Hi......it's me again.......just something else that I don't understand.  I copied the following off a  website from a very well reviewed provider:
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Turn-Ons
5-Star Hotels, Candle Lit Dinners, Well Dressed Tall Classy Men, Casinos and Winning

Turn-Offs
Egotistical Men, Politics, Rudeness, Someone who thinks they know it all, and really know nothing!
Ê Ê
My Rates
1 hr $300
1.5 hrsÊ $450
2 hrs $550
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Would'nt you think that she would get a much better response from her ad if she wrote the following:

Turn-Ons
Watching you intently as your eyes roll back into your forehead and listening to you scream in pleasure as I take you to places that you may have never even dreamed about.

Turn-Offs
Not being able to do the above........
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It's a continuation of the same argument that I stated in the thread below.  l've even seen stated turn-ons as gifts, such as cars, jewlery, perfume, shoes, etc, etc.  I don't get it ladies.  Why do so many of you do this?  Why not just state what it is that you can offer and let the gent ask you about the other things that you enjoy?



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I paraphrase:

Turn-ons: making money off guys like you.
Turn offs: not making money off guys like you; any hassels.

So Cal out !

And how do you think that I, at 5'7", would react to know ing she's turned on by tall men?

I think the girls who post like that are reaching out to the sugar daddies and just plain wealthy men who wnat nothing more than to blow there money on a pretty girl who wants nothing more than to take it.  I love having money its cool and great but I get turned on by turning someone on.  Thats my reason for getting in this business, I love men, I love turning them on, I love being complimented for it.....the money was that last push I needed.

Real tall if you're Danny Devito. Real short if you're Shaq.... (eom)

x

I'm a pretty wealthy man, but I would want this pretty girl to turn my world upside down.......not tell me that she likes 5-start restaurants.  I would prefer that she stated that her rates were three times as much, and not advertise herself like she did.

She's has received excellent reviews, so I am sure she is very good at what she does.  She just doesn't have a clue about advertising.....  

Just not too smart, IMHO.

And I've seen many well reviewed ladies make these same mistakes.  It amazes me that someone hasn't yet come around and suggested that they not do this.

there are some clients that are just attracted to that type of personality, I dont know why but they are.  Like i prefer to advertise myself and how I am and what I have to offer, if you want to know the material things that I like you can read my wishlist.  The funny thing is, even when posting that I felt like I was acting like a goldigger, but compared to some of the other ones that I have see I'm not wishing for much.  I love material things just as much as the next girl but to say thats a turn on would be way off base.  I think a client buying me a car would creep me out more than it would turn me on....I dunno all I do know is that everyone has their own thing and get their kicks out of the strangest things.

She's not THAT specific.  She says she likes:

5-Star Hotels, Candle Lit Dinners, Well Dressed Tall Classy Men, Casinos and Winning.  

What woman wouldn't like these things.  Not too specific.

Turn-Offs
Egotistical Men, Politics, Rudeness, Someone who thinks they know it all, and really know nothing!

Again, what woman wouldn't be turned off by these traits.

She's doing nothing but stating the obvious, and I see a lot of providers do this.  

If they are in it to find a sugar daddy, don't they realize that they have a better chance of finding one by not coming out and saying, "Hey guys.  I like the better things in life."  Who doesn't, for Christs sake?  

Wealthy men can find women all day long that want what they have.  But don't you think that any man, wealthy or not, would respond more to an ad that stated that she would rock his world like his world has never been rocked before.  And if she is able to follow up on that promise, don't you think that she would stand a better chance of finding what she is looking for, rather than saying, "Hey, pay my fee and take me out to dinner. And if you're rich enough, maybe something can happen here.  

Uhhhh.....what's wrong with THIS picture......

But maybe this is just me.  Maybe there are guys out there that like this kind of approach.  I see a lot of ladies doing this, so maybe it works.........boggles MY mind......

 

Ê Ê

Maybe I should get you to re write my web site. I'm not that good at writeing. I could use a good web site writer.

Kinda has a nice ring to it, huh????

I guess it's because that's what I like.  I like to look into my lovers eyes as she's having an orgasm.  It's intensely fun to watch them flutter and kind of glaze over as she's preparing for take off.  

