All things being equal, I try to be the "perfect" client by coming to sessions, freshly bathed, teeth cleaned and breath fresh. I even freshen up after I get there and I leave the envelope in a conspicuous place. I am on my best manners. Your name and why you do this are unimportant to me because I am not the same "Captain Save A Ho" you put out a few hours ago. I may make a little small talk in between erections, but I listen more than talk and again, I don't ask you personal shit or even wonder out loud, why someone so gorgeous and intelligent as you is in this profession. I want you to have a nice time too, but it's not required. Since I am paying, you do your thing and I do mine. If it works out that we clicked on another level fine; sometimes that happens. Again, I know you get plenty of good cock so I don't let it go to my big head. I watch the clock if you don't because I do have a schedule. If I've come to see you during the day, you can bet I am headed to a meeting or some other engagement and I don't want to smell like I've been fucking. If I do not need a complete shower, I will take a bird bath and rinse orally.  I will say my goodbyes and if I really liked you, I will ask you if I can call on you again. If you say yes, I will do so, but on my timetable, not yours. Don't send me e-mail unless I ask and don't assume that I owe you anything but your requested fee. I am not a cold bastard, I am just unassuming as you should be to me. Don't tell me about your troubles, man problems, money problems and I won't bore you with the shit in my life (we all have some).  For me, this makes me the perfect client.  What say you?

I have a few clients like you and I enjoy them as much as I do the ones that do talk..The only question I hate to answer is "Is bridgette your real name"..

Every client is different, the same goes for every provider is different. Im sure, as providers, we are accomadating in the area of conversation. We take our lead from the client. Least I do, and I am sure I am not the only one.

I,myself, love sex, the art of it and everything that entales (seriously been making up for lack of it in another life) ..I don't fake anything, and I do my best to make sure you feel the same as me...I trully enjoy watching someone get to THAT point..

When it comes to what you like and don't like, isn't that the point of P4P?

Almost a perfect client

For a one and done, yes you are the perfect client.

If I were to see you on a somewhat regular basis, no you aren't quite perfect, but quite likely very enjoyable.

I actually do enjoy the relationships I build over time with some of my clients. Its not something that happens in an hour or even two hours though. I'm not talking deep emotional attatchments here, but I have been fortunate to develop some very wonderful friendships with some of the men I see. Perfection is when I can develop a rapport with someone, that allows us to talk about personal stuff, sports, politics, the weather, or whatever else crosses our minds, without blurring the lines between friendship and business. Not always easy, but its possible.

fucking session...after-all...this is what this is All about...A lot of Fun..A lot of Pleasure and A lot of Passion...You bring any of the other things into the equation...the Fantasy disappears...in my opinion..any provider who is going to talk about there personal problems (money, men etc.) should then deduct from the envelope...if You want to talk to me about Your problems...well..You are paying for my time...right

Yes...you're fabulous and set the standard we should all aspire to.
Happy now?

Thank you for your waste-of-bandwith self aggrandizing snoozefest. Gag!

And yes, it's an alias on purpose, just to annoy you. I figure if you don't have to review and be part of the process that makes this site work, then I don't have to let you know my 'real' fake name!

Now call me names and stew on it.

Jeez. Feed that ego much?

I do everything you do except I'm smarter and I bring a funny card along with the donation. I guess that makes me more perfecter?

Let's get together and make little alias babies!
Muah!!

Good points. I don't repeat that often, but I do I get your drift. It's a funny biz and I do have some long standing friends that I discuss all of the above.

Nobody is perfect, but we do have the "almost" perfect ones.

To me, is the cool, fun, laid back guy who walks in and don't "act" like is a paid service.

He will not talk about money or make a bit fuss while putting the envelope on the desk. Don't make me feel I am getting paid - don't kill the mood! The money exchange is smooth and just followed with eye contact between us.

He's easy on the eyes. Not in a rush, takes his time while undressing - mmmmmmm nothing turns me on more than watch a man get naked in a slow and sexy way!!!

He will be looking at me with a genuine smile during the introductory conversation while we talk about ourselves to get to know each other a bit. I want to find out that he's intelligent and can hold a fluid, light chitchat without any cockiness.

