Wow, Golden Pussy Syndrome??? So clients in different cities should be pre-charged for idiots that are already foreseen to to not show, oh and by the way it's a free country
Food
Lodging (Conferences, holidays/spring break etc, check hotel rates now in some cities, will blow your mind)
Transport/uber
NCNS/FLAKES/TIMEWASTERS/CANCELLATIONS
Free country
High cost of living cities NYC, CALI
New to an area
Conferences, holidays/spring break
The list goes on. Touring overhead is high. If a lady makes her ROI and has a bad tour the "high rate" covered that.
The classic "touring tax". Yes, we all know that lodging isn't free, but some of the extra charges I've seen lately are just eye popping. For example, there is a highly rated provider from a large west coast city currently touring in a large east coast city (I'll leave out the exact cities to protect her identity) who is charging some pretty hefty touring taxes. They are as follows:
1hr: $100 above her normal incall rate
90min: $150 above her normal incall rate
2hrs: $300 above her normal incall rate
The east coast city she is currently touring in is pretty expensive, but the west coast city she lives in isn't cheap either. I can maybe see a $50 to even $100 extra charge when touring to help covers lodging/travel costs, but $300 just seems excessive.
I can certainly see both sides to the argument, but personally I always pass on providers that charge extra when touring.
Thoughts? (From both providers and hobbyists)
free market economy. As the saying goes; "whatever the market will bear." Whenever I feel a provider's rates are too high, I look elsewhere. If that happens enough, she either adjusts her rate or goes back to her day job.
So in fact it reveals nothing about the "real him"
Keep in mind, this is the very same guy who was White Knighting for BBBBB. I wonder if it was a coincidence that he disappeared from the boards for several months after she was making "offers of appreciation" for guys to WK for her. Maybe he needed time for things to "clear up" if you know what I mean?
but I've NEVER seen a touring lady charge $300 per hour more than her home rate. Most are rather smart businesswoman who don't shoot themselves in the foot by marking up their rates so high as to offend the the shrewd negotiators and just plain stupid fucks they're trying to attract. If they do, you won't see them touring for long.
I can think of one particularly hot Asian woman who I saw in Dallas at $300 hr had absolutely no problems at all keeping her dance card full at $600 hr in NYC.
Actually the guys in NY thought they were getting a steal at that price, and I am inclined to agree with them.
I think you might want to reword part of your statement, I doubt many women care at all about offending the "shrewd negotiators" very few business people of any kind, especially those in the service industry make their living off of the "shrewd negotiators" Sorry Jack.
Actually the guys in NY thought they were getting a steal at that price, and I am inclined to agree with them.
I think you might want to reword part of your statement, I doubt many women care at all about offending the "shrewd negotiators" very few business people of any kind, especially those in the service industry make their living off of the "shrewd negotiators" Sorry Jack.
But some people around here take others comments top literally, while offering a bit of tongue in cheek themselves ... I said I never say never, then follow up that by saying "I NEVER saw .... "
I have to pass on the $5, 6, or 700 and up ladies, regardless of their rep. I'll admit that I've delighted in the pleasure of many women over the years at a lesser rate. As always, there are people in the world without a budget. Whooopeeee? IDGAS ...
So I certainly don't judge a lady, I just move on. No need for a lot of wasted research. Worth and value are established I'm the marketplace. If $600 is looked at as a bargain, I'd raise my price next time. My original point was I don't research high price hookers. So I'd never even see the pricing gradient.
Shit, I said "always" are exceptions. I usually don't use that word either, but I won't be rewording either faux pas. Faux pas? LOL
GaG, always insightful ... but read between the lines sometime. This isn't vector mathematics. ... but I do enjoy your commentary.
Sometime! (get it?
for a few reasons. But the provider has to ensure her costs are covered as you understand. But you also have to take no shows
into consideration, especially if she's a new visitor.
As I said, I rarely see touring ladies unless they regularly visit the area. Recently, two providers that I pre-booked with, cancelled because there wasn't enough interest to warrant the trip. Call me psychic, but I think they were trying to make a profit as opposed to
a brief visit where they might get laid. Even with a sure thing ... m
I had to re-read this comment- (Quoted in part).
"But I think they were trying to make a profit as opposed to a brief visit where they might get laid".
Does the fella' that posted this actually think the gal's tour just so they can get laid in a strange city ?
into consideration, especially if she's a new visitor.
As I said, I rarely see touring ladies unless they regularly visit the area. Recently, two providers that I pre-booked with, cancelled because there wasn't enough interest to warrant the trip. Call me psychic, but I think they were trying to make a profit as opposed to
a brief visit where they might get laid. Even with a sure thing ... me
You're serious right? SMH !!!!'!! Why else would they tour unless they were so horny and need dick? ROFLMFAO
When you're gorgeous with a perfect body and you can't get laid at home, they're forced to hit the road to find some dick. Hookers get horny too, right?
They just raise their prices to ensure they don't get too much dick.
Shrewd and cunning lot, those wenches. Some even expect to cum.
Ladies, please excuse this advance release, an excerpt from my new book, "Whoring with Hookers", Chapter 134, p. 469, Horny Hookers Hit the Hiway. 😂 I had to, to respond to this well though question.
See ladies, I learned well from y'all. I'll be selling it for $1499.99 so I'll only have to sell 2 to break even. See, I like to get fucked too?
By the way, should I use my real name on the cover, or just NoB?
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Well years ago when I toured the East Coast, it didn't occur to me to raise my fee while touring.
However, I do think it is a fair practice, Especially if you are Independent and staying in nice 4 & 5 star hotels/resorts. That can get really expensive. I don't know about $300 more than your regular rate, but I don't know what the providers reasoning is.
