I have loved this site since joining in May of last year, and my faith in the fairness of this community has once again been reaffirmed. Thank you for removing that review! The lady was victimized once already, being slammed in a review was the last thing she deserved after how shabbily she was treated.

I assume you're writing about Susan from NY who VIOLENTLY ATTACKED her client after he TOLD HER that he had removed all but $60.00 from the envelope?  While it was stupid of him to remove the money (and I'll even go as far as saying that he ripped her off), she NEEDS to be identified on this site as someone that is absolutely to be avoided.  In addition to the very poor service she provided during the session, she attacked her client.  This is a review site first and foremost.  Deliberately removing info about a poor performer who has violent tendacies is just wrong!  Shame on you and shame on TER for this latest action.

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Be a man and post under your real handle. The solution here is simple a re-written review needs to be submitted omitting his rip off of her which we all agree was inappropriate, and omitting her attacking of him which was prompted by his rip off actions. Finally this whole frickin issue needs to die off this board...it's geting old.

Kudos to X-man for posting his issue and subjecting himself to the verdict of the community. Note he didn't do it under an alias. Kudos to Sins for looking to avoid clouding a review of performance with a bunch of irrelevant issues. If you don't like what you pay for write it up that way....but make sure you have paid for it.

...trust me, I don't LIKE using an alias.  But when you say something non-PC about the providers on this board, you DO RUN A RISK!  

So I say to you, Mr. White Knight, you may want to re-think your man vs. pussy analogy again.

gotta agree with ole worship....as soon as you say ANYTHING even remotely bad about a provider it will be yanked of forum

have had reveiws refused to be put out due to my "harshness" in the assessment of ability and looks

You Sir are the very reason I choose my clientele with great care. The very fact that you post under an alias such as the one you chose is tasteless and speaks volumes of who you really are. Sometimes men with porcine attitudes can "hold it together" for a time but when push comes to shove, you finally let your true self come out.

Your are damn right you have to post under an alias as your true identity would circulate faster than a twister in tornado alley and you'd never get an appointment. I do not care what the White Knights say...it's all about what you said. If you were refused service because of your posts,  it would have nothing to do with what any White Knight said but your own words that would hang you.

Oh and here's a novel little alias for you...Imaputridmaggot.

Yes I have stooped, however I can stand tall after this...you can't because you hide like a coward.

And bash the living daylights out of me...I could give two sh*ts and I am not posting under an alias.

have an intelligent discussion of the subject without degenerating into a battle about aliases?

I did read your post and I hear what you are saying. However, I think be it in a review or on a post on this board you can find a way to make your point without crossing the line into abusive behavior which I'm sure gets a retaliatory reponse from the provider community.

On the other hand when you logically articulate your point even if it is negative then people tend to be more open and receptive. My post stated that I felt the review should be posted, just minus the theivery drama, simply that the provider did not provide services as expected.

I have posted a review for a provider that consistently scored 9's in performance as a 6 because that was my experience. I also pointed out that YMMV, not everyone has the same experience. I've scored a provider that was consistently scored as 7-9 in looks as a 5, not because she was unattractive (although she was definately not my type) but because quite simply the pictures on her web site were not of her nor did they even closely resemble her looks and body type. I did those things without attacking though and posted under my handle.

Worship, you actually seem pretty sharp and articulate, it's just hard to value the "objective" opionions of someone who chooses to post under the handle Worship My Cock, Cunt!

But that's just me....

-- Modified on 4/25/2007 8:51:36 AM

Violently attacked?? First off, throwing "small objects" hardly measures up to a violent attack. Did he walk away with any bruises? Perhaps a black eye? No.

Secondly, what do you EXPECT?? He STOLE from her. Do you expect her to smile sweetly and say "Oh, that's ok, I really don't mind that you just ripped me off?"

