...However, I don't believe for a minute that by ignoring the fact that BBFS is tolerated by some makes this lifestyle, this website or any of the Ter boards or reviews a safer place to play.

BBFS does not solely make this lifestyle dangerous. Hiding or repressing the truth in my opinion is much worse.

I would much rather read information on this topic now and then whether on the boards or in a review to better understand who is and who is not engaging.

It may ultimately end up being the best way to protect yourself.

I cant imagine regardless how often bbfs is practiced that it will end up in print naming names or in many if any reviews.

I don't see the sordid secrets put to print unless some client hiding behind an alias finds the need to either hurt a provider or to beat his own chest.

I believe that those that engage in bbfs will feel the need to protect what will be deemed by them a welcomed advantage.

Also don't forget that once the word is out in print, naming a particular provider or their client the consensus will quickly turn against them.

No one will want that stigma.
   

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Thing is - it's possible you've already seen men who does BBFS.  Just curious - would you feel bad if 15 or 20 of the clients you already saw a few weeks ago, or some of your regulars, started writing reviews that they BBFS?  Would you still want to know?  BTW, All reviews are written using one's true handle.

but the poll figures, of approval, keep climbing. Where do you go from there?

In the world of marketing, the consensus will typically win out if the purveyor is capitalistic in nature.

Let it take its course and allow everyone to make their own decision. Like you wish to.

Like Krista said, LE doesn't care anymore or less about BBFS.

You sure got the attention you wanted and it seems that this was a great publicity stunt but it's going to kill this board if you move forward with your plans. Those of us who find this topic abhorrent will leave in droves and LE will swoop in to replace us. Those who stay will eventually be accused of participating in this practice and will have no choice but to leave to save their reputations - assuming they even care about their reputation.

This board is supposed to be the one place we feel somewhat safe but you're about to destroy that. Think long and hard about the price you'll pay to boost your Alexa rating and attract advertisers. You're playing a dangerous game using this as a marketing tool.

Hopefully you'll come to your senses...

PP

When all these BBFS board posts started showing up I didn't think too much of it because mostof the posters used aliases and they seemed privy to information that I didn't have. When I cast my vote I saw the results at that time and was shocked. Thirty-two percent of respondants would consider seeing an escort who provided BBFS with limits. Fourteen percent stated they would  fully open to seeing ladies that offered BBFS. Putting comercial interests aside, TER has to respond to the community it serves. I'm sure they are as concerned as you are with the result so far.

Of course there's nothing wrong with open discussion of BBFS.  What's wrong is putting in reviews and ads, because of the inevitability of the information being mis-used as has been pointed out many  times on the thread below.
As for the reference above to "the truth," LMAO.  The problem is that the "truth" on this subject will be impossible to find.

Why would adding it in the reviews be wrong? I want to know who is practicing bbfs so I can make the informed decision not to see that client during screening.

I also dont undertand why all of sudden posting BBFS will attract LE. BBFS is not more illegal then doing a bbbj or a cbj or sex or a massage with a happy ending which already is posted and reviewed here.

We discussed this on the PHX board so instead of retyping my response i will take the lazy route and copy and paste::

I want it listed in reviews. I feel like that allows me to make a more well informed choice on who I see as a client or not. Prior to setting a date I check out the reviews that my potential date has written and If I were to notice in his reviews that he is doing bbfs I will not be seeing him as a client.

Just that extra piece of info (bbfs) well help providers make a safer decision when it comes to seeing clients or not. At this time we are still in the dark. We all know whether or not TER decides to include it , it will still be going on. But at least if TER decides to include it we can make a better decision.
Its my body and I should have the right to know exactly, who I will be sharing my body with has been doing.

The only group that this new policy would possibly hurt is the group of providers that do offer bbfs but try to keep it on the "down low" in fear of the other majority shunning them.

I have heard that some concerns are guys writing fake reviews and saying a provider offers bbfs when in reality she does not.
Perhaps if TER makes a decision saying that reviews can only include BBFS if written by your true handle.

Just my 10cents


"Not to know is bad, not to wish to know is worse."
                                             --------Nigerian Proverb

By starting BBFS freely ... it gives ANY guy the RIGHt he MIGHT think to disrespect us and ask us who don't believe in such a thing in this hobby to think its "okay" to even ask for it!!!

This BBFS is just opening it up for guys to openly do it freely more, putting it in their face, and assume or expect for a lot of girls get down like that. WELL WE DONT (just like the same to GFE and fellas assuming thats what they get when coming to a lot of girls now automatically because of what GFE became)

If we don't have reviews for the guys who seen a "18" year old who was really not that age ... then why start a BBFS forum... its already enough shit with LE but at least we play it safe and they give us a little more kudos for wrapping it up... imagine BBFS surfacing, you don't think thats going to ring LE, image a BBFS provider giving a married man HIV.. you think his wife will keep quiet??????

This world will crumble soon with all this BBFS.

Enjoy.
Like i said i wish i can know who said yes so i can blacklist them.

Especially ones that not necessarily thought the 'idea' of doing BB was wrong or embraced it  cuz it's more prevelant than most people think, but just basically talking out of their behind.

One of the reasons I don't take an alias seriously, especially when it comes to such a heated topic, is because my belief is if you can't tell a person what you think, to their face, electronically or inperson your views, their's don't hold water because they don't have the nerve or respect.

I agree. It made for quite a long thread in such a short time. Many people wrote, alias' notwithstanding.

Alias' are running rampant. More often than not it's an alias that posts a thread, or replies to one. Now they can write a review under one, and do so stating they saw a provider and BBFS was involved whether it was true or not. What's the damn point of reading a review and taking it seriously if you don't know who the author is and their experience?

