am still relatively new at this.  and I have had a lot of bad luck with independents.  most of them were in the low budget end. fake pics, bad attitudes, some were even hostile. a few times I refused service, which I believe I have the right to do. but even when I refuse I give her a gift for her trouble anyway, like $20-40. and there were other times I wished that I had refused.  

Thank you for making my point on the newbie board about blacklists. You boys are not stupid. Even a newbie will start to wonder why he is not able to book and start looking at the "why." Sorry that happened to you, but some providers will BL for most asinine shit.  

Don't take that shit too seriously.  

Unless there is coincidence that two mongers have very similar numbers or emails, what is the chance that it is not him..?

If you're new to this, why aren't you seeing "well reviewed" providers?

with a partial matching. Even providers who search their REAL NAME come up blacklisted on that site lol. It's funny.

original point...

Hey can you post some links to white lists?  I can prolly get a few girls to vouch for me.  

saying that he was a "no show/timewaster". I have searched my real information on VH several times and reports do not come up on my real name. I get what you mean that your name comes up on the database but the information this guy is talking about is NOT supposed to be viewed by hobbyists.

and find the reason WHY that guy is blacklisted. I know a girl that blacklisted a guy for cancelling on her. I saw him anyway.

Get a new burner phone, change your hobby name and keep going. You'll be fine. Hookers do it all the time.

yes, I tried my home # just to check too. it came up no hits.  so I am pretty sure the 'no show' hit on VH wasn't random.  it is entirely possible that a digruntled hag gave me a bad review, prolly for me refusing her services. but how my 2nd cell phone showed up with 20 negative hits, different IDs, different cities, maybe that was random.  because even if it was one mean bitch out to get me, shouldn't all the reviews have the same client ID

How did you view info on a provider only site? I guess we have a leak.

So, he just admitted he registered as a provider to find this out? Ooops. No wonder he is blacklisted.

May I please ask what VH is? Thank you....

Plenty of guys have gal pals who are more than happy to show them this crap.

That's about as deluded as thinking guys don't share what is said about providers in private areas and vice versa. The actual names and links to these private sites are ALL OVER the place including this board. You'd have to be a moron to miss them.

Seeing the "public" part of those sites is useless.  Seeing the "private" part can be more entertaining...but just as useless in many instances.

Blacklists should be reserved for serious shit, but so many have littered them up with so much crap, they are useless. I've seen real names and work info. posted on a guy for doing nothing but canceling. That's bullshit! You don't ruin a guy's life because he canceled on your dumb ass. You can out his handle, but his real name and work? Pathetic. I've known women to while list a guy and take it back or blacklist his handle because he did not want to see her again, or as often as she would have liked...again, pathetic.

It doesn't. But these sites can and do ruin lives. My big complaint with VH is the free site gives false hits without explanation that it is false thus outing even guys that never p4p. Don't get me going about NBL.  

Hard to imagine in our pristine world here  LOL

LOL, and another OBVIOUS thing that guys know to do without being "told." Next...

How did he get the information? YES, I know that hobbyists forge information to get access to these sites but this guy is clearly a newbie. I highly doubt that he has provider access to verifyhim. I'm willing to bet that a provider told him OR there is a glitch in the system.

Most johns give their real names...just like the hookers do.

I did this on verifyhim (without a log in account) and there are 20 entries that say that the person is a time waster, do not see him, harasser, too aggressive, etc.  I had no idea that the directory assistance people went all over the USA to see escorts, and that they were such bad clients!  LOL

nada,  until my phone number.....It then showed TX, GA, IL and some innocuous info......
I didn't sign up, as you said earlier it was a teaser, and only providers can.
the info in IL said NCNS.....sorry, though I've never been a ncns...ever! never used it in TX or GA....so i call BS on that site.
it's also has a rip off report.

I have told a guy he was blacklisted before right on these boards as did about 12 other hobbyists who knew about his history, but it is never wise to tell someone where, when, or by whom, much less specific details about what is said. Doing that will give away who it was that blacklisted them. If I did it, no problem but I won't out another provider.  

If not, that is why your phone number is coming up in all those different places! It is BULLSHIT to get you to PAY the site lol. If you are not a member, you can't see the full report. You are ONLY seeing a partial teaser. My phone number does the same thing, and I know I have never hired a hooker! This is also a phone number that has never been associated with London Rayne, so it is NOT on the internet.  

A white list referral is a function of this site.
It is part of your profile.
A girl who is also a member of TER can Whitelist your username.
Go to My TER on the left side of the tabs at the top of the page.
Once in My TER look for my referrals. A window will open displaying your whitelist.

The white list is something a provider who is a member of TER can do for you that says she has seen you and you were not a problem. Click the link below and read what's there.  

All the information that you may seek is "in a galaxy far far away"

It's also a semantic issue.  Many people use blacklist and DNS list as interchangeable.  

Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan

original point...  
   
 Providers abuse BL for shit that can be resolved between the provider and the guy..  
   
 One Lady blacklisted a guy for being too fat..  
   
 I mean really....really? Too fat... What is she Bloomberg's biatch..

from the sound of his post, he sees women that dont require much, maybe not even a fake name

All I know is if I had known about VH I would never have seen the guy that roughed me up.  After I joined VH I entered his name and came back with several hits of the same thing I went through with him - same town, same phone, same alias.  I went ahead and added my two cents about him as I still to this day remember the date, the time and exactly what happened.  

I went onto VH without signing in and my number comes up in a search as a hobbyist that apparently travels all over the place. I then signed in and not a single one was for my number. VH just popped up any similar phone numbers in their search results.

London Rayne, there you go again of accusing me of stuff I didnt do. stop that. I did NOT register on VH. I just did searches and am sharing with all of you the results of those searches.  stop flaming me

No, I did not resister on VH let alone pay

but please don't come on here with your tales of woe.
Your info is no good to us, non-tightwads

just discovered it this morning using a web search for 'blacklist'. several provider sites came. my #s did not appear on any other sites.  some sites register registration in order to see reveiews, some require reg + payment.

correct, I did not register for VH. I dont know if there is a glitch or not, I just am sharing the results of my search. I repeated several times and it came up the same.

read my above posts. I could not read the review. I only got a 'hit' when I entered my number and it came back as follows:

thank you :

WTF...then my very FIRST post to you explained why you THINK you are blacklisted when you are NOT! How many times do we have to say this shit before you boys get it? If you are not a member, you are not seeing the full report! You are not blacklisted! Now, onto the next BP girl for more fun times.

is the number listed with all those hits a disposable number from a pay as you go phone? This could be the reason for all the hits. It's probably belonged to a gazillion hobbyists before you.  

Good post, Dawn. I am so sorry that happened to you!!

Still not blabbing it right away bides us some time before they can change their identity and start their new robbing, ncns'ing and harsh reviewing agenda.  

Be glad that your in not some country jail. Cheap is not the way to get started. Instead, it is dangerous in more ways than one.

How many times do you have to be told that a guy (a newbie in this case) does not need anyone to TELL him shit, before he starts putting this together? Did you see me spell out the entire name of that site in this thread? No, someone else did. Why did I not post it even though it's posted dozen times, already? Because as you said....for reasons of discretion and for the naive.