We were talking about intimacy in another thread.  One of the most intimate moments that I ever had with a lady was when I was just beginning to orgasm, my eyes would shut like most of us do.  I heard her say, "Look at me", but I couldn't.  The feelings were just too intense and my eyes just involuntarily, shut.  She bent down real close and gently opened my eyes with her fingers and held them open, cocked her head and smiled and said, "Look at me", as I was going through one of the most intense orgasms of my life.  It was as if she was looking into my very soul at a moment in time that I was most vulnerable.  THAT for me is what intimacy is all about..........well at least one of the things that it's all about.  

Damn......got a little carried away with that one.....

Didn't mean for that to happen......

for her client is 5'9" and taller.  (I don't remember what kind of weight requirement she had.)  She claimed because of her height (5' 9 1/2"), she felt that she couldn't give her best to any client that are shorter than 5' 9" because of the difficulty arised for incompatible body type.

Interesting to note that her TER reviews are no longer available (She was a feature chat guest once and has very high rating.).  The straight 5'9" height requirement has been dropped from her site: http://www.samanthajones.net/enter.htm , though height and weight are still required for booking an appointment.

Just like hobbyists get to pick the ladies they want to meet, some ladies want to narrow their clientele to fit their preference.  I have no problem with that.

I am just glad that there are many other beautiful GFE type ladies available for guys like me.

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Maybe providers saying this stuff get 'turned on' by your money and don't care if your eyes are rolling ecstacy or not.

As for which woman wouldn't be turned off by '...politics...' well, I wouldn't (would by the rest, though). Personally, I'd much rather have an intelligent, fun discussion over dinner than spend my time checking out how much the client is spending on champagne or trying to work out how much his watch cost! lol

Carrie x

Maybe she is turned on more by money, but she doens't have to advertise that.  

Ok, you got me on the politics issue...I know women who enjoy talking about politics, so you're right on that one....

And I also, enjoy intelligent, fun discussions over dinner, Carrie.  I just don't want to feel that if I employ a provider for the evening, that she will be disappointed if we eat at any restaurant that isn't a five star restaurant, even though we would end up there anyway.  It just isn't good form........

to rule your quest for the ideal GFE/PSE experience. I did that myself at the beginning until I realized that the women that are putting those comments on their site are just making it clear in no uncertain terms what they do and don't like.  They are also being right up front in telling us what they are all about.

Rightly or wrongly they're running their own business in their own way. You have some good points; however, they are just that, good points. Bottom line is providers aren't in any way shape or form responsible for adhering to what you consider to be acceptable, effective or smart marketing and advertising verbiage. The ladies bear the ultimate responsibility for their business failures or successes, and the company they keep.

Based on the lovely ladies I have met and become friendly with, I would say they all have very good reasons for stating up front what they like and dislike. If we want to play we play it their way, if not we pass and move on. There are plenty of ladies out there to choose from.

The ladies and their advertising practices are what they are, it skills nothing to debate it.

HPG

It would seem to me that anyone in business, and this IS definitely a business, would create a site that appeals to as many potential clients as possible.  If you break out the components of the information she provides:

"Turn-Ons
5-Star Hotels, Candle Lit Dinners, Well Dressed Tall Classy Men, Casinos and Winning"

Most guys, and I suppose maybe more than average, guys in this hobby, might aspire to being a person into better things like this.  And for the opportunity to wine and dine a beautiful woman.
Certainly better than a $30 short stay motel where the sheets may or may not have been changed between short stays!

"Turn-Offs
Egotistical Men, Politics, Rudeness, Someone who thinks they know it all, and really know nothing!"

These are probably turn-offs to 95% of the population, so she is establishing herself as a good, or regular person.

"My Rates
1 hr $300
1.5 hrs $450
2 hrs $550"

Basically the norm for services in this industry.

Considering the fantasy nature of the business and the product, the advertising you quote may simply fall into that fantasy category, and many guys who would aspire to being able to "provide" on that level may be turned on by it.  Interestingly, if her rates were, say, double of what they are, I would probably tend to agree more with your thesis.

BTW, your suggestion of a "turn-on" is most excellent.  But, interestingly, it would probably be a turn-off for me because it just sounds like a line, and a crock of sh*t.  

Just my 2 cents.

Reude, you're observant but it seems like perhaps you're allowing your pet peeves

"The ladies and their advertising practices are what they are, it skills nothing to debate it."
HPG

Very true, HPG.  I have just been in a mood to debate the past few days, and being that I saw some things here that kind of ruffled my feathers, I thought I'd just dive in and express some opinions.  It looks like it may if stirred up the pot a bit........not a bad thing.

