Hi all,  I’m new to this world so please forgive me if this is a naive or over discussed topic.

How do you know she's actually testing for STDs? Or been vaccinated for HPV. Or taking Prep for HIV.
PS: most likely if you've been sexually active for a number of years you have probably already been infected with HPV and simply don't know it.
"Human papillomavirus (HPV) is a common sexually transmitted infection (STI) that can affect both men and women. While there is no specific HPV test for men, there are ways to detect and diagnose HPV in male patients.  
Methods of HPV Detection in Men:  
Physical Examination: A healthcare provider may perform a physical exam to look for genital warts or other signs of HPV infection.  
Sample Collection: Samples may be collected from the penis, urethra, or anus for testing.  
DNA Testing: Samples collected from the patient are analyzed in a laboratory to detect the presence of HPV DNA."

Virtually every provider would either be offended, block you or both. And even if she entertained those questions, how sure would you be she was even telling you the truth?
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We all have to do what makes us feel safe. That’s why we wear a condom. We can never ascertain someone else’s STD status unless you swop tests results and even they are no guarantee.
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This business carries certain inherit risks with disease transmission being just one. You mitigate the risk to your confirm level but asking SWs these questions you mention are just a non starter.

I like how OP puts #2 and #3 on the provider. Why doesn't OP get the vaccine and get the PreP RX themselves if they're so worried about it? People need to take responsibility for their own health and safety!

As a provider I do get tested on a regular basis, but if I do have a guy ask me the above questions I politely decline responding. The reason is that guys get lulled into a false sense of security about their own health when they ask a provider these questions. If you are seeing providers, regardless of their STI status, YOU should be getting tested yourself on a regular basis. At the very least every year, every 6 months or even 3 months is better. If you are worried about HPV (genital warts) YOU should get vaccinated. If you are worried about HIV, YOU should be on PreP. I never ask a client any of these questions because honestly it is none of my business, but also I know that I am doing what I need to do on my end to be healthy and safe, and you should too. The only person responsible for your health and safety is you, no one else.

First of all, thank you for the thoughtful replies so far. I appreciate your candor. To address a few of the comments Re: my own usage of Prep and the HPV vaccine:

that was a Jennifer Coolidge reference from White Lotus - IYKYK.  

I have been "Hobbying" for more years than I am willing to admit to.....I have never gotten any sort of sexually transmitted Infection or Disease from an Escort......I did get the Clap many ,many years ago from a gal that was working for me at the time........and that was a couple of Tryst's in the office or at a hotel !    Stay aware of your "surroundings".....! Escorts use their Vagina and Mouth to either make a living or enhance their financial circumstances......"Civilians" are looking for affection, dinner, happy hour, maybe a weekend somewhere, etc.....Just sayin' !

Thanks for the reply. I wouldn’t use those questions to determine if I was going to see a provider. I would still see  them, but I would elect to wear a condom for oral and wouldn’t partake in daty. Your advice is good about waiting until after screening or when we are getting to know each other at the start of the date.

The only way to be sure HE'S protected is by dating the suppression drugs himself.  Of course, there is a downside to taking Prep and telling female providers about it.  It can create an assumption in the mind of the lady that might not necessarily be true.

This is one of those things where p4p and RW dating are vastly different. This may be difficult to fully understand when you are new. It's just that providers will not be offended if you don't go down on them as they are professionals. You don't have to engage in any activities you don't want to in p4p as you get to set your boundaries and providers get to set theirs. It really is just that simple so you don't have to worry about it at all.

Sick of trolls coming on this site running their mouths about something they know nothing about and is not involved in. The sex workers industry is the oldest in the world, and will continue to exist  and survive ,despite all obstacles that it has faced then ,now and will in the future .  

I’m a very careful person who does not see lots of people, but am very analytical about my healthcare. I am happily STD free & love to keep it that way. By lowering my risks, staying safe, and always giving a fuk. Do you. My pussy is prestigious. Smile for me! 😁

If you're this afraid of getting sti and trying to put the onus on the provider, you probably shouldn't be doing p4p. There is always a risk, even if the providers are most likely the safest because it's their livelihood and they get tested frequently. It is more likely that a guy she sees is the one infected bc not every guy gets tested frequently even though they should. Civilians rarely get tested so I believe you are much more likely to catch something from casual sex than you would from a provider.

But you got the clap from a civilian. Thught you were safe with civie.

You are a smart cookie nude! Keep the rational comments a commin!!

I have been doing P4P for 22 yrs now.. I am 43 and started when I was 21.

If you have these concerns to this degree I think you should find another hobby. Maybe stamp collecting or coins? Probably not sailing because the boat could capsize. Not golf or tennis because you could get a sunburn. Maybe quilting, but remember those needles are sharp. Or maybe grow a pair, pick an escort, and have some fun.

Bobby to the rescue with another great answer!!  

That stripper totally most definitely liked you, didnt she?

Given the prevalence of the herpes virus, there is little chance of anyone in the hobby for much longer than a nano-second living without either HSV-1 or HSV-2 (or both). Maybe if you only and always engaged in covered activities, it could be avoided.  But otherwise, almost all of us likely have it. It's too easy to have it without symptoms or with symptoms so mild, you don't know you have the virus that lasts forever. At least in the USA, testing for HSV is not recommended for a-symptomatic people because: 1) testing often has equivocal (unreliable) positive results; and 2) so many people have it without symptoms that getting accurate positive results can cause more mental anguish than its worth.  IN most areas of the USA, HSV-2 is presumed so common that it is not even a reportable STD.

