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Re: On orgasams (hers)
literbike 170 reads
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I can see where you are coming from but does it matter if it's real or very well manufactured? Some of us are very good and it is part of the whole illusion. Then again it can be very, very real.

Because this may not be something you know beforehand and as you said it helps you with yours which is totally your deal.

I get terrible performance anxiety if I feel the guy wants me to and is there waiting and doing whatever he can to produce one, there is no way in hell it's going to happen.

Astucious1136 reads

So I've developed an affinity as of late for inducing orgasms in providers. I'm actually keeping score. Yes, I'm a geek.

I got the idea by happenstance when a provider I was doing came hard, really hard, twice. There was no doubt about it, she got much wetter after each one and she was trembling.  The first x number of times I saw a provider I was mainly just interested in my own orgasm. But of course I'd have a pretty much 100% success rate at this. When I realized it was actually possible to cause an orgasm in a provider it provided me with something interesting to track.

One question that has of course occurred to me is how to distinguish fake from real Os. The wetness factor is one. I can also ask and most providers tell me "oh yeah" or if they didn't "got close but just kind of tired today". But if a provider has just faked an orgasm and is an extremely talented actress she's not going to tell me the truth, like "yeah I faked it". And if she's a good actress she's probably also a good liar, bless her heart.

Any other tips on how to determine if it was a real one? I can spot a mediocre fake and some are obviously real but some are open questions to me. By the way, I'm not a bad looking guy, muscular and fit, and I spend a lot of my time DATY.    

Please both providers and hobbyists chime in.

Enthusiastically yours,

Astucious

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johngaltnh410 reads

You will find that the vaginal pulsing takes place at 0.8 sec intervals. Also, the anal sphincter does this simultaneously. There is usually a light sheen of sweat as well.

I have been told, however, by a very sharp provider that these symptoms can be faked.

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Astucious341 reads

Perfect! Are providers usually cool with strapping a pulse monitor to their anal sphincter? Or do you just estimate it in your head? It'd be nice to have precise data over multiple encounters. Thanks.

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Optimus_Prime_Beef325 reads

satisfaction time, and try to make it that way.  But I don't give a shit if she fakes it all freaking day!  Because at the end of that day, I paid to make sure I have one!
I don't feel the need to count them, report them in a review, or worry about real vs fake!
They know when they got me, as I make sure they have a mouthful of proof! LOL
Tracking orgasms....what a loon!

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Astucious283 reads

Well dude, I wasn't asking the question because I wanted YOU to track provider's orgasms, it was cause I wanted to. Sorry for the misunderstanding :)

Loon, yes, too much Looney Tunes in the 60s.

Happy CIMing

Astucious

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czcodger260 reads

For me, wetness, she takes on a light crimson skin color. Light twitching and/or trembling indicates orgasms. Her gripping tighter as the session progresses. I, like you, find that my satisfaction is higher when the lady has had a real orgasm or two. There are fewer events more pleasant than watching a woman rise to a climax, climax, then slowly come back down.

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literbike141 reads

Most of that can be manufactured...not saying it's wrong or right...just saying it can be. And all women do not have all the signs of sexual arousal or orgasm.

There are some very good trade secrets that I will not divulge but suffice to say...what would you prefer...a good performance or someone to say...OK you can stop now because it's not going to happen and I am getting a tad sore.

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lilli345 reads

1. there are many physical signs to indicate an orgasm in a female, however it is also true that all of these signs can be faked...right down to the trembling legs, light sheen of perspiration on the face, powerful regular vaginal contractions, even the "sudden" wetness.

i know this because i can and have faked all of these signs, many years ago when i was insecure with my sexuality and was just trying to "fit in." you see, the reality is i don't care at all about having an orgasm...it does nothing to enhance my sexual experience. and i am proud to say that for the past 8 or 9 years i have lived a life of authenticity, and have not faked any orgasms. :) instead i let my partners know that my focus will always be on him, and that's where his should be as well.

2. there is NO bigger turn-off for me personally, than a man actively trying to turn me on. it is like the nun from grade school standing over you with the ruler, shouting, "do it! just do it!"...not an erotic feeling. it's just way too much pressure. i think that sex is more enjoyable for all parties if you just relax, be natural, don't analyze or over-think, and just BE.

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Lover43240 reads

Right on baby. Each to their own

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literbike204 reads

"there is NO bigger turn-off for me personally, than a man actively trying to turn me on. it is like the nun from grade school standing over you with the ruler, shouting, "do it! just do it!"...not an erotic feeling. it's just way too much pressure. i think that sex is more enjoyable for all parties if you just relax, be natural, don't analyze or over-think, and just BE."

lilli, I could not have said it better...in fact the saddest thing...I am about to disconnect business wise from a very dear friend who just does not seem to get this point and I have been gentle and sat him down and told him my side. He either just does not care what I say or thinks if he persists it will happen. The thing is when I see him now I just get angry and grit my teeth. He just asked to see me tomorrow and I refused. I just can't bare it any longer.

