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SoftlySarah See my TER Reviews 1392 reads
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Thanks for the great answer!  

Not that I imagine anyone asks for a lady's credentials or passport upon meeting, but just curious how these statements are perceived.  

I also imagine that they create certain expectations for a client.

1. Well-traveled

Out of state? To another country? Two? What, to you, qualifies?

2. Well-educated

Graduated high school? Some college? PhD? Does it matter where someone went to school? Does online count?

You can also say "who cares?" Lol!!

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Posted By: SoftlySarah
1. Well-traveled  
   
 Out of state? To another country? Two? What, to you, qualifies?  
   
 2. Well-educated  
   
 Graduated high school? Some college? PhD? Does it matter where someone went to school? Does online count?  
   
 You can also say "who cares?" Lol!!

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1. Well traveled - I've been to a bunch of different hotels and motels!

2. Well educated - I dropped out of HS but look, I have a GED!

Let's also add:

3. Highly-reviewed: I've screwed a lot of guys and they wrote about it!

Now I'll say it, who cares :-)

These terms mean less to me than many others so I guess I can say who cares.  

Warm hearted, nice eyes, great smile, and special sense of humor mean the most.  I don't care where anyone has been or where they went to school.  I am what many would call well educated, and it doesn't mean much to me.  I think it was Mark Twain who said he didn't want his schooling interfere with his education -- I'll never argue with Mark Twain

...The smartest person I know never set foot in a college and never will.

But to answer your questions, how's this:

1. did time in prison; paid their debt to society :)
2. did time in college; will be paying her debt for the rest of her life  

 

Posted By: SoftlySarah
1. Well-traveled  
   
 Out of state? To another country? Two? What, to you, qualifies?  
   
 2. Well-educated  
   
 Graduated high school? Some college? PhD? Does it matter where someone went to school? Does online count?  
   
 You can also say "who cares?" Lol!!

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Too funny!!

I know a formal education is not necessarily important. One of my favorite books is about people who made millions with no college.  

Just trying to get an idea of what people expect/think of when they hear or read those terms.

Education is not about how much money you make in your life time. It is all bout your attitude about education, fundamental reason for education is to acquire knowledge, logic and reasoning. One needs all three to get through and enjoy life. Acquisition of material things has nothing to do with education or knowledge.

I tend to agree with you. What I meant by not important was mainly in terms of being a successful provider.  

And you're right- such millionaires are rare. But they do exist. I wouldn't recommend eschewing school to become one if them as a workable plan for the future, though. Lol!

1.] well traveled..been around the block more than once
2.] well educated..learned the hard way

Posted By: SoftlySarah
1. Well-traveled  
   
 Out of state? To another country? Two? What, to you, qualifies?  
   
 2. Well-educated  
   
 Graduated high school? Some college? PhD? Does it matter where someone went to school? Does online count?  
   
 You can also say "who cares?" Lol!!

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So this is what you think of when someone describes themself that way?

of course..you do not have to be a jet-setter to be well traveled..you do not have to have a PHD to be well educated and you do not have to be a millionaire to be well heeled..the school of " hard knocks " teaches you well...

Posted By: SoftlySarah
So this is what you think of when someone describes themself that way?

arketing ploy... just like "new and improved"... overused and ineffective...

..actually "new and improved" in this venue might be better than "well traveled" and "well educated

Fair enough!  

And as such would travel and education be irrelevant to you?

Posted By: SoftlySarah
Fair enough!  
   
 And as such would travel and education be irrelevant to you?

But the actuality of that for someone would not be irrelevant? Or do you usually presume the claims to be false and therefore irrelevant?

When one is educated, I know they will behave appropriately in any situation and would able to carry on a conversation. Both makes the experience a whole lot better that someone I cannot relate to. Tried it once or twice, didn’t go well at all and never again.

If they don't I guess you could read the website and glean from that possibly how educated or uneducated she is. That is if she wrote her own content.  

Nothing wrong with having a certain standard of hooker you want to see. We do it with the guys we want to see, so all's fair in P4P.

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Especially if a provider has a few pounds to lose that would ring true if she did and got new images. Now that is a selling point.

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1. Could be slept with a lot of guys ?  
2. Speaks Greek . Or
1. Likes to fuck strange guys ?
2. Still speaks Greek. Or
1. Has a passport.
2. Has actually used it. Or and this is my choice.  
1.Rrasha, smart and knows things.
2.Rrasha, is educated and knows things .  
 

Posted By: SoftlySarah
1. Well-traveled  
   
 Out of state? To another country? Two? What, to you, qualifies?  
   
