I'm just curious about this.  I was reading this subject on another board forum.  A number of ladies from around the country posted their dislike for such activity and most were being pressured by gentleman to engage in it.  Only a very small handful of women actually said they do have anal intercourse, but of the few who did post they said they only do so with an SO. (of these women who posted they also admitted that the activity is somewhat painful or uncomfortable and takes a great deal of time to get used to).  It was stated in some of the posts that comments from various gentleman said it "felt like a young girls pussy, or that it reminded them of a virgin".  

After having read this stuff I was some what appalled at the sheer ignorance of the male posts.   Vaginal size has nothing to do with being a virgin or not.  There are also many negative health issues related to this practice.  In addition I will never understand how anyone could enjoy causing someone pain or discomfort during sexual play.  If a woman does not offer it, or is uncomfortable with such activity it would only lead me to think that trying to pressure her into it would result in a not so GFE experience.  I would love to hear from others (ladies and gents alike) on their opinion of this practice and if you feel that it is best not to ask or insist on such activity if a lady is not so inclined.

I will only ask a provider for greek if it is list on TER profile, reviews, or as a service on her site. Greek is always ymmv. I never pay extra for greek. If there is no chemistry between me and the provider to do greek I move on the next provider. I love it when a provider asks me to put my dick in her ass. Talk about a turnon, nothing like providers who are into greek.

. . . the ladies shouldn't let the pressure get to them. Just say "no" and mean it.

My regular provide, who I have a lot of respect for in for attitude, does not offer a lot of items in her menu. If a client put down the envelope and asked for services that was not on the menu, she would ask him to take the gift back or he would be disappointed. She doesn't really care about reviews in general and one or two bad ones would not hurt her. She has great reviews.

real turn on for many guys. I won't pay extra for it either, and just use the good old TER VIP for providers that speak Greek with no premium. Most European women, and many South Americans love Greek, and take it with a smile. It tends to be U.S. providers with hang ups about it. Most of my sessions include BBBJCIM, CG or RCG, and many include Greek. Try "Greek RCG" for a real treat guys. I've never pressured a provider for Greek that doesn't provide it on the menu. Notebook:
Ladies that provide Greek tend to get better TER scores. Food for thought.

Well I looked up some info on the subject.  Also chatted online with a couple of friends this morning.  One thing is clear is that you shouldn't practice this technique without being fully informed.  

"Anal sex can be a perfectly safe activity as long as you take the necessary precautions. You should remember that your anus and rectum do not have their own natural lubrication nor the kind of elasticity the mouth and vagina enjoy. That is why anal sex must be practiced with care. There are three things that should always be used whenever anal penetration is taking place; lubrication, condoms and common sense. Liberal amounts of lubrication are necessary because the rectal wall can be quite sticky and is subject to tearing and lesions if not kept lubricated. (Our favorite is Astroglide) In addition, the anus and rectum are narrow, so lubrication is needed to press inside smoothly. Condoms are another necessity. Enemas, douches and other cleaners will not be able to get all the germs and bacteria out of the rectum. Not only is anal sex facilitate the transmission of STDs better than any other form of sex, it can also cause urinary tract infections and other bacterial diseases. Latex protection is essential, and can offer additional slickness. Finally, use your common sense. The rectal wall curves and is thin so long, hard objects can tear your insides. Don't wear any jewelry on your hands, and cut your fingernails if you are going to put your finger in someone's anus. Most importantly, respect your body. Don't push the limits and go only as far as you feel comfortable".  http://www.sexhealth.org/bettersex/anal.shtml

I honestly think that it is not so much a "gross out or taboo factor", as much as it is a "pain" factor.  I also think that because certain STD's and various infection and inflammation of the anal area, would leave one to think twice on it.  However I do understand there are many men and women who have learned to master the technique and find it a very enjoyable experience.  I think if someone is not into it, or has fear or trepidation I would not try to push the person into doing it.  (and by the way, if you haven't guessed its not my thing)!  LOL   However it's a non issue with my SO.

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BBrain,

I have to agree with you.  I have never seen too many ladies impacted either way if they did or did not offer Greek.  

