women, please rate penis size for me. just meet a new girl.she said her x was a pencil dick and dumped him after they had sex for the first time after dating for six mnths . i am 5 to 6 depending on how aroused i am.i guess average thickness i use a reg condom, they dont fall off, lol. even broken  a few. just wanted some input from the ladies. i know i can just ask her or show if she asks. just wanted to here from the ladies.             1inch 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12inch

is a 6" thick as good as a 9" thin?

Well, no matter what, any answers given do not alter the reality for you, right?

If every lady posted on here that they 'tolerate' anything that is less than 8 inches, what difference would that make to you?

We're all dealt the cards we have, and we do the best with what we have.
If a man is small, then he can concentrate on other areas such as foreplay.

Are you saying he's small?

Ah, the age old question.  "Is my cock big enough?"  Personally, I think you're looking for love in all the wrong places.  Think about it.  If what you say has even a grain of truth to it, she is going to make you wait SIX MONTHS!!!!!  And then she's going to ridicule the size of your penis and impune your masculinity.  I, personally, have paid for such services, but you sound like a nice, normal, confused, young fella who deserves more from a relationship.  Besides, you're posting on a hooker board, which probably means you're not the "patiently waiting" type.  The guys who post here are mostly interested in instant gratification.

Oh, and I think you already KNOW that 5 inches is pretty small, right?  You're obviously looking for the ladies to stroke your ego -- which is cool in my book.  But let's not kid ourselves here.  You're asking women who have had ALOT of sex, and who've seen every kind of penis that there is, to basically be impressed by your little noodle.  That just doesn't make any earthly sense!  The bottom line is simple:  take my advise and stick with the hobby.  Leave the non-pros (and especially the size-queens) to the well-hung guys.

I guess due to my huge cock-and-balls, I can only laugh at the original poster.

I've posted this before.  He was going to a brothel in Nevada many years ago.  I guess that one of the ladies decided to kid him about the size of his member by asking "who do you expect to please with that thing?"  His response was...ME.

I like that answer. I happen to play with the cards I was dealt with, and It's a crappy deal. Even though I cannot do the big nasty, I get aroused by fore play!!!!!! Thank goodness for this hobby and the wonderful Providers.

BTW, Sedona , I'm on day 12 with bronchitis, :o( I'm going to the docs Monday, to, hopefully have my chest decongested, So I can see a provider that I've been wanting to see for sometime!!!!!- DJR. If I'm ever In S.D. I'll look you up!!!

i understand everything everyone has said. just wanted you to rate the size chart. that it

It's just a theory, but I think that any guy who posts a question about penis size is probably just a fetishist who's seeking some free small-penis humiliation.  I used to know of a website that catered to that sort of thing.  Will let you know if I find URL.  

BTW, for all you well-hung guys out there, why haven't you considered a career in porno?  You're here paying for it when they could be paying YOU!

luvtofuck , you are the only one answered my ? but thanks for all the opinions

The ladies here are not engaged in their pastime purely for the sake of pleasure or finding the perfect penis.

Would a vendor selling watermelons tell you he prefers to sell only to people driving a luxury sedan?

Why would a provider, part of whose purpose in being here is to find new clients, express a preference for a certain penis size? That might not be good for business.

by being EXTREMELY rich.



Rocket

Yea, but you ain't getting to China in a row boat!

Dale-
This includes more info. than what you've clearly stated is all you care to hear. But I want to post what I WANT to post in this thread. I don't feel like starting a new one. Consider part of this just bs info. rather than as answering your question.

My last boyfriend's ex-wife also regularly insulted him by calling him "pencil dick" when they were married. Well, all I can say is consider the character of these women from whom these comments emanate, regardless of whether the woman you've met made the comment directly to him or only to you. Fine if we think and know what we as women prefer, or if we discuss our preferences w/other women or male friends, or especially if it's to be a potential business transaction, but in this case when she has no clue what size you may be---to carelessly make that comment......hhhuummmph!

Have you considered first asking her the size of what she considers to be a so-called "pencil dick"??? Why wait for her to "ask" you??!! If she plans to actually ASK you first, IMO she should have taken care of that prior to commenting on her ex-boyfriend's penis size--that is if she possesses even an ounce of tact. And this isn't some escort situation where she's paying YOU for a specific image/desire she has, so you certainly don't owe her the (absurd) courtesy of first displaying your penis to her in order for her to ascertain whether she finds your size to be worthy of an eventual screw six months down the road!!