 2. Well-educated  
   
 Graduated high school? Some college? PhD? Does it matter where someone went to school? Does online count?  
   
 You can also say "who cares?" Lol!!

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Well - traveled
 bib walks to Wal-mart once a week

 
Well - educated
 bib reads TER and pretends to know everything about the hobby

1) Well-traveled means she has been to several other states and or countries. Possibly have lived in multiple states/countries.  

2) Well-educated means some type of post-high school diploma. It could be a BA or BS from a 4-year college/university, a 2-yr. degree from a community college or trade school equivalent.

IMHO, More importantly, the lady needs an advanced "degree" in GFE. Not just the physical but the mental part of being a courtesan companion.

Thanks for the great answer!  

Not that I imagine anyone asks for a lady's credentials or passport upon meeting, but just curious how these statements are perceived.  

I also imagine that they create certain expectations for a client.

1. Well-traveled - Someone who knows the ins and outs of different cultures of different areas, even within the country. Perhaps because of this, is able to mingle with many different types of people and is presentable to anyone, anywhere. (i.e. she can be savvy anywhere because she's been to many places, seen many things, experienced many atmospheres and cultures).

2. Well-educated - Another way of saying an intellectual? Able to discuss many topics, perhaps not just one as that would be 'someone with an education in this or that'... WELL educated sounds like she's well-rounded in her education, doesn't have to know everything about all subjects, but enough to engage in some in-depth, intelligent conversation on most subjects if one should arise. A 'tool box of knowledge' is always good to have.

Imagine someone bringing a provider to a company dinner. (It's been done, lol,) or dinner with colleagues. A lot of guys want to bring a lady who can keep up with conversations that arise and not say ditzy comments all the time. She can articulate on a convincing level.

I just grab his cock every now and then under the table. That keeps him happy. :D
 

Next.

"Look! I have a piece of paper, which means I are smart!"
equivalent to
"Look! I have a marriage certificate, but my marriage sucks!"

LOL, sorry... no offense to anyone intended.

Some of the most genius people are self educated. Why? Schools don't offer further education on their philosophies on business or their specific trade.

I knew a large business owner who would sit through business classes and snicker... knowing these people who were teaching never have run a business in their life. They have a 'piece of paper' that says they can teach business, but no life experience in the trade. But, he had to go.

I know a high school drop out who has written for top editors, CEO's of the largest companies in the country, etc. etc. because he was way above the theory the schools could teach. He's a genius and made shit tons of money... more importantly, his clients made SHIT squared tones of money.

Musicians, artists, novelists, composers, designers, inventors... some people are just wired to want to learn anything they can, and going to a school for a specific major, or even major and minor will deprive them of exploring and creating their own recipe to their trade.

Why is all this relevant? Self education just works better for some because their minds work differently. Now, if they're going to be a surgeon, yeah. Go to school or you're not touching me, lol.

I totally agree, Courtney. I've met total buffoons who have formal educations, and some of the most inspiring people in my life have been self taught.

I am just interested in what people think or expect when they see these terms on someone's website.

Loved your thread, actually.

Just to clarify, that question was aimed to some who have a hard time believing some of these ladies have an education and continually complain about the ones who aren't. You, on the other hand, raised a great question. :)

Gave me a chance to speak my mind, lol. Loved it! :D

Lol!! I don't think as many people don't believe ladies here can be educated as it appears. I think they tend to be a vocal minority. But there are those infamous ads where people try to come off as something they are not, which are the ones who tend to draw out that vocal minority... And I guess that tells us where that vm tend to look for companionship. :D

Would drive on it?

Would fly on an airplane piloted by a self taught pilot? Why not?

Would you go see a Doctor who is self taught? Why not?

These are ridiculous myopic arguments which has no rationale whatsoever.

I can see why those things need formal training , people can die, but there are certain things that can be self taught. ANd that my friend is not myopic.  

In addition I take investment advice from my Dad who is self taught and weathered the nastiness of 2008 and beyond. And he never went to college nor did he study finance. A brilliant man who worked his way up into a very high level position with the mining industry and made bank!

Shows intelligence and an open mind. There are many who can't look past a piece of paper.

But I'm not referring to rocket scientists or engineers. I am still speaking in the context of providers. It would be preposterous to make such a blanket statement about education in general.

to make sentence. Only purpose of examples of exceptions is self justification and an internal feeling of not having education.

Reality is there are ten’s of thousand more poor uneducated people than the ones made millions or wrote for CEO’s. They are few and far between.

As far as self education is concerned, who said education stops when you walk out with degree. To some it does but the so called intellectuals, it is life long pursuit.