Get tested regularly. Get on prep. Get some dox. Vax for hpv if you feel like doing so
 
Only go bare with providers that have shown you their recent test results and are also on prep. No tests and no prep, bbbj only.  

Totally agree! I have a standing appointment at an Ivy League teaching hospital, where I am tested quarterly and PrEP meds managed.  

Use mouthwash for what exactly?

Antiseptic mouthwashes can kill bacteria you might have in your mouth before they take hold.  Not a guarantee but another level of protection.  Learned that from an agency girl who saw 7-8 clients a day (and I me reason I’m moving away from agency girls, lol.  I had no idea they saw that many guys in a day).  
As mentioned above, pissing right away and cleaning yourself immediately also help a lot.  Not foolproof, but will lower your chances of catching something.

I would not be offended. Would a hobbyist be offended if he was asked if he was checked for any sexually transmitted disease. Because it goes both ways.

You are the customer. Guys forget this. It’s why you have so much gps going on.

For me personally, I'm in the habit of testing every month from doing adult films.  I don't use just any test, I use the test adult performers use.  It's more accurate than a home test or the one your family physician will give you. It's much more expensive too however, my health is very important to me so I see it as worth the money. Keep in mind that a test does NOT prevent anything.  Not a darn thing.  Nothing.  Nada. Zero.  Zilch.  It's not a prevention measure.  It can only tell you if your prevention measures worked or not.  

" A test only shows if a person has a dis ease the moment they take the test. " is not quite accurate. A test only shows if a person has the detectable levels of the signs of some infection -- antibodies or whatever the targeted test is looking for. That doesn't mean they were not infected when the test was performed.

i have met a couple true porn stars over the years and they showed me their tests voluntarily ...  so we went BB . it was great UNTIL i realized after closer inspection that although they tested for 10 things, they did NOT test for HSV-2   i,e, genital herpes.    apparently the attitude in the professional porn biz is that everyone has it !

of the Mason-Dixon line, say, LV or SoCal, please post that you are coming to town on a Regional Board.  You look remarkably well-preserved for 50 which gives a lot of credibility to your claims of leading a healthy life.  It shaves at least 10 years off your appearance, IMO.  Kudo's to you.  

Said line is usually used to separate North from South. I ends at the western border of PA, where that line meets West Virginia. So that's an awfully big bunch of territory you've chosen. Does this mean you'd see her in Ohio?
PS: Conan says it's "Kudos." No apostrophe needed.
You're welcomer.

to the Western border of Texas, then jumped to include California in the North, if my memory serves me.  That's why California, who's statehood was achieved in 1850, was a "free" state during the Civil War.  I'd only see her in LV or SoCal.  

The Mason-Dixon Line was not "unofficially extended." An entirely new line was created by The Missouri Compromise of 1820. Other changes followed the Mexican War but they have nothing to do with the Mason-Dixon Line.
You need to get a refund on your History GED.
Was it issued by Jack Dunphy University?

The Mason–Dixon line is a demarcation line separating four U.S. states: Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and West Virginia. It was surveyed between 1763 and 1767 by Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon as part of the resolution of a border dispute involving Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Delaware in the colonial United States.[1]

It was certainly used in the Missouri Compromise so may have been part of other States' entrance to the USA. However, most of all of California is below the latitude of the line so not sure how that explains California entering as a free, rather than slave state.

If it's wrong, I'm just the messenger.

I followed that link and read the accompanying article by S.K. Nicholls.  In her article about segregation, there was no mention of the map, though she had the map imbedded in the article.  No way to attribute the map to another source as she didn't include any footnotes or other identifying marks of the map's origin.

That is a very odd map line she claims is the Mason-Dixon line. If that is to define North and South, particularly in the context of slavery why does it show Missouri above the line?  

I will try to be more selective in choosing internet sources.  

You're absolutely right and is very wise too. A test only show the result at the  moment of the testing, not after. In some cases a virus may not actually manifest itself at the time of testing and may not be detected at that moment.  
It's a delicate and tricky situation.

Jesus Christ your comments are so freakin weird. No one calls a living, breathing, adult human female "well preserved". That is not a compliment, you sound like a serial killer. You are giving off Ed Gein vibes. Pretty sure Becca does not want to  be turned into a "well preserved" lamp shade. Yikes dude.  

That’s not fair Scarlet. Back in the 1980s and 1990s my mother (who was in her 70s at the time) always referenced her female friends who looked younger as ‘well preserved.’ And she meant it as a compliment.

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That's nice. It is 2025 though.

in polite society to use this term for women whose looks defy their chronological age.  I had the same experience growing up around ladies who had money and did afternoon tea most days.  Not surprised Scarlett is unfamiliar with the both the term and context of usage.  After all, another common phrase was "you can't make a silk purse out of sows ear."  Lol

Let’s not forget that our beloved Scarlett hails from Wisconsin where they just proposed renaming “mothers” as “inseminated persons” or some such 2025 coddling. It’s all making sense now.

taking tranny loads in the ass, so how would you distinguish this type of "inseminated person" from a mother?