So I was watching Sex For Sale on Natgeo and this former Provider stated that 2/3 of Provider have PTSD.  Then a current Provider followed up and stated that Providing takes "alot out of you emotionally".

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If you are the same in person as you post, I suspect a lot of ladies have some emotional issues after meeting you.  This post is a great example of you pontificating it couldn't POSSIBLY have anything to do with how you behave (and by implication, how other guys behave).  That is downright scary.  So, in your mind, since a lady voluntarily entered this business, then anything you do is fair game?  Since she voluntarily entered this business she shouldn't be traumatized no matter how gross, how ill mannered, or how threatening a guy behaves?

How every troll post has a similar format?

Being a faux idiot. Your posts have half a sense of seriousness and half a sense of moronic language and an even worse conclusion

it could be worse

There are many factors that would go into PTSD in this case.
1. Lying to everyone you know about what you do…
    a. You can't have relationships that seem real. You have a constant wall between you and the world.  
    b. You can't talk openly about your life, what you do, and the difficulties you encounter --- except to your competition.  
    c. You become dissociated in some ways, having to believe your story in order to make it believable to others.
2. You are constantly looking over your shoulder, and though the guy is screened, you just never know if he is LE or if there are any keeping an eye on you.
3. Fear of being 'found out', or wondering who knows what about you, or if they're trying to figure it out. You can't slip either. (Constantly hiding).
4. Lack of relationships for many --- hard to find a guy who will accept this type of lifestyle, and/or you have to hide it from the person closest to you --- fucking him after you get home from fucking other men, knowing you can't quit just yet.
5. The longer you're in the game, the longer you have lack of proof for previous jobs --- unless you're lucky. Can be a little nerve wracking when you see the distance increase between your previous end date from your last job and now.
6. Competition --- it's a cut-throat business
7. Ladies in agencies who pay a fee if they cancel an appointment, as well as paying agency for the booked time. May sound minimal, but feels like someone's telling you "If you don't fuck this guy, you have to pay out anyway." i.e. someone tells you who to fuck and when to fuck them. If you change your mind during a session, what happens? You can do it on a date, but during a session will 'ding' you. (Never had to do that thus far unless a dude is a jackass. He then gets a refund and leaves.)
8. Figuring out how to jump through hoops to get a place to live, a car to drive, etc.

Your "easy money" comment hit it on the head.  I help a friend with her marketing, advertising and websites due to my nerd powers.   It's a pain in the ass to go through and update multiple ad sites, come up with new creative content, and constantly shoot new photos.  OK, the photo thing is not that bad, it's actually really fun before, during, and afterwards.  

I know you went with 2/3 because of his topic, but it's more like 3/3.

I had a job for about 10 years that ended nearly 30 years ago. It was the sort of job where you had a set amount of work to each do each day and were responsible for that no matter the weather, illness etc. If you were sick the work was waiting when you back. Well here it is 30 ,years later and I still have dreams almost nightly about that place, not really nightmares just dreams about constant problems that keep me from finishing the work. It really wasn't a bad or unpleasant job in fact much of the time if you worked fast you could get done early.  
   I guess my point is, if a job like that can affect me all these years later, I have no doubt that being a provider could trigger this sort of thing too. Is it PTSD?  In my case, obviously no, but I believe it's a similar reaction, but that's just my theory.

I don't remember the PTSD thing.. and clearly the reporter doing the report had an agenda .. but yes,I was surprised at the number of pimps involved (in Las Vegas) if the report is to be believed.. and felt that the documentary was focused on agency stuff  but had a small section on independent providers.. But as I considered the women I know the best, I think of the 23 year old cutie I see and she said. "I haven't had a real date since I don't know when".. and I realize how difficult it is for her to come to terms what her day to day life has become.. or the other girl I see, who lives on the edges of society looking in. When things slow down she has no safety net.. no public Health care or unemployment because, of course,no taxes filed for years.. I get concerned about them and hope that the 23 year old is not being abused by anyone and wonder how someone can decide not to continue.. if they want to do so.. I realize it has to be difficult and I  respect their bravery ..

because you're cranking on all cylinders this morning. I couldn't agree more.

Yes Julia .. I do think of that.. The second girl I see is in her mid thirties and has been providing for some time.. the 1st girl (23, almost 24) is so appreciative of anything I do for her.. and yes I think that I, no doubt, am or would be her grandfathers age.. but it doesn't stop me from seeing her and really enjoying myself with her and I believe that she enjoys seeing me..  she has made derisive comments to me about 30 year old guys that think they are great .. and frankly, I have to remind myself that when she was born, I was approaching middle age.. but try as I might.. I don't want to quit seeing her.. but I am careful not to give her advice about her life.. even though I do have my thoughts.. she is doing what she has to do to live and doing it with a lot of grace and class.. she could be in worse condition.. I make no judgements.  
If either of my "regulars" called me looking for help I would do all that I could for them..

