Previously, several people have asked about Cialis, Viagra etc.  Before going down the Rx route... There are herbal supplements that you may wish to explore...  But of course, you would wish to consult with your physician prior to working with these.  Below is a previous post that I made....


You may wish to try going to a Vitamine Shoppe (made by Twin Labs)  and obtaining a product called "Male Fuel" that is pretty good.  There is another product, Stamina Rx,  a little blue pill....  wow, that is incredible...  both contain "ground up" Yohimbe... which contains the active alkaloid yohimbine... and the products also contain the amino acid arginine which is necessary to produce NO...    See the abstract below, draw your own conclusions....   There are other studies, and the mechanism is well worked out...  

"We measured nocturnal penile tumescence with the RigiScan monitor, hormone profiles, answers to the Florida Sexual Health Questionnaire, and clinical responses at baseline and after two different doses of yohimbine in 18 nonsmoking men with erectile dysfunction. Of the 18 men, nine (50%) were successful in completing intercourse in more than 75% of attempts. The yohimbine responders were men with less severe erectile dysfunction as manifested by improved increased rigidity on RigiScan testing, higher Florida Sexual Health Questionnaire scores, and slightly higher levels of serum testosterone. Yohimbine is an effective therapy to treat organic erectile dysfunction in some men with erectile dysfunction.  Int J Impot Res. 2002 Feb;14(1):25-31  

Would you please translate this into English. "We measured nocturnal penile tumescence with the Rigiscan monitor" No offense, but WTF are you talking about. You claim a study of 18 men and conclude that Yohimbine is an effective therapy to treat organic erectile dysfunction.

Excuse me but, Get the fuck out of here!!! What are you smoking? My inbox is still full of crap like this, in spite of SPAM blockers.

Please, go peddle your snake oil somewhere else.

First and foremost, I posted this in good faith - as several discussions have appeared on this board about viagra, cialis and other "wonder" drugs.  This was meant for them.

The point of my post was to give interested people, a heads up, with respect other materials that have been in HUMAN clinical trials and that are available OTC (over the counter) and proven effective in achieving and maintaining an erection.  Or, to put it into monosylabic terms that even you may understand - TAKE THESE PILLS AND YOU GET WOOD.  BTW, I did not conduct these clinical trials, I do not profit from anyone anywhere taking or using these materials under any and all circumstances.  Just passin on info... kinda what this board is for.  

Sorry to have challenged the one or two neurons left, and that you may need for vital functions.

I've had both Male Fuel and Stamina Rx and they didn't do a thing for me. I took the Stamina Rx after I took my 2 Cialis and 2 Levitra and right before I took the 100mg Viagra and still couldn't feel any difference.

The reason I posted this is, I've taken viagra, no results, Male Fuel doesn't do much for me, but Stamina does... I guess the YMMV applies to this stuff as well... One thing I will say is if I "overdo" any of this - the headache is really a killer... and very much a downer for any session with a provider that I may have planned!  

Thanks for the info!

It also raises blood pressure dramaticaly. If you allready have high BP you could stroke out...

I noticed no betterment with viagra.  Ciallis is wonderful.  Better than when I was 20.  I can withdrawl from my partner.  Do some extended oral on her, maintain the errection the whole time.  I can maintain as long as i want which has not been an issue, but be ready to go again almost immediatley.

Yes YMMV definitely applies. The first few times I tried just Viagra by itself gave me a huge headache as well. Then when the problems continued and I started combining drugs, the headaches faded away. It's like my body adjusts to them and along with them not working, I don't get the side effects either.  

-- Modified on 3/23/2005 7:33:04 AM

Stamina naturally is the best RX

made me woozy, jittery, nauseous... worst dope I ever took, Viagra give me a headache and my pecker feels numb from being too hard... the only thing that cut it was an amino acid called DL-Phenyalanine that Vitamin Shop also sells. It can't be the plain L-Phenylalanine, it has to be the DL form....you only get moderately stiffer but the quality of your orgasm is stronger, sometimes much stronger, and the afterglow lasts longer. There is a scientific reason for this, the DL form prevents endorphins from breaking down, when you orgasm you produce a ton of endorphins, when you take DL and have an orgasm the endorphins last longer.... there's certain meds you aren't supposed to take with it written on the label.. so read the label, forget about the Horny Goat Weed...

porn, lube and some good old fashion pu$$y? This is sex we are talking about?

Right?

Did I miss the hobbiest memo or newsletter about having to impress the ladies with my ejaculate amount?

Even if I couldnt get hard, a few hours with nettie would be just about the funnest thing I could think of.

hustle on my dear!

I also take Yohimbe (Hell I think I've taken just about everything else too) and I made the mistake of taking one right around the time of my evening meal. It also made me very jittery and I could not sleep. So what I do now is to take one first thing in the morning and one at lunch and I have no problems.

Like I said before, all of this stuff works differently on us. There is no way I would advise anybody to take as much ED meds as I do. I take 2 20mg Cialis, 2 20mg Levitra and a 100mg Viagra and they pratically do nothing for me. Plus I don't get a headache or anything.

Like all medicines, you have to take what you are comfortable with and what works best. Some things that might work for somebody else, might not work for you.

you must have wood enough to build a house taking all that stuff. Damn man, I would have a freakin haeart attack just because of the blood loss of my pecker exploding!! God bless ya man!!!!!!!

Question:  If they aren't working, why do you still take the drugs?

I am able to just get enough of a weak erection to finish but it's over very quickly. I guess all of the drugs amplify what very little libido I have.

You would think that wouldn't you? But I still have a lot of trouble getting a weak erection even after taking all of that stuff. The problem is that I have no sex drive or desire. This happened after a reaction to a drug about two years ago.

Try physical fitness.

SEE YOUR DOCTOR AND GET ANDROGEL(TESTOSTERONE IN JELL FORM)YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVEL IS BELOW NORMAL FOR YOUR AGE. I HAD A STROKE AND
MY LEVEL  WENT TO UNDER 200 NOW IT IS AT 750- HIGH END IF YOU ARE OVER 50.BETWEEN THE PILL AND THE JELL THE URGE IS THERE AND SO IS THE WOOD.YOU WILL BE HORNY 24/7 LIKE YOU WERE AT 19.JUST A THOUGHT.

and I don't know if it does anything; I'm looking for a placebo effect.  I'd strongly suggest EXERCISE and a LOW FAT diet. Not that I do either --? --   I'd also suggest you read Andrew Weil and Gary Null...........

If it burns holes in the carpet, you've done the right thing.

My testosterone level is 1157 and I'm 39 years old.

Will try the DL-Phe.  I must admit that the first time I took Yohembe, I did not notice the effect - same as you describe, but that was, in my case, not long lasting.  I did notice that the DL-Phe does moderate the feeling from Yohimbe....  so, many thanks for the tip...

Reont be surprised....

...if other men get hard just standing next to you in the elevator!  My god man, with that cocktail you should sell your blood on ebay to capture the secondary aftermarket.  On a slightly more serious note, I cant imagine you could be taking such massive doses without following rigid Drs. orders; I pray you get yourself into the hands of both a great urologist and a great endocrinologist, since that kindofa dose should not be necessary in a 39yold.  Strong well wishes on getting a better handle on it, if only to save your pocketbook.  My heart goes out to you for the cost - you would blow my budget on the pills and the hotel room, leaving nothing left for the provider!