I was banging a provider via missionary and I notice she kept sweating and making sounds, I was also sweating. Looking at her face it seemed very real but I kept telling myself that it was all a act. The problem with that is it ruins the overall experience. Can sweating be part of the act? How much of the sex with the provider can be faked and what part cannot be faked?

sweetie, if you are enjoying yourself,... and all was well why worry your self  about logistics ?

sincerity is a turn on. What the hell is so wrong with that???

ask her to please turn on the AC or open the window?

I won't fake it...lol...I want to have as much Fun as You...afterall...it takes two to Tango...and if I am having a Great time...imagine how much better of a time You Will have...if You don't want me to have a Great time..that is OK...You will still have Fun...and You Will get what You came for...but to answer Your question...the only way I can imagine she could sweat is if she went to the gym just prior to You two getting together and had a big workout...You can Not fake sweat...it's coming from somewhere...so why don't You give yourself the credit

aspects of a relationship.

There is no reason why the gal, being relatively healthy and able to enjoy sexual activity, shouldn't be working up a good sweat and grunting away during intercourse.

We are talking about sex here, not waiting on tables, after all.

But just like you (hopefully), she is able to compartmentalize these activites from the attachment of deep emotional bonds like one would have for a SO.

This is not to say that some providers can't come to regard at least some of their steady clients as friends and form some kind of attachment, but it is of an entirely different nature.

To be sure, there are a lot of times that a provider may not be into the session in a physical way, but will still do her duty and make you think she is.  This is her job, much like we pay to watch actors on the stage perform their roles.

Whether or not they are really into it is something that is really none of your business; nor will you ever really know.

In short, sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

A while ago, in the moment, I asked a person I truly and continue to enjoy how high her 'esteem' for me was, and I still laugh at what she said..."You keep rubbing my back and I'll keep pretending I love you."  We still enjoy ourselves after nearly three years, throwing ourselves into each experience but knowing the boundaries.

every time someone tells you to *have a nice day*
do you question if they mean it or not?
sweating is a function I know I have no control over, and neither do you I'd guess either.
STOP over thinking it all.
I have fun with clients. No not all but I can still get off, and enjoy myself. No I don't want to date them and its true without the money I wouldn't see them but that doesn't mean I would be faking it. This is a business but I still enjoy the company of many of the men I have had the priviledge to meet and get to know. Still wouldn't fuck them for free BUT they are fun.
just enjoy the ride, your own BS is ruining the experience by over thinking the whole thing.

There is always some fakery and that is to be expected.  You are paying for fantasy not reality.

that it just might be easier to "get into" a session with some clients than with others....

(not talking about my charm and good looks here )

but rather that a client can *make it easier* for the m'mselle du jour / soir to enjoy the event by being timely, clean, well groomed, confident and fun to be with.

in this sport, Preparation + Attitude + a modicum of bedroom sense = BFE

Good BFE gets great GFE more times than not....

Ummm.. no you can't fake sweating. It's not possible to lay back and concentrate yourself into a perspiring.

If her body is reacting physiologically, that you can't fake.   Why ruin a perfectly good moment with terrible internal dialogue?  I actually think a person can ruin the experience for both partners by internally chanting "It's just an act".

Not all women are open to sincerity. However, with those that are interested in really investing themselves and having a good time - you as her date decide if that's possible.

If you walk in with a script, a list of acts that you want to do, or an expectation that she should be a certain way, that's less likely to happen. Act like a director, and you get an actress.

If you approach the situation like a first date, a "BFE" then she can throw the act aside and let go then she can freely enjoy how things unravel.

This can happen on short dates if there's a real click between you two. But I always found it's more likely to occur over dinner dates, because we're allowed to get to know you, let down our guard, just feel comfortable. Since the date itself unfolds like a regular first date, it's easy to forget that things are compensated and just enjoy the evening as two partners, which translates between the sheets.

to try to make the activities last longer.
I have notices that too much enthusiasm or my real enthusiasm can cause things accelerator too quickly.
It seems that there is really no pleasing some ppl here.
Men feel cheated if we enjoy it make assumptions of lack enthusiasm if we hide it.
Yet so many cannot ask us if we like it or not.
I thought sometimes the job was not making you too happy so it could last longer.
We get the blame if you have a hair trigger.
We get the blame for trying to hard.
We get the blame for liking what we do.

How you relate to the scenario and to the lady has a great deal to do with what you experience.

