Do any of our lady friends have any experience dating a client ... Well, I mean in a traditional fashion?

Any marriages or long-term relationships?

Any fellow gentlemen ever have a truly meaningful and traditional relationship with a provider?

Is this a possibility or a pipe dream?

From the ladies perspective, what are/have been the obstacles and/or secrets to success?

From the gent's perspective, what are/have been the obstacles and/or secrets to success?

Very much appreciate your insights

Yes it can work.  The relationship will face the same ups and downs of any other with the added stress of you knowing your girlfriend has sex with other men for a living.  You should be as sure as you can be that you can cope with that before your persue any relationship with her as it would be unfair to demand she gives up her job a little bit down the line.  

You don't have to believe that all providers are money-grabbers just after you for your money (as is often stated on threads such as this).  Providers are actually human with real emotions just as you are.

I've made some very dear and treasured friends amongst my clients.  I've also recently fallen in love with somebody I met as a client and whom I genuinely want to be in a relationship with.  It happens, make the most of it when it does

Appreciate your frank insights .... Seems that she wants out of the business .... Of course, I can not accurately predict the future, re: will there be problems related to how we met? .... Will she face internal challenges derived from her time in the business?

Setting aside the age-old argument on this board about why you would want a relationship, (I don’t really want to hear one more time, what Charlie Sheen has to say about paying a woman to go away, or anything his Dad has to say for that matter), I think most here would live life to a fuller degree, if they could find the right person to share life with. We are all wired differently, so the key words here, being “most”, and “the right person”.

As with any relationship, learning to trust each other, forgive the mistakes, share in the joys, and understanding the other’s pain, all take an investment in time that both parties must be willing to make. The additional stress of “the business” on both of you will also make communication a big part of your relationship. Better get a cell phone plan with unlimited minutes…

I met a beautiful woman here who I fell in love with. We have a wonderful relationship that grows better as time goes on. At times it does have its challenges, but facing those challenges together is what helps us grow stronger. Yes our circumstances could be better, but at this time we’ve decided the enhancement to our lives by being together, far outweighs the obstacles.

I would say honesty and communication about our feelings would be our secret to success to this point. Insecurity, jealousy and a big ego, these may be your biggest obstacles.

Enjoy life as much as you can, many have found it can be taken away in the blink of an eye!

SM

SM ... Your thoughts appear wise and pragmatic ... Thank you

And, seems that your points about honesty, communication, insecurity, jealousy and a big ego are on target ... for any relationship .... which may suggest that a client-provider relationship can be largely similar to a "more traditional" relationship ....

But, seems that the "business" inserts several issues for both parties .... I gotta believe that the business imposes stress on the ladies emotional and logical system .... for example, a predisposition to distrust men or disbelief that a relationship can not develop from a business introduction ... or a wide variety of symptoms related to not able or deserving of a traditional relationship ..... and on the other side of the coin, the man may suffer from similar feelings ... Are the signals from the lady, which in a traditional setting may be simple to interpret, real or a continuation of the GFE experience ..... seems to be the potential for some serious mental gymnastics

Which, of course, is the genesis of my question .... trying to learn from those with experience to avoid the potholes

Thank again

"Is this a possibility or a pipe dream?"

This is a favorite topic on this board so that in itself is a prelude to a positive answer.
There was a country and western song that I believe sums it up best, "looking for love in all the wrong places"...
That being said...what's great about a good GFE session is that all of life's emotional baggage and everyday stress is left at the hotel door by both you and the provider. I'm sure romance does indeed blossom under the sheets but after the loving(sing it Englebert..lol)...reality will greet both lovers at the door.
I'm sure there is a double dose if they go out the door together.
...but hell... Love has unlimited beginnings and of course, countless endings. So to answer your question,love can and will happen.Cheers!

but I also do think it is harder.  I have heard and do have friends in this biz that do have successful relationships and marriages.  One I know of has been successful for eleven years now.  There are also those that have many very short term relationships and that is more oft than not.

But as with every walk of life, it isn't so cut and dry and do think it is harder to find such a relationship within the hobby.  For the gents it is harder, for there are a lot of ladies out there that will prey on your vulnerabilities, take you for what is in the bank account and leave you emotionally crushed.  The ladies have the same problem, for there are many gents that try and take advantage of a ladies good nature, professes his undying love for nothing more than freebies and/or perks.  Both parties have the problem of being able to discern if this is the real thing or if it is just the fantasy playing havoc with their minds.  Good intentioned in that scenario, but does get individuals in trouble.

Communication is key to any relationship, but given this forum it is a must and do feel that things should be taken at a snails pace so that each individual can discern as to whether or not it is the real thing or not.  Patience and understanding before hand, helps in the long run.

And that is my 2 cents....

Lauren

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Woohoo! Love the see-thru red outfit pictures! You look great!

Thanks so much for your kind words.  It always lifts ones spirit to hear positive feedback.

I just need to get into the habit of posting my link.  I have been brainwashed into thinking it is taboo and considered advertisement.  

Lauren

Hey Halfree…

Just to clarify, I believe your question pondered on the ability to overcome obstacles and/or secrets to a successful, truly meaningful and traditional relationship with a provider.
A client-provider relationship, as you mentioned above, is a different type of relationship, with a different set of boundaries and expectations on both parties involved. Similar yes. But from reading the posts on this subject on this board, if love is involved, it may, more often than not, be a one-way street.

As far as the stress that the “business” inserts and the serious mental gymnastics, of course this adds elements that may not normally come into play in a “traditional” relationship. What relationship doesn’t bring with it some type of baggage these days? Overcoming these obstacles and growing through them, can make the connection, and friendship that develops, that much more valuable…

Anyone traveling down this road should expect a few sudden turns, lack of directions, unpaved sections of road and yes; you’re going to find a few potholes! But Damn! Finding someone you feel so complete with, and that returns those feelings back, can be one of life’s highest rewards…

SM

I think genuine emotions - reciprocated between two people is the key here. There are a legion of stories of unrequited love, infatuation and ladies (and clients) taking advantage of a given situation. There are also positive outcomes that owe less to the job/occasion of meeting - than to the realization of true affection and compatibility regardless of individual circumstances.

I can appreciate it may be difficult to cope with the job - and with the more explicit reviews, but - with all due respect to the clients/reviewers these are rarely seeing beyond the performance or if they do , are generally quick to recognize the ladies personal qualities that so attracted me in the first place.

I don't think anyone can second guess the outcome of a relationship - any relationship, but given all that I'd rather be with someone I genuinely cared for, irrespective of our meeting than to walk away.

Get serious. Dating a call-girl as something material? Look this is her income, it pays the bills. Why would she spend time without the time holder (cash)?

If you were a banker would initiate loans for free?

It "can" work, I've seen it work.  Most relationships don't last forever, these will be like most.  

There are additional complications obviously.  The day will come when you look down at your watch and realize "right then" that she's "watchin the clock".  Hard for some, no biggie for others.  

It's dangerous for the provider however, because the guy knows both of her lives.  That knowledge packs a lot of risk.

Many providers go for this option because they would like more then just the money.  By hooking up with a hobbyist, they have nothing to hide.

The "fact" is, it happens all the time.