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Delaneygfe See my TER Reviews 433 reads
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1 / 37

Expectations of how others "should" act will kill you, especially in this business!!  Trust me when I let that shit go it set me free!

jaydalee See my TER Reviews 408 reads
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2 / 37

I don't think rates have anything to do with it.
I have provided references to ladies with higher and lower rates than me and never received a thank you.
I always say thank you when I send the reference request and again after I receive a response.
But as you see and I am sure every provider that has ever provided references there are always some who will not say thank you.It's rude but some people are just not courteous.

MidnightKitty 392 reads
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3 / 37

I do not have an assistant, therefore I answer all emails myself. I tour relatively often and I have a regular job. I try to be polite and send 'thank you's' but sometimes I just don't have time. In my personal opinion, references are part of our job. I don't expect a 'thank you' because I am just doing my job. I actually get annoyed when people send 'thank you' because it creates more emails that I need to look at

GQman42 188 Reviews 375 reads
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4 / 37

From a hobbyist perspective it only takes a second to reply "Thank You" to someone who took the time to reply to your request for a reference on a gentleman.   I understand we all get tons of emails, but I think it's common courtesy!

Puchi_08 7 Reviews 305 reads
posted
5 / 37

What do you ladies ask when contacting a reference? Just the obvious, LE? Creep?

VelvetVacation See my TER Reviews 351 reads
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6 / 37

A "Thank you" message sent back, for receiving your information, is More of the receiving provider's TIME.
The "Thank you" you are receiving from the "Higher End Ladies" is most likely their PAID ASSISTANT.
So, that person is getting PAID to send the "Thank you".

You feel you are doing the "right" thing by giving the reference.
That needs to be all the Pleasure you gain from the act.

The "Thank you" response, in receipt of the reference,
can be another Rule added to the Updated Ho-Instructional-Manual

VelvetVacation See my TER Reviews 334 reads
posted
7 / 37

I notice different questions asked from the reference seekers than the obvious-
Is he LE?
Did he rape you and beat you up?

I've noticed a guy can have 36 OK's on P411 and a provider
will still want me to describe my session of the guy to her,
 for my duty in the Reference-Sharing program.

RogerGoodellsanus 306 reads
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8 / 37

When you pm a guy about a gal asking for any "insight" and are replied to promptly and politely but don't say "thankyou" you may go into a folder entitled "do not reply" in my pm box. I'd say 75% of guys after initiating a request for info take the info and run with no "thanks." And then they wonder why the second go around there's crickets.

Not apples to apples relative to references and ladies safety but it ties in.

VelvetVacation See my TER Reviews 269 reads
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9 / 37

common courtesy"
is not as "common" as we all would like it to be.

One will have to learn how to cope in the world with the pittance of "common courtesy" that is available

VelvetVacation See my TER Reviews 321 reads
posted
10 / 37

Giving that reference
and Not receiving that "Thank you"  
is sort of like
going into the store, taking a candy bar, and not paying.

The thing is, when entering the "Reference Store"  
a girl is obligated (there is a camp that wants to make it a Ho Law)
 to let the others take her candy bars (references)

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 377 reads
posted
11 / 37

Even if the client has 80 reviews and 80 ok's  I am going to screen like always.  

GYBOpower ... and one of the reasons is that what you are okay as provider in a session, I may not.  
or something that bugs you on the date (even if he is safe and all) it may be something that doesn't bother me.  
I have good communication with well known ladies in my area, and it's important to know certain things to make us feel better about the date. Im sure if you are not into bitting you may want to know if in your date that guy was into it ... safe, but I wont take the date because of it.  

Just an example. An OK doesn't mean he's a perfect client or I would feel comfortable meeting him.  
 
Posted By: GYBOpower
I notice different questions asked from the reference seekers than the obvious-  
 Is he LE?  
 Did he rape you and beat you up?  
   
 I've noticed a guy can have 36 OK's on P411 and a provider  
 will still want me to describe my session of the guy to her,  
  for my duty in the Reference-Sharing program.

VelvetVacation See my TER Reviews 343 reads
posted
12 / 37

Yes,
different providers have
different thresholds of service that they are willing to provide.

That's where the Review System comes in.
Read the Reviews to find out about the guy

VelvetVacation See my TER Reviews 235 reads
posted
13 / 37

P411 has a wonderful "Client's Profile" section
which includes The Most IMPORTANT  things to him:

1.  BBBJ
2.  DFK
3.  DATY
4.  GREEK

Reviews on TER will tell you what is IMPORTANT for his fulfillment also.