Oh!!! He will not lie about himself, telling tales I know is a fib. Lies turns me OFF instantly!

He will either be already freshly showered, shaved and smelling wonderful - or he is not worried about taking 10 minutes to use my bathroom to present himself to me the way it turns me on. Oh, is so sexy to see a man walking out of the bathroom, still wet, wearing a hard on and a towel wrapped around his waist!!!

He has a bright smile and great sense of humor and we can laugh, talk and smooch before, during and after a hot, steamy fucking.

He is up to have fun and enjoy his time with me and do not bring his laundry list of odd positions he wants to try. He's not worry how many cups he can get in a hour! Instead, he's more into how much PLEASURE we can give each other during the time we are together.

Some guys have IT, that natural sexiness women are attracted to. The girls reading this knows what I am talking about. We all have the clients we really want to keep seeing over and over because the way they are with us.

My favorite clients do not look like Brad Pitt (the old Brad, not the actual one), I don't require physical perfection from them.

They are fun and our chemistry is right! Our time together really feels like "is not a service" and it goes sooooo fast!

This is MY definition of the perfect client for me.

BDG

gotta have shaved jewels

This really is a business like no other. The best way I can describe it is to say that it is very intimately impersonal. A first encounter is perfection when it is as you describe it. Over time, it becomes less so. I love the first encounter's pure focus on just sex. Its just plain good sex.

But I also love the rapports I've built up. I learned to appreciate the ability to be both friend and lover a few years ago when by pure fluke I read about the passing of a good friend. He was a regular and we had some fantastic times together. The hard part was knowing that I couldn't go to his funeral, couldn't console his family or say my own goodbye to him. So I came here and posted about it, and cried about it.

Yeah, fucks for bucks is a funny business, like no other. That's why I love it.

...and for this reason, you would not be a good client for me, much less the perfect client. my whole niche in this "hobby" of sorts is fostering wildly unprofessional relationships with my clients. relationships where personal questions are asked and answered before we ever lay eyes on one another, where i want at least a glimpse of your soul before allowing you into my body. i want to sense your true, core needs both as a man and as  a complex breathing human being, and feed those. i want to feel like your life is just a bit sweeter, and the voids just a bit smaller, for having met me.

i welcome unsolicited emails and phone calls from old friends...and send out quite a few of my own. i welcome pics of the kids at the beach, or my opinion requested on whether or not you should go after that promotion. and i expect REAL answers when we chat on the phone and i ask, "how are you? have you been taking care of yourself? are you making sure not to overstress or overwork? is your cock in need?"

men who need and appreciate such a relationship with a woman are my idea of the "perfect client." but then i'm a known weirdo who takes this all way too seriously.

I like your honesty and you have many valid points...

My question to you is. Where is the human to human, sincere general interest and connection with the person you are about to be intimate with?

I agree I don't ever want to give you my real name. I wil never share with you the date of my last period etc.  but, I also don't want to be so mechanical that I really don't give a shit either..

if that is what you want their are many ladies that "no speak english" that will give you exactly what you are looking for

So, do tell..
Where is that fine line between sharing and telling to much...

I have had more then one
gentlman sit on my couch and pour their hearts out to me about their life. I don't mind at all..

I come over.... late at night, having just called and begging until you finally say, come on over... and babes, to keep them in suspense... I always short the envelop... sos to have them want me to come back to leave the rest....  Tip?? yea, I leave a tip... never trust the belhop to help you find the room... cause he will steer ya wrong every time... i know 'cause lordy - I tried.

Oh, and I love a good cigar - RIGHT after sex... and I always share it with the lady... along with my whisky... which I been drinking since 8 AM that day....

please keep the towels handy... nope - not for that shower but for a clean up - if I have a accident.    and can you keep a secret.... well, i've lots of em- to share ...   'bout the other gals... don't cha know.....

I just love to talk, and talk and talk... and you don't have to worry about me askin you 'bout cha business, I know how embarassing it is... or about your name... cause when you are outta the room, I goes through your pocketbook.... so I will know where you are when I want cha real bad.....


oh, I got lots more to say.......

heee heee....


shese dude....  a good client is one who shows up on time, is as he described himself, doesn't cause problems.... pays in silence.... and leaves when the time is up.  no more, no less, oh, and checks his ego at the door.

