Um ok, if the girl charged you for an hour and gave you an hour that is NOT clock watching people! What is up with so many guys getting pissed off if the provider will not allow you to go OVER the allotted time, and reviewing her as a clock watcher? She did her fkin job if you got the time you paid for, NOT 20 minutes over the damn time!

A clock watcher should only be used when the girl is literally trying to get you out the door before your time is up or I don't know...actually watching the effin clock when you're there. I am all for giving extra time and do it quite frequently because I don't work a lot...I enjoy the date experience when I have them, but I will be damned if I give a guy 2 hours when that is what he paid for, and he has the nerve to call me a clock watcher.

Another little tidbit...MSOG means multiple pops IN THE TIME YOU PAY FOR guys, not all damn night! If you only get an hour and take 55 minutes to get your first one, who the hell are you you trying to kid by saying she does not offer multiples? She damn well does if your Viagra or Whiskey d*ck, can do it in the time you pay for!

Just sayin!

How bad was the review London?

I totally agree.  Any extra time should be considered a nice "bonus" and should never be expected.  It seems unreasonable for anyone to expect this time without compensating the provider.   After all that is what they are receiving their "donation" for right.

You're trying to teach responsibility and respect to man-children who feel entitled and empowered simply because they have money to spend.

If they had these qualities to begin with....they wouldn't be cheating on their wives or spending family money on hookers just to make them feel like they still matter.
Your words are true....but fall on the deaf ears of those in denial.

Just sayin'

I'm aware of the clock during the entire session and i cut of all sexual activities 5 minutes prior to my session ending.

Theirs only 1 provider Ive seen who was a clock watcher.

I scheduled a 1 hour appointment she takes a shower which last about 15 minutes. Greatly appreciated by me as she's feeling really good , then after showering we talk 10 minutes getting to know one another. 35 minutes later im informed my time is up huh??

So the time you took to shower and talk how does that get counted against my time ?

That's my definition of a clock watcher.

Honey you are angry!

My FIRST time, I got 80 minutes. I was so happy. I was actually expecting 60 minutes, not a minute more. So that 1/3 hr extra came as a huge surprise in a good way.

Also the reason why I tipped her 1/3hr worth. I'm a reasonable guy.

Anyways it looks like this guy REALLY pissed you off though!

simple explanation..most men act like spoiled brats..they figure once they leave the donation they are entitled to most anything extra they can think of..they pay for the package but then want it gift wrapped with a bow on top..if they do not get it..they write a shitty review and whine about it..i love honesty and fairness..it is rare in this hobby..

The fuckers can't tell time. They have tried and for the most part succeeded in making an hour = 60 minutes into 90 minutes...like 5 inches  = 8 inches..all hobbyist speak.

Thank the fucking universe I don't have t deal with guys who can't tell the time.

Ladies, deal with this bullshit!!!!!

this should not be part of the review. Otherwise, all guys will expect extra time and it is not fair to the lady. You know, all hobbyists are not as nice as you are.

I just want to lay on my back and spread my legs for you. You have this awesome way of telling it like it is. There is nothing   hotter than a woman who is brutally honest. Lawn boy, I envy you so bad.

Wow 15 mins over to get a 2nd pop that's rude.

Guys who try abuse time make all of us guys look bad.

I'm glad we're getting a chance to discuss clock watching , i don't think this topic has been discussed before.

how about if you show up 10 minutes early (my custom) and she texts you at the time you are supposed to be there and the hotel is so fucked up it takes you 15 minutes to find the fucking room because you can't ask security "excuse me I'm trying to find my hooker in room number XXX because your hotel layout is fucked up" and she takes that out of your time? Have a nice day!

why didn't you call to say you'll be late and the reason?

after the pillow talk was wrapping up and I thought we were going to move to redressing any minute (cause I literally DON'T watch a clock, but do have a semi-aware idea of when time is passing us by, LOL) said to me, let's have another one of those great BJs...I was thinking, is he kidding?  I excused myself to go to the restroom and take a peek at the time so I could treat the situation appropriately, and saw that he had about 7 mins left, and what was I going to do, say no?  I felt like it saying get out you selfish prick (LOL), but instead I honored his request and he overstayed his paid time by at least 15 mins to get his second pop...and the only reason it wasn't longer is because his phone rang and he knew he needed to hurry so he finished himself really quick...that is fucking rude.  Do not ask for more favors when your time is almost up, so fucking thoughtless...and I won't see you again.

