Most johns give their real names...just like the hookers do.
I have quite a few real names..as do you. If they are really persistent I simply tell them that I know Gambler
And if that doesn't turn the trick (pun intended)...I then admit to knowing mrfister, err mrfissure...shit, mrfisher. This is why so many providers require a real name...can't change that.
am still relatively new at this. and I have had a lot of bad luck with independents. most of them were in the low budget end. fake pics, bad attitudes, some were even hostile. a few times I refused service, which I believe I have the right to do. but even when I refuse I give her a gift for her trouble anyway, like $20-40. and there were other times I wished that I had refused.
I did find a few good ones but only after a whole bunch of bad. all I ask for is please have real pics, or at least be attractive, and be cooperative. I don't expect gfe on a budget. I don't need any 'extras'. just be pleasant. be nice. I'm the customer. make me happy. is that too much to ask?
anyway, lately I have been having some trouble getting a date. my calls weren't being returned. so I did a web search for blacklists and sure enough my numbers popped up on verifyHim
I had one report as a 'no show/timewaster' but I can't read it and I have no idea who it was.
the other phone number, this is really odd. multiple listings, multiple Id's, multiples cities....... cities which I have never even been to. and this is a secondary number, one I rarely use. only 3 times in total I think.
what's going on
Thank you for making my point on the newbie board about blacklists. You boys are not stupid. Even a newbie will start to wonder why he is not able to book and start looking at the "why." Sorry that happened to you, but some providers will BL for most asinine shit.
One thing though, if you are not a paying member of VH, you are going to always see a partial reporting of ANY number, name, or email you plug in. That does not mean YOU are blacklisted. It is a teaser to get people to join the site. You are pulling up random shit on dozens of people with just the basic search, and many of us have tried to explain this time and again. WE see everything..you don't.
If I search my real name on VH, there are over 40 reports but none with my first, middle, and last name. That's what we have been trying to tell you guys. You can't see the full report, which would probably reveal that you are not the one blacklisted.
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Unless there is coincidence that two mongers have very similar numbers or emails, what is the chance that it is not him..?
with a partial matching. Even providers who search their REAL NAME come up blacklisted on that site lol. It's funny.
original point...
Providers abuse BL for shit that can be resolved between the provider and the guy..
One Lady blacklisted a guy for being too fat..
I mean really....really? Too fat... What is she Bloomberg's biatch..
and find the reason WHY that guy is blacklisted. I know a girl that blacklisted a guy for cancelling on her. I saw him anyway.
It doesn't. But these sites can and do ruin lives. My big complaint with VH is the free site gives false hits without explanation that it is false thus outing even guys that never p4p. Don't get me going about NBL.
No I am not blacklisted.
It's also a semantic issue. Many people use blacklist and DNS list as interchangeable.
Providers abuse BL for shit that can be resolved between the provider and the guy..
One Lady blacklisted a guy for being too fat..
I mean really....really? Too fat... What is she Bloomberg's biatch..
saying that he was a "no show/timewaster". I have searched my real information on VH several times and reports do not come up on my real name. I get what you mean that your name comes up on the database but the information this guy is talking about is NOT supposed to be viewed by hobbyists.
yes, I tried my home # just to check too. it came up no hits. so I am pretty sure the 'no show' hit on VH wasn't random. it is entirely possible that a digruntled hag gave me a bad review, prolly for me refusing her services. but how my 2nd cell phone showed up with 20 negative hits, different IDs, different cities, maybe that was random. because even if it was one mean bitch out to get me, shouldn't all the reviews have the same client ID
If not, that is why your phone number is coming up in all those different places! It is BULLSHIT to get you to PAY the site lol. If you are not a member, you can't see the full report. You are ONLY seeing a partial teaser. My phone number does the same thing, and I know I have never hired a hooker! This is also a phone number that has never been associated with London Rayne, so it is NOT on the internet.
Let's say your number is 555-987-0999. When you put that in, it might only be pulling up offenders with your area code and first three digits such as 555-987. If you are not a MEMBER you can't see that the last 4 digits are not the same, thus making you think YOU are blacklisted.
There are at least 10 other threads about blacklists on the GD, which say this over and over again. This is nothing new. Hobbyists talk, just like we do. Some can't honestly think that not putting the name of a site on these boards is keeping them top secret? Paleeze lol.
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No, I did not resister on VH let alone pay
is the number listed with all those hits a disposable number from a pay as you go phone? This could be the reason for all the hits. It's probably belonged to a gazillion hobbyists before you.
I don't put too much credibility into those lists until I get an exact match for at least two things (among phone numbers, email addresses and names). Then I start to pay attention. But as Kera said, I will look beyond the initial BL to see what the issue was.
So, he just admitted he registered as a provider to find this out? Ooops. No wonder he is blacklisted.
Try searching your real name WITHOUT logging in, and see what happens, Kera. Do just the basic search and I bet some stuff comes up with a partial on your name or email.
Plenty of guys have gal pals who are more than happy to show them this crap.