Mechanical? Not sure how you got that, but that's you opinion and I can live with it. Much of first meetings are on the provider. I just gave you a snapshot of how I operate and it works for me.

I'd say you are different and that doesn't surprise me. Your posts are not typical. But you are rare in that you want contact because I would say the majority don't. Glad it works for you.

Much of what you describe is left up to the mistress. If she is more talkative in a productive/seductive way, I can flow with that too. We are talking first sessions here, I am guessing. I just don't find that many that are willing so I have learned to subdue my expectations for the first time. In a way, it's a lot sexier being impersonal. If she's really in the mood to do the nasty, you can tell. If she's counting the minutes, you can tell that too. Not many really great actresses is my guess. All in all, I know what you are saying and it does really depend. I've been in sessions where the chemistry was smoking hot, even for the first time, so I know when to go with it.

Before I go to a meeting. The S.E.G. makes no need for a poker face and presenting an "I don't give a fuck" vibe most certainly can add to yer apparent negotiation collateral..a dialectic advantage for sure.

Seems to me  a lot of you guys are more hung up on what she does than she is?

Getting laid on deck has never been a prerequisite for a shower either.   My ass is always clean, I do that for me.

I will kiss my own mother with pussy on my lips..... Hell I popped outta hers, what's the difference if I had someone elses allover my face?

As far as casual comms goes, sure, why the fuck not? Seems to me that this is one of them male/female scenarios  where 'cause of the exchange of currency, the  guys use that as  lisence to be pricks to women. Fucking hang-ups like that speak more to the insecurit of the male involved than anything else.

I'm good friends with my shrink, my luthier, some of the chef's at my favorite restaurant's, etc....

All started as pro relationships that have evolved into better and more with respect all around for everyone.

Why is it with dudes when pu$$y is involved some weird fucked up irrational  man code shit comes out?

I know, because most dudes are prissy little bitch drama queens.

Unecessary bid deals abound...

Bitches have no gender.

You do live up to your alias that's for sure. It's because I Iack the typical ego that goes with most of the trolls on this board, I get plenty of pussy. I chose to $4P more out of convenience than necessity. What you describe in your last paragraph makes my case.

BSDude isn't an alias. Look at the envelope next to the name. DUH!

Is this "all about you" day?
As if your initial post wasn't bad enough, now you can't resist posting to almost every comment? Assuming everyone is an alias or "troll", as YOU define it?

We're all SO happy for you that you see yourself as the perfect client and get "plenty of pussy". You're a man's man. You are all that we mere mortals should aspire to.
Feel better now?

Dude. Lighten up!!
Step away from the keyboard and get back on your meds, or just go fuck something.

Sometimes its best to just stop a bad situation from getting worse by STFU. Even us mortals know that.

I'm aware that I am most assuredly NOT a good client for some providers. But because I know this, I put in the effort to see providers for whom I AM a good client while sparing others having to put up with me.

In other words, I find providers who I believe will be comfortable with my hobbying style. This increases the odds of a good time being mutual.

I aim to be a repeat client. But first visits are always for just one hour. That way, if things are not a match, the woman isn't stuck dealing with me for an extended period of time OR for subsequent sessions. (And, conversely, I am not stuck dealing with her, either.)

For an *initial* meeting, I'm a lot like you, Radcow -- though a lot less perfect. But for subsequent meetings things will shift to accomodate knowledge gained during the first.

So I think a major aspect of being a good client is selecting a provider who can work well with my style of hobbying.

Thank you. Fortunes have been made on a lot less. I can't wait to read your biz plan model.

-- Modified on 3/2/2010 10:37:45 AM

Noted. While not perfect in the perfect sense, perfect for those few moments. I've hobbied now for a fair number of years and I still learn shit, but what I've been able to surmise is that people want providers to be something they are not. I understand completely that a provider is not what she does; she typically is a well-rounded and has a lot going for herself. I find some more than interesting. I have also found that too many guys want shit they can't have and leave providers feeling put upon because many do it because they need the dough. I took my position for first time visits a few years ago and it really works. Call it disinterested/interested because I am not expecting her to be a robot and do my bidding. I just don't try to get involved with her life as was the point of the post.

and I mean ur post on the chicago board and here, you don't try to know any lady and she is only there for your pleasure.
radcow you have a demaning way of communicating with or about women.
this isn't even a phoney alias, it refers to my site!

