TER General Board

Re: it depends on the lady
NoGreenBorderedEnvelope 12 reads
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... the provider gets no enjoyment from her work, it wouldn't "bug" me per se.   But I know providers who are in it for the money (they're not a 501c3) but also enjoy what they do, so I prefer to give them my money and time.

Texting with me at least once a week, outside of stuff related to appointments (which is usually by email) isn't expected at all.  

MasterZen 33 Reviews 16 reads
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that we all (guys and gals) can be a little needy at times, it does not entitle us to frequent chat sessions. Each relationship is probably going to be a bit unique in terms of communications. Do what feels right for you on a case by case basis.

JakeFromStateFarm 11 reads
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And certainly a lot of girls are in it only for the money.  That's fine. But most of the women I've met like other things about the life, too.  Like the freedom it gives them from being stuck in an office and tied to a schedule.  The freedom to travel. Many are just not office types and also like being a bit of an outlaw.
And some just love to fuck.

CdnBman 11 Reviews 15 reads
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Question 1 - of course, providers are in it for the money.  This regular sounds like he has a fundamental misunderstanding on the nature of this business.  In theory, if a provider’s conduct made it really obvious that she didn’t want to be with me during a session, then that’s different.  But that pretty much never happens.  So, no it doesn’t bother me one bit that providers are in it just for the money, because almost all of them don’t behave in a way that makes that obvious during a session.  

 
Question 2 - no I don’t think this is a reasonable client expectation.  Some clients don’t seem to understand the burden this creates, if every client is so needy.  From a provider perspective however, it might be a good business decision to make this weekly investment, depending on how important this client is, from an overall revenue perspective.  In your case, if you want to keep this client, then you are probably doing the right thing by making him feel special.  Assuming that the encouragement doesn’t cause him to continually demand more from you.  

 
ps, and edit. - it actually bugs me more that this site screws up carriage returns on iPads.

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mrfisher 111 Reviews 9 reads
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5 / 60

because it assumes that we clients have a way of reading the providers' minds.   We don't.

 
If the question is rephrased instead as:   Does it bug me if a provider acts like she is only in it for the money?, then the answer is yes, at least to some extent.

 
This whole hobby is about appearances, and I love when a provider I see, especially one who is a regular, acts like I'm her be-all and end-all, well, let's just say I'm one happy camper, and leave it at that.

 
Of course there are varying degrees of satisfaction, and this aspect of the hobby is just one of many, so I don't want to place too much emphasis on it, but it certainly is an important aspect, especially for needy little cry babies, such as myself.

 
Some guys, on the other hand, love the hard-hearted-Hanna types and more power to them.   At least they never have to deal with being broken hearted.

souls_harbor 12 reads
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Are you kidding me???   If I have a monthly $500-$1000 income stream you damn right I am going to be friendly in order to encourage the business.  That's what someone would do whose only concern was money.   That maximizes income.

It is someone who has other interests besides money who would balk at spending time trying to roust up business in any manner possible.

This is why guys (and rich gals) are often duped by gold diggers -- by all outward appearances they'll do anything for love -- you just don't know their love is for money.

BlueeyeJack 10 reads
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7 / 60

I thought they liked getting Fucked several times a day?

micktoz 43 Reviews 101 reads
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8 / 60

Illusion Of Passion.
It's a bit of a misused description of how wild and crazy a p4p woman behaves during sex acts. It assumes that all of the women are acting their pleasure, which is probably not true. Broad definitions are usually wrong a lot of the time and true some of the time.

I think your regular said "only in it for the money" as a clumsy way of saying that he would like to have a little more off the clock customer service.  
I have been seeing some ladies for almost 3 years. A few of them that live in cities that I don't live in, but visit regularly, reach out in a social way to keep the relationship going. I'm not cynical, I understand that some of it is to keep me attracted to see them the next time I'm in their city. But, I also think they do enjoy my company and they find me easy to be friends with. A couple of them have friended me on their personal Facebook pages.
But, other regular ladies that I see keep the business /personal line very strict. I understand the business and emotional reasons for that line. Some are happy to have a work persona and keep it at that and some do it to protect themselves physically and emotionally.  

Whatever the reasons, none of this is simple. And some mongers don't communicate very well and need a little emotional connection to keep the attraction.  Some mongers  don't at all.

There are no absolute answers.

passionpal 19 Reviews 16 reads
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9 / 60

This is fantasy. The better the fantasy the more likely I am going to repeat. It's not an expectation nor am I very needy however a small amount of additional contact before and/or after is a nice touch that I do appreciate.

