I'm African American Hobbyist, with excellent references from providers, I alway donate, I'm not rough or abusive with my providers or anything, I've tried to schedule a date with PerfecttenEscorts http://www.perfecttenescorts.com/

agency several times, everytime after they ask my ethnicity, they give me the run around, when they call to verify with the other agencies or providers they can't be contacted or they never get back with them which is really conveinent(never happens @ any other agency). I was wondering has anyone else experienced similar issues with agency? possibly the best way to deal with it?

Thanks! in Advance

and I doubt I would be very fucking nice about it.

It really sucks that this still happens in 2012, and it's worse that we aren't talking about one single provider with a hang up about black guys, after all that's an individual choice that like it or not we/you have to accept, but racism at an agency level just seems 10 times more wrong.

Again, my advice it to simply move on to the next one. and yes I do realize that telling them to fuck off will do nothing more than reinforce their belief that all black guys are abusive, but it might make you feel better for about 10 seconds. lol

At least we know the ethics they operate with.

Like the Big Dude on this thread says, move on to those who will see you . It's their preference dude.

Side note , I'm a stripper pig too . Let me know when you want to go.

Rock on !

Maybe they're financed by the klan or something. Like GaG says, angry words would only reinforce their bigotry. Just move on my brother and do your thing else where.

Id do exactly what youve just done.  Report it everywhere so that hobbyists can read that.

I, as a caucasian, will never use their services because of what you just detailed.   I dont have a problem with individual providers only desiring a certain ethnicity and I dont consider that racism.  However, the agency's display is a clear act of racism, and that cannot be tolerated.  

When they start losing business because of it, you've hit them where it hurts, stripperlover.

I am honestly curious.   Is it simple race discrimination of individual escorts?  
Do Af. Am. hobbyists have a negative reputation for some other reason?

I suspect the former is the biggest factor, but I am curious to hear comments on the latter.

BTW, I know that size is not the major issue.  I have more experience than most providers in this area.

Yes it has been. They don't want black clients. Move on. Take your money and your black penis to an agency or provides who would appreciate it. Why the hell you would waste your time trying to change their minds instead of hooking up with a sexy white provider who has no hang ups about race is just beyond me!

one of the biggest complaints old white dudes make to agency owners is that the girl they jsut saw was TOO loose. That leads to bad review for the girl and the agency. Also, I know some agencies don't want young guys seeing young girls, since many young ones don't want to run into someone they might know.
Hey, it sucks, but what can you do?

While this sort of thing touches people and can be considered very non PC, there must be some evidence as to why there are these preferences in the first place. People don't just wake up one morning and single out a race, religion or whatever and say,well I am not going to deal with them.

For the most part, and I will stick with providers and sexual intimacy, those who refuse to see certain races, age groups etc, usually have a had more than a few bad experiences which then have tarnished their view. If those experiences have been scary or violent, it makes it even worse.

What you have to remember is this...we are alone, one on one with no immediate help with a guy who is so very up close and personal with us in the most vulnerable state we can be in. If  lady is not comfortable with a man of a certain race, age etc, how can we sit back and pass judgement given that?

Here's what could happen to satisfy all the PC people. Take away ALL restrictions and make every lady see every guy that calls/emails or texts and that passes screening. In order for this to fly, she will have security outside the door. One wrong move and security removes the party. That way all get "seen", by a lady who is horribly uncomfortable and with a bouncer right outside the door to make things all that more romantic. Who wants this situation? I sure as shit don't.



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as long as the girls that they provide is decent and GFE. Btw, many perfect10 girls seem to be southeeast asians. Why many of them don't want to see blacks I dont know. You just have to respect their wishes.
It is better for you to know beforehand than show up and get a poor service   get pissed off.

guys they are seeing will still see them. Find providers who don't care about your race, but practically trying to blackball or force people to see you, is a bit counter productive. Do you really want to see any woman who is NOT comfortable with you regardless of how stupid her reasons are? I certainly wouldn't. Find someone who does not have a race policy...end of story.