Do you know if she ever made this comment to him directly or told him that his size was at the root of the sudden break-up after six months of getting to know him???

And again I realize your post wasn't a request for opinions regarding this woman's tact and courtesy (or lack thereof), so I'll shut up about my opinions on that now However I personally believe a man deserves to be viewed and appreciated (or seen as a jerk) based on so, so, many other more important things than penis size!!!!

Here are some facts that at least relate to your question; Kinsey studies have reported the average penis size to be 6.16" in length and 4.84" in girth.

However, IMO what I would find to be more reliable is a recent study conducted by LifeStyles Condoms, as they have a financial interest in providing the products which would target the largest market. This study, which included 300 men, showed the average penis length to be 5.877" and average girth to be a bit larger than Kinsey's at 4.972". I believe their sample size was larger than Kinsey's although I don't remember exactly...nor do I know what an acceptable sample size would be to produce a reasonably accurate result based on some desired and reasonable # units of standard deviation. But hell, as you'll read further down it's really not that important anyway.

So, according to these studies you're within what would be considered "average" in size, although you didn't mention your girth. And yes, often girth is more important in producing vaginal sensations for a woman.

I perform sensual massage so I see a hell of a lot of penises and penis variations very closely, as do the other women on this board whether escort or massage. I'd say that what I've seen to be average would be consistent with the LifeStyle or Kinsey measurements, (or actually the mode that I've noticed, since I don't measure each man and calculate a monthly or rolling average value ).

Back to the topic of my bf who was found to be unacceptable in size by his ex-wife..........well, I found him to be incredible in bed. And I'd guess him to possibly have been average or maybe even a bit smaller in size than the average 5.877" in length.

Our sex life did take what would be expected--TIME for practice in finding the best positions and the build up of comfort that often produces greater and greater experimentation, exploration, etc. But wow, when we got it down right, (which actually took very little time at all since both of us are ultra-high in libido thus the frequency of our practice was quite high!!), the way his penis rubbed my clit during intercourse (due to his smaller size in my case) was incredible. For some reason due to his size, the action in that area was just really increased. And personally I can't stand to be accidentally banged against my cervix by a big penis, and due to my being smaller framed this wasn't an infrequent thing w/my prior, (and larger), boyfriend when we'd get into things a bit more....forceful, aggressive, and animal-like ;-D. It was perfect with my last smaller boyfriend though.

And there are always plenty of toys available when a little more "filled" feeling is desired!!

But anyway, my last boyfriend was a wonderful lover and also paid attention in so many other ways. For many ultra-sensual women, it's the whole experience and package that matters. Virtually our entire bodies can become erogenous zones when a man makes an effort to explore (and vice versa)! Then the penis size becomes so much less important even if she does prefer the larger variety...And I'll tell you one thing--learn where the woman's g-spot is, how she likes it rubbed/stimulated, and your penis just may become secondary to your talented finger/fingers!!

Become a master of a couple of other things loved by most of us women (like tongue techniques) and you've got it made!!! Most men overlook REALLY learning how to excel in these areas I've found (or listening,paying attention to what we like as individuals) --especially the ones who are larger and simply take for granted that a big cock will be plenty. And I'm just saying this is in some cases. I don't mean to offend any well-hung dudes

It seems you guys ask about this so often and it would be so nice if you knew the benefits to being "average" that many of us ladies find there to be. Sure...some may love and need the huge, deep f*ck by a big one, but there are plenty of us out there who aren't too picky about that and know that as time and quanity increases, quality, skill, and creativity does too. And I don't think this is strictly dependent on penis size!

In short (long), my answer is---as long as a man is good in bed and is willing to experiment and make efforts equal to mine, I don't care what his size is. It makes no difference at all. His overall sexual skills matter much more and include a hell of a lot more instruments than his dick. This supercedes penis size for me anyday!!!! If we're comparing two men of different sizes of which neither possess any skill or sexual generosity, I just plain wouldn't care for either one! Or if I HAD to choose I'd probably choose the smaller so my cervix won't get painfully banged! But...a large man of skill would be considerate of this and avoid it Nope, the penis size alone just doesn't make a difference to me--too many other factors involved in the overall experience of a sensual love-making session.

Here's a link that will give tips on showing her that an average or below average size penis can be every bit as enjoyable..

