I recently stumbled into a situation I've never been in before.  Through a friend of a friend, I met a young lovely in RL who's 100% my type.  After banging it out the first time, she surprised me by offering herself up as a Sugar Baby.   $400 for four hrs of her time.  Her place or mine.  Other time periods to be negotiated.    

She's great in bed and fun to hang out with but I'm still a little puzzled by the situation.  Ofcourse all situations are different but I'm curious as to what other's have paid in the past. It is also important to note that my sense is that she's not a local provider but might have had some light experience elsewhere in the past.  Instead, she's just a genuine girl who's little down on her luck which is pretty common these days.  

Thinking ahead I would assume if I were to follow through with this arrangement, I would start out as 50% talk / 50% fun and later on 25% talk / 75% fun... with our actual time being spent together being shorter.  To that end... $400 seems a little steep to me... but maybe I'm just looking a gift horse in the mouth here.  Thoughts?

Unless you are in Thailand or Costa Rica.

Please be a good man & post her name & number here

for all of us to contact her.

$$$$ for four hours!!  What a freakin' deal!!

by the hagglers who want providers to cut rates?

We both are in Southern California and this girl is easily a 7.5 looks and 8.5 service.  Early 20's. Pay after.  I should probably make sure that multiple pops are included.  For all I know, she could turn me on with something hot the minute I walk in the door, we go at it and then it's 3 hours of me watching her watch Oprah!

I would think she's easily be a $300-500/hr girl if she wanted to be a provider.  The curiosity is in what others have paid.  And are their usually discounts for longer duration visits or multiple visits in a month?  With a regular provider, it seems that overnight or weekend play can get expense!  

The only thing I found remotely close as a reference guide is the following dubious link:

I've done it three times in past through Sugar Daddy sites.

I paid $ 2,000 per month for two weekends per month rather than hourly.  Typically they are monthly arrangements rather than hourly.

But nevertheless... they are whatever you both agree to.  

Caveat.... most sugardaddy arrangements are tested bareback... at least all the ones I did.  If you are doing occasional hourly... you can bet she's seeing others and might want to stay protected.

Bottom line... if you prefer hour at a time for 250 - 350 ... the common provider rates.. then stay with providers.  If you like longer times together, then Sugar Daddy can be good.  

Best way to approach it I have found is to find out what her monetary goal is and try to meet it and get as much time for that amount as you can.

Sugar Daddy arrangements do have many more risks than seeing providers.  I have had one psycho, and one who was seeing multiple SD's unprotected, and one who was constantly in need of more money.  You are also more likely to run in to one that has no qualms about outting you if upset than you would with a provider who has her reputation at stake.

But when you find one that's good.... it's good!

Sugar Daddy my ass!  She just sounds like a low cost provider to me.  But if that is the case, $ an hour is one hell of a deal.  Go for it, and watch the time factor.

a girlfriend here.

Remember the old adage:

If it's too good to be true, it isn't.

Best of luck with it and report back to us.

Interesting points.  What sugar daddy sites are you these your talking about? $400 for 4hrs does seems good as long as it's not a quickie and the rest of the time watching her watch Oprah.  I would thing protected is assumed. Yeah the stalker thing is an issue but it's like that with GFs too, eh?

$2000 for two weekend overall seems like a good deal too.  That's for full days... figuring 15hr days of her being "attentive / on call".

She knows whats shes doing.
Questions

1. Do you know her were abouts Throug out the day?

2. Are you the only man in her life?

3. Does she pick up the phone when ever you call her?

4. how does she make ends meet- does she have a side Job?

Simple questions. That will give you some good answers.
To me- seems as if shes a smart business woman.

Good Luck!

P.S
people will try to take advantage if you let them. Shame on them.

I agree that the sugar daddy type of arrangement has a lot of room for movement, and its not clear cut and black and white as provider-client relationships are. That said, some men and women enjoy this grey area while some like having a concrete agreement on time and hours and expectations during that time. You may need to talk to the lady again to make sure you both are on the same page.
--Sitara Devi

With the right man or men!I get to spend a luxurious evening or afternoon with someone I like (or I wouldn't offer it) pretty regularly...totally works for me. The comfort level makes up for the rate cut.