I take time to put a lady at ease with me, let her get a feel for me

Many ladies will ask you "what you are into"... I tell her that I don't have specific requirements, that I just want to enjoy the time with her and would like her to feel free to do the same if she wishes

Being flexible open adventurous approachable communicative and fun will open many doors in this sport....

But you can't do this if you have a such a low opinion of yourself that you feel that she has to "fake it" with you

Nor if you have such a low opinion of providers that you feel that they don't care about anything other than the envelope lol

Just remember when you have a really great session and feel all warm and fuzzy that if the envelope did not happen you would not be there - maintain perspective without pessimism.

I truly HATE missionary position because most guys who are not athletic (aka overweight) sweats a fucking whole lot.
When on missionary position, they put all their weight over your body, sweat and try to kiss. Can you say EWWWWWW???
So, if you were sweating it was YOUR sweat all over her - not hers.
The worst is when a guys sweat drip over our eyes and mouth, that's a HUGE eeek factor.
I have a bunch of guys programmed on my cell under "sweat buckets" (#1, #2, etc) and I am nice and sweet on the phone BUT always "booked" for them.
Sweat from guys I have nothing in common is truly disgusting!

Maybe a new line of work is in order, like flipping burgers at McDonald's, where in the fry cooking area ya tend to work up a sweat.

I can understand where you may not have much experience in the EWWWWWWies, since taking it in the "back door" girl probably does not expose you to all that much sweat unless its down the crack of your ass.

On demand sweating, that is good one dude. Time to get back to the cave.

Ridiculous post. If you don't really know the answer to your own question, you are in deeper shit than you think.

Apparently, he knows ridiculous.

One of the best sessions i have ever had,the BOTH of us worked up a pretty good sweat. Neither of us complained and we repaired to the shower together where,consequently,we went at it again.

Where in here would you insert your EWWWWWWW?????

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Last I checked, guys have bodily fluids (sweat, saliva, etc.).

How unfortunate for you that they aren't sterile mannequins with an ATM attached for your convenience, I suppose.

You can't set up a basic rapport?

Establish a chemistry if the components are there?

You can not tell if you are actually satisfying a woman?

Have the wherewithal to not proceed if you are not feeling it; for the benefit of both involved parties?

Ladies, most clients can't deliver the goods?

Are most really inattentive?

It's always been a simple read for me. Simply because I wanted to learn and I started at a very young age wanting to understand the sexual dynamic. I decided that besides being a guitar player I was going to be the best lay possible. I find synergy between sex and music though.

Their is an extraordinary spectrum of body language and cues that go along with female arousal which simply can not be faked.

If you know what to look for it's as simple as paint by the numbers and it is a helluva lot of fun. The fun for me is that it's akin to a puzzle or a lock and every woman is unique.

I'd never stand for acting from a lady. I walk. Expplosively good sex can only occur with an explosive psychology of mutual affection. $$$'s are just another gatekeeper. A woman is a woman.

A fake-O has never gotten by me. With that being said, the variety of how female orgasms manifest is way cool......

Whether or not they are really into it? With me? Really?

'Trojan' catelog. LOL

this "provider" should be exposed so we know exactly who it is.

The way I see it, I'd rather not see someone who thinks I'm repulsive and a necessary PITA in order to get some $$$. If you figure this is a service industry, who do you get better service from: someone who is bitter, jaded and unhappy, or someone who is happy to be there and having a good time while they are working?

So in reality, being nice and saying "sorry, I'm booked" is doing both of us a favor- even if I think the complaint is kinda silly, I support the right of people to have quirks and pet peeves. We all have them in the end, and it's best for each one of us to find people who are compatible with ours... even if some of the quirks, pet peeves and so on make us go "WTF? Really?".

What? So we're all just banged-out, non-feeling porkholes, right? Our ability to enjoy sex has been diminished by YEEAARS of abuse. We're all closet lesbians, and curse all men and dicks. We're just in it for the money, right?

Now given, some/all of these statements apply to somebody, but if you can't tell she's acting, she's probably not. Sweat is not an indication of nothing but her body temp is higher than the temperature of the room. A person's ability (or should I say mine; I can't speak for anyone else.) to treat you as a human being stems from the fact that she would want you to view her as a human as well, and not have you berate her for agreeing to be with you. If you enjoy yourself with a lady, count it as a good thing. I would HOPE you know when a woman is faking you out...