I do have to respond to Freak for Greeks post though as he stated ladies that offer it on the men u get a better response on TER.  I really have to disagree with this statement.  There are some very fine ladies who have wonderful skills that will far surpass any Greek on the menu!

It really feels good to be able to nut in the ass. Then when you take the bag out the provider has the look of satisfaction to see the bag full.

It's something I really enjoy with a lady (especially if she gets really into it), and I've spent the time and energy to learn what the hell I'm actually doing and how to do it safely.  I'd never pressure someone into doing it, and if we started and it really just wasn't working for her, I'd certainly be willing to stop.

I'll certainly ask about it if there's some way to do so, but I'll also take the first "No, I don't do that" as a final answer.  It does affect the ladies I choose to see, although it's not an absolute dealbreaker for me, either.  I don't take an absence of any mention of it on a lady's site as proof positive that she won't do it, although it can be an indicator, depending on what the local standards are like -- if no other ladies in the area describe any of their services besides the amorphous "GFE" or some other flowery euphemism, then it doesn't surprise me to not see any mention on a lady's site of her opinion on Greek.

If I have a specific experience in mind that I'd like to have, I'm going to shop around for a provider that can accommodate me.  That isn't meant to denigrate the experience that some other provider might be able to offer me, but that just isn't what I'm looking for at that point in time.  As a provider, you've got a right to set whatever limits you feel are appropriate.  As a client, I've got a right to see someone else if I don't agree to your limits.  This applies with Greek, BBBJ, assorted fetishes, group scenes, clothing or costumes, or whatever.

you have a better chance of getting higher scores if  Greek is on the menu.

I see...

Is that the same for ladies who NQNS or CIM??  

I wonder just how many men like it done from the ladies??  GRIN

All those who like it anally with Dildos, strap ons ect... raise your hands.. oops I mean Post!  LOL

Kat, you should be lauded for your stance on this issue and I wish all providers would heed your message about being educated on the subject. I don't ask for greek for a number of reasons, though I have tried it in a civvie connection. She was not that experienced either and I think she's given it up to because her e-mails don't include too much about her sexcapades these days...I think it's for people who know what they are doing and know the long-term risks... Medically speaking, there are a few problems that you never read about first-person accounts of the damage it can cause on TER, but they are real... Ladies, don't be cajoled into greek without first getting an education.

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Most guys don't want a laundry list of rules at a session.

If it is not on the menu then it should be left alone. I love to spank bottoms but forego that unless it is expressly offered as a mutually enjoyed act. I think that if one is forced then it would certainly diminish the GFE experience. I have had occasion that a play rape was what we both were into and that involved forced anal, however this was set up in advance and both knew what to expect. Communication will lead to more relaxed and satisfied interaction between Hobbist and SP. If you want something just ask if the answer is no and it is a deal breaker move on.

I do know of many providers whose scores are 8,9, and 10's who do not offer Greek. Remember, like any other act, it's ONLY an option, in which a provider can take, If she is comfortable enough to take it.  

Personally, I don't find Greek appealing at all, and nor would I compromise my virtues/safety/comfort zone just to get a high score. It all comes down to how I feel about a certain act, and would I enjoy this act, during a session? If something does not feel good to me, then I won't not perform it, no matter how much pressure/money was given to me.

To each their own.

Count me in. Done right (e.g. slow at first with lots of lube)it feels pretty good, especially if I can position myself so it rubs on my prostate. It also provides a good lesson in how to do it right for the lady when I'm on top. It ought to be a prerequisite to doing her that she gets to stick up your rear a dildo of equal proportion to what you propose to stick in her rear.

the Lady is in charge of the session insofar as what goes on where her health and safety are concerned.  For different women, that will mean different things.  No guy has the right to push her beyond her boudaries.  

Of course, different hobbyist are looking for different services.  That's what the reviews are for.  Just find someone who suits your tastes.

When I schedule a vacation this weighs heavily in my choice of travel guides. If my partner is not as fond of Baklava as I the world does offer a host of other beautiful venues to visit and enjoy. However; my largess has a limit and no matter how comely or highly recommended my guide; certain premiums will not be paid unless the City of Athens is included in the tour package.  

