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Re: The King of Hypocrisy
Gus_n_MollyPugs 2 Reviews 62 reads
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Posted By: Steve_Trevor
Re: The King of Hypocrisy  
strikes again. lol  
   
   As for my “cred”… I couldn’t care less who thinks I have “cred” here, or not. If someone doesn’t think I have enough “cred”, they’re free to skip past my posts. I don’t make that many so it’s not hard to do.
Steve.....that's a question I have been asking myself ever since I arrived here at TER, after I received my first "Oh crap, your posts and writing is TOOO long, TOOOOO wordy......TOOOOOOO complex, etc etc etc)

Just continue doing what you are doing....

I have noticed something about certain Providers who list "overnight" dates as an option.....many of these Overnight services do not make much sense economically or intimately, from my standpoint as a client ......(granted, the actual EXACT numbers/pricing makes a huge difference from provider to provider, and the policy of each provider varies regarding things like exactly how much uninterrupted sleep the provider says she needs, etc.)

Case in point:

Consider Hypothetically A stunning high quality woman who advertises rates as follows:

2 Hours:   1500

4 hour Dinner date: 2500

5 Hours: 4200

6 Hours: 4800

**12 Hours Overnight: 6000

**The provider says she loves Overnights and these dates get priority, but she absolutely requires 7 (seven) hours of Uninterrupted SLEEP, non-negotiable.     Wtf?  does anyone see the problem with this situation.....

FIrst off, 12 - 7 = 5 hours total waking time to interact and be intimate with the provider....there's at least a 60-90 minute MEAL & Drinks somewhere in that 5 hours of waking time....so now you're essentially looking at 3-1/2 to 4 hours for 6000 bucks.....I do not understand this?    Plus, how does that work?  The woman goes to bed and you are required to not even touch her or talk to her for 7 hours....you essentially pay to watch her sleep & snore?    This seems kinda idiotic and even creepy....

 
But I have seen other providers who allow for overnights to be more open and spontaneous and fun, who say that they can accommodate men who don't want to sleep, etc.   Their rates are more logical and reasonable for such longer, high dollar commitments.....

To my mind, Overnight dates seem like they might be totally redundant and pointless, unless there is a existing, specific, special arrangement/relationship between the man and the female provider.....thoughts?

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RespectfulRobert81 reads

They don't make sense to me either, but many men are lonely and/or just want to sleep and wake up next to a hot woman and get breakfast together, as that experience may be missing from their life. I don't find the want to explore that need creepy at all. It is just another way, albeit not mine or your preferred way, of getting deeper intimacy than just a straight up 2 or 3 hour date will allow.  
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The one thing I would add is that for those that have never done one prior, and are contemplating such, is to meet with the women a few times first, or at least once, for a lengthy date before committing to an all nighter. Two very nice people getting together doesn't mean their personalities will mesh, so spending 12 hours with someone you don't get on with can be quite problematic.  
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Good post. You are a welcome addition here and consistently make me think so that is a good thing. Thanks for your time in writing it Gus!

You obviously are a person with both intelligence, and human qualities of the "heart"....I too enjoy your insight and the tone in which you express yourself!

And to everyone out there I have not already shared....my real first Name is not "Gus", it is RICK (Gus was simply the name of one of my two cherished Pug Dogs that died end of last year, and were the final impetus to prompt me to resume getting into the whole p4p dating scene, providers etc.....)

regarding the Sleep overs......yes, when I said "creepy" I was kinda referring to the concept of the provider sleeping uninterrupted for 7 hours, which would require you (the client) to sit quietly and watch her sleep/snore lol   just seems pretty weird.

I understand your points about loneliness and intimacy and waking up next to a woman, etc.  But not at the rates or the trouble & time that an overnight date entails.

I will pay to fuck you but I will not pay to watch you sleep.
I will pay for your meal but I will not also pay to watch you eat it.

Agreed on the sleep part.

Sometimes it is fun to grab a meal.  I will ask the lady in question to wear something tight which shows plenty of cleavage.

Fun to watch others at the restaurant catch a glimpse and wondering what is that old fart doing with that hot chick.

