Thinking about joining p411, it requires a lot of private information , just want to know the benefits . Automatically screen to most providers. Plz give you intake  
Thank.  

I only see girls who are on it and it with reviews from TER have served me well! Especially with the higher end/highly reviewed girls.

With 2 provider's recommendations so I didn't have to share personal info. All of my experiences using P411 have been positive, and one of the biggest draws for me is that I can find ladies there that will see clients like me. The site is well laid out and there are lots of ladies listed. You can request info, request an appt, see when the last time a lady logged into the site, see who's online, see who's available now, etc. Tons of info.

don't assume just because you're a member that every girl will accept it without further screening. Many do require more.

I didn't need P411 or TER at all when I used to live in Los Angeles. My godly, *HX*, Eastern Euro and K-Girl agencies were a goldmine and well served all my needs for a fraction of the inflated rate.  

I got onto p411 without giving any personal info by getting recommended by two p411 providers.  
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I'm not aware that p411 has ever leaked any client private info.  I would have gone that route but I was already going to see these ladies so I just used the invited method.
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Due to the steps providers also have to go thru to get on p411, it just makes them more likely to be reliable (and not LE.)
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I recommend it.

It might ask for a little more upfront, but once you start seeing providers, you’re “okays” will make it easier to see more women. Of course some providers don’t accept P411 as screening, but for me, I don’t like to ask mu past dates too often for references.

I had the good fortune to become a life member when they started.  I have never had any problems and and I appreciate their business model as it adds a layer or two of certainty.

Here in LA/OC P411 & kgirl agencies are still the most solid sources. Everything else is flakey as hell and generally unreliable. Post covid has made it even more so.

If a provider won't accept mecwith 30 OK's.. I don't bother with them

I like to screen potential clients on my own it helps to see if we may have chemistry. I don’t trust anyone with my personal safety. I don’t require references, but that’s just me. I don’t advertise anywhere, but here on TER. Many guys have old plays from years ago & assume their still good, but lots can change over time.

Definitely recommended. A few tips...
- use the saved search feature regularly to focus on your preferences and keep tabs on new listings
- build up your OKs and keep them current.  Some girls restrict their listings based on how many OKs you have
- most girls accept communication via p411 PMs which is nice for an initial outreach showing you're a member
- be patient on responses...some girls don't check their p411 all the time (although they should get an email notification)
- while providers can link their TER reviews to their listing, many don't, so still try finding them on TER (eg via their email address, handle, etc.  

I joined in 2017 from a referral from one provider and never had to provide private info.

They asked me for some personal info (copy of DL and something else I don't recall) and promised to destroy it once I was verified. I had little to lose so I decided to trust them (Gina, the old owner, who was great). I have no reason to think they didn't do as they promised.

As it was referred to me by a provider after I had seen her, so i didn't have to give up any personal info.  And I've only had issues with two providers.  One wanted more screening info than P411 gave and another was an agency that had an issue with the date of my most frequent "okay" I had listed.  I moved on from both expeditiously.  Other than that P411 has been a dream to work with.  I think they are under new management now, but the previous regime was A1 in my book.  For me the greatest benefit is not having to remember and gather up references, either send a date request or a pre-screening request which most ladies accept, and if not that's fine too, just move on.  

I usually just send the lady a PM on P411 introducing myself and asking if 411 is sufficient for screening and, if not, what else they need. It's been rare that any lady I've contacted this way has required anything else after they look at my profile.

as part of our screening. I have been a provider listed on P411 since 2010 and it has always been helpful site for business.
I have met some awesome clients many I still see to this day.
If a gent has many okays they are recent I will accept that for screening.  
Not 4+yrs since his last ok and all of his okays have retired in this case I will ask for additional screening since his okays in my opinion are not valid.

Some folks live and die by it.. There used to be a lifetime membership option back when Gina was running the show..  

About giving some personal information to one professional service than to every provider I see.  That to me is the benefit of the site.  Once in you'll at least find some providers who will see you without more information as they know you've been verified by somebody.  Then after a couple of okays you should be good to go to see just about anybody without much trouble.