If you cannot perform these Basic Activities- that he has checked off-
Don't take the date

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 269 reads
posted
14 / 37

only if we could trust what reviews said..... and take THEIR perspective LOL  
 

Posted By: GYBOpower
Yes,  
 different providers have  
 different thresholds of service that they are willing to provide.  
   
 That's where the Review System comes in.  
 Read the Reviews to find out about the guy.  
   
   
   
 

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 237 reads
posted
15 / 37

and many of them dont provide that information...  

I got it... I would never ask for a reference from you, but you can definitely contact me if you need one.  

Happy day,  
 
Posted By: GYBOpower
P411 has a wonderful "Client's Profile" section  
 which includes The Most IMPORTANT  things to him:  
   
 1.  BBBJ  
 2.  DFK  
 3.  DATY  
 4.  GREEK  
   
 Reviews on TER will tell you what is IMPORTANT for his fulfillment also.  
   
 If you cannot perform these Basic Activities- that he has checked off-  
 Don't take the date.  
   
   
   
 

lopaw 29 Reviews 207 reads
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16 / 37

...in fact a simple request about a girl from another hobbyist usually becomes a multi PM interaction that generates more and even a TER "friendship". Maybe it's just me :)

VelvetVacation See my TER Reviews 347 reads
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17 / 37

Imagine this.....

Some Providers don't need References.

They simply don't need to be walked through a session that a guy had with another girl.

They don't need to be taught how a man will act in a certain situation.

They are totally capable of handling what comes up

MidnightKitty 293 reads
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18 / 37

It might just take a second but when I have 40 other emails that require my attention, plus my regular job duties, plus actually going to appointments, plus any semblance of a personal life, sometimes things fall through the cracks. I have thought about getting an assistant but all my clients say they prefer the personal touch and would dislike it greatly if I got one. So what's a lady to do?

I'm not saying that providers shouldn't send 'thank yous', I'm just saying it's probably best to not take it personally when one isn't sent.

Lt.Kaffee 196 reads
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19 / 37

I'll do that too.  If I come across a provider that I'd like to see but have some issues with the reviews (not many of them, inconsistency between reviews, providing a half-ass recommendation, etc.), then I'll reach out to the reviewer with some questions.  If they respond (and they usually do), then I'll certain respond to that as well.  Ultimately, it could be several PMs going back and forth.  And, for the record, I always say "thank you"!  I agree with the earlier comment as well, that SHOULD be a common courtesy!

LasVegan 251 reads
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20 / 37

people together who share one simple trait?  Like; all slim people, all tall people, all blue eyed people, all educated people, all people from Las Vegas, all white people..........

I think you get it.  We call such a mindset bigotry.

While I agree with you, manners do not cost a thing, fact is, some may not even realize it when they fail to acknowledge your kindness.  Providers and hobbyists are people too and come in all shapes and sizes, backgrounds, and mannerisms.

Sorry your effort was not appreciated, maybe they did not mean to be inconsiderate, but I agree with you, we must still maintain our values even when others may not.

cuppajoe 214 reads
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21 / 37

Since this hobby could be said to be at the forefront of evolving social mores, not surprising that saying "thank you" is not a settled question.  I'm sure Miss Manners hasn't addressed this in her guide.  

Trying to keep your email footprint minimal is an acceptable goal, I think.  Not naturally conducive to common courtesy, but in time there'll be a consensus.  Then it'll be easier to tell if a person is dissing you, or just doesn't know what to do.
 
Posted By: MidnightKitty
I do not have an assistant, therefore I answer all emails myself. I tour relatively often and I have a regular job. I try to be polite and send 'thank you's' but sometimes I just don't have time. In my personal opinion, references are part of our job. I don't expect a 'thank you' because I am just doing my job. I actually get annoyed when people send 'thank you' because it creates more emails that I need to look at

ToniLove See my TER Reviews 314 reads
posted
22 / 37

When I've helped assist her in making some money,  I'll probably be to busy to respond to her next reference request.  It only takes a split second to hit respond and say "thank you"
If she's not to busy to send the request,  she shouldn't be to busy to say thanks!  
XOXO
TL



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LadyOpium See my TER Reviews 273 reads
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23 / 37

Honestly,
I have had this happen on several occasions and I just don't pay it any mind.  
I understand that we are busy and a lot of us don't always have the time to send back a  
message so I'm not holding it against the girl.  

I don't think it's about rates at all. Maybe that is just a coincidence?