Mommascomin 17 reads
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10 / 60

but 500 or 1k a month isn't enough for me to text a client for anything besides appointment setting. i have clients that spend  4 k a month with me and they do get off the clock texting and i don't mind it, as seeing them that often has definitely changed the dynamic of our relationship, but the dude seeing me once a month for an hour doesn't get access to me outside of it, its just not worth the effort.  

In my (and many others) mind you only get to be a needy client if you have the money to back it up.

souls_harbor 14 reads
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11 / 60

Of  course.  Someone who has a million dollar client is not going to worry about a $1k order.  But now we are only talking price, not procedure.

I suspect, however, that if you are willing to see $1k/month clients, you aren't out of the income security range to ignore them -- or the need to entice them.

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 21 reads
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12 / 60

So why are you doing this then? 😂 you want to fall in love and get married?!

I mean.. I know by first hand that we can get emotionally connected and attached with clients. I personally had a relationship with a client for a year... I even stop seeing anyone else and he stop as well, we always travel together, I was always on his business trips. But with time I learned that he was a functional alcoholic. A good guy with good intentions but... still an alcoholic  & I would not evolve my life about a men that had this issues bc isn't my job to "save" anyone. So involving my heart and mental state isn't worth it for 15K or 20K a month. This was about 2 years ago.

Another client I saw for couple months, he suffers of depression & anxiety, we meet frequently (weekly) for couple hours, and yes, I did at first allow a msg on twitter or text. Things were ok then, he was fun, we talk a lot, we have a lot in common. Things started getting way too much, one time he got super upset and start acting like a jealous, controlling boyfriend. If I didn't answer on twitter, he msg me at the work email, if I didn't answer he text my work no, if no contact he text my personal number, he even contact me on my freaking PERSONAL Facebook act, then instagram and even a MEDITATION app I use.

I was like GTFOH!!   done, done, done! Since the issue with him is that I have now a text-calls plan on my website.  

This is my business, my fun, but with boundaries. Can you imagine if I text with every client I meet? I would have literally no personal space and life. Would a client  want a girl / escort text him when he's are with their significant other, kids or personal activities?  

I was having a good conversation last nite with a client (on the clock) about why I do this and why he does it. We are both single, no attachments but we both missed the touch, the connection, the cuddle, the sex, the "fun part of a relationship boyfriend/girlfriend" with out the drama and the strings. We both get what we want in "our relationship" & once we are out of the room/appt/ restaurant / appt bubble each of us back to our lives without attachments or commitments.  

I told him I love my clients because I have the BFE "the boyfriend experience"  I have fun, he have fun, good sex, dinner dates, travel, we stablished trust, BUT there's always the boundaries like that neither I or he would cross. AND we love it!  

I do have weekly text-talk plans if y clients wish to connect with when in traffic, can't sleep or just bored. ha- After all, my rates are for my time during the appt and if a client wants to connect more, we can always find a way to do it..with a fee. (of course).  

Twitter is the new thing... so many guys are now getting a twitter acct to chit - chat with girls but they never book a date. So, again, set up boundaries. Even with your regular clients. BOUNDARIES.  

I post on twitter (RT) this the other day: "Dear clients who find the way providers communicate to be curt, business-like, even bordering on rude... you have NO IDEA how much of our time is wasted constantly! Demonstrate courtesy and respect and we'll warm up"

Now, my question is he looking for a relationship? Because if he does... he's are kind of in the wrong place. Im not saying it cannot happen... and provider-client can't fall in love... just... it rarely happens.  

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souls_harbor 11 reads
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13 / 60

I think my original answer was just about enticing revenue streams -- keep regulars coming.  If there is someone you actively don't like, that would be an additional factor.  

Even in civie life there are clients (and bosses) I wouldn't work for.  But if they are just ordinary people, though not necessarily my best buddies, I would try to entice their repeat business.

souls_harbor 12 reads
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14 / 60

It is complicated.  That's one of the reasons I seldom repeat with escorts, though most are great.  I'm as apt to get attached as any sad sack you ever met.  I can't even imagine meeting with the same lady over the course of months without developing some sort of crush.  So I just don't do it.

Though I would say email etc are a lot less dangerous in that regard than actual meetings (especially intimate meetings.)  I've had some pretty open email conversations with various women (civie and escort) over the years.  But I never met them and didn't develop the same sort of attachment I might if I had actually met them in person.

SamanthaKillington See my TER Reviews 14 reads
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sexisnatural 17 reads
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Best summary I've read yet about why providers choose to be in the life---spot on truth!!