 I have only done it three times, but it is kind of fun.  

Once I was having dinner with a gorgeous blonde Czech. The guy at the table next to us could not keep his eyes off her despite the dowdy lady who was with him looking daggers at him. I bet he didn't get laid for a month.
Another time in LV I was with a group that included two gorgeous Montreal strippers and guys were literally walking into walls.

I don’t have a list of requirements, like most providers do. I love to enjoy my time! I have had some epic overnight dates. Every provider structures their worth on their own lifestyle factors. I thrive on longer dates, so I prefer overnights & vacations. I do many because I seek a true connection and enjoy building relationships.

I do understand what you mean, but I don’t waste my time wondering why another provider charges x amount. Everyone is different & we all have different needs. To each their own. Many providers have SO’s & that’s a factor. 🤔 I don’t compare, or compete. I stay in my own lane because there’s no traffic. lol Smile for me!

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Providers set fees based on what works for them, not you. Just because they say they require 7 hours of sleep, doesn’t mean they get the same sleep they would at home in their own bed. It’s an inconvenience. They say they love them because it’s good money. This isn’t them and their grade school friends having a sleepover they are excited about.

 
If you are so focused on the time you get to get physical with them, why would you why would you even consider an overnight? Why even consider a long enough date to have a meal with them? When it’s a longer date, you are paying for their time that includes normal things like eating and sleeping.

 
Personally, longer dates are not for me. But I understand why some do them. You do them to get closer. You do them to get more comfortable. You do them to break nerves. You do them to have more physical time, but this has to be within reason. This doesn’t me you get to ride them sleepless and hungry into the ground.

 
Keep in mind, if they do not get good sleep and they are wrecked, it spills into the next day. They may now not be at their best for another client or two. They may have to cancel that date and lose the money. I once had a provider ask me if we can reschedule because she had a bad night sleep and didn’t want to not be at her best for me. I can see an overnight where she didn’t get good sleep as doing this to her.

 
I’m not saying your point isn’t valid either. But it’s more valid for your needs than it is for her. It’s about seeing it from her point of view.

I used to do overnights but it was just for my regulars. I charged 1K for 12 (ish) hours. Dinner usually around 7 pm, playtime/movie/popcorn at my place, sleeping, and then I would make breakfast/coffee/playtime again before shipping off my gent. I did also require a full night sleep, but you were getting around 5 hours of awake time with me so if you booked just 5 hours during the day that is the same I would charge anyway.  
My thoughts are....well.....I have posted my thoughts on this topic before.  lol  
Every gal has the right to run her business and charge what she wants but once I see someone charging these rates you said in your OP and then begging on social media for money to pay your rent or cell phone bill all bets are off. You are no longer a business woman running a successful business. You are now a hot mess.  
Stay sane and stay safe.....
xoxo
Scarlet  

Well said. While I wouldn't pay the rates listed in the OP, for $1k I would certainly spend the night with you according to the scenario you outlined.

...I concur with holystone's post above.

Scarlett's response and scenario is obviously the most reasonable approach....equating the total "waking time"  during a sleepover scenario, with a corresponding equivalent amount of "awake & alert" hourly scenarios , etc.

Depending on if its Incall or Outcall, I would allow a modest amount of extra $$ in the sleepover scenario to simply account for whatever increased time and inconvenience the woman experiences waking up in a hotel/home that isn't hers, and having to make the efforts involved in keeping a date going after  "Rise & Shine" time....  but no way should a woman be charging as much if not MORE (per hour) for a sleepover that involves her being unavailable/untouchable for 6-7 hours ....  unless it's part of some overall humiliation/domination/submission scenario where the guy literally pays the woman for....nothing except the frustration she distributes!  (Yes this is a viable scenario and a niche market in the p4p provider Macro Economy.)

Personally, I only need about 5  hours MAX of sleep per night..... always have....I always wake up by 5am no matter what, so too bad to the paid companion sleeping next to moi...she's getting up too no matter what!

I've even seen women post that they require separate beds for an overnight.

