-conversant with English.  Yet, still as much in the dark as r_bear11 regarding the "NQ" part.  Fortitude seems to imply NQ relates to Greek in some way....

Got the NS part.  First really serious girlfriend insisted on this.  Had to be in mouth, so she could swallow (or on face – almost as good) but almost anywhere else was regarded as “bad aim” and required, I mean REQUIRED, a second attempt.

Sorry to be thick.  "No Quit" by the numbers please.  Thank you-  

Do Lemmings swallow too??   lol

Speaking as a hobbyist who specifically seek NQNS out exclusively, I can tell you that the $ varies.  Some of the best have been very reasonable ($$/hr) while others were fairly expensive ($$$$$/hr).  I admit that I occasionally will see a NQ-only provider but that's rare.  Also, for me, it has to include at least NQ to begin to feel like GFE and a good NQNS is definitely GFE.  Its so funny how people's tastes are so different.  Guys in this thread talk about paying extra for anal.  I've never paid extra for anal, never asked for it, and only did it upon the provider's request.  The tightness kinda bothers me...I know I'm wierd.  Its probably partially due to my disdain for condoms.  Hey, to each his own right?

First of all let me try to clear up some confusion.  I also have been in the hobby for a long time and have never heard the term NQNS.  I take the no quit to mean BBBJTC.  The no spit means swallow don't spit.

I have never seen this service as a separate upcharge item and hopefully it will not become one.  Some ladies offer no BJ, some CBJ, some BBBJ, some BBBJTC and some swallow.  If many cases it may be a YMMV issue with the lady.  In some cases if you are a regular you may have started with a lesser service but over the years now get a higher level of service without asking.

As an earlier poster stated I don't think that the $$ necessarily has anything to do with this service.

Personally if I was looking for a trip to Greece I would tend to avoid a provider who has made it an additional service.  In my mind I would be wondering whether the provider was just trying to make some extra $$ or whether she just really did not like to provide that service but would for additional $.  I would tend to have the same question of a provider who listed NQNS or any other level of BJ as an additional service.  

I think NQNS has been around both before and after a period in the 1980's where almost nothing was ok.  During that period Daty if it was allowed was with saran wrap or dental dams.  Kissing was out etc.    

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OK STUMPY, that cleared it up.  Thank you for explaining!

Thank you

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