Finally, had this reviewer given her an accurate or fair review, I wouldn't have issued a problem report for it, and if I had, TER certainly wouldn't have agreed with me. TER, I have noticed, tends to err on the side of caution and allows reviews to stay unless they too believe the review should be removed. Ask any one of us, myself included, who attempted to have a review removed. However, his review was NOT in fact fair or objective. He gave her a 1-rip off when she did NOT rip him off. Service WAS exchanged, and he DID get off, even if he wasn't particularly pleased with the service offered. If he had given her perhaps a 3 or 4, I would have written TER and requested that they remove the portions of the review in which he BRAGGED about how he STOLE from a provider.

You are exactly right.  The man was a thief and deserved what he got.  He was completely out of line to steal her money and to post such a review.  TER did the right thing and you were appropriate to praise TER for doing it.  

Doing the right thing is the right thing to do, even though it will amaze most people.

Yes, thank you TER.  I appreciate that there is some effort to maintain standards on the part of TER.  Hopefully the reviewer will revise and resubmit so that the performance will be available
Thanks to you Sins for working to get this fixed.

you would just sit there and do nothing?  Maybe he should have gone to you for some pussy.

Honestly, the sentiments he expressed aren't all that surprising. Its not the sentiment I object to, just the alias he chose. The fallacy of it is what really tickles me. I have noted in my experience that the fixation for "cock worshipping" seems inevitably to be related in direct proportion to the modestness of the member to be communed with.

...If I so wanted.  I'm glad you have such thorough screening and I hope all your clients treat you with respect.  I sincerely mean that.  In light of the news that the VT murderer had recently hired an escort; you girls can't be too careful.  The reason that I'm confident that I could get a date with you, is b/c I have many great references that would vouch for me.  I've NEVER been disrectful to a provider, and I've been more than a gentleman with several.  Such that, I've been given many special favors by more than one.  So, you don't like my alias or my stand that the review should've remained?  It's doesn't bother me.  It's your right.  And yes, I may have chosen my alias with the intent to agitate (or "stir things up a little bit" as it had gotten stale).  Guess what?  That's my right.  If you've been keeping up, you'll recall that I didn't support X-man's decision to take back the majority of his donation.  The only decisions of his that I did support, were that he didn't hit back and that he wrote the review WARNING US GUYS of someone that should be avoided.  Honestly, many of you girls forget what this site is primarily about and who it's primarily for.  I chose my alias with great care.  I'm proud to say that it did what I wanted it to do.  You may THINK you KNOW me...THINK AGAIN!

...you put in the punctuation marks that I intentionally ommitted from my alias (no comma and certainly no exclamation point).  As I've stated earlier, I chose my alias with great care.  You may think I'm splitting hairs, but I do not.  However, I think you are stating things with a way TOO serious attitude.  I appreciate what you have to say, and I guess your role as "the voice of reason" was even necessary.  I also agree with you that attacking someone whilest hiding behind an alias is a chicken shit way to behave.  So let me remind all, I've not ATTACKED anyone in these posts (Not X-man, not Sins, ... no one).  I have GIVEN my opinion WHEN ASKED, I've DISAGREED, and I've used an alias that was somewhat inflammatory.  

You also seem fairly sharp.  Trust me, when I want my opinions to be "valued as objective", I use my real handle.  Maybe this whole thing has been educational to a few people, I hope so...

You probably could get a "date" with her, or with me for that matter or other providers, if it is true that you have good references and aren't blacklisted anyplace (of course we have only your word for that.

But I am pretty damn sure you couldn't get many dates with women if you didn't pay.  Or not second dates, anyway.

Now go ahead and tell us what a stud muffin you are, and how the chicks are always throwing themselves at you.  If only you weren't so busy standing in for Brad Pitt, that is.

As for your other comment in your previous post about who this board is primarily for, um, lessee... take the providers off and out of it and what have you got?  Possibly it's true that this board has a PRIMARY purpose, but it's not primarily "for" either providers or hobbyists.  Or thiefs or misogynists.  

Did I spell everything correctly?  Don't want to confuse anyone!

Gee, i'm really sad to see that my review was pulled.  I thought of it as one of my best, a little child I had sent out into the world, cruelly and perhaps unfairly abducted.

But, kudos to Sins of The Flesh.  Though in TOTAL DISAGREEMENT with her take, I can certainly commend her initiative and her willingness to try to correct what she took as an injustice.