OldCodger83 reads

I RARELY do overnights, but the one I spent with Miss Scarlet was one of the BEST EVER.  Play time, dinner and a play (theater), play time, sleep, play time, shower together, breakfast.  Still a VERY memorable experience, even though it has been many years ago.

If you did, why are you posting this with an alias instead of your username that you wrote the review under.  I call bullshit.  This is nothing but an anonymous shill.   Did she put you up to this?   If she is honest, she will call you out that she didn't see you.

Steve_Trevor77 reads

why you make posts as CDL about providers you’ve seen who aren’t K-Girls, which means if you’ve reviewed them, those reviews are under your alias (per what you’ve told us).

 
Given your post above, I think that’s a fair question.

asking me to out my own aliases when I have 400 published reviews under my username while you are using your alias to hide under a rock with no reviews showing?  A fairer question is how about you showing some reviews under ANY name you want in order to establish a little cred here that you are more than just a keyboard jockey pretending to be a real monger?  

 
I'll even tell you how to do it.  Post your username under your Steve alias so we can see your reviews, then change your Steve Trevor alias to something else and put your future reviews under THAT alias.  Meanwhile, you can post here under your username, stop hiding, and feel like a man.  How about?  You got a pair?  

Steve_Trevor62 reads

strikes again. lol

 
I didn’t ask you to out your own alias. Reread the question I asked. It was pointing out your hypocrisy of complaining about someone else for posting about a provider with an alias instead of his username that he wrote the review under. I asked why you make posts as CDL about providers you’ve seen who aren’t K-Girls… which means if you’ve reviewed them, those reviews are under your alias (per what you’ve told us). Another case of your own rules not applying to you.

 
No, you’re the one pushing to have someone out his handle with his alias. Which you seem to like to do. But I don’t suppose you’d like to take up your own challenge and post your alias under your CDL username so we can see all of your non-KGirl reviews? I didn’t think so… no pair there, I guess. lol

 
As for my “cred”… I couldn’t care less who thinks I have “cred” here, or not. If someone doesn’t think I have enough “cred”, they’re free to skip past my posts. I don’t make that many so it’s not hard to do.

 
As for being a “real monger”… I’m on the Reviewers Only board, meaning I do have a number of reviews. Your obsession with how many reviews I have and which providers I’ve seen is really weird. You have no need to know whom I’ve reviewed. I do share my review history when I post under my username and when a provider asks for my username (or looks it up via my email). I don’t try to hide my reviews from providers as you do (so much for “stop hiding, and feel Iike a man’, eh?). If they don’t like my reviews, we shouldn’t get together.

comeback ever.  It's a walk-back, a deflection and a lame excuse all rolled into one.  A trifecta of weakness.   Do you see the difference in me having 400 reviews and you have NONE as far as this board is concerned?  If you don't get it, ask Rocket, he's a binary thinker, too.  

 
Do you see the irony in you asking me to post my alias(es) so you can see SOME of my reviews when you will not post your username so we can see SOME of your reviews?  Pretty rich, Stevie.  Did I also mention "weak?"   Yes, I believe I did.  Lol

Steve_Trevor56 reads

You might want to get some help with that.

you start something with me, and when you end of getting bitch-slapped, you just can't stop looking weaker and weaker.  

 
BTW, you still living with your wife who can't stand to have sex with you?   If you would ditch her, you wouldn't need to be using an alias.  Oh wait, that's right, SHE'S the breadwinner in the family.  My mistake.  Carry on.  Lol

Steve_Trevor59 reads

But then, trolls are.

 
Troll away with your total B.S. It helps remind everyone what kind of person you really are.

Gus has come to your rescue.  Between the two of you, maybe you can find ONE review somewhere.   Lol

 
Youi just get weaker.  You say I'm the troll, but I have 400 reviews and you have none.   You should at least pretend you know something about this biz.    You dodged my question about your marriage, so I assume you are same whipped pussy you are at home.  No woman wants to have sex with someone that is as weak as you.  Got balls?  Lol

 
You're on your heels now, so I bet you are regretting making the personal attack on me our of blue, am I right?  This is what happens when you bring a low IQ to an intellectual fight.  Think twice next time.  Lol

 
Now, since my 400 reviews are not enough in your estimation, how about showing us 10 of yours, if you even have that many.  

