I don't think I would go back the almost 2 years, as so much can change with a girl in that time frame  but 1 year maybe? I would suspend the 3 month rule for a few months, say 4/1/20 as a cut off and then go back to the old rule. Good post.

I think it's a GREAT idea. lol

There are many ladies who expect references to be recent. So having only having old reviews it’s not likely they will try to contact them, many of which are no longer active and profiles inaccurate. While it might comfort they guys to have more reviews to see there details I seldom trusted review accuracy unless posted by well known and established reviewer.

No real downside and it would add more reviews to the database! Count me in!

as it is important to find out how a gal is now, not in the past.

Definitely expand the time-line beyond 90 days for the short term.  I think a year is a bit too long to be honest. In this world a lot can change. I would say visits from June 1, 2019 and forward are ok for the time being until otherwise noted.

I don’t think providers personality change much in few years.   I do want to know if you had bad date with her .  

In theory, I like the idea.  I really do.  
 Unfortunately, people can be idiots.    

The main thing is TER (and we) need as many reasonably current reviews as possible to make up for the fact that more than 1.5 million of them are at least two years old.

But 6 months? No, I really don't think that would be a big issue at all and it would only last for a few months anyway, then we would go back to the old rule.  

If they have reviews posted during the time they were shut down out of the US, I wonder if that would look bad.

I had so many wonderful dates during TER shut down and I would love to have those dates reviewed!

I am sure TER has a method to their madness to preserve the site integrity and reputation that many hobbyists have come to depend on, but yeah, if they don't relax the 3 month rule, they (I mean all of us mongers and providers) will miss out on tons of  vital info.  

We were not able to post them since April 2018

Agree!

I think 6 months is fair.  Some my reviews went to another site which I would not mention here.  But a year may have issues when the provider did changes, i.e. changed stage name, home state or simply retired.

I think as long as having a current ad link rule still applies,  its a win-win for everyone, including the ladies.  Without an ad link that's still good, old reviews are useless.  I could probably add quite a few, but they may not currently be in the location where I saw them, but I don't think that matters.

I think extending the cutoff to 6 months until March or April is a good idea. I wouldn't go back any further or make it a permanent change. There are 3 or 4 additional reviews that I could do.

Wish we could poll this.  

Would post some to get some longtime friends visibility.
Also would add “now active” add links for many .

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What about the ladies who have retired or moved?
Old reviews just cause undue  problems for the providers.  
And nobody needs them unless your ego wants to show off, or you want to spank to them.  
If reviews are wanted, they should be current only.  

As long as the lady's website link is valid, we should take this opportunity to repopulate the review database by catching up on what happened for the last year or so.  Not that much usually changes about a lady over a year, but if it does, the reader should be able to get current information from her website.  I know to check current rates listed, not those shown in the review because that does indeed change.

usable reviews will bring old and new members to TER quicker, so the more that we can get up in a short period of time, the better for increasing TER memberships and usage and the short run.   A 6-month to a year clawback period is a good window to allow additional reviews within the next 90 days.

“10. Each review should recount a visit that took place within the last three months in order to be timely. A lot can change with a provider - even in this relatively short amount of time.”

TER required valid link in order to approve review .  

Polling is a good idea as long as it's a provider poll.

Thank you! My exact point on the other board. It's all about memories. That's exactly why I vented on the Las Vegas board. And, TER, who's word will you then take if there is a dispute? That exact issue just came up with me, but the only reason the review was removed was because it was almost 2 years old. If I did not have that going for me I am sure TER would have sided with the client (like they usually do) and the review would still be there. There is no reason at all to go back beyond 3 months. Personally, I think one month would be more accurate!  
I personally know I can't remember some guys from a couple months ago. So you guys who see lots of providers, I doubt your memory is all that accurate. I even have guys who have forgotten they saw me and contacted me as if the first time (I know, I must me forgettable...lol).  
So now add free membership to the mix and TER is just asking for trouble.  
Don't rush things. Everyone will survive.

But in my feeble defense this was back in the days that not only did I drink, a LOT, I was also seeing four or five different chicas a day on some of my drunken fuckfests and some of it would be kind of a blur only a few hours later.  

Change from "...allow for less juicy details" to "require less juicy details" and you might be onto something

Oh yeah! How do you know this.  So, who is notifying the ladies who have retired in the last 2 years ,and thought TER and their reviews were gone? They are up now! Yeah, I can just see the arsehats that want 15 days VIP trolling for retired providers to write fake reviews that won't be questioned. This is a bigger mess for more people than a lot of you even consider.  
I have notified a couple that I still have contact with, but the others now have reviews and info on the site without their knowledge and that could be extremely dangerous  to them or their families.