NoGreenBorderedEnvelope 12 reads
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17 / 60

No, it's really not complicated at all.

All it takes is the ability to have a mutually beneficial relationship with another person... specifically in your case and mine, another woman... that involves intimate physical contact, without believing that the only way such a relationship can end up is romance.  

It's just two adults having adult fun together, with one paying the other for her time.  
Posted By: souls_harbor
Re: complicated
It is complicated.  That's one of the reasons I seldom repeat with escorts, though most are great.  I'm as apt to get attached as any sad sack you ever met.  I can't even imagine meeting with the same lady over the course of months without developing some sort of crush.  So I just don't do it.  
   
 Though I would say email etc are a lot less dangerous in that regard than actual meetings (especially intimate meetings.)  I've had some pretty open email conversations with various women (civie and escort) over the years.  But I never met them and didn't develop the same sort of attachment I might if I had actually met them in person.

AznWhtTailHntr 15 Reviews 11 reads
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I guess you are a ‘wireless’ provider as well.  Anytime I think I’ve seen or heard it all, something like this smacks me in the face.  I am amazed that someone would pay for it, but also impressed that you can monitize it.

petitenicole See my TER Reviews 27 reads
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Mommascomin 12 reads
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20 / 60

not really. now that i think into it, my once a month clients rarely text outside to set a date. now i only have a couple once a month clients, my clients range from those who see me once or twice a week, to those who see me once a year, but the inbetween ones aren't nearly as populus

ROGM 13 reads
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21 / 60

Same can be said of a girlfriend. There's no difference.

goodtimes11 6 Reviews 11 reads
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23 / 60

I think it is different with a regular than girls you see once in a great while. If I do not feel a connection with a regular I would not keep going back. I would go to different providers all the time. I believe the sex is must better when you feel like the person enjoys your company. I am sure there are girls that can fake it but I would think it would show up. And if they where that good I would be fine with it too lol.

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 11 reads
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And the clients / relationships I want to stablish.  I do like to attract my clients  for overnights, trips & actually COMPANIONSHIP.
Again, GFE isn’t a menu .... but an experience 👌🏼

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 15 reads
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25 / 60

If they expect random "text chatting" they should be spending $500-1000 a week, not a month. Texting is a form of OTC time, which they should never "expect" but many providers will allow if he's spending enough. At $500-$1000 a MONTH, he should get both  a "happy birthday" and "merry Chirstmas" text once a year. If he's already getting those at this level, then he shouldn't be complaining.  

 
It's none of my business what a provider's motivation is for being in the business.  If the service is good, she will continue to get my business, if it's not, she won't.  

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mrposition 10 Reviews 13 reads
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26 / 60

gee...i wonder if it bugs her,if im only seeing her for the sex...hmmm

russbbj 89 Reviews 15 reads
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27 / 60

No it doesn't bother me in the least, in fact I prefer it that way.

Look, everyone you meet in life has an agenda, period. That's not being cynical it's being realistic, and I am a realist. So, when I spend time with a prostitute I know exactly what her agenda is, there's no guessing what her motivation is, and that is very refreshing.

And absolutely not, should I expect to be chatting or texting at all in between appointments! This is her job, if she's good at her job, you'll feel like the most important person in her life for the amount of time you've requested, and then it's over. This life is a fantasy life, we get to spend quality time with a woman who's only interest is to satisfy us for a short period of time and we don't have to listen to or deal with the bullshit to do so.

This part of our life is really simple, do some background work (read reviews, look at photos), execute her desired screening process, make your booking, practice impeccable personal hygiene, count your envelope correctly and then have fun. Don't expect any more than that.

I see my hairdresser once a month, but I'd never  expect to chat or text her once a week, she cuts my hair and then I leave until it's time to have my hair cut again. What more should I expect from her? Nothing!

russbbj 89 Reviews 12 reads
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AznWhtTailHntr 15 Reviews 13 reads
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That there are guys here willing to fork over 250 a month for a daily text.  Absolutely no knock on you.  For me, there are women in my life I’d pay 250 a month not to have to talk to them.  

sexisnatural 13 reads
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Yes indeed---to quote the legendary Charlie Sheen--"I don't pay them for sex...I pay them to leave." Keep it simple and drama free!!

TurbayVeronica See my TER Reviews 15 reads
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32 / 60

those who I engage in text/talk practices between appts are not really the ones that beg for discounts or look for the best deal. They understand my time and have more than enough to see it as "spoiled the GFE" that they frequent. Hey... I have monthly packages that include all. :)  
ha!

passionpal 19 Reviews 15 reads
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Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 14 reads
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35 / 60

Your regular is delusional!
I don't get guys who do this looking for girlfriends. That is not what this is about.