I like to give the benefit of doubt
Flight
Food
Lodging (Conferences, holidays/spring break etc, check hotel rates now in some cities, will blow your mind)
Transport/uber
NCNS/FLAKES/TIMEWASTERS/CANCELLATIONS
Free country
High cost of living cities NYC, CALI
New to an area
Conferences, holidays/spring break
The list goes on. Touring overhead is high. If a lady makes her ROI and has a bad tour the "high rate" covered that.
The client should be concerned for the providers overhead costs? I can't imagine any other busness that would list all the reasons for why they charge what they do. Sure, they will pass the cost on to the customer.
Remember, it's the provider's choice where she decides to do business .
No one said the "client should be concerned" about her "overhead costs." But if the hooker isn't concerned she won't make a decent profit. What business that you know of does not factor their cost of doing business into their rate? It's a pretty simple concept. But one that seems to be over your head.
Wow, Golden Pussy Syndrome??? So clients in different cities should be pre-charged for idiots that are already foreseen to to not show, oh and by the way it's a free country
Food
Lodging (Conferences, holidays/spring break etc, check hotel rates now in some cities, will blow your mind)
Transport/uber
NCNS/FLAKES/TIMEWASTERS/CANCELLATIONS
Free country
High cost of living cities NYC, CALI
New to an area
Conferences, holidays/spring break
The list goes on. Touring overhead is high. If a lady makes her ROI and has a bad tour the "high rate" covered that.
Another way to look at it.
Some ladies just have a rate at 1k or more minimum so wherever they tour they will be ok and don't have to worry about rate increasing for tours and such.
At a higher rate someone may see fewer people but if someone is low volume that is ideal I can see that working as well
I guess the main thing is that it's a risky endeavour to tour - airfares, hotel rates (which are higher in some cities than others) advertising, taxis etc so some ladies feel justified in charging extra to cover this. It depends what your risk aversion level is like ultimately. I love to tour. It's the main reason I love this job. What other work would allow you to drive for 3 months across the US seeing the Grand Canyon and lots of towns and cities and meet loads of amazing gents who call you ma'am, and still go home with a bit of extra dosh in your pocket. For me it's about the ability to see the world so if I make costs and a bit extra I'm happy. That's why I don't charge more than I do at home, but some ladies it's the only source of income so if they spend $2000 setting up a tour and then only make that much it's a bust
Just my thoughts ![]()
Going all the way to LA to break even because I am low volume is basically like taking a paid working vacation. You have the ladies over there that charge $800-$1000 per hour with no slide on the fee for multiple hours but guys whine that I raise my rate by a lousy $100 because the flight and cost of the hotel in Beverly Hills is ridiculously expensive. So, I tour over here where guys don't act like pussies and I don't need to increase my rate to enjoy the company of much higher quality people.
I had recently been perusing profiles planning for future trips when I say a providers ad for her home state, I thought she was hot and made a note of seeing her when I traveled to her city. To my surprise I saw her ad a couple of weeks later and it said that she was touring my city. I decided to contact her. As I was looking through some of her reviews and pics I noticed her donations had change, thinking maybe it was a mistake on my part I looked up her rates for when she was in her city and they were indeed lower than her rates for what she was charging in my city. I decided against seeing her. Personally it came off as a huge turn off. I get the argument: flights, rentals, hotel fees etc, but to me it came across as finagling. But to each his/her own, I don't knock it. Just as it is a providers choice to up her rates while visiting certain cities, it is the clients choice to not fall for the okie doke.
...trying to convince them to tour your area ("you'll make a killing in my city, I'll definitely book an hour!")? If she's smart, she's priced to make the trip worth her while. Perhaps you'd prefer a loss leader approach to get you in the room where she can upsell to reach her revenue target. Sorry you can't afford an extra benji or two to get your dick wet.
..like New York, an increase from their normal rate is often less than the going rate here in LA. So I'm not complaining too much about it.
and on top of that some ladies like to do other things when touring like sightseeing or visiting friends or family member. Sometimes the rate increase is to control the volume of clients. A higher rate leads to a lower volume of calls which may be ideal for the lady to only see 2 guys instead of 4 if you get my point. There are many reasons but having a touring increase or minimum is common.
Each provider is different.
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..it should have gone under the OP's post.
and, as a result, posting under the wrong person. So here's a helpful hint: click on someone's post and look just below the top right of the screen. You'll see "Tree | Flat." Make sure you are clicked on "Tree."
Also, for god's sake if your post is only in the subject line and there's nothing written in the "message" section, please put an "eom" (for "end of message") at the end of the subject line so we don't waste our time clicking on your message.
Thank you for your support.
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The addition charge is less than it would cost to travel across the country to see a provider.... A well reviewed traveling provider is worth some extra $$$...I guess.
I have gotten hate mail from 5 providers for my original thoughts.
One apologized for realizing I wasn't talking about her.
I wish all the traveling women safe travels.
If I'm not comfortable paying the freight I simply won't. If I want to see you bad enough I'll make an exception.
Happy Hobbying Everyone
1hr: $100 above her normal incall rate
90min: $150 above her normal incall rate
2hrs: $300 above her normal incall rate
The east coast city she is currently touring in is pretty expensive, but the west coast city she lives in isn't cheap either. I can maybe see a $50 to even $100 extra charge when touring to help covers lodging/travel costs, but $300 just seems excessive.
I can certainly see both sides to the argument, but personally I always pass on providers that charge extra when touring.
Thoughts? (From both providers and hobbyists)
Get back to me when you get a few hundred, THEN maybe you will be qualified to compare notes with me. I don't have hundred of hate mails, I have hundreds of pages of hate mail. lol