Everything has its value. I would rather see an educated and well travelled providers than an uneducated and uncultured provider.

What really is funny is; angels and godese’s out there, and I have not met a single one of the.m

Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever"––Gandhi

I appreciate that at least one guy has admitted to that being important to him.

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BBBJ BBBJCIMS BDSM BLS Body Rub Greek
CFS Couple Friendly Cowgirl DATO
DATY DFK Deep Throat Doggie Style
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LFK MSOG Missionary PSE
Reverse Cowgirl Role Playing Russian Shower Play
Sixty Nine Toys for Boys Water Sports YMMV

I think this, more what most men schedule, is pretty important to many, lol!

If a blow up doll would all of the above, you will happy.

I've met people with little more than an 8th grade education who knew more and had more intelligence than some PhDs I've met.

As for "well traveled", I recall a very humorous cartoon where a young man addresses the philosopher Immanuel Kant (Well known for hardly ever setting foot outside his home town of Konigsberg but whose philosophies fueled the likes of the American Revolution.) saying:  "I don't know about you Herr Kant, but I'm going out to make a name for myself in this world."

Just being in different places does not make one any more worldly, but learning and being open-minded sure does.

1. Well traveled means one who has always traveled...in and out of the U.S. and not just for this business, though some might say that could qualify if she actually got off her knees to go site seeing.  

2. Educated= Advanced Degree, but that also does not equate to "intelligent." If you're using life experiences to suggest educated, you already showed your ignorance, because that would not connote educated, but experienced or intelligent based on life experiences you've been through. Only someone who actually got an education (at a good school I might add) can claim to be educated, because it can be proven. Intelligence is subjective, while educated is not.  

I've seen guys call high school drop outs educated, just because they can show up for a call on time and spread their legs lol. So, when I see it on a Hooker site, it means nothing because so many are just plain full of shit. It's about as obvious as the "I am low volume" claims from women who spam every ISO and toss their link into every reply. Guess you're low volume by default, eh?

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London, that's a really good distinction between educated and intelligent. Thanks for that. And I agree completely.  

Thank you for the thoughtful answer! :)

 

Posted By: London Rayne
1. Well traveled means one who has always traveled...in and out of the U.S. and not just for this business, though some might say that could qualify if she actually got off her knees to go site seeing.  
   
 2. Educated= Advanced Degree, but that also does not equate to "intelligent." If you're using life experiences to suggest educated, you already showed your ignorance, because that would not connote educated, but experienced or intelligent based on life experiences you've been through. Only someone who actually got an education (at a good school I might add) can claim to be educated, because it can be proven. Intelligence is subjective, while educated is not.  
   
 I've seen guys call high school drop outs educated, just because they can show up for a call on time and spread their legs lol. So, when I see it on a Hooker site, it means nothing because so many are just plain full of shit. It's about as obvious as the "I am low volume" claims from women who spam every ISO and toss their link into every reply. Guess you're low volume by default, eh?

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... I would say in those cases, intelligent or 'stimulated by intelligent/intellectual conversation" would be a better advertisement technique for the high school grads. :)

And I will not add any of those to my website. All a guy needs to know is that I am going to treat him well, can expect a certain level of service and that I am discreet.  

In our meeting and conversation he can make up his own mind as to how smart or dumb I am if that is a concern/requirement of his.

Fair enough! Business is business.  

It is good to know what kind of clients we'd like to attract. I'd like prospective clients who prefer longer engagements and for whom what I might bring to the conversation is as important as what I might bring bcd. That's important to me regarding him as well- because to me seduction begins in the mind. I guess I prefer a fuller experience... Something that goes beyond merely the physical. And I like regulars as opposed to seeing new people all the time, so marketing beyond bcd has worked to attract exactly the gents I prefer spending time with.  

It is interesting to see what this stuff evokes for people. :)

Thanks for answering! :)

without announcing education etc on a website. I let that unfold when I meet. Guys are looking for a hot body and some good sex first and then if you can arouse other senses it makes the physical all that much better. Just my take. Incidentally I have no shortage of regulars and when I say regular I mean weekly and bi monthly.  

And you're welcome.

I can see where you're coming from and I can certainly appreciate it. I am sure other things about your website clue people in to what you have to offer beyond a good time physically. Whatever you're doing clearly works for you!  

In my own case I am not really looking to spend time with everyone who just wants the physical. I don't see a lot of people because I have limited time to pursue this endeavor. So I've looked to be more focused in my approach, allowing gents to self-select. That way the few gents I do see are gents I tend to thoroughly enjoy, both in and out of bed.