So, i wonder, how long, if ever, will it be before some fellow decides to roll the dice with Susan?  I do look forward to the "next" or perhaps I should say "first" review of this beautiful lady with such ugly behaviors.  I may delay my leave-of-absence until that magic moment occurs.

Now, two questions to bait the audience  :

1. to the hobbyists : who's going to be the first to try his luck with Susan? Go ahead, Galahads, put yourself in my shoes.  Well, maybe not my shoes, as they were off.  But you get the idea ;

2. to the providers : who's going to consider, even on a temporary basis, teaming up with Susan and sharing an incall location?  Let's see how you like dealing with her up close and personal over time.  And let's see how you  secure your earnings?


-- Modified on 4/25/2007 9:28:39 PM

how sincere is SOTF's concern for all the hobbyist gentlemen she is so happy to know and to relate to [sorry for ending the sentence in a preposition].

I just wonder -- the next time Susan loses it, how will the poor sap fare?  Will SOTF feel any responsibility if that fellow sustains injury?  Or if the incident comes to the attention of LE?  Or if the fellow is less scrupulous about not answering violence with violence of his own?

Have you considered that SOTF?

Hope she uses some of her [no doubt] questionably "earned" monies for anger management classes.  Before either some other fellow, or Susan, winds up in an even more difficult situation.

Me, I'm still enjoying it all.

And I never thanked SOTF, wauy back in the fall when TMT rsigned as Moderator of the Politics Board, for suggesting me as his successor.  I'm guessing it was in jest, but even so I did appreciate the thought.

Just goes to show, ya never know about people.  Except that they'll awlays disappointment you.

Now, I'll even predict a response that goes something like this -- you'll never disappointment me XL1!  You'll always be a scumbag/asshole/prick/thief/cheat/insert epithet of your choice.

Yes, some of the responses have become that predictable.

Wonder if Susan has assaulted any since Fri 042007?  



-- Modified on 4/25/2007 9:22:23 PM

And that makes me wonder -- are we intended to write accurate and true evaluations of our experiences, or just puff pieces which don't hurt the feeling sof the many great ladies out there?

If negative comments are pulled or never posted, it seems that we're expected to write puff pieces. The whole point is to offer an accurate assesment, and if the assesment is negative it's not going up or staying up?

Posting guidelines prohit the use of derogatory and insulting descriptives like bitch, cunt, etc...and that's fair.  But if there's a systemic bias against negative ealuations and negative commentary, something's not right in Denmark.

My moral dereliction seems to have some unforeseen positive fallout if it exposes this.

I've got an excellent idea who this really is.

I hope you printed out a copy of the review.  Bragged?  I think not.  Throughout the whole thing, i would have preferred an honest session and a decent time.  You seem incapable of understanding this. This woman had no intention of doing anyhing of that nature. Maybe I should have just wired the money into an account for her and never darkened her door? Yeah, a virtual session.  Maybe she's up to handling that? I was just Santa bring her some Benjamins, and why the hell didn't I get the hell back up the chimney where I belong?  Excuse me if I declined the opportunity, generous as you obviously think it was, to be insulted and cheated and expected to enjoy it as well. I'm sure you treat your clients in a far better manner than does Susan.  But yet you imagine that you and Susan are as one here.  I doubt what i've done will set any trends.

And, hey, while you're at it, here's an idea : why not relocate from the plains of Kansas, even temporarily, to the urban bustle of NYC and share an incall location with Susan?  That way, you'll get some first hand knowledge of the young lady.  Up for it?

SOTF, if a client asks you, at the start of the session, to just lie down and relax and converse, or even just lie down enjoy the quiet, do you pull a nasty face, act unreasonable, act insulted, start to get hostile, turn your back on him, and generally plot to get rid of him ASAP?  Well, that's the first 30 seconds, and it went downhill from there.  Hey, if i was that repulsive, all she had to do was tell me, I would have left.  There are numerous providers in susan's neighborhood. I would have gone home and palnned an adventure for another day.