First of all, TER actually WAS up and running over the past two years, just not accessible to US readers and a few new reviews actually DID go up. Those facts are documentable so I doubt there's any additional exposure.

I like you, but your new anti-TER stance makes me wonder what the fuck you are doing back here in the first place?

Human memory is selective.  I can remember small details about almost all of the 54 providers I saw in 2019, but don't as me what I had for breakfast last Wednesday.  Lol

I would be willing to bet that you remember paying all 54 gals more $ than they required. Am I correct or are you in need of a Ginko Biloba booster? lol

ALREADY priced below the local indie market to begin with, so rather than try to grind them down by 21%, I just start at 40% off and pay what they ask.  

I TRY and grind them down by at least 35%, but my post Sesta/Fosta numbers has caused my numbers to slip to 21%.

I don't think I would submit any reviews, even new ones, without the VIP credit.

of the Asian providers we get in LA are DDG gorgeous.  Ask most girls from Korea where its about 25 degrees right now where in the US they would like to work, and most will say either SoCal, or Bay Area, but with the homeless problems in the bay area lately, more and more are moving South.  

Please tell

DDG = Drop-Dead-Gorgeous

How ironic! Trouble is, I agree with you. Still, I'm glad to see Mick back so cut him some slack.

Being concerned for the people this could be hurting is not being anti ter.
It's being a friend.  
And your claim that retired providers wouldn't have reviews up is false. They are up now, without their knowledge.  

But in reality it is "must" because reviews submitted with a date farther back than 3 months are rejected currently.

I look for Oklahoma review and all over 3 years old and don't know any of them.

I actually like the fact that I can look at my old reviews .. I like having memories written down.. I think TER should keep all the review that the girl received.

Of course they have to know their reviews are back up but that's life. Doesn't everyone know by now that "the Internet is forever?"
Sorry if someone else has already pointed this out. I'm not going to read the whole damn thread to check.

And of course I, along with others have pointed this out.  Not to mention that if a provider has truly retired than she should have taken down her web site and her ads making it impossible for anyone to review her again in the first place.

Never did think it was ok for anyone to be forced to have a listing or review without their consent.
Being in business is not consent. And saying it is, is full of shit.

Actually, consent is more applied here than in other service reviews (restaurants, plumbers, car repair, etc.)

The hooker business and TER in particular are rather unique in the fact that a "business owner" can choose to be delisted anytime they want to, even if the reason is that they are getting BAD reviews.

So, I'm incorrect that if a provider delists and has a website, a new review given to TER, without her knowledge or permission, ter will make a new page for her ?  

If she "delists" NOBODY can write a review on her, active website or no. TER rules are quite clear in that regard

Micktoz, if a provider delists, that is makes it official with TER, then any review submitted after the delisting will be rejected by TER. TER keeps up with that stuff.

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"If she "delists" NOBODY can write a review on her, active website or no. TER rules are quite clear in that regard"
That is not true. TER answered to me, that they won't stop someone from writing a review if they have a website.  
I don't think that if you continue to keep typing your answer, it will make it true.  

You both can repeat it over and over again. It still won't make it true.  

My comment was based on seeing discussion threads and even some of my own posts removed. The reason given was a provider in question was delisted. I recall in the past mongers posting about going through the process of filling out info to do a review only to have it rejected because the provider was delisted. Not banned but delisted.

Court, think about it.  Not that you would accept the reviews in and of themselves during a verification process but it does give someone who could be a potential appointment legitimacy as a hobbyist in these times.  That would be one person who you could begin to identify as a legitimate hobbyist. Now you just need current references.

If you look back though the discussion boards over the past 20 months, you will see that there were still US members posting from overseas VPN locations during the entire time.  Likewise, international reviews were still visible for those of us that had posted them before the blackout.  I was able to add two more for London ladies in August 2018 as were other US members who posted offshore reviews during the blackout period in the US.  

I bet they were banned and not delisted.  And what i meant by the comment about legal businesses was that Gag said they get reviews, but this is not the same. This is an illegal pursuit in the US and we have greater responsibility to protect the providers and clients. We might be a community, but TER is a business.  Forcing information without consent  by a business is wrong. Just because so many didn't give a shit prior to now, does not make it right.

That the nerds that wrote this definition have no idea what a hot girl is in person, but they buy whacking lotion by the case to watch porn.  Lol

Then they issue is do “we” want older review? I think what we all want is a robust platform back.  The more content the better.

There are more ripoffs than Los Angeles area homeless bums right now. A longer review window would just be abused.