Fancy8888 See my TER Reviews 220 reads
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24 / 37

Posted By: Mysterylover
When you ask for a reference and receive one but don't say, "thank you" afterwards. It bothers me because it feels like they think they're above having to say thank you. Seriously... Especially other 400 and below ladies. I'm getting thank yous from the higher end ladies than the ones at my rate. It makes me just dislike you and not want to give you another reference if you ask for one. But I'm not going to stoop that low because I still want your asses to be safe when seeing these dudes.  
 Had two ladies ask for a reference in the same hour. The higher rated at 800hr (way way higher than me BTW) and better reviewed one says thank you but the one charging 300hr didn't. This is not the first time and likely not the last but I wish some of you learn some damn courtesy manners. If you can take the time to ask me for a reference with your long ass paragraphs, you can send a quick one that says thank you. It's just been happening a lot more to me lately... What's up with this crap?

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Clients and all level hookers at risks illegal business.....

2648667 31 Reviews 232 reads
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25 / 37

More than you are the provider.  No?

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ToniLove See my TER Reviews 230 reads
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26 / 37

Fortunately,  the ladies I've exchanged references with have been very sweet and thanked me. I tell the ladies I get references from thank you all the time.  I did say "I'd probably be to busy"  
How would I be "screwing a lady over" by her ass not being professional and courteous?  References are not a requirement,  they are a courtesy and if I'm courteous  enough to give a reference,  helping her make money,  why shouldn't I expect the same courtesy by a SIMPLE thank you? I simply don't "screw people over" period!  
As for the hobbyists,  I rely on references (just started seeing newbies this week) they have another reference other than me.  
I just refuse to deal with anyone that doesn't show me the same courtesy I've shown them.
XOXO
TL

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harborview 10 Reviews 211 reads
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27 / 37
2648667 31 Reviews 222 reads
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28 / 37

Posted By: terrilynn

 How would I be "screwing a lady over"
 
I think we got some wires crossed. You said that if you provided a reference for another provider and she didn't thank you, then the next time said provider asked for a reference you'd be too busy to respond. I thought you meant that as a way to stick it to her for not being polite and saying thanks, because maybe she wouldn't be able to verify that guy so she wouldn't be able to make money from him. I'm just saying that the hobbyist then doesn't get to see someone he wanted to, so you're sort of screwing him over too.

(Yes, I said he and him here. I know not every hobbyist is a guy. My apologies to Lopaw, et al. Sometimes I'm just a jerk.)

MidnightKitty 294 reads
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29 / 37

Since it seems like your comment was directed at me- doesn't it just seem a bit redundant (the thank you)? I mean, if you are a doctor, nobody thanks you for refilling a prescription. If you are a cashier at the grocery store, no one thanks you for ringing up the produce. If you are a hairdresser, nobody thanks you for a cut. It's part of your job. By demanding a thank you for a reference request and if you don't receive one, refusing to answer reference requests is quite honestly a really distasteful thing to do.  

I may be too busy to reply with a thank you on occasion but I never will ignore a reference request, even if that person ignored my reference request. Because we are all here to keep each other safe, not kiss each other's asses.

ToniLove See my TER Reviews 303 reads
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30 / 37

I didn't even read your response to the op so I'm not sure how you think my response was directed at YOU. I also do thank people quite often in the civilian world too including the cashier hairdresser,  etc... I am from the south so maybe it's the southern hospitality or just simply being THANKFUL and appreciative.  
References are a COURTESY not a requirement and good god it can not be that hard say thank you.  
I do not have this issue with references though because for one, I only take references from well known,  reputable ladies.  I do receive thank yous and I also am very appreciative of them helping me make money so I say thank them back. I think it's just rude to not at least give a thanks to the lady assisting in helping you make money. It's not an issue of kissing someone's ass,  it's just the nice, professonal thing to do. Is saying thank you that hard? Lol  

Posted By: MidnightKitty
Since it seems like your comment was directed at me- doesn't it just seem a bit redundant (the thank you)? I mean, if you are a doctor, nobody thanks you for refilling a prescription. If you are a cashier at the grocery store, no one thanks you for ringing up the produce. If you are a hairdresser, nobody thanks you for a cut. It's part of your job. By demanding a thank you for a reference request and if you don't receive one, refusing to answer reference requests is quite honestly a really distasteful thing to do.  
   
 I may be too busy to reply with a thank you on occasion but I never will ignore a reference request, even if that person ignored my reference request. Because we are all here to keep each other safe, not kiss each other's asses.

ToniLove See my TER Reviews 270 reads
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31 / 37

Please reread my post lol  I don't have the issue of not getting nor giving thanks and i don't try to stick it to anyone. Lol  You seriously have me fucked up with someone else dear ;)  
I have never, ever had the issue of a guy not being able to see a lady over a non response to his reference request to me. Maybe it's because I say thank you and so do the ladies I exchange refs with. I have been providing for 15 years and never has anyone not said thank you to me and I say thanks back.