Not really a 'fortune teller', but all those things and the fact the stranglehold on my posts are getting tighter made me cancel my VIP the other night. I sent them a note telling them I'm not paying into a system where I have to be monitored constantly. Just doesn't make sense to me, both moneywise and timewise.

The BBFS deal. I don't have an opinion on it personally other than it's my belief that a provider takes better care of herself and gets check-ups more often than some drunk lady you schmoozed at the bar on a Friday night to go home with you after you pounded her with a dozen whatever she drinks....

If I write a review and get the 15 days, great. And the only reason that would happen is if the lady asked me to.

I think, this and other things have been in the works for a while. Kind of a way to weed out certain elements.

From what someone told me yesterday, yeah. I can definitely see it.

So. In the grand scheme of things, hope it works out for you all.

Oh. And just incase this post doesn't 'make the cut', I've saved it and will send it via email to some people I know will appreciate what I'm trying to say.  

Peace!

so I don't want to repeat myself.  So I'll just refer you to the main thread on this board.  All the arguments are there in detail.  It's not just me but many providers and mongers who feel BBFS reviews have so much potential to be misused that the risks far outweigh the benefits.  I understand the benefit of knowing how to avoid providers who offer it.  For me, that's not enough.

CIP-BBFS = Cum inside my pussy as a finale to BBFS?

That's not unheard of.

BECAUSE it is giving trolls ammunition to point the finger at innocent providers. THAT'S why. What DON'T you understand?? Because some faceless guy on Ter says she does it , does it make it true?

From my understanding, those of us that post are a minority compared to the 'gents' that use this board to meet ladies to satisfy their carnal needs.

Just look at the top of the page. I just did and there were a little under 8000 users currently online. If all of them posted right now, you and I would be doing a hell of a lot of stimulants to read all of their posts.

Most of these are guys whose sole purpose is to find providers. They have no interest in conversing with us on this site. It's a waste of time, cuz all they want is to get laid.

And in the same respect, they don't write reviews most of the time. They don't owe us anything. It's none of our business what they do with a lady. They pay their dues, and meet ladies. Simple.

They saw you, for example, and want to meet So-and-so. You give him a great reference, and he's on his way. What they do is between them after that.

Do you give a damn if he writes a review about you? Seriously? Did every guy you see write a review about you in your illustrious career of being a hooker? I already know the answer, so don't bother.

So let's delve deeper. I'm not insinuating you do BBFS. But if you did, how would I know? You, or any other lady say you don't. The guy isn't going to say anything cuz he doesn't review and certainly wouldn't backchannel cuz no one but you and him knows what goes on BCD.

Lady, I'm not baggin' on you personally. I just think your post is more than a little naive' and you didn't think it thru. I'm just as much at fault sometimes.  

"It's not just me but many providers and mongers who feel BBFS reviews have so much potential to be misused that the risks far outweigh the benefits. "

I don't see the downside being that bad.  Say one guy posts a review of a provider saying she does BBFS.  Well I would take that with a grain of salt, until I saw several.

Another poster suggested BBFS reviews could only be posted under a real ID, not an alias - that also seems like a good idea.

Also to be considered though - what is the greater danger?  A provider with a fake BBFS review or two may lose a little business - possibly.  But preventing real BBFS reviews puts MANY more people in statistically greater jeopardy.  You are saying a theoretical concern that has not even happened yet outweighs a very real and practical concern that already affects all of us.

TER now accepts reviews by an alias.  Every VIP can create a single review alias.  Go to "My TER,"  click on "My Aliases" and look at the right side of the page.  You'll see a drop-down arrow that will give you a choice of "Board Alias" or "Review Alias."
This was the most recent "innovation" by TER before BBFS and created a lot of controversy.  Wonder what they'll think of next to drive traffic in a few months?

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End of your fucking, suppose one can get  vasectomy but paternity suits still may come.

but I'm still not convinced.  Also, most guys will not post a BBFS review under their handle because they'd get on most girls' DNS lists, or even blacklists.

The polls are also a bunch of Alias all of a sudden posting.

Its funny people have to sign out their orig TER name to talk about BBFS under Alias... how accurate is that???

If you think law enforcement doesn't care about BBFS, then maybe you should do research on how escorts with Aids/HIV can be arrested (even if they were not aware that they had it)

LMAO AT LE DOESNT ABOUT BBFS. WOW!!

IM SURE THEY DONT CARE IF DRUG DEALERS SMOKE THEIR OWN WEED EITHER. LMAO

A BBFS review will not hurt business "a little" as you have stated. It will hurt business by about 50%. And if it is based on SLANDER then let me ask if YOU would be happy about that happening to you. Or if slander made your children suffer when you can't take care of your family?! A bad review may "hurt business a little" but the FACT is that for MANY hobbyists, a BBFS review, can NOT be disproven by ANY means and it is a deal breaker for those hobbyists. Period! Once you are suspected of BBFS the damage is irreversible!!! Will you lose all your business? No, but a very significant amount. We are human beings with real problems just like you. This new policy would hurt a lot of innocent people in a very real way!

Most providers don't have health insurance, can't afford it or don't even know what health insurance actually is.

All public health services are over stretched due to continuing budget cuts at the state and federal levels.

STD testing and treatment including HIV and AIDS care is expensive, not cheap. The last thing anyone wants is a bunch of hobby folks flooding the public health system to get tested and treated should a local breakout of any STD occur putting more pressure on the public health system.

It is just too easy for LE to target BBFS providers and clients using public health risk as an excuse. The general public will buy a public health risk excuse much easier than a human trafficking excuse which is more difficult to relate to in these parts of the world. Believe me, the last thing any taxpayer wants is to see their tax bills go up because they have to pay medical bills for careless hookers and johns.

I think many providers will choose to be delisted to protect themselves by getting reviews fake or real stating BBFS.