Being that I'm on a roll right now, I'll ask one more question. There are a few ladies’ who engage in what I would consider risky behavior. I know there is risk in all that we do and it can be a relative thing. Some would say what is the sense of life without risk? With that being said, I think if I were to give a list of certain activities, I'm sure I would get most to agree that those activities carry a high risk of STD. My question is, if you know that a lady is engaging in risky things, why would you still see her? Call me a prude but almost any lady classified as a PSE (Porn Star Experience), would go to the head of the class. I know for a fact there is a lady, with several pages of reviews, who has a well known drug dependency problem, who I would classify as a PSE, yet guys continue to see and write about her. Is an orgasm worth a life-altering event? I guess I'm too square these days but I do wonder what goes through some of you guy's minds. I read one review where this guy said the lady gave him Asian, and then they engaged in DFK ?!?!?! Can anyone say Hepatitis B LOL!

I wouldn't see ANYONE who I knew had a drug problem....but I am not as deeply in the hobby and its subculture as others, so I am not as familar with the rumor mill, based on truth or no.

Your point is very valid however...and yet more reason why unprotected sex with a ASP is nuts...

Would you be suggesting that if she gave him asian then they DFK that she could have infected him with hep B...that she got from him?

a smile and a great memory. I do not and will not see anyone who I even suspect of engaging in risky behavior. Unfortunately it is difficult to get info on some ladies who do. Some guys will try to pressure them into doing everything without protection. I find it risky enough trying to find a time, place, and lady to meet. Also, from what I have been told, LE will quickly go after a lady who is using drugs.

Since I am extremely bored this weekend, I decided to take a peek in my medical texts. Did you know that Hepatitis B can live on inanimate objects for up to 1 week!!!??? It is a virulent little sucker. I would worry much more about contracting this virus, than HIV. HIV does not live long outside of the body; it is a weak virus. That is why it took so long for them to determine what it was, it's make-up, and it's transmission route when it first came around in the 80's. They couldn't keep it alive long enough. Another reason was it's association with the gay community, and other so called dispsable Americans. Why rush? So anyway, off my soapbox I will jump. I am really getting addicted to this board; it is much better than the local board in MN. Oh, there is a vaccine for Hep B. It works quite well, and is affordable. All newborns get this vaccination series now by law.

and if you do, do you use a dental dam?  If not (and from the reviews I have seen on TER most don't), then you are having a form of unprotected sex.

Reo you DATY....

Actually it feels good with the plastic wrap and it can be slid back and forth to provide a really nice sensation...just make sure that you ripped off enough of it. I tried providing guys with dental damns but no one wanted to use them. Instead I suggest the glyoxide and or listerine before and after. I have also experienced those listerine strips witch are suppose to act as a disenfectant as well and all I can say is wow really cool. I dont know if the experience was as good for him as they are very powerful tasting but oooooh the minty freshness. I only allow DATY because I do not do BBBJ's. It does seem unfair I suppose but I FIRMLY belive that no hobbyist should DATY a provider who BBBJ's espeically if she swallows and/or provides anal...I love DATY  and as the risk for the receiver is minimal if you inspect their mouth area and use some gly...but frankly I do not expect it from a client and I think he is wise to just not do it...( the glyoxide actually shows where there are lesions and or cuts by foaming white when you use it).I frequently get grossed out by the "glowing" reviews of some of these providers as the gent describes how great her ass tasted when he buried his face in it...yea and she just got "pounded" by two other guys before you stuck your tongue up her more than likely bleeding poop shoot.  Oh and I just recently read an article in a medical journal...not sure which one as it was at my doctors office, that said that they had determined that HIV jumped species  by humans consuming under cooked bush meat...If people can get it from some rare monkey meat I bet a raw asshole is a sure bet...YUCK!

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I do not have to thank God that I do not do drugs, Why?
Because I do not, have not and will not do drugs for anyone at any fee.

What about if you ended up with a client who do drugs..
"Now thats scary " because all I here on this board is stories about provider doing drugs. What about the client?...I ran in to a client who did drugs (crack) and it was scary as shit...And yes I decline and that day I drove home crying because " How would I have known and what if I had follow-through with the meeting...Not the drugs..At this point..I began to thank God!

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Re: Hepp B.

I have yet to have any hobbyist ask me my STD status after 2 years in the hobby.  Amazing huh?

If you go to a Dr.,and say you're active, you'd have the vaccine.  If a lady hasn't a clue what Hepp B is, she's probably one to steer clear of.  Ignorance or just don't give a rip?

I feel for your situation. In your case is is the case most of the times with the lady, you have no idea what the client's background is like. That in of itself is a scary situation, that is why guys should try to make sure there are no barriers when asked for screening info. If you don't feel comfortable giving it, don't, but also don't bash the lady for asking. Again, she is the one flying blind on you while like it or not, because of reviews, you probably already know every intimate detail about the woman. No a level playing field.

Anyway, I think your post is sort of off point from my orginal question. I'm more or less concerned why a guy, lets say, if he knew a lady was a crack head, would still want to see her? Such is the case with a few in my area. Guys know a few lady's have problems. Hell, they even put in their reviews that the lady goes into the bathroom to get blazed or arrives half stoned, AND YET still go through with the session because she will allow ANYTHING. Call me a prude but damn I think that is not only a risk to yourself but a risk to any other lady (including their wives!) who they will be with in the future. And to compound the situation, many of these lady's have page upon page of reviews. Is it me? Too much little head thinking.

The key word "knew"... I don't think any one with common sense would see a provider with a drug problem. But you don't know and what you don't can hurt you. What about all the clients you no nothing about that are seeing your favorite provider.  Think about it the next time you dive into the "Danty" head first or that uncovered BJ you enjoy so much.

Sending Smiles,Kisse and hugs wolfpack.

Your response...while legitimate...is out of context with the question asked...as the original poster clarified further below...

“I'm more or less concerned why a guy, lets say, if he knew a lady was a crack head, would still want to see her? Such is the case with a few in my area. Guys know a few lady's have problems. Hell, they even put in their reviews that the lady goes into the bathroom to get blazed or arrives half stoned, AND YET still go through with the session because she will allow ANYTHING. Call me a prude but damn I think that is not only a risk to yourself but a risk to any other lady (including their wives!) who they will be with in the future.”

My post was in reply to my presumption that the above was the true context of the question (a presumption that turned out to be right).

I further added that I was terribly versed in the subculture of the hobby, indicating (I thought) that it was indeed possible that I might have spent intimate time with a drug user. I guess that wasn’t so obvious.

My answer stands…I would never spend intimate time with an ASP who I knew did drugs (outside of marijuana I guess I should clarify…hell, I MISS smoking weed myself, but simply can’t take the risks nowadays).

I regards to your reply, I think the original poster has now clarified that apparently some guys (who still might be lacking common sense I concede) DO see providers with known drug problems. Again, that was the context of his question. Insofar as my BBJ and DATY predilections, well, again, you have a point. But, if I really cared, I wouldn’t be seeing escorts at all, now would I?