Apparently some classless monger sent this in an opening email, and now he’s being put on blast on Twitter from the provider community.

perception, and is always YMMV.  A guy who routinely pays $1500 for an escort may think she looks like a bargain at $1000, while a guy who mostly pays $500 may think she's overpriced, but can a customer really say one way or the other until he has taken the plunge and booked her?  Because of the infinite number of variables between any two individuals, I agree its a completely inappropriate question, especially if he is a new customer asking about menu options.  

Apparently it's more than OK to out the email address, name of a monger and such for asking a simple question?

We're talking about people not a fkn object. Buy a clue.  

I mean, she does have a book in the picture.

100% tacky question. I might feel differently if she quoted him out of context, ie, he was trying to be funny, but I doubt it.

A lawyer provides a service.
A cmt provides a service
A physical therapist provided a service  
A provider provides a service

Guys, he may lack tact, but then we'll need to invent a new word for her level tactlessness. She has a hell of a nerve not blurring his name and email address.

The fuck?
Reivews disclose personal info? Reviews disclose pictures of private conversations? Reviews depict the session that was paid for.  

I think you need to take a breath.

Regardless of the question, as off-putting as she may have taken it.  That's a huge red flag to blast someone over twitter.  Just all around bad for business, wow.  

Only a complete idiot would use his real-life email.

You could have fooled me. I hope this doesn't mean you aren't coming back. Seriously. Don't do it....

but more importantly newbies.  In fact, she did the us a favor.

I apologize, you in fact didn't say this, agreed.  

I would never visit a provider who outed someone's email (or other real life info) for such a petty reason.  
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I agree the question is guaranteed to elicit a negative response, but simply ignoring it would be more appropriate than exposing the person's info.

Who's "us"?

Whether someone is an idiot or not is irrevant to the fact of putting someone's private convo and info on blast.

to do was cut and paste this verbiage from her website in her response to him:

There are some hobbyists who have nothing better to do.

Assuming the $1000 is for an hour, no "extras or special services", not published actor/model, I'm wondering the same.  Actually, I'm more curious who pays those rates.  noobs?  You really can't blame them for charging rates that customer's will pay.  My guess is that they are just fishing for these noobs to create low volume sugar daddies, but just a guess.  

They did it when I was $200. They did it when I was $400. They still do it with what I provide that hardly anyone else provides . I just let those who see the worth book and the rest well it's their loss. They can keep getting scammed. Just let it roll off your back. I get plenty of business and I am sure you do as well.

Regarding a lawyer don't go cheap it never works out!

It's probably a fake email and name. But I don't agree with sharing it regardless. Just share the info not the actual name and email. Even on other sites for my other job we are not allowed to share names on public forums. That will get u in the HR office quick.

And there are providers who are assholes.

What makes her worth 1k is clients. If a provider set a price point and clients didn’t book her then that provider would have to make adjustments to her donation.  

He should be asking the guys who have seen her.

Agree. The issue was worth sharing, but it wasn’t necessary to screen shot the whole email.

Agree with both of you. Completely fine to comment on the question or cite it.

Yep and the boards here could use a good bit more of that type of contribution.

Is that what he considers it?

The whole concept of finding a teachable moment is based on taking knowledge and lessons learned out of a bad situation.  

The teachable moment is on both sides. If you look at CKS's post, he states "Use a hobby email address and phone." Isn't that a "teachable moment" to protect the guys? He didn't condone what the provider did at all.  
Imho, both the guy and the provider were out of bounds here. I despise what that guy sent her re: her worth, but I also don't think the punishment for that fit the crime.  
Outing someone should only be for extremely serious offenses and while I think what the guy sent was rude, ill advised and demeaning, I don't think it rises to the level of an extreme offense. Just my 2 cents.

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You’re still overreacting. Your rebuttal is based on the false premise that this business is asymmetric. Take away the premise, and your argument implodes on itself.

there is a lot of room for interpretation in what constitutes a "extremely serious offenses", just as you suggest.  If you get a provider who overreacts at a perceived offense that really isn't too bad, and outs the customer, potentially ruining his life, then that provider should be avoided forever.  There is no coming back from bad judgment that could ruin someone's life. Of course, outing the personal info of a provider who is UTR with her family and friends is just as bad, so it cuts both ways.  I prefer to see providers who have a history of discretion and respect our privacy the same way that I respect theirs.  There is hardly any dispute that cannot be handled privately.  There is no need to go public unless it rises to the level of a crime that should be a police matter.   Then you report it, but you have to accept the consequences that it MAY become public.  

I didn't make any rebuttal. I simply replied to you who said not one person said what the provider said was good.

As possible. So that others don't fall victim to the same mistake. This is what mongers as a community should do imo. The only power mongers have is on public forums and/or reviews. Make your power count and light a fire under providers who break lives and out info that is supposed to be private.  

What members fail to see is that only by using our numbers does anything have a chance of being effective. This case is a great example. Us discussing this here has limited reach. A few of us addressing the issue on Twitter would be similarly ineffective. But doing both of those and more would reach a critical mass where she would feel the pinch of her shit conduct and — importantly — other providers would take notice and learn that there's a price to pay for crossing certain lines.
 
And that's the way I feel about raising issues with TER. Do that first. Send them Problem Reports, PMs, and whatever, but if it reaches a point where it becomes clear they are not going to do anything to remedy the situation — bring it to the forums, at which point WE need to care enough to collectively raise the issue.

I am derailing a thread about a provider who outed a monger because she was offended by the question.. by talking about a provider who outed a monger because she ass offended by the question?

This would have been funny if it weren't for the fact it's been so mind-numbingly repeated.  

I did not demand anything.