Works fairly well. Still run into providers who want more. I just say no thanks and move on.  If you use this site and p411 you can paint a decent picture of what to expect.

P411 makes appointments easier to get with no or at least less additional information. Apart from wanting to see COVID vaccination cards, I have never been asked for more than one or two standard provider references with booking through P411 and not usually even that. It is also a good search tool for finding reputable ladies.  Even ladies who aren't on P411 will often use it for screening, and agencies seem to be reassured by it too.

P411 formerly supported agency accounts.  No longer.  So the agencies are gone, and agency ladies who didn't have individual P411 accounts but relied on their agencies are also gone.

It depends on what you want in a provider. I was a member when gina operated it and quit at the same time she left. at that time we had a good assortment in providers and massage girls in the small town in mn I lived. I join it for an occasional high end provider vs backpage. the providers I contacted, most did not reply as that was one of gina requirements. the ones that did wanted more references, also didnt care about my reviews on ter. backpage girls you didnt need anything, the funny thing is one gal on backpage wanted 150 for half, on 411 wanted 350.

One agency (Your Favorite Assistants) and their providers show up in search listings on my p411 profile.  

I tried it for a few years. It was fine, but I felt like every provider the had the license to charge $600 or more just because they listed there! I am in LA, and 90% of my sessions come in at $300-500, so only 5-10% of my sessions were with potential P411 providers. I have several great sources including TER, and a few trusted bookers who keep me busy.  I usually still checked P411 listings out on TER, and most of the girls on P411 were on other sites. At some point I felt like I was paging through the same limited list of providers over and over. When I quit, I rarely missed it.

As you said, only 5-10% of your sessions were with non K-girls.  The remaining 90% were with agency K-girls.  The agency K-girls are $300.  The non K-girls on P411 are much more.  You don't need P411 if you mostly see agency K-girls.

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I can agree that the scenery changes slowly at p411.  But stability is not really a bad thing.  

The gals on P411 are definitely skewed toward the expensive side (including the Asian gals). However, I think that has more to do with being established with good reviews and reputations. P411 does seem to have become less interesting since Gina left, but I was never sure if that wasn't more of a coincidence of timing with COVID.  

I've found that a number of ladies (even those who advertise on P411) won't take P411 "okays" as reference. They all have their reasons but if I can't use it as a verification service it's sort of pointless for me.

Agencies are no longer welcome on P411.  That probably sufficiently explains the dearth of agency (K-)girls on P411.  
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When P411 kicked the agencies off, some agencies offered and some mongers took notes of useful contact info before it disappeared.

Several Kgirl agencies in different parts of the country are now accepting P411.  You should not mislead people about things you know nothing about.  You have never seen a girl, nor have you ever been screened by an agency.  You are the king of assumptions, and it's a disservice to others when you pass them off as fact.  You like to browse the archives.  There are posts from me and several guys in other cities attesting to the fact that Kgirl agencies are now accepting P411 as a reference for admission.  

I question the above post for motive. G sent me a several PM on P-411 years ago when I first joined. If you travel or meet new providers on a regular basis you will be greatly aided by P-411.  For guys who stick with a few local favorites probably not. End of the day the cost of p-411 or TER is the cost of doing business. Pay to play makes the world turn.

If you have at least a few "Okays" from well-known, reputable providers P411 definitely gives you credibility. It doesn't "guarantee" anything but it will open doors and give you a priority standing over someone who doesn't have these credentials.

A lot can happen in 6 months to a year that’s life. This is why I am no longer on P411 because the majority of men feel entitled & P411 does not screen, like I do. I don’t trust anyone to verify potential new friends. How would they know if you had a pending case, or we’re just released on bail, etc.? They do simple check to make sure your a real human that is of legal age & that is all.

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All valid points I was unaware of, thanks for the contribution. Considering those points, it makes being a paying member of P411seem like a waste. If reputable ladies can't trust the verification of P411, there's no since paying for it.  

I concur!