Traci, I've met you before.  You are an illiterate person. Your posts make that pretty plain. I won't do business with you either and the girls on your site at least the ones worth seeing, well, we've done sessions behind your back.  So much for what "your women" think about you. You know nothing about anything really. I am surprised you make it all. BTW, your site is pretty shitty too and in need of a serious upgrade.

Why was this jackass post allowed?  The A-hole is just looking for adoration from the lonely no client providers.

LOL many things may be said about Radcow. Attempting to curry favor from providers is rarely one of them. Read his posting history. Sheesh.

Yep, My mommy used to read me this story at bedtime!

"The Toad Who Wanted to be a Prince"

I am just sitting back and watching this thread in disbelief. Silly me, I thought Rad started a nice conversation starter. How oh how did it all go so wrong?

Folks, can we uh, step back a bit and just start taking what we see posted here at face value? Alot of these replies are reading way way more into the original post than was actually there.

Sins, it goes with the turf. You see, most lurker/attackers don't have an opinion and they are further challenged because they cannot put three words together. Then you have certain people just wanting to troll post for their own kicks. What a country! What's funny is the attacks and side attacks about things no where in the post. Then again, I get why people have to make shit up. That's entertainment!

That would describe how I feel I act all the time as a client.

Then what happened is people started trying to play armchair psychoanalyst and magically divine WHY he bothered posting etc etc etc etc.

As far as I can tell, his post was fine. Now -- when people take a swing at him ... he swings back ... HARD. But, hey -- they shouldn't have swung at him to start with.

Got  nothing to say on your own. I know you're hurting. Let it out.

You'd have to be a real man to understand the Mangina in the OP.

He is absolutely the epitome of exactly what a Mangina stands for. Add to that his condescending manner, when anyone disagrees with his diatribes about nothing in particular. Then he proceeds to the insults and name calling to cap things off to his off-beat meaningless attempts at discussion.

This stupid ass post should have brought the real men out as it has. As if none of the rest of us real mean do not know or have a clue what a perfect client is. WTF, we are to believe that by following his lead, we get more and better pussy? I seriously question if the man has ever been laid at all what with not a single review to his name.

Real alias withheld by owner’s request.

I guess you like yours in your ass. Because you can't get enough.  

Keep it coming Circus Clown.

-- Modified on 3/2/2010 3:23:45 PM

Rad? A mangina??

Now I have to ask, how exactly do you define "real man"? You see yourself as one, and I admit, I am utterly befuzzled and bewuzzled at this point as to what makes the distinction. What do you see that is different about you that makes you a real man versus a so-called mangina?

No, this is not a tongue in cheek question. I genuinely want an honest response. Thanks.

Here is the long read answer.


Manginas - Betrayers Of Men

Manginas are pseudo-men who fixate their lives on getting a sniff of the female genitalia (figure of speech) at the expensive of others and by betraying real men.

Manginas see women as an ultimate being, places them on a huge pedestal, mind focuses only on sex or the satisfaction of women all the while not giving two bits a damn about his fellow man. Chivalrous and illogical are two definite traits of being a mangina.

A mangina is not a man, and we wouldn't dare honor them by gracing them with the title. A mangina is a pseudo-man who will first and foremost put women above men. This can take the form of buying into sexist stereotypes about men, trolling for pussy, or playing Captain Save-a-ho and reinforcing bad behavior from women.

A Mangina seeks continuous approval from females thereby becoming their servant.

Manginas support women's issues which are against his fellow men. Someone who espouses feminism but is really being suckered into a form of chivalry in which women's interests take precedence over men's. Unaware that they are merely "useful idiots", doing what women want in the vain/hope of getting laid. When his usefulness is over she tosses him out with the rest of the rubbish. Usually can be identified by his spouting the latest feminist clichés. A man who has been p-whipped but doesn't quite realize it. A man who thinks that women will like him if he does what women want (little knowing he is being used and will be dumped for the first alpha male/thug who shambles out of county lockup).

