Yes we all know there are losers who aren't "twitter" or tech savvy, and like to live in a fantasy universe where hookers are unicorns and candy cane, who aren't petty or out to out anyone..

hooker and Johns we all kinda are in the bubble of fantasy, Johns want a lady to act  a certain way so they can feel a certain way and then get disappointed if its not perfect as it is in there mind. That can be a hard one to fill for a service provider / hooker she not a mind reader lol. you can walk out anytime you want, and she can ask you to leave anytime she wants.  
you guys write what you got and how it went so each other can want it or not want it. That has worked very well for Johns. but if you have flat been a ass rude insulting or violent or maybe threw up in the room or shit your self, WELL a girl might retaliate. So Johnie boy /Lovey dovey check your facts clear your self up and try again nicely.  
hooker/ females or transgender or males service providers deserve decent treatment as well as the Gentlemen.     Be kind and be nice.  

Don't give her all of your personal info. Don't register on those verification escort sites.

I delete EVERYTHING! I would NEVER do what you have described. However during screenings I have had another provider tell me she wished she had never seen a certain client over his review that really hurt her business. I couldnt believe he used her as a reference. But thats as far as it should go. Not all of us behave so unprofessionally.

There are more than a few BSC hookers out there who think a 7-7 review is sufficient cause to ruin a man's life.

That is why "getting even" is such a slippery slope.  I'm sure some guys are assholes that deserve to have some form of retribution and I'm sure some providers are bitches that deserve the reviews and retribution that they get.  My thought is that is the 300 to 1000 dollars and the hour or two of my time wasted worth ruining someones life over.  Yes, I have had providers that I would like to "get even" with, but I figure if they treat me that bad they are probably miserable people to begin with and that in itself is retribution.  If I have a bad provider I generally dont leave a review at all

Leaving a lousy review for lousy service is hardly 'getting even" it's just being honest, and it's the whole reason TER was created in the first place.

Can vouch for that ,xoxo

I should have said awful reviews... I will give bad where bad is justified.

Guy left her a 7/7, said her pics were 10 years old and 30lbs ago. She then miraculously "remembered" that he tried to rawdog her and posted his personal information all over the open sewer that is SW Twitter, no blacklist, etc. - posted it on an open twitter feed. This was supposedly a "high end" girl with a "brand" to protect (snicker). She's rebranded before for similar issues.  

Yes and no.  Gaps between reviews or no recent reviews also tell a tale.

They won't cause these hookers stick together while the pathetic men can't even stand up together ...

Completely agree. I use Ter, P11 and hooker references. When they ask for additional information, I give my first name, Ter, P11 and hooker references for good faith. Never had a problem booking first time providers. I'm a little picky and do my research plus I live in hooker wonderland so it's a little easy for me.

find an UTR provider that has as much to lose as you.  low internet footprint.  twitter itself is drama and people looking for sympathy.

plus most of us already have that in one way or another.

or no recent reviews. For example, a RL relationship and a temporary retirement from P4P, SD relationship, time off for other RL issues, etc.

I find this thread interesting.

The chances of a john ever having a personal issue with a company like P 411 and Gina deciding to "out" him are less than ZERO. The chances of even a "well reviewed" hooker going BSC some day and outing one or more of her clients in a fit of rage over some perceived transgression or just because she gets burnt out and starts hating all her clients, while slim, are still much higher than "zero"

This business is about discretion on both sides. Someone who "outs" a person for something unnecessary like giving a low score should not be in this business. However, Sometimes you get what you pay for. Drugs and alcohol can also play a factor meaning they ruin your perceptual thinking. Some of us women have more to lose and choose to be discreet for not only our sake but for the men who see us.  Not fun when a wife calls u up or follows u because she found your number in his phone. Both sides please be safe and discreet.

I have seen no correlation between age of a provider and her propensity to "out" a client. Quite frankly it's more likely for an older "burnt out" hooker like the ones you find on Twatter to be the one to out a client than it is for a newer, younger, less jaded girl to turn on her clients that way.

I had one call my wife, when I was married.... My wife knew about the hooker already.  We were at the end of a shitty marriage for both of us but had a lot to sort out in the divorce.  My wife set her straight, told her if she did not shut the fuck up she would file a 1099 on her so the IRS would be looking for their tax dollars.  My ex was a real bitch

all over a bad review on another site

Troll account is trolling.

Now I can comfortably enjoy ur trolling posts

It's quite embarrassing she had to take action in this manner for a mere low score. I have a sense that she is going through a lot to backlash like this. It could be that she is going through something very difficult in her personal life. Yes, it's true that some individuals may choose to take a radical approach but I don't agree that every person would react the same. I believe that it's important to take time and truly be wise who you spend your time with. You must consider if this person is of good character. I take the time to see if my company will respect me as much as I will respect his privacy. Decisions, decisions.

I agree with GaG completely on why clients trust Gina/411 and rather share their information one time with her than to have their information with multiple people.

I would never disclose a clients personal information.  For two reasons.  First I do believe in business integrity and privacy protection.  But perhaps more importantly I'd be afraid of what you might do to me!  I'm not foolish enough to believe that any of us are completely anonymous on the internet.

I’m shocked to see that there is someone who would so such a thing . IN my opinion , exploiting someone in that manner is career suicide. Why would a guy want to book with someone who exploits a hobbyist. If they did it once, i would bet on it they’d do it again.  Shows more about the provider than the John.  

some do. Most do. You are speaking about a few bad apples. With any service, there are good and bad apples on each side of the coin. You have to do your diligence in deciphering who is good and bad, that goes for men and women, and the key to that most times is listening to that feeling in your gut after screening. If something doesn't feel right, most times it's not.  

