I am one of the members who pays for the privalages and does not do reviews, other then Victoria from  n.y. who obviosly is very special.
I am an OLDER gentlemen with a MUCH younger and ambitious wife..    I seem to be one if the few who is looking only for self satisfaction, without effort, is this really that unusual, because thats the reason I see escorts..

and your point is????

"I seem to be one if the few who is looking only for self satisfaction, without effort, is this really that unusual, because thats the reason I see escorts."

He seems to think (or at least to be questioning, although the subject line "Let's be real" imlies a challenge more than a question...unless he actually meant that he wants to be like the singer in Cypress Hill that more people here see providers "only for self-satisfaction, without effort" than are willing to admit it.

I guess that argument could be made that almost EVERYTHING we do in life is about self-satisfaction to one extent of another (I mean, even Mother Teresa got joy out of helping the destitute), and I think most people's goal is to find a way to get that happiness with as little effort as has to be expended in doing so.  

Again, though, I think his implication is that for all our manners (ahem!) and conversations on the boards, what we are really here for is to get our rocks off and leave.

So, if I am right in that assumption, then my response is:

Sigh.

Maybe that's what it was when I first encountered TER in 2003, as I hadn't seen any sort of provider for almost six years prior to that and at that time, I was still seeing streetwalkers.  However, it wasn't about that for me even sometimes with streetwalkers back in the mid-90's (although it was much more of an exception then than the rule), and once I met my first escort through TER, it has thankfully almost never been about that since, which has provided much richer experiences.  

I feel lucky to have not had my experiences here limited to just "self satisfaction, without effort".  With a little effort, I have had experiences that I will remember for a lifetime.

You aren't alone. Men like you are a dime a dozen. Does that make you feel better?

What self satisfaction do you get from escorts that you couldn't get on your own? It seems to me if all you were after was self satisfaction that you have many other options that would involve much less effort, like masturbation or indulging in pornography. Unless you are really saying that when you see an escort you don't even speak to her, just give her your list of demands and let her do all the work? If we are being real, I doubt that is what you are trying to say.

My favorite clients see me for a variety of reasons, and they all put a lot of effort into our meeting, even if the final ending they hope for is just to "get off." Some clients I honestly believe aren't even interested in the sex - gasp - I believe they are looking for someone that will actually listen to them, not just hear them, someone who has interests other than what their SO's, wives, girlfriends have, they want the excitement of someone new because it equates to passion to most of us.

My guess is you get a lot more out of seeing escorts than just self satisfaction.

~Varenka

Eugene does need to expand on his line of thought here.  The way I first read it, his message sounded like something a stereotypical macho jerk might say, a jerk who claims he can get any woman he wants any time he wants and "pathetic losers" have to pay for it.  But he'd also be calling himself that, too.

Am I in this hobby for self-satisfaction?  Well - yeah.  Do I pursue it "without effort"?  Hardly.  There's still screening, there's still finances, there's still "date anxiety."  But is it easier that traditional dating?  In a sense, yes, it is. There isn't as much worry about putting yourself out there, wondering if the lady is going to go to the movie with you or tell you to go jump in the lake.  There isn't the uncertainty of just how she might perceive and like you, as a friend, a lover, a potential mate, or just somebody to pay her way into a movie.  Of course, with a civvie, there also (typically *g*) isn't the worry on if LE is going to knock on your door either.

If Eugene is talking about how this hobby alleviates uncertainty in a date, how it's a relatively "no fuss, no muss" situation, then, yes, that's one of the reasons I'm in it.