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Unless a woman is trafficked or pimped, she chose to be here so we have to take responsibility for OUR own actions and decisions.  

Luckily I'll be 25 in a few weeks, mama.

Posted By: JuliasLilSecret

There is a huge difference between the 18-25 year old girl who is having sex just to provide food and shelter for herself and probably has a pimp abusing her, and the women who really do have a choice in being out here.    
   
 This is why I cringe when I see reviews of girls under 25.  They should be off limits, IMO...if there wasn't a demand for them, they would never be here.  They're still just babies, and, yes, I'm sure it is traumatizing for them to have men their father's and grandfather's age fucking them in every hole possible.  
   
   

Posted By: Ridgetucky

So I was watching Sex For Sale on Natgeo and this former Provider stated that 2/3 of Provider have PTSD.  Then a current Provider followed up and stated that Providing takes "alot out of you emotionally".  
     
  For a minute there I started to feel bad.  Then I thought back to that summer in college when I worked in a sausage factory.  The factory was 40 degrees, everybody there hated me because I was in college (this was a union job) and the boss rode my black ass blue saying I wasn't working "fast enough".  
     
  If the PTSD or any kind of emotional trauma due to Providing is accurate I fail to say how that is my fucking fault (or the fault of any Hobbyist).    
     
  I will admit that it has to be emotionally jarring to have sex with random strangers.  But hey, these women **eagerly sought out the lifestyle, knowing the risks. It’s very easy money once you get used to it**    
     
  If there is any kind of trauma I am not taking the blame.  I DIDN'T FORCE ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1  
     
  Sidenote:  interesting observation I picked up from the show.  Alot of agencies hire girls that are being pimped out.  Now chew on that  
     
     
  P.S.  On a lighter note my Personal Trainer has me on a new routine and I can feel and see the results.  YeS  
     
  RT  
   
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I kind of feel I have PTSD but from my erratic home life growing up.. ha ha
I think that is why this biz is so great for me psychologically.
I am in control of who I see.
the relationships are structured so the social aspect is very clear on what is expected.  
There is no guessing.  I feel totally liked as a person ... I think.. 'damn, this nice, fun person, thinks I'm cool enough to hang out with me AND give me money... not once but over and over and over again for years on end.   Damn... ! I feel special.  '
It is a great comfort all around.

Well first and foremost, I'd like to know more about how this provider came to that conclusion. Was it in a study she read somewhere, or was that just her hypothesis? Secondly, does she know what PTSD is? I don't say that to be sarcastic. I think that most people know generally what PTSD is but not enough about how it specifically manifests itself in different people.

I am amazed I made it through that entire post, but I did ha ha. RT has some issues, and if you do a search for his past posts, you will realize this is nothing new. All things considered, I can't lie and say this business has not taken its toll on a few areas of my life, so he is not altogether wrong. You either have to be seriously numb or seriously open to not suffer some side effects from sucking strange d*ck for years on end. The very same providers who claim they 'don't have to be here' can't even charge 500 an hour... um, why is that? If you don't have to be here, why can't you charge whatever you want lol.

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In your retirement, you're being more didactic than I remember.

I figured it'd be tres ironic to be abusive on a thread about PTSD. Lol.

Imagine that ha ha. It's as if I am writing all day long now or some shit, only another place besides TER. Just for that shit, you're going in the credits. L.

Between that and my "buttcoin" royalty, I could earn a nice income.

I'd add that, IMO, providers do live a stressful life and from time to time I'm sure that they suffer traumatic experiences. So, after such an event, PTS follows. After LE encounters or just obnoxious clients, it would be considered somewhat abnormal if the woman felt no effect at all. So, post traumatic stress isn't always a disorder. Sometimes, no matter how ugly, it must be viewed as a scar that just comes with the territory.

No offense, but I have been in jail more times in RL before age 25 lol... no record though.

All I meant really is that feeling pain after trauma isn't always a dysfunction. Not just in your situation, but in many situations that people encounter. Sometimes not feeling pain would be dysfunctional. It's not really a black and white issue. Compare it to guilt. That's a negative feeling and sensible people try to avoid it. So we assert that guilt is a bad thing. But if a serial killer, for instance, feels no guilt he is definitely a psychopath and in that case feeling guilt would be a sign of health.