FlaNoName79 reads

What does it mean to be a troll?
: to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content. … trolls engage in the most outrageous and offensive behaviors possible—all the better to troll you with.

What is the literal meaning of troll?
The English noun "troll" in the standard sense of ugly dwarf or giant dates to 1610 and originates from the Old Norse word "troll" meaning giant or demon.  

You just can't see the forest through the trees.  Both shoes fit but you are so comfortable in them you fail to recognize it.  Other than you, who anointed you the king of all knowledge?  So what that you have 400 reviews?  You have no idea how many women these men you disparage have seen and it doesn't matter.  Everyone has their own experiences including you.  That doesn't mean your experience is better than theirs or makes you right in all matters.  As the definition states, it is irrelevant.

You sir, are a troll in the biggest sense, with your narcissistic superiority and always having to have the last word.  

Tell me about it.  Once this guy has a hard-on for you (and I do mean that literally) it's like trying to get rid of a stalker.

Posted By: Steve_Trevor
Re: The King of Hypocrisy  
strikes again. lol  
   
   As for my “cred”… I couldn’t care less who thinks I have “cred” here, or not. If someone doesn’t think I have enough “cred”, they’re free to skip past my posts. I don’t make that many so it’s not hard to do.
Steve.....that's a question I have been asking myself ever since I arrived here at TER, after I received my first "Oh crap, your posts and writing is TOOO long, TOOOOO wordy......TOOOOOOO complex, etc etc etc)

Just continue doing what you are doing....

Jesus Christ dude, you are unhinged. Get. Help. Now.

I'm not sure why you have such a tough time coming to grips with the fact that Scarlet is a terrific woman and has a loyal client base for very good reasons. I'm very glad I got to spend a few hours with her when she made a rare trip outside of her usual spots.

a positive post like this because she knows who you are.  Since you asked a question, I will tell you that I have PM'd with some of her listed reviewers who were forthcoming about her changing up her menu once you get there and excluding services that are in her reviews and on her TER profile.  If you got everything you wanted, then you are one of the lucky outliers.  I haven't run into any yet who repeated with her, which is usually the sign of a good session.  Did you repeat?   How many of her clients did to ask about her "loyal client base" or is this just something she told you pursuant to Marketing 101, section 344, . . . . . . "Make it seem hard to get, but easy to buy."  Lol

I did not repeat - she visited my location for a few days. I wouldn't travel 1000 miles to see her - or anyone else for that matter. It's not logistically possible for me.

I should have said in my post that regardless of the fact that I have not seen her again, I absolutely would and have every intention of doing so if and when she returns to my geographical area.

Hey friend!

I completely forgot to message you to thank you for reaching out to some of the gents that did a review of me. I actually lost touch with one who still had my old email address. He is going to be in town the end of Aug and we are going to reconnect years later! How funny that he said he was wondering if I was still a provider and then got a message from you asking about me. You really are top notch when it comes to helping out providers with their business. Thank you for all you do!!  

xoxo
Scarlet

420Smoka4Eva81 reads

I guess there are two points to address:

 
On provider pricing... This concept has been talked to death in many forms. In general providers set the rates they want and our choice is to either accept them or move on. Sometimes they don't make sense, like a 6 hour date costing more than three 2 hour dates. All I can say is they set their rates to incentivize the kind of booking they want. They might find longer dates or overnights to be a bit more challenging and adjust their rate accordingly. They may like longer dates and offer discounts for extra hours. Either way, either book a girl or move on.

 
On overnights... I have done them a few different times and for me it was always worth it. I only did it with providers I had amazing chemistry with. Save it for your favorites. Some guys like to drink and do drugs with providers and overnights are best for that. Usually the provider isn't getting 7 hours of uninterrupted sleep in these scenarios, even if their ad says they require it. There have been a few times I basically got a free upgrade to an overnight just for bringing over a bottle of wine and a J. A fair amount of providers love cocaine too, but I stay away from the nose candy. When you aren't partying, there are still benefits. It is fun to meet up at the hotel bar, fuck in the hotel room, go to dinner, fuck again a few times, fall asleep, wake up, get room service and fuck again. There is no rush. If Junior isn't co-operating you can take a break and try again later. There is no clock watching. Usually things get a lot more kinkier. You have chances to talk, someone to go to dinner with.