"Most guys, and I suppose maybe more than average, guys in this hobby, might aspire to being a person into better things like this. ÊAnd for the opportunity to wine and dine a beautiful woman.
Certainly better than a $30 short stay motel where the sheets may or may not have been changed between short stays!"
--fortitude

Ok, for one thing, there is a HUGE gray area between staying in a 5-star hotel and bedding down in a  $30.00 motel.  The problem that I have is that she is implying that if you want to take her to a 4 star hotel she doesn't want to have anything to do with you.  Is business really THAT good that one can afford to work within that narrow of a market.  I may be wayyyy off base here, but I don't think that she would turn down a client who was a respectable gentleman, treated her well and accepted her rates with the only caveat that they were not going to dine by candle-light and stay in a 5-star hotel.    And a well dressed tall classy man conjures up the likes of Sean Connery.  There may be many men that may be intimidated by her requests.  Is that what  she really wants. Maybe, but I don't think so.  

"Interestingly, if her rates were, say, double of what they are, I would probably tend to agree more with your thesis."
--fortitude

Interesting.  Why would you agree if her rates were double?

"But, interestingly, it would probably be a turn-off for me because it just sounds like a line, and a crock of sh*t. "
--fortitudeÊ

I totally understand.  Not all advertising is going to appeal to everyone.  Some may find them very inticing, while others would view them as a high-pressure sales pitch.  

Personally, I would want whomever is advertising to me, to zero in on my desires, not to advertise what it is that THEY want.

She wants to be taken to 5 star hotels
She wants to be wined and dined
She wants a man to be well dressed and classy
She wants to go to casinos
She wants 300.00 an hour

The thrust of her adverstising is what SHE wants, not what she is providing.  Isn't there something inherently wrong here?  I think so, but all of what I have said is just my opinion, for what it's worth.  Some may agree, some may disagree.  Such is the nature of advertising.  
















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That was soooo Hot  and Romantic! You sure have a way with words.

It sounds like you have some issues with providers, overall. Why don't you just stop seeing then alltogether, and not sound like you are pm'sing everytime you post? You sound worse than a woman.

donutlover,

I do NOT have some issues with providers.  I DO have issues with SOME providers.  Big difference here.

And your negative comment regarding women would suggest that it is you that may have issues.

Just how bad does a woman sound, donutlover?



-- Modified on 5/14/2003 10:38:38 PM

Thanks angelann.  It's things like that, that makes sex really, really fun.

And being that we're kinda of on the same wavelength here, what city do you call your home base????

I do NOT have some issues with providers.  I DO have issues with SOME providers.

Sound the same to me.


Also, I am a woman. So, I can say you do sound worse than me, when I am pms'sing..

-- Modified on 5/14/2003 10:54:23 PM

"I do NOT have some issues with providers. ÊI DO have issues with SOME providers.

Sound the same to me."
--donutlover.

It's NOT the same, donutlover. Reread it again.....

You implyed that I had some issues with all providers.  I am saying that, that statement is false.  There are many providers that I have NO issues with.  I DO have issues with some providers, however.  Now, does that make sense????

you said it. I didn't it.

I am glad that they stated in no uncertain terms their desires in their sites.  It saved me time and probably bad experiences.

I see your point, but again, she's playing up to what most guys aspire to, not really what she likes, which is probably nothing like what she advertises.  In all liklihood she likes cheeseburgers and has never tasted chateaubriand or rack of lamb.  But by telling us what she "likes", she's playing to what we would like ultimately.  This is sharing the fantasy component of the date.

She won't turn down anyone who can pay the fare.  And she probably will spend time at 3 and 4 star hotels.  Or maybe even that sleazy no-tell motel!  The "like" she didn't mention is MONEY!

And what guy out there wouldn't want to be Sean Connery?

The thrust of her advertising is what will attract guys to want to pay the 300/hour.  It's advertising and has absolutely nothing to do with who or what she really is.  It's all about attracting the most potential clients.  If you're unique and her stuff doesn't appeal to you, then move on to the next web site.

I'm not trying to be glib here, nor am I criticizing your post.  In fact it's one I find very interesting and intelligent.  But I try to rise above the hype and advertising on the net and follow a very different plan when searching for a date.  This plan has nothing at all to do with their web sites.  

My marketing ideas come from 10 years of owning a business and being involved in creating ad copy for print media and the web.