Sorry I wasn't badly injured by Susan.  If only there had been a BB bat or a crowbar or a hammer or a scissors or a cast iron skilet lying around  within Susan's easy reach, well, then i imagine at the least you would not have lobbied for the review to be de-posted.  You might even have considered, albeit briefly, the possibility that Susan just might be slightly in the wrong? But maybe i'm giving YOU trhe benefit of the doubt, wrongly?

I'm not angry at you -- in a crazy way I admire your initiative and your willingness to speak up and take action when you see what you consider to be an  injustice.  I just wish your perceptual lense re injustice might be widened a little bit.

How will you feel if Susan freaks out, even in the absence of "provocation" and injures a client?  Or if the client is more of a roughneck than my petty thief but gentle  self and responds to Susan's violence with even greater violence? Someone hurt, perhaps seriously, LE involvement, perhaps referral to the criminal justice system, a trial, prison time.  Think about it.  Nightmare scenarios, but possible.  I hope you're willing to live with yourself if anything like that comes to pass.

Yes, rhetorical questions, but do ponder them a bit.


SOTF, your success effort to have the review removed may have sown the seeds of a very bitter harvest in the future.  For the sake of both unbalanced Susan and the hobbyist to-be-victimized-later, I hope I'm wrong.

If I'm not, I promise not to remind anyone of your contribution to that sad event.

BTW, I don't know if it was serious on your part, but belated thanx for suggesting me as the Moderator of the Politics Board when TMT resigned last fall.  See, you just can never be sure about people.  And i've always liked your username -- highly creative.

I hope you follow the suggestion of several people to revise and resubmit your review.  Even Sins had said that her objection was that you had given Susan a performance score of 1 which does not match your write up.  If that score means an upsell or take the money and run, then you were being unfair by giving her a lower score than she deserved.  Personally, I think there is too much emphasis on the number.  If TER is truly fair, it should post your more accurate review.  If they don't, I'm sure many people will question the integrity and benefit of this site.

-- Modified on 4/25/2007 9:39:01 PM

No need to.  Someone has repeated my mistake and posted a review.

As a public service to the Board, I've written a new post and linked that fellow's review.

I think the best thing TER could do is re-post my review, and they can make the appropriate edits they deem necessary re the question of taking back part the donation. But not change the numerical ratings, and certainly not alter my praise for this woman's breathtaking beauty.

The reviewer was disappointed and hosed. It could have been avoided.  And he's considerably more charitable than i was or am re this woman.

But as long as Sins of the Flesh is happy, and her liked-minded folowers, so am i.

I think she owes him one on the house.  But what do i know?  I write BS reviews and have no idea of how to hobby.

Not a stud muffin in the Brad Pitt vein.  Just a 40-yr old, bald guy.  Not too fit, but not out of shape either.  Wouldn't know too much about the dating prospects you posed.  I've been married for 15 years (and we dated for 7 years prior to marriage).  My wife makes more $ than me, and she knows of my hobby, but doesn't really like it.  But she keeps me around, mainly because I'm a good guy (GREAT father and I make her laugh).  I haven't hobbied in over 6 months, b/c things have been juicy on the homefront.
Go ahead, keep thinking that you know me!

If you guess correctly I'll "Amen" it!  And that's a guarantee.

Thanks, things are finally starting to get interesting!.......

No, no-one knows anything about those who post on a board under board names and in your case pathetic aliases. All we do know is the "image" one portrays and I deeply dislike yours. Your arrogance is  amusing. You would never get a date with me( not because I feel I am any better than the next person, but because of who you have portrayed yourself to be). As I said..your true character shone through your thinly veiled attempt at being a decent guy.  If you were so decent you would have posted under your usual board name and not worried any backlash. You chose to be a mean spirited SOB.

I'd rather yank out all my teeth with a pair of pliers than be in the same room as you.

Honestly, I don't think I've been mean-spirited.  Certainly not to the extent as you, take the $, or to some extent Sins (although she didn't start out that way and may have only gotten there through frustration).  I used an alias that you found infammatory and stood on some issues that you didn't agree with me on.  I've explained myself and my actions/beliefs without resorting to insults...something that you can't say.