Bluecourtney See my TER Reviews 15 reads
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36 / 60
Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 16 reads
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37 / 60
micktoz 43 Reviews 12 reads
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..... and I needed a haircut, we would set up a chair on our front porch. I would sit there in shorts, covered by a sheet   and she would walk out in a sexy bra and panties, displaying her wonderful  natural DDD's.
She would start cutting my hair and of course her boobs would be all over me.  
Once the hair cutting was done, we were both so turned on that she would either climb onto my cock while face to face or she would start with a BBBJ.  

Those were the days.  
Sadly, her desire went the way of the dodo and I got my haircuts elsewhere.  
Haircuts always bring that fond memory up.

micktoz 43 Reviews 11 reads
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micktoz 43 Reviews 8 reads
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40 / 60

I fall in love with every woman who fucks me. I don't want to live with them or extend the relationship past what it is. Well, not very often anyway. Lol

GaGambler 13 reads
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41 / 60

My ego is more than able to accept the fact that I pay hookers to fuck me, but I can't possibly imagine myself being so fucking boring or uninteresting to the point I would have to pay someone just to text with me.

 

Speaking strictly for myself, I have dozens of "hooker buddies" who are more than happy to "talk" to me for free, and it's a rare day that I don't talk to at least a couple of them about something, and NO, I am not the one initiating the contact.

 
Now back to the original topic, I have had a lot of girls who were what I would call "regulars" that I never spoke to in between appointments.  I have a general rule of thumb I use in these circumstances. If I am the one who has to initiate contact each time, the lady is probably only being polite by responding. OTOH If I get a message that reads, "where the heck have you been? It's been days since I've heard from you" I can be pretty sure it's a two way friendship.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 10 reads
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42 / 60

Blocking out the "haircut" must guys get during a divorce.

goodtimes11 6 Reviews 12 reads
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43 / 60

There is a difference between a friend and a girl friend and if you don't understand stand that I feel sorry for you.

AznWhtTailHntr 15 Reviews 15 reads
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44 / 60

Are too upset that they can’t make money off of losers.  Each of you has to try harder.  You’re not going to rule the world yet.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 8 reads
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get perms usually go to a hairdresser, not a barber.  Maybe Russ is caught in the 80's, but if he can rock a perm, he should go for it.  

russbbj 89 Reviews 24 reads
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47 / 60

A hairdresser (Hair cutting professional if you will) is licensed to cut hair, color hair, perm hair etc.

A barber is licensed to do all of those, but also to shave with a straight razor. I shave myself, so no need to see a barber. You are welcome to google the fact.

Besides, I rather like my hairdresser, and I'll keep going to her even if it's not considered manly to do so. I don't define my masculinity by who cuts my hair.

I've told GaG this before, and I'll tell you the same, you can roll your man card up tight and shove it up your ass. And guess what? You won't feel a damn thing, because there is no such thing.

I am pragmatic PC, so please don't bother me with your hocus pocus bullshit. Feel free not to read my posts from here on out.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 8 reads
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to shave yourself, there are women who will wax you.  I wouldn't let anyone with a straight razor near my balls, not even me.  

ElTorro 15 Reviews 9 reads
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1. I went in there with a full understanding of what to expect, and I already made up my mind that this is not a personal encounter, but rather, that it's strictly business. I am paying for her honesty after all, so why would I have a problem when she gives me the honesty I paid for? Isn't this the reason why red pill men deviate from traditional relationships and stick to escorts in the first place? It really IS all about the money, and I'm totally ok with that. My only complaint would be if she just lays there in starfish mode dying for it to be over as opposed to really working to satisfy all my desires in bed. Afterall, I'm paying for the experience as a whole. If it was just about having a release, I'd stay home and rub one out for free.

 
2. It's not unreasonable for me to send her social texts if I'm a regular who's spending $500-$1000 a month on her, but even so I'd keep it at a minimum because I must remember that I'm not the only one she's seeing, and I wouldn't want my texts to get in the way of her business. I don't think it's unreasonable for you to reply to his social texts if it helps to keep him as a regular, but you should be careful not to spoil him. It's good to establish boundaries when dealing with someone who you know is potentially clingy.

Ridleyone 12 Reviews 15 reads
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Of course the hookers are in it for the money, they all do it for the money, this is a fundamental truth I keep reminding myself of whenever I see a provider. It only becomes an issue for me if this effects her performance, like if she's a rude person who's trying to shoo me out of the room as fast as possible.

