"Under the proposals, pornography would be banned, and tech and telecoms companies that allow access would be shut down." - BBC
Just one step away from shutting down the hobby??

All the hobby sites are outside of the US including this one.

So no, it wont be shut down. It will survive. It always does. But I wouldn't be too concerned about any of this. Many things in proposals are stripped out later. I would say they are more aspirations than actualities, and I don even think a majority of Republicans want porn to go away. Some very conservative states are another matter but I don't think any of this will stand even if passed for as right wing as this SCOTUS is, I would bet they would side on free speech. I hope. lol.

Remember there was a little thing a few years ago called SESTA/FOSTA that was supposed to shut down this game and even caused TER to suspend service in the US?
We survived that and we'll survive anything else that comes up.

Roe stood for 50 years until this SCOTUS struck it down the right.

And we’ll be back to using VPN…oh well it was good till it wasn’t.  
Why we can’t have nice things 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

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It's already illegal in most places, so that step has already been in place for quite some time and the hobby is still going strong. So what exact step are you suggesting? Increased policing? Shut down the few places where it is illegal? Not sure this would matter much, as those places would just operate like the rest of the country. I'm not a fan of most things Project 2025, but at best it's impact on the hobby would rely on a culture change which I do not see happening. We all know conservatives are in the hobby too.

Porn is obviously under the sex work umbrella but still different than escorting. Honestly if the porn industry was shut down I think there would be in *increase* in porn actresses moving into escorting, they have to pay their bills like everyone else. This is an election year so the ultra religious conservative nonsense is going to be tossed around, just like the ultra liberal left leaning nonsense as well.  
If anything we are going to have a few years to adjust like our community did after SESTA/FOSTA but once the dust clears it is back to business as usual.  
As always,  
Stay sane and stay safe

Don't you think even if this were true, if the Conservatives get control their "to do" list would put the hobby and/or pornography way way down on the list?

The current SCROTUM will be gone soon.  We'll see what happens then.

hope into one hand, and poop in the other, and see which one fills up faster.

edinathens,  
  Where do you get this crazy ass shit ?!!!

Sure, prostitution likely will survive; like drinking survived prohibition--at a high cost to all involved and driving it further underground.

Kamala Harris shut down Backpage, as I recall.  

TER never fully recovered from when we had 30K online users daily, now we barely scrap 3k.
Without getting into the whole political weeds of this , there's a movement that is hell bent on taking us back.
I can honestly say, that TER could be a causality in all of this.
This time, it could stick.

I started law school a couple of years after Roe was decided, and it was a topic heavily debated while I was in school and ever since.
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To be fair, Roe v. Wade was never universally accepted for 50 years as a legacy or landmark case like Marbury v. Madison or Brown v. Board of Education or many others. Rather, Roe was constantly under attack by legal scholars and in the courts from the moment it was decided, and its holding was whittled away piece by piece over time in decisional law at every level of the federal courts. The two major Supreme Court cases reconsidering Roe, Webster v. Reproductive Health Services (1989) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992) each left Roe’s central holding allowing abortion under certain limited circumstances intact, but strongly disagreed with the scope and reasoning of the original Roe decision and each lessened the scope of its abortion protections. For instance, in Webster Justice Byron White opined that the majority reasoning in Roe v. Wade was "warped." And in Casey Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, the first female Justice on the Supreme Court, agreed that the right to privacy logic underlying Roe was flawed and needed to be revised.  
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So, while some aspects of the Roe decision survived for 50 years, the original privacy-based Constitutional right was changed/diminished by Casey, and the Casey decision also opened the door to the challenges that led to Roe being completely reversed in Dobbs. Frankly, if one traces the history of Roe it’s not surprising that the Supreme Court eventually overruled the decision, only surprising that it took so long.
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To be clear, I’m not here to debate the choice/life issue. My only comment is that Roe has been gradually diminished since it was decided, and that no one should be surprised that it was eventually reversed.

The zeitgeist is turning against sex positivity. Look at age verification laws in places like Texas. Look at Amber Rose, the founder of the "Slut Walk" is now going full MAGA (like any of us should believe her lol). I kind of get it too. People just throw their sexuality all over the place and porn/sex is everywhere. Twitter, Instagram and Reddit are all saturated with sex workers so girls are starting to move to twitch, a platform for kids, to try and sell porn (which is kind of gross and exploitive).

anyone who doesnt think they can ban porn doesnt live in Texas .. already a number of sites are blocked there .. you have to register to see it ...  i.e. credit card or some other form of ID  

Pron is currently legal. Escorting, in the USA, is generally illegal. How does a government shut down illegal activities even if they pass another law.

Type "Project 2025" in your favorite search engine.

I'm sorry but I just couldn't help but picture a young Kevin Bacon in Animal House, screaming at the top of his lungs as the grand finale parade gets blown to bits by Delta House   "REMAIN CALM.....ALL IS WELL!!!!"

Escorting will be illegal everywhere, except Tysons Corner.

It reads like it was composed by someone's very young imagination running wild.

It’s a think tank wish list. Nothing more, nothing less. And its principles will never survive a Senate filibuster. Moreover, in light of the Supreme Court’s recent decision curtailing executive agency rulemaking authority it can’t be adopted administratively. It’s the bogeyman of this election cycle.

SESTA/FOSTA's priority was on eliminating human trafficking, particularly when underage victims were involved. While voluntary participants may have been caught up in the dragnet, they were not the priority.

Agreed. And while I don't want to go politics here, I think it's a bogeyman created (or rather, manufactured) for a specific reason.

on what "Project 2025" would plan to do.  
It's all beyond fucked up.

There’s a fucking forum for politics.

It's an official project of The Heritage Foundation created by former Trump appointees. From the people who gave you Judge Cannon and Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett. Trump himself praised it a couple of years ago. He's only running away from it now because it's gone over like a lead balloon.
Read on....