300 for an hour is too much as it is. What is this 500-600 rates? What could they possibly do to get such rates?

Minimized stretching..

I'm always kind of fascinated by the price posts.  Each provider is more than capable of setting their price points and either living or (business wise) dying with it.  The obvious answer is don't pay it if it's too high.  She doesn't want to see you anyway, because there is someone who will pay her what she thinks she's worth, and who the hell are you or anyone else to say she's not worth it before you even have a session with her.

I think that any hobbyist who thinks a provider is asking too much should set themselves up in a hotel room sometime, start blowing and taking it up the ass from any number of guys he just met for the first time, not knowing whether they're cops or psychos, and then decide how much money he would take to do it.

It's a business.  If someone won't pay the vig, then she'll lower her price.  If she doesn't lower the price, then that tells you something.

Each lady decides what she's worth for an hour of service. Let her.  The market will correct her or not.

Quite often it is far less than the $300 providers.

Often their pretentious pricing and arrogant ego is placated, promoted, and empowered by foolishly affluent gentlemen who by either a sophomoric infatuation or gender treason to protect their own pride will blather effusively in reviews, thus vindicating the diva's delusion and subsequent profiteering.  

$$$?  That's low end in NYC.  Unless CL is the name of your game...

Actually, for me, it's not even about what they are willing to pay either.  It's about what I feel comfortable working at.  Too often too many people try to control something they can't.  If you can't afford it/don't want to pay it, you don't.

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After bailing out Fannie & Freddie, maybe the Fed will sponsor a bill to help in this area too

But $300 is the going average rate in many parts of the country and it has been for quite a while. That being said, there are always going to be ladies who charge more and some who charge less. A lady sets her rates based on what she feels she is worth, not on what you or others are willing to pay. What makes a $500 an hour lady better than a $300 lady? Well, I couldn't begin to tell you since I have never paid that much for a one hour appointment.  

My advice is to hobby in the price range that you are comfortable in and not worry too much about the ladies that you won't be seeing for budgetary reasons.

Check out the parfume counter at a Neiman Marcus some day and then take a trip to the CVS fragance counter.

I don't doubt for a moment that a double blind test would reveal little difference between the $50/oz and the $500/oz products.

Same types of things exist in jewelery, fashion, air travel, etc.

Why should this business be any different?

and I meant every single word. Since you have such strong feelings why not just show all the ladies who you really are instead of using an alias?  I'm sure they will be attracted to your empathy, kindness, and honesty.

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I believe some ladies set their price points in an effort to have more control over the number and type of gentleman that contact them. A lower fee would attract more inquiries than a higher one would.  It’s one way to be a lower volume provider. The idea being that the higher the rate the lower the volume of both requests and dates. But a higher rate can at times mean a better quality experience. It’s just their business model. You always make the choice in the end.

C_K

Boy, you sure are proud of your vocabulary.

Dude, your post is naive & ill informed to say the least. Maybe in Smallville where you live the going rate is 3 & under,but in the major providing markets (NY, L.A. ,Chicago, Washington DC & Vegas ) the average is considerably higher;
in Vegas, 4 is the average for a hot provider;probably 5 in L.A.

There have been many times I've passed on what is known as "CEO Courtesans", becuase on their websites, the minimum is 1k ( & higher ). I don't whine or get angry when I see this; I merely move on. In a free market economy it's the law of supply & demand & if these ladies can fetch these high rates, more power to them.

If you still feel this is unfair,I'd advise you to buy rubber gloves, vaseline & kleenex from Walmart;sounds like your style.

No one else I've seen has set her rate quite that high, but I've never repeated with anyone but her.

She was worth it easily. I considered her a bargain at 350 and would schedule two hours at a time. Then she moved back to CA and retired...sigh.

Just because you think 300 is too much, doesn't mean everyone does. Personally, I think 10 bucks for a movie is too steep, but obviously many people are willing to pay that price. I get way more than 30 times the enjoyment from a (good) provider than from watching a movie, so 300 for a provider is a better deal for me than 10 for a movie.

everyone has their priorities.

Maybe some guys want ladies with no tatoos and superb fake boobs.  Some guys may want the lady to well educated.  Some guys may want a lady that looks like she could be in Playboy.

If there are guys willing to pay, why should you care what the ladies charge?

I will never own a Rolls Royce, but I don't spend any time wondering why it costs what it does.  I assume they know what they are doing and since they have been in business for over 100 years, they must.

JMTC

"You can't always get what you want"

Casey42, you get what you pay for, you want a $200 lady then thats what you get. If you want a better class of provider you have to save up for it, My wife and I have never paid less than $400 and no regrets........

First, I agree that any woman can charge whatever she wants.   She is free to do that, and I will never fault a woman for charging a higher amount.  If she is busy enough for her, then she is at the right price.

OTOH, higher prices does not equal classier women.   I have seen women at much less than 300, and I have seen women who charge more than 300.  The only relationship i have found between the women who charge less and the more expensive ones is the amount of money I paid.

