My friend has had success in such arrangements and suggested a website to me... I had a look (and joined) and WOW what a turn off. The vast majority have detailed profiles about "looking for a guy to treat me right". If you analyze that, it's this idea of a demure and powerless individual looking for a powerful and directing individual - in extremely gendered and old-fashioned terms. I can't do it. I interacted with a few via email, and it was too weird for me.

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agree the vast amount of profiles seem to hint at a very old-fashioned stereotype. Like you hint at, it's like they want to go back to a society where men are viewed as the financial provider and they, in turn, take care of the man, and all that.

You're apparently so "intelligent and self-aware" that you need a separate dating website that fits your ilk. :-

While I have not used these services myself, I have seen friends, men and women, have wonderful success. Let's face it OKC, match and the like have tons of riffraff, and it's tons of work to sift through the aggregate and find the flecks of gold. A matchmaker does all of the sifting for you, and helps narrow you search significantly. Look for one who works only with professional level individuals, and you will probably find what you are looking for, at least in the civi population. PM me if you want a resource.

the ladies on there don't get the SD/SB dynamic.  They act as if THEY are calling the shots and SDs are just a bunch of pathetic old guys dying to support them for little in return.  It kills me when they say they want to spend their first date "shopping".  What these girls don't get is there are many many many many (did I say many?) more fine ass pussies out there than there are guys will REAL $$$ to spend.  If I had that kind of money where I could PAY a girl 5 grand a month it's not gonna be for a single mother of 3 with a full time job going to school at night.  So, in that scenario, where does my time come from?  I'm not suggesting even for a moment that these ladies should be disrespected but I think they aren't grounded in reality.

I do see what you mean although both parties know why they are on the site so that's kind of the point...

I need several things:

for me it is also too many blurred lines
i never had a long-term successful arrangement, but i some clients told how they dropped on sugar babies 3-5k a month for a couple of years and had a successful relationship. I never found that. My longest one lasted 2-3 months. I am emotional person and i get attached to people easily and for some guys it is just a business transaction. Being a provider works better for me. It is less time consuming and more money.

The OP was talking about a personality type. The girls on SA are not all traditional types looking for a daddy to give them a free ride. Some of them are studying to be brain surgeons. I admit they're not the majority.

i have posted this before
to be a successful sugar baby looks are not enough...you have to have good negotiation skills, you have to be have sob stories that will make your daddy feel better about giving you the money, you cannot just say i want 3k per month...you have to talk about sick family members, about tuition bill for university of phoenix etc

A lot of the girls are pretty delusional in their expectations.

It kind of seems like your casting your fishing rod in the wrong part of the lake, doesn't it?

When did two providers ever speak for the masses? If two gals didn't do DFK would you use that warped logic to conclude most of them don't?

Given your complaining in this very thread  of how many SB profiles display unrealistic expectations and girls wanting a 'free ride', I'd say Jack's two out of many is not looking too bad.

'll bet a thousand bucks donated to the charity of your choice that if you were to take a poll on this site with a larger pool, an overwhelming majority of providers do not do sugar dating BECAUSE THE PAY SUCKS COMPARED TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING. Not to mention all the time they have to put in to meeting douchebags over coffee.

Very nicely said

rofile 1:

You said I thought I was casting in the wrong side of the lake but then say if it works for me, blah blah blah.

It's not a non sequitur.

My argument is that you would probably do a lot better using some other means. What you are describing to me sounds a lot less like a SD/SB arrangement and more like "a bulk discount on sessions." Which works great for both parties I suppose if you're dealing with the $200/hour variety.

I don't see how I could possibly be doing any better with reference to the SB thing.

"A guy with real money has a lot of free options available to him. "  If he gets so much free pussy, why is he paying for it? The answer is easy if he sees providers -- he doesn't want the drama of dating or a GF -- but I think that's a lot less likely on a SB website.  

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There's really only two excuses for a moderately attractive wealthy man NOT to get pussy, even from those much younger.

Some guys are just so socially awkward that a woman has to virtually grab him by the dick before he gets the hint there is any interest.

Yes, that is mostly what I was implying GaG - that much of that "free" might really be from gold diggers -- so I don't really consider it free when it's got drama attached!

Most guys just skip right over those women with the $1,000 hr price tags, why is it so difficult for guys to simply skip right over the SB ads where the women are asking to be paid for a platonic relationship?

Sex is not really that hard to find, NSA sex is quite a different matter, and the free sex that "rich guys" seem to attract is hardly free, even if it comes without a price tag.

Of just a "bulk discount on sessions" with a provider?

All of it, SB, negotitating, discounts, whatevs are all "arrangements." Of one kind or another

1) You guys are right, I don't belong on a Sugar Daddy site. The hobby is great for me, and to me it is a professional service, like any other professional service.

i prefer smaller penises  

she is lol
but i told her about sa, he does not want to be on it
she knows what i do for living, she does not judge  

The fact that you attach so much importance to these two cliche-ridden SB profiles reveals more about you than either of these SBs.  

I wouldn't say the minority necessarily. However, with that being said, there's a big difference between being "consciously cheap" vs being "smart with your funds". No matter matter where you lie in the grand scheme of things, if that's all you focus on, it won't take you very far with anyone I'd think.  Just be you, don't overanalyze things and enjoy life.

Wow thank you.

Yea well I get royalty fees for my advice and coming to Jesus moments on here. Remember that mister and thank me later

Great post...only question I have is you said you filled out her long list of pre-verification questionairre.  Is this the real JackDunphy? (JK)  and (ok a second question) did you have her fill out yours?  

and you have just described me to a "t".  My ex used to tell me that before I met her I probably passed up more pussy than I realized.