At least for me, wanting a big cock isn't about pleasing my partner (why the hell would anyone care about that when you're PAYING FOR IT?!?!?!).  Wanting a bigger cock is about **not being embarrassed when you take off your pants.**  Period.  It's the same reason why I want to be rich and have muscles.  And the bottom line is still the same:

1- He has a small cock.  Like it or not.
2- He can't do anything to change this.
3- He'll probably have to work alot harder in bed if he actually DOES want to please his mate.  Harder than a guy with a 9-incher, anyway.  And working hard sucks.  It's what we do all day.  Do we really want to do it all night, too?
4- He'll probably be laughed at behind his back by all his ex-girlfriends and their friends.  Especially if he's a big guy with a tiny or average prick.

And that's the bottom line.

Nope..there's a line below even yours.

This TRUE bottom line is that you, in all likelihood, SUCK in bed regardless of your size. And your personality very likely rates even lower ;-D

I'm assuming you have a personal life rather than just your "hobbying"? Ha ha!! Well, I should actually presume otherwise based on what your post reveals of how pleasant of a man you must be...

But I would think that if you ever do manage to have civilian dates, these women must just love to discover that you feel practicing and developing skill in bed is perceived by you as nothing short of drudgery. Yeah, I'm sure you're quite a treat for the civilian gal!!

Wow, you could describe yourself in such riveting ways on a dating site....if you do have problems finding or keeping women (should you ever want one in your personal life) I think you should give this a shot--mention some of those sexually appealing beliefs you stated in your post. You'll no doubt attract the cream of the crop!

And you are absolutely CORRECT in your subject line remark!!! Possibly making someone feel better, especially by offering some study-based FACTS along with some FACTS regarding my own personal preferences, is bad, bad, bad. Bad me--bad girl!!

I now see and have decided, (based on your oh-so-obvious in-depth knowledge of compassion and successful interpersonal skills), that I should and shall follow your lead; I will instead try to make people feel WORSE in 2004. And like you, I will attempt to do this by asserting highly ineffective, incorrect, simple-minded statements and insults based largely on feelings of self-absorption, shallowness, along with a bit of self disgust thrown in!!

Of course, I'll have to develop these same feelings toward myself which I'm sure have taken you many years to cultivate and hone as you have....but I'm a quick learner so maybe in a few months I will find myself fortunate enough to have become just as appealing in personality as you I will then be able to spew my inner ugliness and negativity out onto the rest of the world!! Oh joyous day!!

And BTW-I've not read through much on this board so therefore am not familiar with your posts. So I'm assuming either you're joking or more likely one of those who just posts this crap in  an attempt to elicit reactions. You can't possibly be this boorish of a man in real life. Well, actually--of course you can and most likely are--but I kind of think it's more fun to laugh at and make fun of you rather than actually take you seriously.... L

There's so much that could be said in rebuttal to your post, but I'll just concentrate on #3....

Whether it's with a provider, girlfriend, wife, whoever, if you think the act of pleasing a woman in bed as "hard work", you've got problems dude.....

Wow, that's pretty mean.  I don't even know where to begin to respond. . . .  I guess "fu*k you" is a good enough place to start.  No offense intended.  I guess I always thought that, if there is one place on Earth where people are non-judgemental, it's gotta be on a hooker board.  Proved me wrong.  Congratulations.  Still, it's your right to express your opinions, and they deserve responses.  

No, I don't date, nor do I attempt to cultivate "meaningful relationships" with female persons on anything other than a professional, business level.  I have never, nor do I intend to ever, "date" a civillian woman.  I don't necessarily "blame" this on my charm or appearance; most people who meet me tell me that I am charming and not bad looking (especially for such a heavy man).  Rather, I feel that it keeps things less complicated to simply pay for my women and then move on.  Being in this business yourself, you must meet alot of men who are just like me -- perhaps they're just less transparant than I am.  

Finally, and most importantly, I feel that sex should be as relaxing and stress-free as possible.  I don't feel that I should exert myself when I'm in bed.  And you'll never be able to convince me otherwise.  What kind of a sick fu*k would PAY to please someone else?  It's not as if I'm ever going to get complaints from providers, right?  Well, maybe from inexperienced ones.  Or stupid ones.  It's my right to not give a good fu*k about "pleasing" my partner(s), and that's how I live my life, for better or for worse.

No, I'm pretty picky about my clients' respect toward me, and in making sure our personalities are at least somewhat well matched before seeing them. My personality meshes very well w/just about anyone's other than condescending, disrespectful people, or cruel bullies. Usually I just ignore and walk away--being a "Yankee" by nature I'm good at letting everything roll off my back, but the bullies whose goals are to insult the insecure others who have provoked the cruel remarks in no way whatsoever...I find those bullies hard to walk away from based on my own principles.