There is a reason for the three month limit on when you saw the lady.  It keeps things fresh which is the whole point of the rule.  TER made a decision to stop US access and the rush to repopulate the review inventory is not really a valid reason to abandon the rule.   Doing so just opens the door for fake reviews, outdated information and general confusion.

where the provider profile has a drop down question for teeth:  yes or no.

I think there is some merit to a temporary increase but honestly think more than 6 months probably a bad idea. It will likely have low quality reviews -- who fucking remember that far back for what is often a one time meeting. Second, verifying that the review is not pure fake would be impossible.

that have been in the game for 15-20 years, absent complete burnout, I don't think much changes between now and six months ago for these ladies.  I agree you MAY have a point with girls that were brand new six months ago and just entering the trade.  There can be a huge difference in performance between a girl just starting out and how she performs after a year in the biz.  I'm not sure how best to address that, but perhaps limit the 6-month clawback only to gals who had previous reviews on TER before the blackout.  

I'll repeat something I posted previously. Allow but quarantine reviews from the gap period (18 months, max, but maybe less). If credible INDEPENDENT reviews submitted about more recent meetings (15 months; 12 months; ... 3 months) are consistent and corroborative, then post all of them.
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If there are discrepancies, that could be a sign that services have changed. It doesn't help a Provider to have a review posted about OLD policies and practices as that could create false hopes and expectations for others. Likewise for a more recent meeting (12 months) review that might still need more recent corroboration.

Simple solutions are often the best.  

period of more than the current max of 72 hours, a lot of guys like me wouldn't waste their time writing them.  The review will not be allowed if the link is not current.  A lot of girls tour, so if I write a review and it sits for a few months waiting for a corroborative current review, as you suggest, and link expires because the girl leaves my city, then I wasted my time writing it unless I spend MORE time trying to track her down as to where she is working at the time TER tells me my review is not approved because the link is no good. Quarantine will create more problems than it solves, IMO.

Jesus, can Imp gum up the works or what? No one is better at taking something fairly simple and making it SO fucking complex.

The old policy for first time reviewers of a new Provider was to quarantine posting the review until a more well established reviewer submitted a corroborating review. The first time reviewer quarantine was not limited to 72 hours. (And I've had my own reviews take more than 72 hours to go up, not because of quarantining but because TER sometimes is slow to review the submitted reviews.)
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Someone else already suggested it, but the easiest thing is just to set the maximum time to post a review and shrink it month by month until we're back to 90 days (3 months).  
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Here is one possible schedule. Reviews submitted:
in Dec 2019, meeting must have been in Dec 2018 or later (12 month window).
in Jan 2020, meeting must have been in Feb 2019 or later (11 month window).
in Feb 2020, meeting must have been in April 2019 or later (10 month window).
in March 2020, meeting must have in June 2019 or later (9 month window).
Etc. ... but that drags it out too long.
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Reviews submitted:
In Dec 2019, meeting must have been in Dec 2018 or later (12 month max).
In Jan 2020,  meeting must have been in May 2019 or later (9 month max).  
In Feb 2020, ... 6 months max.
In March 2020, ... 3 months max, back to the old status quo.

The links become stale for touring girls after an extended period of time.  You didn't address how you would propose to overcome that obstacle.  I have had a few cases (which is not a lot given my volume of reviews) where it was held up more than 72 hours for whatever reason, and then disapproved because the link was no longer active.  I had to try to find out by research where she had gone so I could get edit the new link into my review.  In both cases, I had wished at the time that I didn't write the review.  (I spend about an hour on each review, but I know a lot of guys just throw up short, generic reviews that could apply to any one of 100,000 girls, and they end up being next to useless guys looking for a GFE experience and more than just a warm place to park their dick for a few minutes, but its not a big time investment for a reviewer who writes worthless reviews.)

A longer review window would give more time to report ripoffs as well as provide free advertising for the ladies. Actually I think you will agree that the memory of a bad experience will last longer than the memory of an average or good time with a provider as those tend to run together after a while.

During the down time, without reviews, I used PM to talk to a relative small group of local mongers about rip-offs as well as who is good, but that was only about 15 guys who kept their VIP during the blackout.  It would be nice to have intel from guys I DON'T KNOW as well.  As you say, not only the positive experiences, but the negative ones, too.

The problem is that the serious rip offs change their name and pictures too often for a six month period to work. By rip-off I meant getting guys to write more fake and or embellished reviews. The longer the window period, the easier it is to do.

If a ROB has changed her name or web presence since the review has seen her, he won't be able to write the review in the first place as TER requires a "valid" internet presence before approving the review. Problem solved.

I take it you don't know that one prolific TER poster once had multiple names, web pages, pictures etc. She was not the only one.  It is easy to do. Having reviews under different names does not cure the problem. A six month period makes it easier.