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 242 reads
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32 / 37

That might be the case but if the empirical observations show higher frequency thank yous coming from the higher rates it does raise some questions -- or maybe I'm just thinking along these lines as I was going to make joke about proper breeding and upbringing ;-) I do suspect the culture might matter here -- if you were raised in an area or house where please and thank you were expected it does become a habit.

But just to speculate a bit. Lets say that the high prices girls do show more manners in their interactions. That might also suggest they act in a more cultured and refined way naturally/instinctively/by habit which then makes it much less likely to come across as a paid escort in some higher end social events. That might allow the higher prices -- even not being seen in public (who knows, maybe the fantasy there is fucking the prim, proper princess or something).

Jensen36363 58 Reviews 243 reads
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33 / 37

Hmm, I say thank you to most service staff who I interact with, usually when they hand me a bag of whatever I bought. I even say thank you to most of the providers I fuck and I'm sincere about it as well.  

Hell, I've even thanked a cop of getting my ticket written and the stop over with very efficiently -- no reason not to be polite if others are not being assholes about doing their jobs.

AmiAndrews See my TER Reviews 211 reads
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34 / 37

It would be nice if we all said thank you to one another, and you're right, it should go without saying that one does this. I usually do, but admit, I have dropped the ball before and forgotten to send the courtesy thank you.

My pet peeve with references is that half the time, the lady doesn't answer at all. Ignoring a fellow SWer who is trying to protect herself, is just plain rude. I used to brush it off, now I've started noticing when this happens, so that when the tables turn.... #sorrynotsorry. :)

scoed 8 Reviews 273 reads
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Posted By: MidnightKitty
Since it seems like your comment was directed at me- doesn't it just seem a bit redundant (the thank you)? I mean, if you are a doctor, nobody thanks you for refilling a prescription. If you are a cashier at the grocery store, no one thanks you for ringing up the produce. If you are a hairdresser, nobody thanks you for a cut. It's part of your job. By demanding a thank you for a reference request and if you don't receive one, refusing to answer reference requests is quite honestly a really distasteful thing to do.  
   
 I may be too busy to reply with a thank you on occasion but I never will ignore a reference request, even if that person ignored my reference request. Because we are all here to keep each other safe, not kiss each other's asses.
I do thank, my doctor, the cashier at a store, and my barber. It literally takes one second and makes an otherwise unrewarding job just slightly better. People can make the world better with such simple acts as saying thank you. Shame so few do so.

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TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 176 reads
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36 / 37

On point Cayden!
 

Posted By: Cayden Vaughn
I'm a FT provider that tours 2 days a week, every week.  I'm an assistant to 3 other ladies and screen for several others so I ask for references all day every day and every single lady gets a thank you from me.  Am I busy?  Yes, I'm busy as hell.  I have 2 kids and a social life, a household to run plus all my other duties as an assistant, screener and provider.  Saying thank you is an acknowledgement that a person took the time to respond to my request, hopefully in a timely manner.  No provider has to participate in the reference system, in fact many do not and that is their right as well (as long as they don't ask for them).  Responding to reference requests is not part of my job description or anyone else's (Conan, is else's not a word), it's not anyone's right to receive a response, so if I take the time to let you know that I saw someone, how long ago it was and that he was fine (way more words than thank you), the least you can do is thank me for it.  
   
 I will say that I don't not respond to future requests just because I didn't get a simple thank you.  I'm too damn busy to remember crap like that. But I will never respond to a woman that is rude in her request or acts like it's my job to jump at her command or doesn't bother to provide information about who she is.  It's one thing to pull up an archived email to confirm I met a guy but I'm not Googling your email address to make sure you're a legit provider.  If they can't make it easy on me to provide them with a reference, they don't get one, simple as that.  
   
 Side note about what's in the request: I don't ask for and don't expect details about a session.  A simple yes, we've met and I would see him again is more than sufficient.  Rarely do I provide more than that, with the exception of how long it's been since our last meeting.  It's not my job to let you know what he likes and dislikes and what size condoms he needs.  That crap irritates me to no end.  If the person requesting the reference is someone I consider a friend or is someone I know pretty well from various PO boards, I may add something about his hygiene if there was an issue or tell her that he's amazing and to please give him a hug for me.  That's it and that's all it should be.  These chicks that write and ask for feedback or additional details are annoying AF.  
   
 Sorry for the ramble, I drank a whole can of Monster this morning and am all kinds of hyper right now!

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 122 reads
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