Texting with the girl OTC is a plus, but I don't expect it and I definitely repeat so long as the sex is good, which is really the whole point.

The guy TC is talking about sounds like he's expecting way too much from a relationship that isn't romantic in nature. It can be friendly and cordial, but it's not going to be some sort of "And they lived happily ever after, The End" type deal.  

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 9 reads
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souls_harbor 10 reads
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52 / 60

I can't even understand how cam shows make money.  There is so much free porn out there.

YoMaMaDo 13 reads
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Out of the Blue I get a text saying that someone misses me and where have I been? Then I look at the calendar and it is the last of the month and the rent is due.

To answer your questions:

1) No it does not bother me that a Business Woman is in business to make money. The vast majority of the ladies I have seen would have no issue with having all the attention and affection they would desire without having sex with me. I realize that and I go into these situations with a set of expectations and a realistic understanding as to why a well put together younger woman is showing up to make me feel good. IE, the money. Also one of my expectations is that afterward either I or the lady leave. I am not looking for a relationship any deeper than that , I believe those who do are conflicted and have a rude awakening coming. I have on several occasions either in the taxi or after the door closes thought how nice it would be to have "her" in my life but that is a fleeting thought that dissipates rather quickly.

2) No I do not think it rude for a Business person to not respond to things that are not related to their business. Do you send your Lawyer pictures of your Cat and expect a reply? Do you send a cheerful "hello just checking in to see how your day is" to your Heating and A/C guy ?  So no, I have no expectation of anyone's time except the time I pay for. Again I believe anyone who does that has a misconception as to what this arrangement is and will more times than not feel all Butt-Hurt when they do not get the attention they crave.  

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 27 reads
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Really?!?  And yes, my good clients I do chat with EVERY DAY. As in 1 K a month.  This is my job. They know it is my job. I text/message/send pics/ cards/ etc..  They love the attention and show it with gifts and $. They also know my job and appreciate my time. I appreciate them and how much they spend on me and how good they are to me!!!  

Xoxo
Scarlet

Rickshaw17 28 Reviews 9 reads
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I assume nearly all providers are in it primarily for the money, I just don’t want to be treated like it during the session.  Some providers genuinely enjoy what they do and those are the ones I want to see.  I don’t expect them to want off the clock social interaction with me, but when they do, appreciate it.  I’d like to think I’ve become friends with a few providers who actually like me.  

josulli 15 Reviews 11 reads
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Your regular is in a dream world.. he never would have seen you if he didn't pay you.. That's reality. Some times.. yes.. there is a connection.. but it's never for free..

clairecavendish See my TER Reviews 16 reads
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57 / 60

I love interacting with gents on twitter, I answer all private messages sent to me, even if they're not from clients, I regularly email and text with regular clients. To me that's part of the social process and part of showing them I care about their lives outside our booking. It doesn't mean I love them or that they're needy, it's just a little light fun until the next booking and it takes a couple of minutes of my time.  
It costs nothing to be nice!!

REIME111 36 reads
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YOU KNOW SOMETHING YA EVIDENTLY EVERYONE NEEDS MONEY SOME MORE THAN OTHERS ... BUT I THINK THE REAL PERSPECTIVE IS THAT EVERYONE IS STILL HOPING FOR THAT ONE TRUE (fuck) love the explosive orgasim over and over with the same person so if a provider is not doing extra for you an ya your paying her great wages go on to the next one and maybe youll be treeted better

Durhamdrew 19 Reviews 10 reads
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59 / 60

I got 4 likes.  You got one. Im right!

inaznow 70 Reviews 15 reads
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I am a realist and know that all of the providers I have seen or will see are in it for the money.  I don't mean that to be a negative but this is a business...for them.  For us clients...it is a hobby.  Whether they have financial difficulties, need money for school, enjoy extra cash to spend on themselves or their family, whatever the motivation - they like getting paid and would most likely not be fucking me if I were not paying them.  Think about it, have you ever met a provider who could not walk into a bar, party, church, etc...and not find a man to come fuck them.  Of course the ladies love sex...and for some this is a great way to satisfy that desire but they could get that satisfaction many other places with out taking the risks that are inherent in the business.

As for the off the clock texting...I don't want it and don't need the risks it brings - for me anyway.  Of course it is entirely up to the provider as to whether they provide that kind of interaction...free or charged (bravo to those who monitised that communication).  If I get random communication from a provider I have seen, I am certain I is a "marketing" effort on their part and while I appreciate their initiative, I do not ever delude myself into thinking "she must really like me!"  If a John is expecting to have that kind of a response from a provider then they seem to be missing the point of this.

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