I just said that I don't like to do missionary when a guy is sweating buckets because it gets all over my face, eyes, mouth etc.
Is my right to see whoever I want to see. Last time I checked, this body belongs to me and I just don't have to do certain things just because I am getting paid.
There is an eeeeewwww factor to me when a guys salty sweat gets on my eyes and inside my mouth and I have to taste it.
There are guy who just sweat a little, but there are some who sweats to the point of their hair being dripping and the bed, pillows soaked.
I don't think you want to be the appointment right after a sweaty guy, because you will be laying on damp pillows and bed.
I never said any of you are repulsive did I? My post was not directed to any of you in particular.
Is funny, you guys can say whatever about women but we cannot say anything about what we don't like during a session.
The fact that we are paid for it doesn't mean we have to endure it - reason I do not repeat with the gents I don't feel comfortable in their company.
What do you think is better? refuse an appointment, give an excuse so he can look up for another lady, or take his money and deliver a poor session?

Peace! Get laid!

BDG

and the more active you are the more you sweat. Sweat can be a really sexy thing in the right circumstances. When sweating I do suggest a sitting position, and lots of kissing.

She is totally doing those poor slobs a FAVOUR by being already "booked up" for them.  Personally, I LOVE to have a woman sweating away all over me, I get busy licking her off!  

I once arrived at a woman's door and she opened it and said "Oh wow, I'm sorry, I just don't do it with overweight guys..."  Seriously, I would MUCH rather have learned that long before I showed up.

I think BDG should out herself, so that sweaty guys can cull themselves out of the order.  I'd like to know who she is, so I don't ever bother her with my overweight, capable of sweating body.

DP

Now this is where hygiene comes in.

I smell good when I sweat. 'cause I duzz the male pamperin' before I get there. I make sure my nooks-n-crannies are FRESH!

Smell good is good!

Nothing like working up a good head of steam with a lady and then jumping in the Jacuzzi or shower together for a break.

Now...tons of sweating with average exertion is a sign of poor cardio.

Unless you're a regular and there is some mutual acquaintance (notice I didn't say friendship), I think it's pretty much all an act, a pleasant one, but an act.  Women and men are just wired that differently, men can be intimate with an attractive lady in 5 minutes or less, women take a little more time to get to that point.  That's why I think basic kindness, thoughtfulness and politeness go a long way in meetings like this, it's basically all you have in common to work with in the time allowed.

Men fantasize about all sorts of things, but satisfying a woman is a man's pet fantasy.  I am sure the providers sense this, and cater to that need.  

Let's keep it real.

From a guy who is an absolute expert at over-thinking.

Your chances of meeting me are ====> ZERO!

BDG

Why are some men so fucking stupid?

I replied...

If I knew the answer to that I'd have resolved the Middle East peace issue during lunch today.

Why is the sky blue why is water wet?

The truth is they're not that stupid. They're THAT hopeful. It's innate... To get the best mate we have to be the best provider for our mate.

Plain and simple

Probably all of it.

The answer is totally based on the 2 individuals involved.  Please don't speak for other people.  Only you can speak for you, sorry if you've had that misfortune that you feel the providers you've been with faked everything.  

I always try to just be myself and enjoy myself and usually I do!  (more times than not)

And everything in between, depending on the lady, the day, and you.

Just like in 'real' life.

I be doinn somethin wrong! Whatchu mean EWWWWWWW!
Hell, I leave da air off in da summer just to gets me some of dat man salt!  In fact, when we gets a good sweat a goin, I jumps into 69, grabs his ass, and swallows his sausage!  An he be in my love canal munchin down!  Hoooooooo!!!  By the time we get to mish, which you hate so much, it's like hot oil wrestling, and we be hangin on for dear life!
Now I ax you, WTF is "EWWWWWW" bout that!?

Maybe you needs a job at Baskin Robbins.  The freezer technician, cuz you way too cold for this job honey!

"I notice she kept sweating and making sounds...but I kept telling myself that it was all a act"

If you gauge authenticity by sweat production, diaphoresis and hyperhidrosis will throw you for a curve.

I can sweat just sitting in a meat freezer. People will sweat under different levels of physical exertion and emotional conditions.

Look beyond sweating or moaning. Some women orgasm or express pleasure rather quietly. If they are not your type, move on. Other women will rip the skin off your back, choke you with their legs wrapped around your neck and pull the headboard from the bed frame while setting off fire alarms.