And you just confirmed the point that I have been making, thanks

Being a relatively newer hobbyist, I was wondering how many times have providers felt threatened/unsafe while being with a 411 verified and okayed client?  
 

With a veiled threat to every guy out there.   It all depends on your definition of "harm".

I agree, I can see no reason P411 would ever release any client's information except to law enforcement.

Not all of us use p411 here for our own reasons, therefore sometimes personal info is required if he has no references (or claims to not have any). There are many guys who play games here pretending to be someone else when going thru screening (had 4 this week alone). The world on p411 is alot smaller than you think on the ladies side, same clients over and over so that gets old real quick imo. I've actually met more men who I've connected with stronger without it, and who choose to screen properly the first time. Good luck to you being a new gentlemen here!

I was recorded and the recording posted online by a P411 client.  BBFS was forced on me by a P411 client.  I was backhanded across the face by a P411 client.  I was given two counterfeit $100 bills by a P411 client.  I was outed by a P411 client. The notion that P411 clients are somehow better behaved than clients you find elsewhere completely baffles me. If anything they behave badly because their identities are cloaked. The icing on top of the cake is that only one of the jerks was removed by Gina. The others still had active accounts when I last checked.  The almighty dollar ranks higher on her list than the providers' safety so I used P411 as an advertising platform and stopped using it as a verification service.

So are you the one who was recently recorded secretly and Gina sent out a message to all? She did take action once this was reported by others as well.

Since Gina states that all paperwork is destroyed after verification is complete, the only thing she can provide is ID and LE would have to do the legwork to figure out what that means. Not everyone uses last 4 of DL etc.

BTW, how did a 411 client 'out' you? How did he get your personal info?

"Confounds" and "infuriates" me"!"

On BOTH sides... Revenge reviews are ridiculous and shameful. The people who engage in these practices should really get their head examined. Where are your priorities? This isn't serious shit it's something people do in their spare time for fun, there's no need to drag shit out by starting some stupid feud. The same thing goes for escorts. I don't have time to get on the internet and start a smear campaign about you. Let's just break it down in economic terms. You screwed me over by leaving me less money than I was owed. What's the best way for me to recoup my losses? Go around the internet posting your number, address and details about that nasty fetish you begged me to appease? Or going on my computer/phone to try and message some regulars or make new appointments so that your stupidity doesn't harm my bottom line? The only thing I do when I'm screwed over like that is block the person who did it and blacklist them wherever possible so that no women who actually screen will have to deal with what I did. Both of those actions also serve my bottom line because they reduce the number of bad clients in the market and make doing business easier as long as everyone participates. I choose productivity over pettiness and I wish everyone did the same.

1)     She is the unluckiest hooker that has ever found her way here

"You get what you pay for"....
 "A donkey will never become a race horse" ... simple as that... LOL

My provider identity is meaningless here because I retired earlier this year and maintain an account here for my assistant business.  They are 2 separate things so if I'm going to comment on my life as a provider I will use an alias.  I'm not the unluckiest provider in the world, just one that was an active provider for over a decade and a half.  Take a woman who spent that long as a full time provider and you're likely to hear many stories just like mine.

You women share personal information all the time and no one calls that "outing"

It is outing and TER's own rules state this:
Personal information
Posting personal information of members or providers, including content copied from their emails or Private Messages, is grounds for BANISHMENT.  This includes PMs between TER and members.

I wouldn't spend much time arguing with GaGa ... he just uses the responses to amp up his insult levels.  It's kind of a pointless exercise.

You are just one of the very few, but very vocal providers that claim that "many" women are following your lead.  

As a delisted provider I can't mention my old provider name, that's a TER rule.  They know who I am since they transferred my account over for me to continue getting VIP credit, just in case you think I'm breaking some rule by having another account.  Posting using my assistant account doesn't help any of the ladies I work for so I'll keep using an alias when talking about my old provider life.

There are a lot more providers who do these things than will admit to doing so in public.

its upsetting to know this happened, but unfortunately some women are just cruel like that. Don't judge all of us based on her, we aren't all like that.

So ur the guy that text us all at 3am to see if we are available to a stranger who doesn’t wanna be screened. Right? Safety and dictection leads to amazing u forgettable experiences. Just treat her the way you wish to be treated.

I personally would never purposefully mishandle someone’s private information no matter what because I value my own privacy as well. But, that’s not to say everyone would feel the same. Especially if you’re referring to them as hookers and the like 😂

I don't mind being called a john, or even a trick, and carrying it a step further there are at least a dozen people who make fun of my slanted eyes on a regular basis, but they are my friends and it's just the way friends talk to each other in a "locker room" environment like a "internet fuckboard"

I always thought he was a loser, but if he help out you he is dangerous too. Hope they never let him back in. Being a troll is forgivable but actively making this game we play more dangerous is not. I am very glad he is gone.

I have seen very few providers, most of my experience has been with sensual massage.  Some have lead to oral and FS.  I typically find someone I trust and generally limit myself.  Part of the reason is the field in which I work and the general distrust of the internet.  Somebody said in a previous post that you have to assume anything you post on the internet will become available someday and I know that to be true.

They certainly will not, since you are uniquely talented in making friends and influencing people.