Are you claiming she intentionally added a wing onto the hotel just to delay your arrival?

It's her fault that you got lost?

who write reviews and say how much extra time they got! Instead of realizing it is YMMV, and the lady was doing them a favor, or being nice to them, they write the review saying, "I paid for two hours but she stayed for 4!" Then the next fucktard, not understanding YMMV, expects a bunch of extra time and gets pissed because he didn't get extra time.

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...it's her responsibility to be ready to go when you get there.  OTOH, if you take a shower when you get there, the clock is running.

Talking also counts against your time.  It's up to you to move it along if you see she is stalling.  Not only was she a clock watcher for telling you your time was up but she was also a time waster.

It stressed that you should keep this information to yourself, especially if the lady gives you extra time.

StarrRider,

Don't go blaming anybody, this time it was your fault.  It was time for you to say something.  He still had time left, but not enough, it's your business-speak up, be nice and tell him the truth.  It's not his fault he wanted another bbj you had two options, suggest something that would fit the time or tell him how much the extra time would cost.  Could it be you were a little angry with yourself for not sticking up for yourself?

Usually the room number is texted the same day a few hours before the meeting.
Or whenever she is checked in.

Texting you it at the exact meeting time isn't cool!

But really, 15 minutes to find a room?
That's like walking a mile at a consistent rate of 4mph.

Here it is:

No, the point I'm making is, don't put me in this position...I'm too fucking nice...the guy won't have an opportunity to make this mistake again...however, I don't want to be the one to ruin someone's entire experience with me by making them think they are an inconvenience...I will just never let them have an opportunity to inconvenience me again.

This is the reaction I can imagine getting: wow, I just paid you x amount of dollars and you are going to haggle over a few minutes?  Sorry, I'm just not going to open up that conversation, I'm just never going to repeat with you because that was not cool.
now, if we started 20 minutes till end time and it took a little longer, no biggie...if we having a nice conversation going and I don't have to get somewhere, no biggie...but seriously, asking me to service you at the very last moments of our time together, that's bullshit.

... is normal for London.

When London is mad, it reminds me of road rage. It only took ONE person to cut her off, but she takes her rage out on everyone else, just like she did in her "lesson".

Just another day in the forums...

Serpius

Re: Honey you are angry!

This chick always seems angry.    She is really making business bad for herself.   I think she lives in like Kansas or something like that.  ;  .  Wow

These women have it all wrong and it demonstrates that they are "street hookers".  The women that I see are at least $500 for the hour and most will sit and talk and drink with you for an hour after you fuck.   That's called GREAT customer service.  See these women have not figured it out and want it to be an assembly line.   I guess they are NOT concerned with repeat customers and just want to fuck and then the money.  So many have it so wrong and this is why they post angry posts.   Simple

I agree 100% with you that if I pay for an hour, I get an hour. If I pay for two hours, I get 2 hours. I am often the clock watcher during a session. I've been asked to hang around past the time by a few favorites and I have, but this time was hang out time, talking cuddling, laughing etc. I appreciate the extra time, but I don't think it's appropriate to take advantage of it. So, I know it takes me a few minutes to get dressed, so at a few minutes till my time is up I start getting dressed. It's not rocket science, you get what you pay for and if you don't then don't go back.

Conversely, I don't not appreciate when a provider is checking her phone during the date. I'm confident from reading your posts LR that you don't do that.

... all of that anger is not going to change the situation.

I do agree that it is the provider's fault for allowing a client to stay another 10-15 minutes. Starrider claims it's because she's too nice, whose fault is that? Because of that one incidence, the hobbyists that see her in the future will have to deal with a very HIGH priced clock watcher.

Serpius

... blame the hobbyist for staying over because YOU allowed it.

A question for you...

If you had an 2 hour session and the hobbyist has enjoyed his time, maybe even got 2 pops in, but he leaves at 90 minutes. Question: Do you refund the 30 minutes that were never used? Would you do that because you are too nice of a person not to provide a refund?