You know that
Is it really any different than the mangina boys showing their gal pals the RO board?
Yea...that shit happens too
Try searching your real name WITHOUT logging in, and see what happens, Kera. Do just the basic search and I bet some stuff comes up with a partial on your name or email.
That's about as deluded as thinking guys don't share what is said about providers in private areas and vice versa. The actual names and links to these private sites are ALL OVER the place including this board. You'd have to be a moron to miss them.
Seeing the "public" part of those sites is useless. Seeing the "private" part can be more entertaining...but just as useless in many instances.
Back channel is my preferred method of intel. Those public sites carry little if any weight as far as I'm concerned.
If it makes some hooker/john feel better, then they accomplished their goals. But too often it is little more than the famous LE check
Blacklists should be reserved for serious shit, but so many have littered them up with so much crap, they are useless. I've seen real names and work info. posted on a guy for doing nothing but canceling. That's bullshit! You don't ruin a guy's life because he canceled on your dumb ass. You can out his handle, but his real name and work? Pathetic. I've known women to while list a guy and take it back or blacklist his handle because he did not want to see her again, or as often as she would have liked...again, pathetic.
Hard to imagine in our pristine world here LOL
That's OK...the hookers that do that bullshit generally are popular in other areas of this little world of ours.
Think they know that?
All the information that you may seek is "in a galaxy far far away"
How did he get the information? YES, I know that hobbyists forge information to get access to these sites but this guy is clearly a newbie. I highly doubt that he has provider access to verifyhim. I'm willing to bet that a provider told him OR there is a glitch in the system.
correct, I did not register for VH. I dont know if there is a glitch or not, I just am sharing the results of my search. I repeated several times and it came up the same.
nada, until my phone number.....It then showed TX, GA, IL and some innocuous info......
I didn't sign up, as you said earlier it was a teaser, and only providers can.
the info in IL said NCNS.....sorry, though I've never been a ncns...ever! never used it in TX or GA....so i call BS on that site.
it's also has a rip off report.
London Rayne, there you go again of accusing me of stuff I didnt do. stop that. I did NOT register on VH. I just did searches and am sharing with all of you the results of those searches. stop flaming me
WTF...then my very FIRST post to you explained why you THINK you are blacklisted when you are NOT! How many times do we have to say this shit before you boys get it? If you are not a member, you are not seeing the full report! You are not blacklisted! Now, onto the next BP girl for more fun times.
I went onto VH without signing in and my number comes up in a search as a hobbyist that apparently travels all over the place. I then signed in and not a single one was for my number. VH just popped up any similar phone numbers in their search results.
May I please ask what VH is? Thank you....
just discovered it this morning using a web search for 'blacklist'. several provider sites came. my #s did not appear on any other sites. some sites register registration in order to see reveiews, some require reg + payment.
All I know is if I had known about VH I would never have seen the guy that roughed me up. After I joined VH I entered his name and came back with several hits of the same thing I went through with him - same town, same phone, same alias. I went ahead and added my two cents about him as I still to this day remember the date, the time and exactly what happened.
While I am sure there is a lot of crap on VH's blacklist, I wish I had had access to it before that day. NCNS I may consider seeing, Time Wasters even; but violent/rape, things such as that, I will take seriously. Like anything else in life we have to weigh the evidence. It is one tool we use to stay safe, not the only tool.
Good post, Dawn. I am so sorry that happened to you!!
Like you, I value the good of these sites, and sift through the BS. I have to see at least two pieces of info that match a guy. I will give him a chance if he is not listed as violent, etc. Cancellations can happen to anyone.
Still not blabbing it right away bides us some time before they can change their identity and start their new robbing, ncns'ing and harsh reviewing agenda.
If you did spend any time on the PO board, you would know this is a cardinal rule we live by. But goddamn don't try to help a sister out for gods fucking sakes! Your not proving shit except you don't care to help the provider community. But hey keep blabbing.
One thing though, if you are not a paying member of VH, you are going to always see a partial reporting of ANY number, name, or email you plug in. That does not mean YOU are blacklisted. It is a teaser to get people to join the site. You are pulling up random shit on dozens of people with just the basic search, and many of us have tried to explain this time and again. WE see everything..you don't.
If I search my real name on VH, there are over 40 reports but none with my first, middle, and last name. That's what we have been trying to tell you guys. You can't see the full report, which would probably reveal that you are not the one blacklisted.
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How many times do you have to be told that a guy (a newbie in this case) does not need anyone to TELL him shit, before he starts putting this together? Did you see me spell out the entire name of that site in this thread? No, someone else did. Why did I not post it even though it's posted dozen times, already? Because as you said....for reasons of discretion and for the naive.
Stop acting like hookers have some secret service blacklist, when everyone knows about them, both public and private!
I spend COUNTLESS hours a day emailing women and trying to help them, so take your shit somewhere else, or at least have the balls to not use an alias. If I did not care about "helping a sista out" I would not GIVE AWAY business, or references at all. I am the first to respond or reply to a PM from any woman asking for help. Just because you can't hack in on the real boards and spend all day in the powder room, does not make you a team player...it makes you a has been.