He thinks if he holds off forever and pounds away it will happen...it will NEVER happen and I have to stop him every single time. Maybe he gets some bizarre pleasure out of my angst..who the hell knows. All I know is that I can't do it any more with him.

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lilli160 reads

unfortunately some males lack both the common sense and the maturity to understand such a basic premise. this is one of the many reasons why i am only emotionally and sexually attracted to men many years older than myself, however sadly there are also a few of those beyond the age of 40 with very limited life experience or grasp of human relations, who continue to cling to such juvenile beliefs and motivations. i do not have the temperament or drive to make a man into a man, so i can only bid farewell to these gents, as you must bid adieu to your friend.

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literbike176 reads

Thank you lilli..at least someone understands the way it is.

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Astucious169 reads

Wow, sounds like you guys have seen some real weirdos :) I think maybe I didn't properly state my case. I certainly don't "hold off and pound away" trying desperately to make a provider have an orgasm. The provider doesn't "know" I'm trying to make her cum. In fact I'm not TRYING to make her cum, I simply enjoy it when they do and decided to keep track of the real ones. Let me give you a real world example, if I may:

I was with this 21 year old provider (I'm 47) for an hour incall. She is super hot and very friendly personality wise. I like her (like I like my hair stylist). I enjoy kissing and sucking on every inch of her body, head to toe and particularly that wet spot in between. I like to tongue said wet spot and she seems to enjoy it to. I noticed that if I DATY her first she never uses any lube, otherwise she does. So it must do something for her. She was in cowgirl and fucking away and after about 2 minutes she had a serious orgasm. She was worried about the thin walls and nearby hotel staff but she completely lost control and was moaning really loud. Like my wife does and my wife NEVER fakes. Later in mish it happened again. The second one made me have a great orgasm. The entire period of sex was probably 35 minutes or so with only about 10 minutes of serious "pounding". Afterwards she laid back and said "wow, that's the first time I've cum since I've been in town" (roughly 3 days).

It made me feel good that she had an orgasm. It made her feel good that she had an orgasm. I wasn't trying to MAKE her have an orgasm but I certainly wasn't trying to make it unpleasant for her either. It was one of the best times I've had yet in the hobby.

So what's wrong with that?

Astucious

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lilli191 reads

Astucious,

this is definitely not the way you expressed yourself in the first post. of course there is nothing wrong with enjoying a female's orgasm that happens during the natural course of things. the problem comes in when men make a woman feel pressured to be aroused or to orgasm, and this does not have to be something he states outright. he may initiate a certain activity with the idea that "women like this and it may make her cum," and continue on with that activity endlessly, waiting for something which will never happen. he may do various things, from simple touching and kissing to intimate poking and prodding, looking to her face every minute or so to gauge her reaction. immature, inexperienced men do not realize the pressure-packed, cold environment this creates.

my question to you would be, do you ever find yourself pursuing and erotic activity with the hope of it leading to an orgasm in your female partner? i.e. would you daty if you knew there was NO chance it would lead to arousal or orgasm in your partner?

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literbike137 reads

Was going to reply to the above post but decided to read yours...I've got nothing to add..so very well said...brilliant even.

And lilli the gent i was talking about emailed me with ..."just let me spend time on you so you can have a good time...uggghhh...no thank you. How about that for an expectation and pressure to perform...no wonder women fake it...he just does not listen to me and we are on great terms with everything else and I have known this guy for 5 years.

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lilli159 reads

literbike, if after 5 years in your company he has yet to gain this basic wisdom or knowledge about female sexuality, then he is either astoundingly dim in this particular area, OR all the other women in his life have given into the temptation to pacify him by faking the funk. sad.

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Astucious249 reads

Thanks for all the great replies. To those that believe I should focus only on my pleasure; Yep, agreed. It helps me with my orgasm if she has one first. It IS for me. Get it? :)

Now off too find anal sphincter pulse monitors at Wal-Mart.

Yay,

Astucious

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literbike171 reads

I can see where you are coming from but does it matter if it's real or very well manufactured? Some of us are very good and it is part of the whole illusion. Then again it can be very, very real.

Because this may not be something you know beforehand and as you said it helps you with yours which is totally your deal.

I get terrible performance anxiety if I feel the guy wants me to and is there waiting and doing whatever he can to produce one, there is no way in hell it's going to happen.

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