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This is what I gave her:

As a man of some experience, I’ve had the pleasure of the company of quite a few women.  But, my evening with [name deleted] will stand out in my memory for years to come.  Oh, of course, [name deleted] is beautiful.  She’ s positively statuesque; with delightful breasts; long, willowy legs; a disarmingly curvaceous figure; and an angelic face that belies her mischievous nature.  But beyond her beauty is what separates [name deleted] from all the others:  She was sweet.  She was genuinely friendly.  She made me feel as if I was the only man in the world.  We talked.  We laughed.  We played.  At one moment, [name deleted] was conversing intelligently on a sweeping range of subjects, and at the next moment, she was silly and funny to the point where I couldn’t help but be caught up in the joy.  The next time I want to spend time in the company of a gorgeous, engaging, provocative woman, who will reaffirm my manhood with her every movement – indeed, with her every breath – I will call [name deleted].

Yes I said it.  I've been saying it through this whole thread.

I have some issues in how SOME providers advertise.
I also have some issues on the expectations of SOME providers.

So yes, that is the topic of this thread.

So what are saying when you say "Hmmmmm, you said it. I didn't."?

F

You are getting highly agitated over there. Just slow down and remain calm. Life is toooo short to be jumpy over issues, that you can easily control yourself: by NOT reading too much on the TER board and or reading too much into a provider's website, to see what it says. If you are agitated by how one would represent herself by her writings that is in her website, then maybe you have toooo much time on your hands (?). With all that time that you are busy critizing a provider for this or that, you could be underneath the sheets, and knockin some boots.

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I respect your marketing experiences.  I have never owned my own business but I was the Sales and Marketing Director for a Retail Chain in Southern California that had 40 stores and a 4 million dollar a year advertising budget for 17 years and have been involved in retail sales and marketing management for over 35 years. So it sounds like we both have at least some experience in this field.

So now that we both have our credentials laid out on the table, I'd like to make a few points about what you have just said.  

My issues is with her advertising, not with who she is.  I have never seen a high-end establishment state in their advertising:
______________________________________

These are our rates

You must be this
          or
You must be that
           and
You must do this
           or
you must do that

To be able to shop and or visit our establishment.
________________________________________

This is, in effect, what she is doing.

As a matter of fact, in the print advertising of most high-end retail establishments, you will see a full page ad with nothing more than one item with a price.  Some, very often don't even show a price, reflecting that the item is very expensive, and in this way, are attracting those customers that can appreciate and afford the "finer things in life".  But they ARE advertising what it is that they are offering.

She is not offering to wine and dine us.  We, as clients, choose to take her out to 5-star hotels and dine by candle light if we so desire.  She is offering her time and implying that if you don't do this with me, I don't want to have anything to do with you.  That's OK, if THAT is exclusively what she truly wants.  But, as you have suggested, I don't believe that, that is the case.  

Anyway, we may never agree on this issue, and that is ok.  I have been is a gazillion marketing and advertising meetings and I have never experienced a situation where everyone agreed on a marketing or advertising strategy.   I started this thread and got very involved in a previous thread because I wanted some diversion and engage some folks in discussion on this site.  

I very much appreciate and respect your comments as well as from most of the others here.  I very rarely do this, and I must say, that I have  truly enjoyed these debates.  Thank you.  

with how a lady chooses to advertise. If someone is not interested in her "hype", that means to me that he should move on and not see her. To me that would be the most logical choice.

I'm Based In  Marlbrough Ma. but I service most parts of Ma.I just liked what you said in your posts. It was kind of romantic and sexy.  I don't know if it was a turn on for men to hear that,  but  as a woman it was a big turn on for me.One of the things I like most about giving a bbbj is to get down between his legs and look up at his face while going down on him. I get really  turned on by looking at the expression on a guys face as I'm pleasing him. Plus I get turned on just by the taste of him in my mouth while I'm giving a bbbj.

well obviously this lady is not into retail. So I fail to see your point. She just states what she likes and dislikes. If she only wants to see tall men that can take her to fine restaurants and 5 star hotels, that's her right.

Maybe she is not in it for the money, just to meet tall men and  go to 5 star hotels.

..........., I guess you're right......for most people.

I have been involved in retail sales, marketing, management and advertising all of my life.  So when I see advertising, that to me, doesn't make any sense, or when I experience sub-par salesmen who don't provide the service that I know is possible, I have a tendency to get engaged in dialogue.  Why?  Because these aspects of business is a passion for me.  I've been doing it for a long time.