I kinda look at it as...well, their loss.

On the other hand, I am not African American and could never truly understand whatever kinda discrimination or experience you might have.

Sorry to hear that.

because President Obama is the biggest F-ing racist around . Thats okay though because after November he becomes a
Historical close out item on shelves all over the country.

Rock In America !

Thanks! for your comments everyone! thats just it. I've delt with providers who were forward enough to let you know in there ad, or over the phone, and some when you got there which really sucks(I guess I sound extremely caucasian over the phone). I can deal, but on an agency level, I've had a high profile provider reject me due to ethnicity and the agent was honest about it. so I had to respect that, but what really ticks me off with this agency they walk you through the process, up till that point knowing full well once you mention that, its end of discussion, which is false and misleading, if they would just put that in there ad or on the site, they'd save ppl alot of trouble. Really thats all I'm asking for, if it truly comes down to each ind. provider @ the agency please let me know that, don't give me a run around and waste my time.

Nothing, Of the Sort London, I understand providers descretion, agency as well, just be honest about it, sometimes being "PC" makes things more difficult, than they need to be.

Thanks! GateCrasher, where you located?

Thank You, Not Familiar with the area, most of the independants, are the same way in this area have not discovered resources to find attractive decent providers locally... I'll keep looking..

Thank you, for your professional response jpirone and I highly appreciate your support.

Thankyou, for being Honest, stay priviledged and caucasian, LIFE IS GOOD! wouldn't it be excellent if we all were the same color LOL!

Thats Fine! I wish they would just come out and say it or clarify on there site, instead playing the run around game, its seems to be more of agency choice or @ agent discretion, than the provider choice but you appear to know more about them than I do, I appreciate your advice.
Thank You

I love your, Response, often how we view other ppl or groups of ppl dictated by experiences with said group, and I completely understand ind provider discretion, but sometimes how we view other ppl or groups ppl is dictated to us based someone else's indirect negative experiences with certain groups.

Which, if feeble minded will define our entire opinion of said group based on that person feelinngs and not our own.. thats what disturbs me, it happens moreso with non-independant providers it becomes a blanket statement to live by without ever meeting someone and thats dangerous.

I don't mean to be patronizing, but your Hilarious!

I really, think its bigger than this hobby and it always has been r(stereotypes)

Thank You and I appreciate your response it'd be awesome they made perfectly clear on there site or in there ad, it just save some of us alot of time.

Glad to know we got some republicans, on the site LOL!

you would just appreciate them tell you flat out they don't see black guys. I would do just that, and then deal with the bs fake reviews afterwards from guys who are offended. Much easier.

To quote Dave Chappelle's character...

And I am sorry some of the responses you are reading on this thread as so ignorant, as well.

Was that the episode when he was "the Blind Black" White Supremacist? that was hilarious,

but to respond to PourSomeSugarOnMe, even too the most racist person/or group ,even if they hate all or most ethniticities  blacks are usually beneath ever other "race" just due to the dark pigment in our skin and this country's history. its extremely its easy to get sick of " The stigma" that I'm constantly reminded of on a daily basis in real dating or the hobby. I'll leave @ that, we'll consider it dropped cause I definitely don't wanna be considered a whinner, and a fresh group of agencies will be visiting next week.

Thanks for the enlightment & support everyone, and the blunt foward disscussion on a topic which I would have never expected from this forum. I'm suprised and impressed by the users here.

Except that PSSOM isn't nearly as funny.  He's just inbred.

Again, I can never understand what it's like to be black, and I will never compare my own experiences as a minority to those of blacks.  Even if it isn't what you say it is, the one big pet peeve I have on this board is jackholes who decide to speak on behalf of everyone else, whether it be a provider trying to convince you that every other provider is in it primarily for the money and that's it, or whether it's a stupid client saying that all Asians have small hairy wangs.

Anyone can speak for himself or herself, and should just leave it at that.