I love it when the provider is good at it.

who actually enjoys anal more than vaginal intercourse, so it goes without saying...

With the few other women I've been with who offer anal, it always seemed that they were not enjoying it, so I figured, Why bother?  I much prefer to do thing that make my partner happy.

This is my absolute favorite thing to do to a guy.  When a guy asks for it, I go nuts!  I've had a handful of clients who are interested in it, and they love it.  I've also interested a few clients in it by my passion for the act and I've only had one discover that it was not for him.  Bend over boyfriend!!!

This info is from the Review FAQ:

"Ratings above 7 are reserved for providers who render services that are considered to be real perks (i.e. Anal, BBBJ, Kissing with Tongue)."

"In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider may only earn up to a 7, unless she also performs the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, Anal Sex, or More than One Guy. The addition of each offering will raise her score by one point. If your review doesn't already accurately reflect this rating system, we will adjust it."

I'll be glad to let you do me and then do you.

His post can be construed as pressure.  The
original post was about pressure to perform
greek, not TER performance scores.

... and stick to the facts.

Freak For Greek clearly stated that he has never pressured a provider for Greek.  He also correctly noted that ladies who provide greek (and other 'premium' services, as defined by TER) tend to get better review scores.  This is fact, not opinion.  Indeed, those 'premium' services are REQUIRED to get scores higher than a 7 in Performance.

I suggest that you read those posts again; this time more carefully.  Here are the complete texts of FFG's three posts on the subject:

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Posted by Freak For Greek, 2/20/2006 6:36:36 AM  
An ass is tighter than a pussy in 95% of cases. It is different, and a.....
real turn on for many guys. I won't pay extra for it either, and just use the good old TER VIP for providers that speak Greek with no premium. Most European women, and many South Americans love Greek, and take it with a smile. It tends to be U.S. providers with hang ups about it. Most of my sessions include BBBJCIM, CG or RCG, and many include Greek. Try "Greek RCG" for a real treat guys. I've never pressured a provider for Greek that doesn't provide it on the menu. Notebook:
Ladies that provide Greek tend to get better TER scores. Food for thought.
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Posted by Freak For Greek, 2/20/2006 7:22:20 AM  
I didn't say gals that don't provide Greek can't get good scores. I'm saying.........
you have a better chance of getting higher scores if  Greek is on the menu.
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Posted by Freak For Greek, 2/20/2006 7:30:32 AM  
Yes, ladies that provide CIM and NQNS tend to get better scores too!.......
Most guys don't want a laundry list of rules at a session.
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Rather than put a negative and accusatory spin on it, Mr. Info, you might have instead considered the following response:

"...   Sounds like he is trying to incent ladies with the bonus of high review scores. eom ..."


This is actually much closer to the truth.  But this takes some type of discernable social skills, of which you have repeatedly shown lacking.  There is no basis for construing his posts as pressure under threat of low reviews, as you falsly claim.   You are merely attempting to create drama where this is none.


Link to the TER Review FAQ is below.

And BTW, Mr. Info always make sense.

My butt is exit-only orifice.

Mr. Info only makes sense to himself!

Perhaps you are are the offspring of one of John Nash's many sexual escapades!

Sadly you were passed over by the genetic codes of his genius and only inherited the schizophrenia and his confused sexual identity..... And a double portion of both it would appear! (seek help!)

Quote from John Nash:
"I started to see crypto-communists everywhere ... I started to think I was a man of great religious importance, and to hear voices all the time. I began to hear something like telephone calls in my head, from people opposed to my ideas. ...The delirium was like a dream from which I seemed never to awake."


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I enjoy it, I can cum real hard having a guy in my ass when I'm playing with my clit.
I have this soft, skin like vibe that I use in my pussy...it drives guys wild when I combine the vibe with my "ass milking" techniques.
And, it's highly addictive for the GUYS!!!
My favorite anal guys books me all the time because they crave it, the same way I do.