And like I said, I'm primarily in massage but in escorting I'd most certainly be even more particular regarding the men I see. BUT if he wanted to do nothing other than lay back and enjoy...fine--it's a business transaction. It's actually quite fun at times, again just as long as he's not arrogant, obviously cruel toward others for NO GOOD REASON, or a jerk......

But my post was referring to a boyfriend/girlfriend and personal relationships. Wow, a boyfriend doing this in bed at ALL times, returning NOTHING or being unwilling to learn, a woman would have him out of her bed in a heartbeat!

Had you truly read my initial post to Dale (the KIND post I made for which you actually chastized me), you would have seen I was referring to a personal sexual relationship, (when the better lovers do LOVE TO learn). That's what I, and most others assumed to be what Dale was referring--a personal situation. You obviously made that assumption also, as can be seen in your initial post to him.

Why on earth you keep taking my point back to the subject of a business transaction I have no clue, other than the fact that I now see you simply don't have much knowledge in the personal area when it comes to sex. So you can only speak of that with which you are familiar.

And you're absolutely right--on a message board such as this, you'd think one would NOT be judgmental over a topic such as penis size as you were toward Dale. Now THAT was MEAN. Don't dish it out if you can't take it back.

And your first post to me, (along with it's subject line!!!), gave me a very definite "first impression" of you being insensitive, bullying, and nasty by only trying to make this guy feel like "less" when it's very likely he's "average" based on factual studies....and again chastizing me for trying to make him feel better. Yeah, YOU'RE the poor, picked on victim here!

I've never liked bullies. But I will defend those who are bullied, and make my point to these bullies in ANY WAY I feel inclined to do such. If you found my post "mean", (especially in comparison to your prior post to my original, regarding things you were saying about men w/average or small penises), then I obviously hit some nerve---somewhere deep in there!! And thus I'd assume there to be some truth to something I said about your personality...You know it's the truth, and not to mention, you do project big-time.

But no, I'm not insulted and would never be regardless what obscenities you were to hurl at me! Don't worry about that...It would take my having some respect toward you in order for me to actually take offense or feel insulted by anything you say regarding my comments. Hit me with more if you'd like...the cursing is especially becoming of you! It's just that, well, I'm already far past bored by you now. Although I have to admit some of your comments still amuse me somewhat, and that's always fun

I do need to say though--at this point I admit I feel kind of sorry for you. I can see now where much of this comes from and where you're headed in life because of it....so I certainly won't make anymore points regarding the senselessness of your remarks, or any cruel remarks you may make toward others. They're actually aimed toward yourself, and that's really not amusing, it's sad.

Well, I'm still a little confused.  I never considered myself to be the self-loathing type.  But it's nice to be pitied, just the same.  LOL.  

What exactly does this mean:  "I can see now where much of this comes from and where you're headed in life because of it...."?  If this is a reference to my paying to get laid, and not wanting relationships, then you've really got me confused.  Whether you know it or not (and whether you like it or not), people like me probably make up a significant percentage of your customer base.  Do you think that I talk and act this way when I go to see a provider?  Of course not; I behave as well as possible and do my best to avoid offending her.  When I first started doing this, I actually did my best to try to please the providers I saw.  To this day I enjoy DATY, although no longer for their benefit (for mine).  Believe me, there are plenty of men in the world who believe that paying for it is the only way, and many have probably walked into your studio for a session.  The majority of these men probably don't really care about pleasing providers (or maybe they have REAL inferiority complexes -- they feel the need to pay AND please).  

I honestly don't go hobbying much anymore.  About a year ago, I began to think of it as a bad investment for people like me.  It was a combination of things:  The expense was beginning to become burdensome; I was consistently feeling empty and unfulfilled after my encounters; even the kinkiest and most repulsive of encounters were beginning to bore me (I'll spare you the details (: ); and I was frankly beginning to fear disease.  Porno is actually a better investment in the long run -- it's the gift that keeps on giving!  I do still feel somewhat unfulfilled.

By the way, I wasn't trying to be rude to Dale, I was just trying to be flip and obnoxious.  But I spoke my mind, and that's a fact.  Remember, we're writing, not speaking, so sometimes the message is lost in the translation without the benefit of body language or tone of voice.  To give you an example, right now I feel a little melancholy because tomorrow's the last day of my vacation (even the thought of going back to work makes me sick).  But I bet you can't tell from my writing.  Let me know what you think, if you're still out there.