Find women who meet your criteria or tell her what you like her response to be. Otherwise, I hope you feel more secure about yourself.

She said: "Sweat from guys I have nothing in common is truly disgusting!"

Most women are designed by nature to only actually desire sex with the best of men. How "best" is defined by a particular woman is a function of her social conditioning and personal values.

(i.e. "nature" says "lay the best" but "nurture" helps to define "best." Sometimes those definitions are counterproductive; but that's a subject for another day.)

Anything less than best ... is not high on her "I gotta lay him" list.

Put yourself in BackDoorGirl's shoes only backwards. Let's hook you up with a seriously unattractive woman. Are you eager to savor her juices? Even for money?

Personally, I think folks have been a bit harsh on BackDoorGirl.

Sweaty guys pay us for the action and fantasy, not the other way around.

She really needs to find another line of work. That does not mean she cannot still take it in the 'back door' in some other job.

So, I will send the smelly sweaty ones your way!
I don't need to find "another line of work" sweets, I have plenty of business just the way I am.
Actually, the fact I am selective is appreciated by the people I see. I make them feel special and they'll come back for more.
Some guys prefer to see girls who have some standards and don't need to welcome all $$$johns$$$ to her bed just because they mean $$$money$$$.
Again, is my body and money is not the only thing in consideration when I accept my appointments.

BDG

That's where Santa would be delivering your gift, mainly to quiet you down so you could listen to people. You must be awful young and full of yourself. No one can tell you anything.

If your real identity ever becomes known, I predict a severe financial downturn in your personal economy, because all men like to be treated with respect. Hey, just like you!

You can say what you like. And other people can comment on it.

In any event, I do believe I agreed with you in the part where I said "doing us both a favor".

...If I'm correct in my assumption she is a highly rated, highly regarded provider.

Considering that this alias' posts go back to 2005 and are largely very enlightening, entertaining and honest, I tend to think that she knows what she's doing and how to run a business when I read her posts.

The hypersensitivity that appears whenever a provider expresses that there are situations in which she is uncomfortable, conscious of a client's behavior or hygiene or has a willingness to refuse a client if it means that she can't service him with a straight face is very telling to me.

It speaks to the insecurity of the respondents more so than the poster (not unlike the comments made towards a provider who recently went appeared to be very sensitive in the thread about unrepresentative pictures and turned out to have a review or two indicating that she had an issue herself with inaccurate pictures- no offense intended to that provider, that's just how I read that thread).

BDG said she doesn't like clients who sweat on her excessively and doesn't service them.  So what?  I had a client who would sweat so much that I had to preemptively supply  2-3 towels on the nightstand because he would pour buckets.  So much so that by the end my hair was completely soaked as though I'd just stepped out of a shower and my incall/bed was completely unusable for several hours.   I saw him only when I was up for the task or late in the evening, and refused when I simply wasn't up for accommodating it.  
Does that make someone mad?  Does this make me less of a hard working provider?  Does refusal of service when I can't be certain that I can be 100% present and give everything that I'm known to give make me or BDG or any of us bad providers?  Get over yourselves if you think it does.
Any two-bit hooker can take your money and endure you even if she doesn't like you.  
Celebrated providers who provide excellent service time and time again aren't so because they're capable of ignoring their clients.  They're celebrated because they are capable of going within themselves to relate to their clients in the most organic way possible and give themselves entirely.  

So much cynicism around here from posters who pretend that they don't care what a provider likes or thinks...but meltdown when a provider tells the truth.  The posts so quickly turn from "Kimberly Cumz is such a wonderful provider and a fine lady" to "you're a whore, you fuck anyone for money" when there is any sign of life behind the eyes of a provider.  Think about it.

And boy do i like what i see.

If you can see through the alias, CALL ME.

STFU!

Seems to be the only way to shut you up!

  BTW  Beware of salty balls!

...But dough to the providers who tolerate you.

Respond to genuine thoughts when you have something intelligent to say, otherwise you and your million hate speech aliases are on perma-ignore.

Let me rephrase for Scarlett,

I think probably all of it is fake. I am meeting them with the understanding that I am paying them for their time.

I feel that if it is more then an act then it is crossing the boundaries of what this relationship is supposed to be about.

I hope you do enjoy yourself, but we think differently about the hobby and I am the consumer.

Just my thoughts.