I never once said it was "a good idea" to tell a guy where or by whom, he was blacklisted...not once. No one is responsible for your safety but YOU. Are you naive enough to think that just because a provider says a guy is "ok" that he really is? No wonder you expect everyone else to do your job for you.
Case in point....notice I did NOT even "hint" at the ways she could do this in public. Thanks.
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Don't take that shit too seriously.
Half of the reports on BL are disgruntled hags abusing the system. Too bad, providers are their own worst enemies. Because when they report stupid shit like that to BL, BLs have lost their importance..
Get someone to vouch for you. Join a verification site...Get some white lists....
So next time a provider sees BL against all the other good stuff about you, she will know which one to rather trust... if she is smart...
Half of the reports on BL are disgruntled hags abusing the system. Too bad, providers are their own worst enemies. Because when they report stupid shit like that to BL, BLs have lost their importance..
Get someone to vouch for you. Join a verification site...Get some white lists....
So next time a provider sees BL against all the other good stuff about you, she will know which one to rather trust... if she is smart...
If you're new to this, why aren't you seeing "well reviewed" providers?
In both of your reviews, you were the second reviewer, meaning the lady only had one review prior to your visit.
Neither were good reviews either (7/4, 5/5).
Do better research and see quality providers next time.
I am still relatively new at this. and I have had a lot of bad luck with independents. most of them were in the low budget end. fake pics, bad attitudes, some were even hostile. a few times I refused service, which I believe I have the right to do. but even when I refuse I give her a gift for her trouble anyway, like $20-40. and there were other times I wished that I had refused.
I did find a few good ones but only after a whole bunch of bad. all I ask for is please have real pics, or at least be attractive, and be cooperative. I don't expect gfe on a budget. I don't need any 'extras'. just be pleasant. be nice. I'm the customer. make me happy. is that too much to ask?
anyway, lately I have been having some trouble getting a date. my calls weren't being returned. so I did a web search for blacklists and sure enough my numbers popped up on verifyHim
I had one report as a 'no show/timewaster' but I can't read it and I have no idea who it was.
the other phone number, this is really odd. multiple listings, multiple Id's, multiples cities....... cities which I have never even been to. and this is a secondary number, one I rarely use. only 3 times in total I think.
what's going on?
Hey can you post some links to white lists? I can prolly get a few girls to vouch for me.
yes girls do mean and spiteful things. all girls. you know, blocked on facebook, reported on a dating website, stuff like that. one time a mean bitch on plenty of fish dating website reported me and had my acct removed because of a disagreement over grammer
A white list referral is a function of this site.
It is part of your profile.
A girl who is also a member of TER can Whitelist your username.
Go to My TER on the left side of the tabs at the top of the page.
Once in My TER look for my referrals. A window will open displaying your whitelist.
BTW. Your not a moron.
The only stupid question is the one you don't ask
Get a new burner phone, change your hobby name and keep going. You'll be fine. Hookers do it all the time.
LOL, and another OBVIOUS thing that guys know to do without being "told." Next...
This is why so many providers require a real name...can't change that.
Most johns give their real names...just like the hookers do.
I have quite a few real names..as do you.
If they are really persistent I simply tell them that I know Gambler
And if that doesn't turn the trick (pun intended)...I then admit to knowing mrfister, err mrfissure...shit, mrfisher.
This is why so many providers require a real name...can't change that.
from the sound of his post, he sees women that dont require much, maybe not even a fake name
How did you view info on a provider only site? I guess we have a leak.
I have told a guy he was blacklisted before right on these boards as did about 12 other hobbyists who knew about his history, but it is never wise to tell someone where, when, or by whom, much less specific details about what is said. Doing that will give away who it was that blacklisted them. If I did it, no problem but I won't out another provider.
There was a known nut job from Ohio that this entire board knew was blacklisted by myself, and a few others several times over...he is still around having his old references vouch for him
read my above posts. I could not read the review. I only got a 'hit' when I entered my number and it came back as follows:
id XXXXXX /please register/ noshow/timewaster/ NY
that is all I got.
with the other # I got like 20 hits in different cities and all tha
I did this on verifyhim (without a log in account) and there are 20 entries that say that the person is a time waster, do not see him, harasser, too aggressive, etc. I had no idea that the directory assistance people went all over the USA to see escorts, and that they were such bad clients! LOL
The white list is something a provider who is a member of TER can do for you that says she has seen you and you were not a problem. Click the link below and read what's there.
This link is in the Self-Help Center. (Oddly enough it's inside the link that says info for providers.) You can find the Self-Help Center link at the upper right of the discussion boards under the red and white life preserver.
Sounds like you need to read the Self-Help Center and spend some time reading the newbie board.
but please don't come on here with your tales of woe.
Your info is no good to us, non-tightwads
Be glad that your in not some country jail. Cheap is not the way to get started. Instead, it is dangerous in more ways than one.