Simone

70% - Girls who just want to be eye candy princesses & little to no sex for the guy.
(For the fair allowance of $10,000 a month of course.)

20% - Girls considering escorting but still too nervous to jump in.

10% - Pros

200 girls a day join these days my friend said (who is on them every morning for the past 5 years)...Only 1 out of 20 goes through with any actual meeting, after about a billion emails...
Most of the men just talk talk talk a bunch of game then make you go dutch on a glass of water.

Be glad you found your girly, its rough out there.

It sounds like this line of questioning is more in line with whether she's a pro... an interesting subtopic.  If she is and gets popped, I think it would be obvious that I don't want to be made to look like another Charlie Sheen.  To that end, she's already said that we won't ever meet each others friends.  I also don't want to catch anything so regular testing and safe sex would be a must... maybe BBBJ at best.

As far as your questions:

1) She moved here from the East coast a while back (still has out of state plates) on her crappy car and goes to school during the day and also has an internship. Initially we suggested we try and meet up nights... presumably so I could spend additional money on her ... but now she's asking about my availability during the day.  A concern?

2) As far as I know.  It seems like she's a hard working career-minded gal who if some great guy comes along for either of us, we'll deal with it.  Either of us can break it off if we want.  She has a delicate living situation so she's go a lot to lose if I start blabbing.  Incidently, she brought up points similar to the poster that talked about the problems with marriage on principle.

3) So far I've only called her once.  Lots of texting back and forth though.

4) That's a good point.  Maybe I forgot but I seem to remember just her talking about school and her internship.

2)

Amen texcat

1.  NEVER use the word DISCOUNT and expect to be seen period ...and if you do  thats exactly what you're gonna get  a DISCOUNTED version of the original service
2.  Play BEFORE you pay?   WTF?????
who the hell gets to do that?

Probably not a scam. I have the same arrangement but for less money. Just a young lady having a hard time meeting her bills. It has actually turned out to be a pretty good thing.

a nice pebble before they play.

glad to hear you have a good deal that works

for both of you.

call me paranoid..... but the incessant calls for DISCOUNT has tapered off recently. here we have an alias poster talking about a highly unusual deal.

just has me wondering. have the discount guys finally wised up that hectoring ladies to drop their rates won't work? and are they switching tactics to try a little psych warfare to get the pros to discount?

idle speculation to be sure..... hope he and you have got a good arrangement that the ladies are happy with and that the original post isn't blowing smole.

apologies in advance if i've offended. sometimes i like to check the less sweet possibilities and i get in trouble that way..... peace.

I'm not sure we can mention other sites on TER posts.

Do a search for sugar daddy and you'll come up with sites.  I had the best luck with one that had seeking arrangement in it's name.  There are two sites with sugar daddy or daddie on the name.

Hope that helps

They can be wonderful for both parties.  Just be certain neither gets the short end of the stick in their eyes or you'll end up with a less than gratifying feeling.

A true SD arrangement usually means she's seeing you and only you.  The more rules you lay out beforehand the better as I'd already mentioned, but felt it was probably worth honorable mention as well.

She sounds like she knows what she's doing so let her take the lead and don't be shy if anything strikes you as one sided.  Later on, it will nag you and ruin the relationship.  Kind of sounds like a marriage doesn't it

And NO, this does not mean you get BBFS

LOL.  I don't think I want BBFS!  There's this thing called pregnancy and who the hell knows if this girl really is a provider.  The thrill of the mystery.  

What kind of $$ did you pay in the past?  Flat monthly? Hourly?

Be very careful.

Men get emotionally attached faster than women when good sex is involved.  For this reason, I would not enter an SD relationship.  For men, it's easier to be a friendly gentleman and keep our emotional sanity with providers than it is with sugar babies especially when the baby makes the man feel like a knight in shining armor.