In my experience, the higher priced ones are usually considered better looking by society, but are almost always more "business-like".  They are not classier, just perceived by some as classier.  I have seen women who charge big bucks running a special.  Does this special make them less classy?

All words are equal!  What are you, some sort of elitist?!?!

I'm in LA, rent is expensive!
I pay for my own apt. & an incall apt. Here are few things I have to have covered ...

Screening tools/websites
Ads
Photos
Supplies
Lingerie
Personal maintenance, hahaha, hair, mani/pedi, tanning, etc.
Bat phone

ok, ladies...what am I missing?
For touring girls, the list is endless!
My 2p

No doubt the higher expenses associated with the big market cities eat into margins, driving asking prices higher in those areas.....

My experience has shown a direct correlation to price and quality. The $500 date I had was by far more enjoyable than any other date. The conversation was better. The relaxed atmosphere. And yes, her skills were more intimate than I have found with lessor costs providers. Just my opinion. I will stay with my $500 lady

Having said that, I have found some that are in lower price point that are very damn good.  I have found, in my experience, that typically the higher price point provides either porn star performance or almost movie starlett looks and in some rare cases, both.  
However, YMMV no matter who you are with, depending on mood, how you treat her and a lot of other factors.  So who the hell knows.  You almost have to pick your price you are willing to bet and do a hell of a lot of research and roll the frikkin dice.

So what is the reason for your defensiveness and attempt to impugn?

Did I specify "ALL" pricey providers or affluent hobbyists in my post?

"Me thinks doth protest too much"

Maybe in your next life you'll pay more attention in English class.

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Your use of "puffery" is wrong, and indicative of your minimally perfunctory vocabulary skills.

G W Bush is planning on doing speaking engagements after he is out of office. Perhaps you should seek employment as his writer.

It's not what they do it's how they they do it.

Probably not just the rate, but I hardly ever see the type of things other ladies complain about, which lets me maintain a good attitude.  It helps me be more selective.  Being low volume means I don't burn out as much as being high volume, and I'm able to pay more attention to each gent.  Just the way I like to run it.

If you look at this site most of the guys make over 100K. They can handle high rates with no problems. Best for you stick to sites like CL. I must warn you will spend a lot of time do research and ultimately will end coming back to this site to see if the providers have reviews. I got lucky when I was out west. I saw a $300/$400 model type provider for $200/hour. She lowered her rates because business was way down. I ended up book her for two 2 hour appointments for $400/each for a total of $800. If she has been at the $300/hour rate she would only only saw me once when I was out on the trip. With me because her rate was lower she ended up getting more money out of me.

I guess that's your real name after all.

"Some guys may want a lady that looks like she could be in Playboy."



I would feel weird driving a Rolls and I would not want to drive or ride in one in public..
As far as ladies that look like Playboy centerfolds I will be happy to ride them anyday..

My ATF is actually very high priced and even with the deal she gave me[1st timer n all, diff story]....Its only a rip-off if you feel cheated, only over-priced if you feel you paid too much.
If you've seen a high priced provider before then you know whether she's worth it or not...

By the by..I don't make 100K a year..not even close[too young] but Ive only really ever felt Ive gotten my money's worth with the high priced Provider

my 2c's

fun to ride until your friends find out.

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I am in agreement. Providers can charge what they please. In a city like NYC where you have to pay over 1200 to get a decent place of course the rate is higher than in a city such as mines where for 700 you can get a nice townhome in the suburbs. My advice is pay for only what you feel comfortable with.

Now do I equate price with class? No, I charge 300/hr and I have a bachelor's degree & am pursing my 2nd degree. I was raised in an upper middle class home and went to private schools all of my life. But my rate reflects what I need in order to live comfortable. I can see a few clients a week and gross over 4k a month. This is suffice due to the cost of living in my area. My reviews are stellar (scoring mostly 9s due to the fact that I do not offer at least 3 of the 5 requirements to get a 10)

To each lady their  own. Personally, I think some gentlemen are in a fantasy land thinking that we see 20 men a week. Most providers do not see that many gents a week. Personally, I do not see how a lady charges 100 -150/hr. But it is not for me to judge.

I do notice that I see a better quality in gents at this price since in my area 200 - 250/hr is the norm. The gents I meet are more respectful and we enjoy our time more, because they are not concerned with are they paying too much. They just want to enjoy our time together.


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Wow, never expected the wide variety of responses to my question. I wasn't complaining or even insinuating that nobody was worth the price. I was actually curious as to what could be worth the prices.

Even though I may not agree with all of the responses - I respect your right to give them and I thank those that gave an honest, respectful reply and for those that didn't, well thanks anyway.

I was going to make a half-way erudite reply, but anyone with a search function can read the last one I posted on this exact subject.

This subject is broached so often it should become a sticky...

When ladies charge that much money for their time, you are NOT paying for sex. Sex goes without saying at that price. You are now paying for Companionship, erudite conversation, lively debate, finishing school-quality manners, social grace, excellent grooming and impeccable dressing.