I think that this would be true for anyone that is passionate about what they do in life.

As an example, I have some friends who are actors.  I hate going out to the movies with them especially if they feel that the movie on any level was below standard, for they will pick it apart piece by piece.  Why?  Because they have a passion for their work, and they know what it is that they are criticizing, and they, no different than myself, cannot understand why someone would put out a piece of work that was below what they know they are capable of producing.

But like I've said previously, this is not a waste of time for me, for I have truly enjoyed these discussions.

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She lost you as a customer..........Is this truly what she wanted to happen?  I don't think so!!

so that makes them the product.  I think what hes saying is when you market a product you state how the product will benefit the consumer not the other way around.


Its funny how some say this is a business and treat it as such, but when someone states that a provider should review her business practices better then there is a problem.


One thing I can say is when a provider has stipulations as those in the 1st thread its her way of saying "no shirt, no shoes, no service"and thats fine and dandy because that narrows down the clients to the type that she is willing to accept. HOWEVER, if the provider has not taken the time to state the benefits that the product will give the consumer then what is there to make that consumer put on his shirt and shoes?

is that if whatever she states does not appeal to you, then move on, gracefully. Yes, we all like dialogue, but I would think that dialogue towards world peace, or homeless people, etc., is more of an issue, than how a provider's marketing scheme is affecting your life.

I see your point here. On my web site I don't post my rates. I come off like I'm looking for very rich men,and a bit of a snob bitch which I'm really not [if it happens thats nice but we all know in real life that  that is not true .Oh well some day my prince will Cum...LOL!]. but in reality  most men are not rich around here ,just nice,and thats what I'm really looking for..NICE SAFE GUYS,Not JERKS.So I try and keep the jerks away by the way I advertise. I do try to go for 2 plus hour sessions,more fun for me and the guy  and I don't feel rushed,and I can go a bit over time[in my case more often a lot over time...LOL!]. I do all my rate posting on my ERO's  Boston ad. Thats because I can change and adjust my rates with out paying extra for the change,plus  I give discounts a lot of the time and run over time a lot if I'm having fun. On my own web site I have to pay my web mistress everytime I want to make a change. The bottom line is maybe not so much the words and beleve me I'm NOT the greatest when it comes to expressing my self in adveritseing [or on posting for that matter LOL! ] but the rate per hour for the service provided.Sexy words in advertising is great too if you can express your self that way as our friend who started this post surely can [too bad I can't] You can tell by the rates she charges and not so much by the words what market she is after more or less. I look on Eros and see these very beautiful  traveling girls coming into Boston. And you would think by the adveritsing that they would charge $600 per hour. Then you look at the rates and It's only  like $300 or $350 per hour. What does that tell you... It's only advertiseing.  What I can't stand is advertising that says a rate for full service GFE and then I hear from guys that when she gets there she wants a "Tip" up front for "Extra" service and a "Second" helping,and it was NOT a GFE. It should be full service and all the "helpings" you can handle with in the time you payed for with no extra for extra. The only time I ever charge extra is when I have to go to Boston and pay for the Damn parking to see a client. And then it's only for my parking fee and I try to make it up by spend some extra time with the guy.Gee...he can't help it if he's in Boston. Boston parking sucks!  OK I put in my 2 cents on this subject...carry on guys.  Ps..I'll see a guy in a Motel 6. as long as the sheets are clean. I'm not that stuck up.LOL!

   Ok heres an  escort ad that may appeal to all guys...LOL!

Total GFE provider. Willing to go anywhere and do just anything for a buck for as long as you want. Fat,thin,old or young smelly men with bad breath,dirty hair  and stinky arm pits ok.Rude  and mean  drunk stoned out guys ok. Any dive motel or even your car  or back ally will do. Gifts? Cheap Port wine will do. Cum one Cum All Gang Bangs welcome! Bring your friends, bring your dog!...No Extra!   Hours of operation...24/7. All call's answered!  I can be to you in less then 15 min notice!

I'd probably get 10000 emails a day if I did that!  LOL!

And are nice and clean. What does height  and weight have to do with it?

The one thing I'd never do is equate the marketing of an ASP to any retail endeavor.  

"As a matter of fact, in the print advertising of most high-end retail establishments, you will see a full page ad with nothing more than one item with a price.  Some, very often don't even show a price, reflecting that the item is very expensive, and in this way, are attracting those customers that can appreciate and afford the "finer things in life".  But they ARE advertising what it is that they are offering.