I am certain that you'll flame me for this post, but the real problem is the person reading this post.

Serpius

More than once, I have had a scheduled appointment where the lady was running late, by more than 30 minutes, because she didn't kick someone else out on time earlier in the day.  Usually that's more a matter of the previous guy getting there late, but sometimes it's him trying to get more time.  Often, my schedule is tight and I am due someplace after the appointment, so I end up with no session, and she loses money with because of our cancelled session.  (Incidentally, this happens more with FBSM girls than escorts, because FBSM girls are more likely to have back to back appointments without as much need for downtime between.)

Who's fault is that?  Well, it's hers.  She doesn't want to be considered a "clock-watcher" but that's the nature of the business.  If you aren't good at managing your clients and controlling the time, then you aren't a good provider.  You can't make your other clients suffer because you didn't want to be firm with one earlier in the day.

An appointment ends 1 hour (or 2 or whatever) after the scheduled start time.  It does not end 1 hour after the actual start time.  If you have a 1 hour appointment at 5, then I don't care if the client gets there at 5:30 because of traffic.  If there is someone waiting to come in at 6:15, then the late client gets 30 minutes (at full price) or nothing.  Period.

Ladies we can all raise our rates to $500 an hour and have the intimate time for 60 minutes and then sit and chat for another hour. Multi hours would also go up exponentially with more chat time...I can go for that.

So you fiddy and serp can avoid those rip off $300 and $400 an hour ladies and leave them to the "other" guys.

I have a 2 hour min. so no need for rushing.

about what a complete PSYCHO you are. My last review was a 10/10, so duh...this is not about me. Considering my post has 16 likes, should give you a clue about how many people AGREE WITH ME lol.

It is about other ladies who are sick of bs from morons like you. I am not the one begging for business and laying on my back all day hon...have enough SD types to take care of me, and if you notice my reviews have never stopped coming. TER allows me to charge what I do and work when I want, not YOU! So sorry, I don't get 10 clients a damn week, but I am not trying to fk that much...my vagina would fall off.


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missing a few idiots, and 4 are in this thread. Too bad they are too dumb to know it. Reading comprehension is not a strong suit of many. Everyone seems to miss that I said I always offer extra time and do so gladly, but when it is expected or a guy reviews a gal badly for doing her job, well that says it all. There is a reason so many women do not see certain board boys...

There are literally 5 guys in this very thread, that ALL got extra time with me and on the FIRST meeting...you included lol. So the deluded fktards screaming about customer service need to project that on another hooker...I am no the one.

I guess the truth hurts because this post has 16 likes as of now, so obviously A LOT of women are sick of the bs!

-- Modified on 11/16/2012 12:02:56 PM

You're just pissed because she hands you your ass everytime you say something stupid. Which is often.
You probably expect a girl to give you extra time. Am I right?

and never will. I have already worked myself up to a rate and volume level that allows me to tell some entitled johnnie boy, to get fked and see another hooker who needs his money lol. I don't.

Re: Honey you are angry!

I know today isn't you're first day. I know you have read her threads where she states she is nit her to kiss anybodies ass. She always tells it like she sees it, some of you can't handle it.

Why is it wrong that she would be upset at a bad review when she gave the guy what he paid for. I don't order a salad at a steak house and get pissed that I didn't get a steak.

Check out how many people have liked her thread.

what I was talking about. I am flat out saying when a provider sells an hour to you and GIVES YOU AN HOUR, she is not a clock watcher. I am not talking about all the stupid shit hookers do, but we can also get into that. I have NEVER in 5 years took off the guy's shower time, and usually always either pay for dinner if they book a dinner date, or go off the clock when they book only 2 hours...this is not about ME.

I am just sick of guys bashing providers who can't do that, because they are trying to work and feed a family. I am not the typical escort who works every day or every week, so I can afford to offer the extras and am happy to do it. Still I am not every provider and others should not be punished because they are doing exactly what they said they would do! If she is going her JOB which is giving you exactly what you pay for an not a damn thing more, she is still not a clock watcher! Saying because she did not give you EXTRA time that you did NOT compensate for makes her a clock watcher is absurd. That is like suing your Attorney because he would not let you stay 2 hours when you paid for one.