 
It is one of those things that is only really worth it if you have great chemistry with the provider and they enjoy your company. If a provider doesn't like you a long date is going to be draining for them. Save it for the all timers. If you're one of their better clients, they will enjoy themselves more and you will to. It depends what you bring into the situation as well. The overnight dates usually require a bit more effort, planning and execution from the client. Many providers have issues with dating for their work, so overnights can fulfill a need they might not be getting from their regular life. If you're going this route it helps to treat it like a normal date and bring that effort/energy into it. It helps to show up well dressed, pick the restaurant and take the lead with some aspects in planning.

 
At the end of the day, it is a quality thing not quantity thing. You are booking more time but you're not necessarily having more sex and getting more orgasms/nuts. What you are doing is focusing more on the companionship side. You're giving more time and energy into building a connection, being vulnerable and developing intimacy that you end up with much better sex.

I see alot analytical data being thrown out and that 7 hour sleep nonsense is just running the clock...anyways sleep is overrated... but here's the deal
I've done quite a few overnights while in Vegas. I've only planned a few dates that were of the overnight dates but I knew the young lady going in. She didn't bleed the wallet dry and she's usually driving from the OC to hang out with me....cause I'm a fun guy...lol.
But most overnights have kinda turned into spontaneous dates that just kept on going.Usually started as a two hour meet, and we're having a great time that the next thing I know I'm calling room service for breakfast at 10am. Of course we'll slip in a 2 hour nap at 5am or so. After all I am a gentleman.
But in all, I would NEVER book a unknown lady, unknown to me for an overnight.
I get a kick out of the  "I love overnights" parts in their menu...sure you do $$$$$

2 in one month to Las Vegas people I never met & we got along famously.  Maybe because they book a month in advance and we build a connection via email 📧 prior to playtime. Proper planning is the key, and going in with a great attitude for the win. 🏆

fortunate, nor fortuitous.   Fortunate means lucky.  Fortuitous means it happens by chance, which means you can get run over by a truck fortuitously.  A planned session with a provider advertising sex is not something happening by chance.  Joining the mile-high club is often fortuitous and unanticipated.  This is a common error, so standing alone, it doesn't necessarily mean you are a moron.  

 
It sounds like you are telling the potential customers here that if they book an overnight a month in advance, they are entitled to be a timewaster for the entire month leading up to the session with endless emails trying to "build a connection."  The reality show, "Catfishing" is often about "connections" built on emails, and they don't usually end well.  

Fortuitous DOES mean by chance but also carries the implication that it was a lucky or fortunate chance. So, no, you cannot "get run over by a truck fortuitously." Unless, perhaps, the truck driver WANTED to run you over for some reason.
If this continues to happen, Conan will revoke your "Junior Conan" badge.

But there seems to be plenty of authorities that support my interpretation, but at the same time, I'm sure there are outliers that support Conan on this one.    

 
Fortuitous does not mean “fortunate” and fortuitously does not mean “by happy chance,” but an increasing number of speakers and writers seem to be unaware of this.
— James Cochrane, Between You and I, 2004

Fortuitous does not mean fortunate, It means accidental, happening by chance.
— Paula LaRocque, Championship Writing, 2004

Fortuitous means happening by chance. It does not mean fortunate.
— The New York Times Manual of Style and Usage, 2015

But Conan has chosen the definition He prefers. Conan rules. Conan is always right. Do NOT dispute him or he will crush you.
Conan orders you to read this book.