I didn't mention education or travel much on my website previously. And since changing that, I've noticed a marked difference in the types and numbers of men who approach me. It's pretty fascinating what a few words can do

1.  Been to lots of cities and states in the US, doesn't have to be out of country traveling, although that certainly could be included.
2.  At least some college, or some other schooling beyond high school.  Doesn't matter where.  Online???? not so sure about that.....

For me, I don't really care where she has been.  If she tours a lot, she's well-traveled IMHO.  A college degree or equivalent is not necessary, but I expect her to be able to hold an intelligent conversation with me.   You, Sarah, I know, are both well-traveled and educated.

Swim

Thanks for your answer! Yes, I would also consider someone who has been around the US quite a bit well-traveled. Some of the ladies I've known who tour have been to so many more US cities than I have. And even better if they get out and actually see the city!

EliseRose930 reads

While I agree with what many have said about paper qualifications having little to do with the intelligence of a person or their worldly knowledge, when I see 'well-traveled' and 'well-educated' in the context of a provider's website or advertisement, I tend to assume:

1. WELL-TRAVELED
- Has been to several countries (at least), and most certainly, a fair number of other states. I also assume that the provider is thus knowledgable about various cultures as a result of her travels, and can hold a decent conversation about her experiences overseas.  

2. WELL-EDUCATED
- Has, at the very least, a 4-year bachelor's degree from a reputable/accredited college. I may also accept the term being used by college student providers in the process of getting such an education. I don't consider graduating from high school enough to warrant such a self-description on a provider's profile, though as I have mentioned, I don't necessarily believe that their level of education always equates to their actual intelligence. I just think providers need to keep in mind that most people reading their profiles associate the term 'well-educated' with their actual education level (and not self-taught knowledge), and so, it would be deceptive to claim that term when it doesn't apply to them in that sense of the word. There is no harm in using other descriptions (intelligent, well-read, worldly) if the provider believes they are smart and able to handle conversation topics of greater depth despite not being college-educated. I have also seen some providers state that they are skilled at conversations about politics, literature, foreign films, finance, and whatever else they are confident in their knowledge of, which is another great alternative.

 
Personally, I state that I am well-traveled and well-educated on my website as a means of informing clients that I am capable of holding my own at dinner parties, company events, and so forth. It assures them that I am not an airhead who might embarrass them amongst their friends and colleagues. However, I also back it up with a clarification of those terms, and state on my profile that I am Ivy-educated and have traveled to 24 different countries.

Anyone can call themselves well-educated and well-traveled but I believe that the important thing to remember when advertising is that the majority will have certain assumptions about any trait a provider claims to have, and if they do not meet what the client presumes and expects, it will come off as false advertising even if they are, in fact, a beautiful, intelligent, and high-quality provider. There is really no point in embellishing or lying. I've had a client complain to me that he had once engaged the services of a provider who pretended to be well-traveled and possessed of a graduate degree. They met in private the first few times and he thought highly of her. She also told him where her graduate degree was from (in any case, I think giving out such specific personal information was silly of her). Then, he took her as a date to a colleague's promotion party and it turned out one of his colleagues had also graduated from the same college she claimed to have. When the colleague started a conversation with her about her travels and college experiences, it became obvious that she was lying and had never been to college or any of the countries she claimed to have visited.

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This is the answer I most agree with.  

It is difficult for me to bring up some of these topics because while the answers are important to me I also don't want to come off as classist or elitist. But these answers are most in line with what I think using the terms should convey. But one step further, I would say "educated" would mean associate's and bachelor's; well-educated would imply further studies, or the pursuit thereof.

Thanks so much for your thoughtful answer. :)

Posted By: EliseRose
While I agree with what many have said about paper qualifications having little to do with the intelligence of a person or their worldly knowledge, when I see 'well-traveled' and 'well-educated' in the context of a provider's website or advertisement, I tend to assume:  
   
 1. WELL-TRAVELED  
 - Has been to several countries (at least), and most certainly, a fair number of other states. I also assume that the provider is thus knowledgable about various cultures as a result of her travels, and can hold a decent conversation about her experiences overseas.  
   
 2. WELL-EDUCATED  
 - Has, at the very least, a 4-year bachelor's degree from a reputable/accredited college. I may also accept the term being used by college student providers in the process of getting such an education. I don't consider graduating from high school enough to warrant such a self-description on a provider's profile, though as I have mentioned, I don't necessarily believe that their level of education always equates to their actual intelligence. I just think providers need to keep in mind that most people reading their profiles associate the term 'well-educated' with their actual education level (and not self-taught knowledge), and so, it would be deceptive to claim that term when it doesn't apply to them in that sense of the word. There is no harm in using other descriptions (intelligent, well-read, worldly) if the provider believes they are smart and able to handle conversation topics of greater depth despite not being college-educated. I have also seen some providers state that they are skilled at conversations about politics, literature, foreign films, finance, and whatever else they are confident in their knowledge of, which is another great alternative.  
   