Funny seeing this post here today.
Last night, when I was driving to the area I'm working the next few days, I kept getting text messages from three of my anal guys I have appointments this week.
It was freaking 3am and they were like "oh I'm hard just thinking about your ass", "baby, I'm throbbing for your ass!", "is your ass ready for my dick? that's what I want to do soon I see you, bend you over and slide right in, nice and slow".





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that is can be interpreted in so many ways.

BTW, here is the definition of nonsensical, since it seems to have escaped you:

non·sen·si·cal
adj.
1. lacking intelligible meaning
2. foolish; absurd
3. completely devoid of wisdom
[syn: absurd, cockeyed, derisory, idiotic, laughable, ludicrous, preposterous, ridiculous]

Which is the first step in any brandname destruction.

 Your "brandname" has become synonymous with:
crazy
demented
lunatic
maniac
mentally ill
nuts
screwy
unsound
absurd
harebrained
idiotic
imbecilic
moronic
nonsensical
preposterous
cockeyed

So,,, Good job on the "branding", since you are now generally recoganized as the TER village idiot!

WOW BDG, you've brought back memories.  Some women don't need to be "pressured" into anal sex, some simply love it!  Case in point, I had a GF in Austin, Tx a few years ago and she could only get off from being fucked in the ass while she used a vibe on her clit.  Once I found her rythm, she could sustain her climax for several minutes.  And as a matter of fact, the "kick start" vibe she used drove Johnson crazy as well, sometimes I'd pop twice in muinutes as I kept pounding her, she needed it hard.  The visual was mind blowing as well, watching her buck her ass, claw at the mattress and groan loudly.  ...  Thanks for thre memories,   Umm  where is her phone number???  Better yet Back Door Girl where are you today???

WetRider

I wouldn't consider it simply because I couldn't understand how a woman could find it enjoyable.  

It wasn't until a provider explained to me how women could enjoy it and how it felt to her ("like having your clit rubbed from underneath.")  She offered it on a YMMV basis, and told reviewers not to mention it.  I told her then I'd think about it, but never performed it with her.  Then there have been a few ladies here who express a lot of pleasure about it (Suzanne of San Diego, Back Door Girl to name a few).

I haven't performed it yet, but I'm open to it now.  The ladies I've seen since do not offer or enjoy it.  No, I would never pressure anyone into it.  However, if I visit a lady again who does enjoy it and expresses exuberance about it, I will try it.  I have since learned how sensitive and how chock full of nerves the anus really is. So there *could be* a lot of enjoyment for the woman.

I accept that it's rarely offered, though, for other reasons.  Practically all the ladies I have seen do not offer it, so I don't see ladies in general just to have it.

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You might not have run into ignorance, just terrible symantics on their part.  There a few words to express what they wanted to say.  That is, the tightness all around their cock is very enjoyable.

I did not have time to keep up with this thread the other day, but today just saw all the posts!  My what responses.  I guess some folks are pretty passionate about Greek.  I just don't see too many ladies responding though, mostly gentleman.  So I still wonder about the original question in this thread.  After all the other board where I found most of the comments related to is maily women.  But each to his own I guess.  Everybody likes something different.  I just don't think it is "cool" to pressure a lady or anyone for that matter into doing something they are not comfortable with or that might cause them pain or injury.  My 02.

Kisses,
Kat

A SPHINCTER may be tighter, but once you stretch that out and it relaxes (this happens very quickly) it's not really much tighter.  The rectum is very spacy.  I've had my share of anal and yes, it FEELS a little different but I won't say it's tighter, just different.  The reason so many people try it is more the taboo factor than anything else.

I thought Staff told you to ignore me.  Why not
listen to his sage advice.

No , pain during intercourse is a Stop sign
for me and others.  Yet ... if she feels a
little fullness, a little pressure, has
alittle trouble taking it deep into darkest
Africa, well... maybe that adds a little to the
key thing of Anal Fucking
  Which is: her body pinned under mine, tight
pleasure surrounding my manhoood , all my
weight on her as I gaze at her yielding ass
and gently play with her engorged
tit-nipples.
 It all comes together, and so do we.

It is a mutual thing, and use of a double dong is a major hit. You can do mish with your dick in her pussy, and still have the double dong in each others anus.