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Those two fucktards make the rest of us look bad. I have said countless times on here, that I treat the ladies with respect. That is what will get you extra time, but I never expect it.

They also are delusional and think they have something  that would make you want to stay and talk to them I know most if your clients you would not find attractive in any way. Please don't lump all hobbyist in with those idiots. I'm  not like that just ask around.

out of my ass? Here's a clue..there are women here who are too nice and too afraid of losing business to post what they want, so guess who does it? You guessed it, because I don't and never will beg anyone on some fk board to like or see me lol. His every word contradicts the other. He says, "Offer great customer service and you will make more money and get to work less." Hmm, is that not EXACTLY what I am dong lol.

He then says, "If you don't like your job, get out." Again, who does not like their job? I love my job because I am smart enough to have built a rep and a rate level that does not force me to see idiots like FIDODUMB bwahahhaah.

"These women are street walkers with an assembly line." Um, yea babe I am on TER 6-8 hours a day...where the fk is the line lol. How many guys in New Orleans do you think are going to pay my rate? Very few, and I have them all on TER lol.

"Give clients extras and you will build a rep and have repeat clients." Again, hmmm who is supporting me so that I can post on hooker boards all day long and not have to lay on my back? Could that be REPEAT CLIENTS? A sugar daddy? Another income I can make in my sleep?

Next...



-- Modified on 11/16/2012 12:09:44 PM

very good. I also usually COOK dinner and buy the food out of my own pocket, which is why I DO have plenty of men who take care of me, and feel no need to kiss ass for more.

You paying 500 in one of the most expensive places to live aside from NYC, is nothing to boast about honey...most guys up that way pay 1000 and don't expect a damn thing extra.

If I charge 600 in New Orleans and guys pay that, I would not be bragging about your 500 in a place like Los Angeles.  How many guys a week does a woman at 500 in LA have to fk to make the rent I wonder? Here, it would be 2 at most,  and that is for a lake house around 3000 sq. ft.

-- Modified on 11/16/2012 3:46:47 PM

there are 5 in this very thread who can attest to the fact of just how good they have it with me. Most of my regulars are on a monthly or weekly salary type deal, vs. paying per date, so the clock is never an issue. I just spent 2 wonderful evenings with a favorite this week, and no envelope was ever dropped. He pays my bills when I need them paid vs. paying me by the hour. Most of my gents locally do the very same thing. We don't really have a hooker/hobbyist type relationship like one would expect.

How much does the average escort charge for a dinner date? 1000? 1200? I charge 7, and my 2 hour rate is only 100 less than that. That should suggest I WANT longer dates because I charge very little for them. I charge a lot for sex...damn right, but the extras are something I can provide because my business model has allowed me to do so. I am NOT an assembly line hooker and anyone suggesting that is a complete moron. I am on TER over 20 hours a week lol.  What harm will it do to have dinner off the clock when I am touring? None at all. I am alone in a strange city, and who wants to eat alone?

-- Modified on 11/16/2012 2:34:37 PM

when you only paid for 1hr has demonstrated that she is a "street hooker"? And she doesn’t understand her own business---all she wants is an assembly line?

OK…lol…Do you routinely charge for an hour of work and then offer the second hour for free because that’s just GREAT customer service?

Damn. Will please explain that concept to my massage therapist? Every flipping time I go in for an hour massage, she gives me a massage for an hour. Talk about an assembly line.

My hair stylist is being pretty stupid too. I've been seeing her for years and she really should know better. I recently scheduled an apt just for a haircut. But, when I got there I asked her if she could touch-up some color while I was there. She said she actually did have the time before her next apt, and would be happy to.

But then she charged me for it!!! WTF?

Obviously some people have no clue about customer service.
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own kids out lol.

So FIDCUOF if I get what you are saying is that if I have a client in my office for an hour appointment and we discuss the matter at hand and then he/she starts talking about life for another hour I am not suppose to charge for that? Sorry the client knows I charge by the hour and expects to be billed and if they bitch about the invoice well then they had no respect for my time. Why is this different with a woman you are seeing? You know full well going in the rates they charge and if you don't get to hang out with her after it is horrible customer service? No sorry you are a horrible customer with no respect for their time.