A Mangina is a self-depreciating man who subconsciously hates himself and blindly believes women are superior to him. He has been raised to think masculinity is inherently wrong - perhaps even a genetic/evolutionary/social flaw - and must be corrected by embracing his "feminine side" to the point of losing the very qualities that make him male. He believes women are beautiful, innocent angels and men are filthy animals who need to be controlled. His entire world-view is built on an absolute lie supported and propagated by a Feminised, Liberal culture and morally bankrupt Media. Ultimately his entire life is nothing more than a sad illusion....

He not only betrays himself, friends and family, but all men by sucking up to women in return for favors. A mangina is basically the proverbial Uncle Tom of the male populace. This is why manginas are betrayers and enemies of men.

Keep 'em coming Circus Boy.

Zero class. Limited intellect. Zero redeeming social value.
Attacks like that are the result of a limited mind, and low self worth.
If it wasn't for $$$ he'd never get laid.

How anyone supports this blight on society is beyond me, but perhaps they all deserve each other!
Considering those who agree with him, I think those of us on the other side are in pretty good company!!

I, for one, just LOVE to watch him spin out of control!! It's like a social experiment on the dim witted.

This guy is fucking funny as hell!   Could you possibly cower even lower behind the rock you crawled out from.  LMAO!

Keep posting dude, you are CLASSIC!

Ha! I concur.

Excellent!

Too many manly men are just covering up their fear of inadequacy. It gets old.

This makes you a big piece of S##T Radcow.
The fact that this industry is built on
trust, the fact that you met Tracy is all but
too clear that you attended one of those
parties at the same time she did. You have your nerve to stand in the same room with someone who insured your safety helped you connect with a working lady yet cannot be honest enough to pay her agency fee while SNEAKING behind the womans back and making  a deal with one of her girls. What a scum you are.What a scum. I hope you get blacklisted.

I hope she finds out who you are and puts your
sorry fanny right where it belongs . National blacklist and every part of the net. How disgraceful of any man to take advantage of an agency who secures his identity and keeps him safe where trust is the foundation . I hope you repay her since you  just admitted that not only are you ABUSIVE  but a CROOK to boot. And any moron who puts you on any invite is no better.

What a blackhearted soul you are.

the most totally, complete, well thought out description of a mangina I've ever seen!

It should be copied,placed on every TER board, and CicusMan should be hailed as it's author!
The only way that could have been more complete would be to have your pic next to it!

All there is to add is a pic of a mangina/female relationship!

RadGina, MattGina, TexGina, JohnGina, StanGina, and a host of other lesser manginas all use the same approach when confronted.  First attack,call names, then cry that they are being unfairly picked on.  If that doesn't work, continue on with post after post, making a thread 50-60 lines long, rewording the same tired argument as they cannot accept the fact that they may be wrong this time.
If all else fails, the "your argument has no validity, as it came from a cowardly alias"
This one is always my fav, as it shows that they have nothing left, and the thought of dealing with an alias drives them over the edge!
The manginas are a social experiment.  One that has failed miserably, but one that the original experimenters are powerless to stop>  Hopefully, as with other blights like polio, pertussis, and small pox, a vaccine will one day be produced, rid the planet of this plague, and we will see the end of the "nether-men".

Angela this guy is lying! he hasn't seen anyone behind my back, even though it may have been Dylan but it wasn't behind my back since she was passing her phone number out to all at party.
You should know Iwork with indies as well so he is just babbling cause he really knows I have hit it on the head with him.
I do believe he has 2 identities on here also.

I truly doubt we ever met butmy site is so bad why doso many asked who built it.
Maybe its not like CL where you come from?

he hates to have his covers pulled! lol

Of course he has to have 2 board ID's... he never submits reviews under this ID . Probably as he knows
women would fear him. Honestly his personality
really belongs on the redneck boards.Kinda suprised
THIS is a Chicago man .

I challenge you to show where I have initiated a name-calling attack against another poster.

I have responded to such, but not initiated.

And HERE I will respond: you have just lied about me while hiding behind an alias.