   
 Personally, I state that I am well-traveled and well-educated on my website as a means of informing clients that I am capable of holding my own at dinner parties, company events, and so forth. It assures them that I am not an airhead who might embarrass them amongst their friends and colleagues. However, I also back it up with a clarification of those terms, and state on my profile that I am Ivy-educated and have traveled to 24 different countries.  
   
 Anyone can call themselves well-educated and well-traveled but I believe that the important thing to remember when advertising is that the majority will have certain assumptions about any trait a provider claims to have, and if they do not meet what the client presumes and expects, it will come off as false advertising even if they are, in fact, a beautiful, intelligent, and high-quality provider. There is really no point in embellishing or lying. I've had a client complain to me that he had once engaged the services of a provider who pretended to be well-traveled and possessed of a graduate degree. They met in private the first few times and he thought highly of her. She also told him where her graduate degree was from (in any case, I think giving out such specific personal information was silly of her). Then, he took her as a date to a colleague's promotion party and it turned out one of his colleagues had also graduated from the same college she claimed to have. When the colleague started a conversation with her about her travels and college experiences, it became obvious that she was lying and had never been to college or any of the countries she claimed to have visited.  

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No matter whether a lady has a PHD in neuroscience or a GED, they both perform fellatio on a penis, part their long coltish legs (in some cases) and  allow men to enter their vaginas/rectums for a fee or  that she has sensual or sexually suggestive images on a website in conjunction with extremely explicit reviews touting her skills at coitus and other sex related gymnastics, it all boils down to this - we all fuck and suck for bucks.  

The reason a man has contacted a lady who plies her wares on an adult website, is to primarily have relations.  Maybe he might instigate a very spirited tete et tete discussing some of Churchill's famous quotes or discuss the concepts of neuroplasticity and then again he might not care

Let's say he were only paying for a 'dinner date' with a well educated, well traveled lady.  

Would he pay as much as some of these ladies charge for no fucking? Hell no! No man lays down those kinds of bucks for no fuckin'.

Hate this phrase, but 'just sayin'

And for some people it is important that they keep reminding themselves and others.

Why bother with the overhead of a website and perhaps an incall? Why not just step out on to the street? If we are all merely suckin' and fuckin'. Right? Lo

Is to corner a more favorable and lucrative market. It does not mean those of us that have websites and private in-calls are any better than a street walker (I am guessing your lowest common denominator), we just have a nicer place to perform the very same things they do.  

Elitism among hookers is a joke. Dress it up all you want, act above it all, announce the education, the travel and you get a different class of client and if that is your goal, I get it. But I highly doubt you are purely entertaining your gentlemen callers with poetry, dance and music recitals.

Once the clothes have hit the floor, it's all the same.

 


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Just to comment on one area that you hit on...

I've asked a few gals to dance...and it's not the samba  LOL

Not interested in poetry or music recitals...well, maybe a really good flute player?

Posted By: justanillusion
Is to corner a more favorable and lucrative market. It does not mean those of us that have websites and private in-calls are any better than a street walker (I am guessing your lowest common denominator), we just have a nicer place to perform the very same things they do.  
   
 Elitism among hookers is a joke. Dress it up all you want, act above it all, announce the education, the travel and you get a different class of client and if that is your goal, I get it. But I highly doubt you are purely entertaining your gentlemen callers with poetry, dance and music recitals.  
   
 Once the clothes have hit the floor, it's all the same.  
   
   
 

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post that really isn't there, but it us as though you hold what we all do in contempt. I don't happen to feel that way. Sure, writers all put pen to paper, string together words to convey ideas. But you can't seriously tell me there is no difference between Dostoevsky and someone who writes copy for the back of your soup can. Maybe Dostoevsky wrote for food labels before he penned Crime and Punishment, but the two acts are hardly comparable.

His hookers have mean lady pimps who are dying of consumption.

Lol.

i had an extensive conversation on Opera and classical music with a gent last week. I knew enough about it to ask the right questions and carry on an intelligent conversation about it... however, I did get full ride to a private university because I sang an Opera song in the audition, lol. (Didn't take the offer at 18, which is what started the conversation.. hahaha..)

Point being, some men actually thrive on mental stimulation.

Well travelled - been to more than the local beach
Well Educated - Prob had problems with family growing up so couldn't study but as street smart and emotionally intelligent than someone with the best degree.

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