420Smoka4Eva72 reads

I think we should go by two judges, Merriam-Webster and Oxford English Dictionary. These are the closest things we have to an authoritative source. Merriam-Webster is the first American English dictionary, since this is a US based site we should defer to that first. Merriam-Webster says it is 1) occuring by chance and 2) a) fortunate, lucky b) coming by lucky chance. Also, there is a etymological description that says definition 2 has been in common usage for 70 years despite some criticism. A few critics don't override Merriam-Webster. Based on that, I am deeming CDL the loser of this internet argument. CDL can appeal based on the OED. If there is conflict with OED, I would accept that both are right because OED is the original authoritative English dictionary. Unfortunately OED is behind a paywall so I cannot see it and was forced to use M-W. CDL, if you can produce the full text of the OED we can see with the paywall that supports your argument, I will deem this internet fight a TIE. When I mean the full text, I mean the FULL OED text with ALL the definitions PLUS the etymology. Preferably the college library version, where volume 1 is all words from A-AA and volume 2 is AB-AC etc... and volume 300 is ZX-ZZ.

As a veteran of many overnights - I completely agree with your assessment.  It can work, but there is a lot less risk with providers you have seen before and have good chemistry with - which is 95% of my experiences.  However, the one time I did it with someone I hadn't met, it worked amazingly - we biked across the Golden Gate, rode the ferry back, and had an all-around good time in San Francisco.  But....she had a long, positive TER history, a professional website, our interests aligned, and well in advance we were communicating and working out the details.  If the stars align - there can be some nice memories to be had.    

Show me some reviews, because I don't get to overnight with first timers. Had to meet her at least a few times.

Rafl79 reads

I’ve never done an overnight on purpose with someone new. It’s happened on accident a few times. If there’s a connection things get worked out to where both parties are satisfied.  I’ve done vacations with established ladies. It’s all about the connection.  It usually happens with the ones who don’t advertise it.

waking up with her lips on your dick?  That’s worth a lot to me. I get you, that from a purely transactional perspective, it doesn’t make sense. If you’re into relationship-based interactions, it’s very intimate and vulnerable to actually sleep together. To each their own.  

Sleeping with a beautiful woman while she's naked next to you?  Knowing you just got laid and will again when you wake up.  If so, this is for you.  If not, then it isn't.  I prefer overnights for relationships.  Although I fantasize about a sexcation with a girl or two.  But I get to wake them up if I want it in the middle of the night

which I will get to last.  You have broken down the proposition and identified all of the "red flags", i.e., the propensity to involve "hooker math" in creating the rate table, and the fact that overnights can include a little TOO MUCH intimacy, which kind of destroys the fantasy you're seeking to buy in the first place, etc.  

 
You came to the right conclusion at the end, and it "seems" like overnights are redundant and pointless because they are.  

 
Your description of a "stunning high quality woman" incorporates two different perspectives.  Stunning can only measure physical appearance, and most mongers would agree on DDG women being stunning, even if they own preference varies somewhat. However, "high quality" as far as providers go cannot be measured until AFTER you have seen someone, and it seems like you are making an assumption about her skills and performance without having seen her.  This makes your hypothetical somewhat confusing.

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Yes we all need to sleep, but for a provider to state in her ad she needs 6-8 hrs of uninterrupted sleep for an overnight, I would look elsewhere.  I mean.. who the hell sleeps that long other than children?  To me that translates to “I intend to extract as much money as I can with as little effort as possible”.  I only book an overnight if I either know her or catch the appropriate vibe and only if I have an activity or trip that I want company for so I don’t have to pay attention to the clock.  If we go to dinner and a show and are having a good time, an overnight booking is preferable to booking 4-6 hrs, bc I’d like to enjoy my time with her outside the room but also know I can fuck her a handful of times without having to worry I’m running out of time.  Outside of the need for company for a specific event, I’’d rather sleep alone and know I’m not going to embarrass myself with my snoring or by blowing up the bathroom the next morning lol.  I will say some providers are insightful enough to price their longer dates at a lower hourly rate knowing most of the time will be social and  not sexual.

Posted By: Dr901
Re: The whole sleep thing is a turnoff..
Yes we all need to sleep, but for a provider to state in her ad she needs 6-8 hrs of uninterrupted sleep for an overnight, I would look elsewhere.  I mean.. who the hell sleeps that long other than children?  
Normal people maybe?  