She is not offering to wine and dine us.  We, as clients, choose to take her out to 5-star hotels and dine by candle light if we so desire.  She is offering her time and implying that if you don't do this with me, I don't want to have anything to do with you.  That's OK, if THAT is exclusively what she truly wants.  But, as you have suggested, I don't believe that, that is the case."
                                                       lwien

She's marketing the fantasy!!!!

The REALITY of becoming the owner of, say a pair of Nike running shoes for $49.95, from a marketing standpoint, cannot be compared to the FANTASY of renting a provider for 1 or more hours.  The approach has to be different simply by nature of the difference in product.  Her approach is to list those OTHER fantasy things that the guys in the hobby might, in her opinion, aspire to in order for them to be aroused by the ad.  Your approach (your suggestion in your original thread) is another approach, which I guess is equally valid. BTW, as you indicated about more expensive products, there are plenty of providers that don't list their rates but require e-mail or phone contact first.  Just another approach that I believe helps them to engage a potential client in discussion with the hope that their conversational skills, the sexy hoarseness in their voice, or whatever, will strike a chord in the guy and will make him more interested in seeing her.

I could go on and on about this, and as a retired person I have the time to do so.  But rather than beat a dead horse, suffice it to say I enjoyed this thread as an intellectual excercise in the sea of recreational debauchery that TER can become at times.  Let's agree to disagree, and be friends.

BTW, the things that turn me off most on a provider web site are poor grammar, misspelling and illogical organization.  And when I'm looking for a provider, I first research TER, make a list of those profiles of interest, THEN visit the web sites.

Thanks for your replies to my ramblings.

F.

I remember going to work for a company that targeted the 16 to 19 year old.  I tried to write copy and failed miserably.  Hired a young copy writer and another young graphic artist, and our business went through the roof.  

It makes good sense to hire someone with experience in advertising who also happens to be within your target demographic.

That's the funniest (and maybe the scariest) thing I've read this week.  ROFLMAO

In reality a bottle of wine and some French bread and cheese and hot sex is enought for me. All the other stuff on a site is just hard sell.  Skip the hard sell,look at the photos,read the reviews and fill out the verification form or call. Most provider are just reg. nice girls.

It would scare me to tell you the truth. I say all the stuff I like to have on my web site,but in reality  if I got half the stuff I say I want as gifts it would scare me.

Now THAT'S funny..... Bring your friends, bring your dog...lol

x

...authored by The Spectator.  He implied that if he read this ad, he would take a pass on visiting her, and I doubt if that's what she would have wanted to happen.  So, another lost customer.  

Now of course the argument can be made that for every customer that she turned off, she turned on ten.  We'll never know the answer to THAT question.

Like we have both said, I don't think that there is a definitive wrong or right here.  But I do have my opinions of what I think is wrong or right, as do you.  

And like AngelStar has said, I think it's a good thing to question various business practices.  It brings up questions and stirs the imagination to make things better.  NOSC is a very accomplished provider who has an excellent web site and an exteme command of her communication, and she is questioning her own advertising.  Weather she changes anything or not is not important here.  The fact that she is questioning and analysing her business practices is something all of us should do more often.

Peace out...
Larry

I could have used the help.

x

But  I do have quick wit  and I'm very funny.

Yup.....a bottle of wine, some cheese, some warm French bead, and hot sex on an overfilled feather bed in front of a crackling fire on a chilly night overlooking the pacific ocean.....and after, just cuddling with nothing but the soft sounds of breathing, the sounds of crackling wood, the sounds of rolling waves and the soft touches of fingertips.............feeling warm .........and feeling............safe.

I'm there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I can deal with that just fine. Bring it on Babe!

It's just a diversion, donutlover.  

The same argument could be made as to why we spend money on providers when that same money could go to a much better cause such as world peace or homeless people.

Don't get me started on that one........

Hi lwien,

If she don't use it, can I have your premission to?

Turn-Ons
Watching you intently as your eyes roll back into your forehead and listening to you scream in pleasure as I take you to places that you may have never even dreamed about.

Turn-Offs
Not being able to do the above........
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Sure, but with one stipulation.

And that is, that IF it increases your business, you have to promise me that we spend some "off-the clock" time together the next time you visit Los Angeles, k?

more easy going.  To each their own.

Your strategy sure chased me away. FAST!

Everyone else got it.

..........................................(tsk)



I don't know, Angela, but there's something goin on here.....