You state that if they kick you out after the hour then they are "an assembly line". You do realize that a lot of the women on TER have lives outside of this business. They have other lines of work, work from home, have family to tend to and the such. So by you going over the allotted time you are taking away from them. If the woman wants to stay and chat afterwards it's her choice and not to be expected.

It just illustrates why I won't see guys that identify as hobbyists. I know that all hobbyists are not like that as I have seen the posts in this thread, however that attitude is way more pervasive than we think.

I am going for a massage later today and I will try that tactic on my massage therapist and actually say to her, "if you let me hang out for another hour chatting or let's just go over with the massage another 15 minutes uncharged for of course, I will repeat and tell other people about you", and see what she says.

It seems like some men who hobby have decided that this is the only place they can push these limits and get away with it...why? Because the ladies have allowed this bullshit. And why do they allow this bullshit...because hobbyists will nail them in a review as a clock watcher. Thanks guys, you have done an awesome job.

Yeah, right.   Just read the reviews.  Wouldn't surprise me if many are 25% made up (if not more).  Doubt most guys have the discipline to keep a good thing (ie. extra time) to themselves.  Most guys have a special gene that pretty much obligates them to brag.  Big dick.  Expensive house/car.  

What makes anyone think that most can keep something as simple as extra time to themselves?

Some of these fools. Unfortunately I get lumped in with these jackasses.

This is a choice I make, I'm not a bad looking guy, I'm not overweight and have no real problem finding dates if I wanted. My point is that for those ass clowns this is the only way they can get laid, and then think they can make such asinine demands. It tarnishes the entire hobby.

Fucking dipshits, ugh!

It is your respect for our time and what we do, that allows you to get such special treatment, not the other way around. Those who bitch and make demands will always be stuck with women desperate only for the money who will see them. Talk about a contradiction if I ever heard one lol.

Women who are NOT all about the money, don't need to cater to jackasses. They are afforded the luxury of being able to select their clients based on a number of things, and having the donation is not the only factor for saying yes.

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We have a time MINIMUM in case you don't know what that means.  I will spell it our for you since reading comprehension is not your forte. If a woman charges 300 and the guy decides to leave on his own before that time is up, she owes him nothing! Are you insane? HE chose to leave and let her keep the money because that is HER TIME MINIMUM! Now, if she kicks him out she owes him something unless he proved to be a nut job.

Oh, Clock watching! never mind.

Actually, a long time ago I set up a 1  hour appointment with a lady in DC.  I think we mutually enjoyed talking (and I asked to stay for an additional 30min or so as that was all the cash I had on me.  Well, we were well into the 90 min when the HOTEL phone rings!  WTF!  She was miffed, but answered... turns out its her boyfriend!  Again, WTF?  She starts telling him not to call her "at work!" and he should be patient and she says to him "I'll be there when I get there!"  As I was aware of my limited time remaining, I got up and started to dress.  She whips around and says "Where are you going!? Get back on the bed!"  I left there a few hours later!  

That was indeed, one of the hottest sessions I've ever had - hobby or not!

And I just read Ohcharlie's long and very true post above and it keeps on emphasizing my choice. Most, and there are a few exceptions, but reading this board for a week would convince even the most accepting women, that the majority of the men on here hate/disrespect/use and abuse the very women they want to see. And someone said that a women hater does not pay for sex...oh yes they do, and they resent the hell out of it but because testosterone is that powerful, they can't/won't say no or they have very few options for sex that they feel so entitle to.

To those actual gentlemen on  here, this is NOT directed at you. And I am sorry that so many assholes make it difficult for you. I know the ladies feel the very same way when there are women using fake pic and ripping off nice guys...it really sours everything for everyone. I am sure I might be missing out on a couple of great guys, however I am more concerned with what I might ned up alone with.

And Ohcharlie said it so well...we can tell a mile away.

the clock watching thing if you are working for an agent you have to be dressed in the hour as well not service up to an hour then get dressed, different when you work alone and can be more flexible but this is totally not possible when working for someone else.