We are companions and overnights just make sense to me!

Now it does depend how a girl does them to me it should be fun and spontaneous dinner and a event planned or dinner and drinks and music at home, somethign that shows it's a celebration!

I loveeee extended dates and overnights with men who know how to treat a lady ^_^

wrps0785 reads

If you think the rate is reasonable got for it.  The most I have paid for a over night was 1200 to 1500 (that was back in 2003). I have paid as low as 500 (2013) provider game a discount because I helped out in a financial situation.  

My expectations for overnight. 3 rounds before going to sleep, 1 at 3 am and another when we wake up at 7 am.   This is a 12 hour for 8 pm to 8 am.   Provider must do GFE.  

That being said I stopped doing them because I am not paying to sleep.  I have gotten older, in my low 60s now.  

My point in posing this hypothetical discussion, originally, was to focus on the controversial aspect of this provider's  pricing and requirements for a 12+hour sleepover.

SLEEP REQUIREMENTS are not the issue.....if someone really and truly has such critical sleep requirements that are going to impact his/her health then they need to rethink the whole wisdom of doing a sleepover / overnight session.   (and yes....in an otherwise healthy person, missing a few hours sleep for one night is not going to send their health into a tailspin.)

Of course, as everyone has pointed out, individual preference and needs and tastes dictate whether or not a overnight encounter works best for them with a provider.  (i.e. a widower who really, truly needs to wake up next to a live woman for sentimental reasons as well as sex, etc.)    But it's just an extreme, as well as expensive way to fill that void for a single solitary night....once it's over, the void remains, even more so because now you're freshly reminded of what you are missing!

For me personally, as far as THIS hypothetical provider (who is based on a real life provider recently active here), I would opt for her 5-6 hour dinner session instead of the 12+ hour sleepover.   I am not interested in maximum sex, I am interested in maximum overall experience (sex plus convo plus activity etc.)    If she's sleeping for 7+ hours, none of that is happening and I could care less if she wakes me up with her mouth on my penis....

I can sleep when you're gone or WE can sleep when we are both worn the fk out 🤣🥰

....Toni, you nailed it!   This to me is the ideal, final, perfect answer to the whole sleep over issue....because this is how it is in  real life with you real girlfriend if you have one.....using a typical Saturday Night "date Night" as the scenario......

you come home from dinner at your favorite restaurant, start fucking and going at it around 9pm, and this continues through 11pm.....11:30 pm......12 am....and then maybe, maybe starts to slow down around midnite, and you two slowly doze off/drift in and out of sleep.  You may both crash out at midnite....OR, she may be crashing at midnite, but suddenly I see her lick her lips as she is getting ready to sip her last glass of wine for the night, and my boner reawakens at the sight of that, and another hour of sexual mayhem ensues....then at 1:15 am, I am about to pass  out when she suddenly allows my bald head to rest firmly against her pubic bone area and then THAT re-starts her engine and we have another hour of "Romp-Romp-Romp-er Room" etc....you see where this is going right??

 
Toni = Sexual Wisdom...and the kind of fun they don't even write on X-rated Fortune Cookies

it all comes down to preference. Overnights are obv not a bargain and the hourly rate structure might not add up. But for many providers I’d imagine they want to limit the amount of overnight requests anyway, and at a premium price point it’s going to be worth it for them and they’ll get the volume of requests they desire.

I personally don’t do them for similar reasons, I just can’t justify it. There’s also very few providers I’d want to spend that amount of time with. In the end it’s business.

I had one gal I used to do overnights with but she only charged me for the 1-2 hour rate. In that special instance I became familiar with overnights and enjoyed them.

Costa Rica Overnights 300.00. No 7 hour sleep rules. PURA VIDA

different reasons why they structure their rates the way they do. I have mine structured in a way that money is saved significantly when you book longer dates. This is because I enjoy spending more time and am extremely low volume. My overnights are actually 24 hrs. I do offer a 12 hour date but I don't consider that an overnight. For me that would be an all day excursion with activities and time in between and before and after at my incall or your hotel.

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