Just wanted to say.................Sleep peacefully lady, you are turly a breath of fresh air........


Larry


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To say that it turns a girl on to turn guys on???

I mean really at its heart, I would hope that MOST of us ladies get really turned on by pleasing men. Or else there are going to be some majorly bitter people.  Icky. Regardless of the way anyone else feels, I DO get off from turning guys on, especially if they have screaming orgasms or those ones where they start to almost cry and shiver and shake. There is NOTHING like that in the world... it is so incredibly hot!

And Fortitude, you know me better than to say that's a crock of you know what when I say it!

*smooch*
Nicole, your friendly neighborhood HSE!

You're scaring me again.

Don't be angry with me Ann, I thought your screening process and the fact that you wanted to look at my credit cards was a little bit overboard, and served no purpose to actually verify who I was. That's what I'm talking about.

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of providers who are very particular.

Oh.I thought you meant my funny post I posted here yesterday. As for my verification. I only do the credit card thing with guys from out of town I don't know or trust enought that want an over night or for me to travel way out of State on a weekend vacation. I wouldn't need all that crap for you anyway.  Known clients that post a lot on these boards I'm more laxed with. Just home or work info and provider Ref is enought most of the time. I get a lot of real jerks calling and emailing everyday.You would not beleve the crap we providers have to put up with everyday. Some of the emails we get are unbeleveable...I could write a book!  Some of them are funny too! I just had my web site done and I don't really care for the writeing my self. I'm going to re write it my self soon. Thats what I get for letting a man write my web site for me...LOL!   I think a lot of guys skip all the writeing on a web site anyway  and just get to the photos, rates and reviews  anyway.  We don't need all this crap filler stuff with likes and dislikes and all that other crappy  do and don't stuff which is a lot of bull shit anyway. All we need to know is that I'm going to provide good quality service if your a nice guy and try to rock your world when I'm with you and give you the best GFE you ever had. Thats all guys want to know.

Well, I feel honored Ann, I guess you truly are an Angel.

Perhaps we should pick up where we left off in our private conversation.;^)

Also this guy who first posted here inspired me to re write my whole web site my self today. This new web site is now in my own words NOT my friend words.I'm not that great with all the spelling,grammar and  dots and commas but its me and how I feel.And thats whats most important. It should be up in a day or so.So please check it out.It reflects who I really am as a person and how I feel about all my clients that I see. Yes I still have to have that verification form like everyone else. But I made it a bit more user friendly. And you have options. Also please stay tooned for my big Birthday special coming in June.

Telling someone that you inspired them is one of the finest compliments that one can offer.

Again, thank you Angela, and let us know when your new site is up.  I'd love to see it...

Larry

Ps
Bye the way, I did respond to one of your posts over at the LA boards.  I don't want you to think I was stalking you.  I live in LA and frequent that forum as well as this one.

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Thank You very much.Your postings have helped and  inspired me to re write  my site and it should be changed in a couple of days.But I think you have me mixed up with another girl on this board.I'm not in LA and I don't post on the La boards. My name is Angel Ann    and I post as angelann. I'm not Angela.  See my old web site below. The new  one that will be in my own words NOT the crap you see on this one will be up soon.So check back and tell me what you think. And Thanks Again!

You're right.  I've been getting you and AngelStar mixed-up.........this is getting sooooo confusing....

Ok I just checked and my new site is now up and running.This is now all in my own words. Gee I hope I did ok. I'm not the greatest when it comes to advertiseing my self and expressing my self in words. I did the best I could.But its better then having my friend write it for me. BTW thats ok hon. Your a really nice guy and I enjoyed all your posts here on this subject.It's helped me a lot.All I ever want to do it please and make men happy. I like pleaseing men and making them happy.And if I can better express that in my words and not just only my actions that is a big help.

I just looked at your updated site (haven't been there for a while) and what you did is different from lwien's statement.

The statement, taken by itself, for my taste, is a bit arrogant and too obvious.  Now if I called you to book some time and told me that, it would be completely believable because you've already done this to me.  But for a total stranger..............

The first page of your site is wonderful (I really mean that).  It tells a story and, so to speak with intended pun, sucks you in.  The fact that it's written in third party is what sells it.  I also really liked the "hidden" surprise.  I hope the site it is successful for you beyond your wildest dreams, which are probably pretty wild.

Love ya'

F.

No if....Sweetie we will make it happen.....My Pleasure.