This is not the type of lady you invite to an hour-long romp at the Holiday Inn. This is the type of lady you can hold court with while brunching with clients at The Breakers, or who is perfectly at ease at a black tie charity ball in the White House.

These ladies are not really marketing themselves to blue collar gentlemen. Not because they don't like them (blue collar guys are generally much better lovers)...but because their specialized skills make them the perfect companions for a different type of man with a different type of lifestyle and very different needs from an escort.

So, is she worth it? If her skill set matches your needs, then she is worth every penny and more.

You are free to critique mine along with my detractors.

ALL the names used on these boards are aliases. What is your umbrage with mine?

for helping me out Mr. Delusional. I am motivated to correct my obvious lack of insight, defensiveness and cruel attacks on your character. You will hopefully see much better contributions from me in the future. I've learned so much from you I may need to take a break so if you give some more insightful feedback I probably will not respond. Just assume I appreciate all your help.



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Providers should charge whatever they want.  It is their time and bodies.  Anyone who doesn't want to pay the rate should just ignore them, or gaze at their pictures.  That activity is free.

I am more interested in why there seems to be a floor in the price point for call girls.

In D.C. my guess is that 80% of the providers (not street walkers and the like, but providers who rely on the internet like this site an Eros) have a price point clustered between $300-350.  

Assuming there is an expense level that must be met to make providing worthwhile, I wonder why $300 seems to be the floor.  (As others have said the floor elsewhere, like NYC or Vegas, is higher, but I bet whatever the floor price it also gathers a huge majority of providers.)

I would think that prices would fluctuate more often, higher when the demand is higher (convention business up in town) and back down when demand is lower (tighter economy for discretionary spending).  Maybe someone who has studied economics could answer this.

There seems to be so much great looking talent in the $300-350 range in my area I am happy hunting in that range.  I've gone to 500 when my imagination and lust has been strong, but that's as much a factor of my asset level as anything else.  If I were twice as rich I might go higher myself.  (Hmmm, or would I just increase my frequency?)  

I don't begrudge the high pricers.  If she gets it more power to her.

I am assuming you mean a used Rolls, I believe the Phantom starts in the mid three hundreds and the Drophead starts in the four hundreds.

I too doubt that I will ever own a Rolls, a Bentley maybe, but probably never a Rolls. I, like you would never fault someone else for buying one though.

THAT! is the precise reason i pay 500 for my provider. It goes far beyond the idealistic get myself off type of sex and gets into the realm that I can meet this lady anywhere and at any type of social event and SHE feels totally comfortable and at ease. Yes the sex too is beyond grea, its a connection. Thanks ITgirl, very well put.

..How much of that was the realization that you were spending over $8 per minute though.

This reminds me of the people who buy extremely overpriced stereo cables and are sure they hear better quality on a $500 digital interconnect versus a $10 one.  There is no difference on a digital interconnect, as much as stereophile magazine would like you to believe differently.

In my experience, it has been just the opposite.   The less expensive women have been the better more personal experience for me.  I have a few women I see who are significantly less than $300 and they all "blow my mind" and make me so happy.

The expensive women OTOH have been "fun" and good, but not to the point of being better than my current favorites.

with kudos to Paul Simon

The last time I was in Medellin I paid $500 US, not for an hour, but for three days. I met a Paisa at Showtime San Diego(a strip club) took this young Paisa home with me for the evening and hit it off so well that I took her to the Playa in Cartegena for three days. When I gave her the 500 bucks she acted like she had just hit the lottery. Damn, I need to go back to Colombia.

Ok.  If I ever needed a companion at the Breakers, or were ever invited to a black tie ball at the White House, then I might consider a higher priced girl.

Personally I get enough intelligent conversation in my life.  Pretty much everybody I associate with is very bright and successful.  I never have a problem having a great conversation with anybody (outside the hobby), when I need that part of my brain stimulated.

OTOH, what do I pay escorts for?  To have the sexual part of my brain stimulated, and to have other parts of my body stimulated in the same way.   I do not personally need to have a good conversation, but instead want to be "mind fucked" by the woman.  

But as you say, to each their own.   Furthermore, I really like seeing the women who are interested solely in sex.  It is a group of people I am not able to associate with in real life, so to me I would prefer to meet women like that anyways.

I mean c'mon why else would a country produce so much of a drug that keeps you up all day if there wasn't eye candy everywhere....
Believe me once I establish myself and start making over 100K a year, I'll be taking a trip down to Sud America...
Colombianas y Brasileras first...lol

Don't forget Argentina, one place that the dollar still goes a long, long way.

i don't want to offend any providers here, but i disagree on one thing. i think when you see a provider, it is sex that you are paying for. i'm not saying that you're ONLY paying for sex, but how many phone calls do you think providers would get if the hobbyists knew they did not provide the sex?

maybe they live in the same apartment.